Optimistic message about the outbreak. Americas department of justice is quickly becoming the president s personal department of justice. It is defending trump in a lawsuit brought by a woman who says trump sexually assaulted her decades ago before he took office. A new whistle bror repoblower s that they have been lying to congress and manipulating intelligence reports to match trumps agenda including russias interference in elections and microsoft says that russia, china ka, a, and i have launched of sicyberattacks election campaigns. Donald trump says said its a hoax meanwhile he could would accept it. After the murder of legal permanent drents and Washington PostJamal Khashoggi at the hands of saudi arabia nagts turkey, trump, quote, saved his ass and that he was, quote, able to get congress to leave him, meaning mow ham mid balone. He was more concerned with defending the crown prince of saudi arabia than defending the United States and its reputation which has now been forever tarnished by trumps conduct. Make no mistake about it, the president giving a green light to this type of action and playing a role in the coverup say direct threat to our security let alone it counters journals who cover their government. But wait, theres more. According to axios, woodwards book says that former director of National Intelligence dan coats could not shake his, quote, deep suspicions that russias putin, quote, had something on trump seeing, quote, nor other explanation for the president s behavior. Another thing there appears to be no explanation for is trumps pension for revealing state secrets. During his conversations with woodward trump reportedly bragged about overseeing the creation of new Nuclear Weapons systems, quote, i built a nuclear, a weapons system that nobody has had in this country before. We have stuff that you havent even seen or heard about. We have stuff that putin and xi have never heard about before. Theres nobody. What we have is incredible. What he said is incredible. Thats on top of the already lengthy list of examples of trumps cavalier approach to state esecrets or classified information which includes telling top ranking russian officials including ambassador and foreign minister of russia while in the oval office about Israeli Intelligence in syria and telling the philippine authoritarian leader about u. S. Nuclear submarine locations. Speaking of being a National Security threat to the country, heres trump taking a page out of authoritarian playbook and explaining exactly what he plans on doing to quell his opposition should he win or even should he lose. Lets say there are threats, they say that theyre going to threaten riots if they lose on election night. Assuming we get a winner on election night. What are you going to do. Well put them down very quickly if they do that. We have the right do that. We have the power to do that if we want. Look, its called insurrection, we send in and we do it very easy. Its very easy. Id rather not do that because theres no reason for it. But if we had to wed put it down within minutes. Within minutes. Will put it down within minutes. The president of the United States actually said that. Joining me now, former u. S. Ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul. Hes a professor of Political Science at Stanford University and International Affairs news. Hes the author of from cold war to hot peace. He thinks this matter is important because its very early for him where he is. Were always grateful for you being on the show. I just cant get past that last thing. Yeah, i mean he was huff. I was work hard. Because theres you have to have a lot of tv time to get all this news out. Its been five minutes of me reading what we have largely learned this week. But i cannot get over the fact that the president says if people protest the results of the election, it is an insurrection. Well put it down quickly. You worked in russia. You are used to the kind of language we are hearing more and more of. Something you are calling authoritarian populism. Well, this was extraordinary, youre right. Absolutely extraordinary. What you just went through. Punctuated by this very dangerous statement that the president of the United States just made. This is exactly the language that autocrats use. They intimidate people. It is a right of all americans to protest. And he is putting those americans on notice that if they exercise their Constitutional Rights to go out and protest peacefully, that hes going to, quote, put them down. I mean, thats very scary language and i really hope that the president reconsiders talking like that as we get closer to our president ial election. This is a dangerous time for american democracy. We need everybody who cares about democracy to have a peaceful election and a peaceful transition of power if theres a new president elected. You know, i think if you said Something Like that, michael, i think i could say i hope you reconsider what youre saying. But im wondering if this is indicative of the thought process the president whats, given the kinds of leaders who he admires. The fact is the president is not looking at this using the language of democracy. That is not his love language. He is actually he likes seeing authoritarian leaders. He likes people putting down protests. He likes people talking about the radicalization of the opposition. Its something you said that you witnessed in russia, the idea that people in power continue not to debate the opposition on the basis of ideas, but to accuse them and to undermine them. Thats right. Hes theres some parts of his Foreign Policy that are radically inconsistent, but one thing that has been very consistent over the last four years is his support for autocrats and bic tatetorsdicta he plays this game what aboutism . Well, we do killing too. And the most dangerous thing that he does, is he calls his opponents the enemy of the people. Thats a phrase i think, in russian, thats a phrase that stalin used to use all the time. Autocrats all over the world try to portray their opposition not as part of a constitutional loyal opposition, but as enemies of the people. Because that then gives you an excuse and a license to do things against them that are unconstitutional. In parliamentary democracies, the opposition is actually often referred to as the loyal opposition because theres an important political role for them to play. I dont want to play the video of him doing this, but donald trump told fox news, he used this sentence with respect to joe biden. He said, i think theres probably possibly drugs involved. Thats what i hear. You know, its just one of the random extra criticisms he has. But that last four words, thats what i hear. Its an interesting technique on Donald Trumps part. He doesnt have to attest to it, he doesnt have to say its true, he doesnt have to tell you where he got information. He just heard it somewhere. Classic disinformation, right . People are saying thats what i hear. Its then therefore its a license to say whatever he wants and he can blame somebody else. But lets be really clear about this. There is no evidence whatsoever that what the president of the United States of america said about a political opponent, his president ial opponent in this race is true. Theres no evidence to say it. So that comment is no different than the conversation you were just having a few minutes ago about russian disinformation campaigns, right . Its exactly the same thing. Its very dangerous for a democracy. Its very empowering for autocrats. Its very dangerous for democratic societies. You tweeted about the fact that we still have were averaging a thousand deaths a day from coronavirus. Canada to the north of us, which didnt engage in this nonsense about we dont want to panic people and new zealand and other countries, germany, canada had zero deaths. We could have been in a different place than we are now. Absolutely. I mean, its tragic. Its theres no other way to describe it. If you compare the United States to europe, you compared the United States to canada, the United States to taiwan, we are the worst performer here. And i think your know, at the end of the day, weve been talking a lot about words and the president s words, but i strongly believe, i like continue to invoke ronald reagan. Are we better off today than we were four years ago . And how did this president handle this tragedy . Lets be clear, he didnt make this tragedy, this is a global tragedy, the pandemic. But how did he handle it . And its the data, you know, as somebody who teaches about data and comparative data, i think is overwhelming how poorly weve done. It could have been so different. We could have been like our friends just to the north of us. Many things are the same, right . Theyre the same gdp, theyre the same geography. This is the kind of comparison that as a social scientist you want and yet the outcome has been radically different. Thats because leadership matters. Ambassador, again, we are deeply grateful that you always willingly get up early to talk to us. Michael mcfaul say former United States ambassador to russia. Hes the author of a very important book from cold war to hot peace. The inside story of russia and america. A new whistleblower complaint reveals an alarming distortion of facts from the white house. One example inflaming the number of suspected terrorists coming through the Mexican Border to boost support for trumps border wall. 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It alleges that Kirstjen Nielsen asked brian murphy, former head of intelligence and analysis and now the whistleblower to inflate and lie about the number of known suspected terrorists crossing the Mexican Border. All of this was to boost support for the president s wall. It gets worse. The dhs also gave false information to congress alleging that thousands of terrorists were cross the border. Back in 2019, our colleagues here at nbc news published a r story detailing this claim and debunking it. Nbc looked at the data and is there were thousands there were not thousand of people from the terror watch list crossing the southern border, there were six. Shortly after the dhs pushed nbc to retract the story claiming once again that the numbers were far higher, nbc did not retract the story because it was correct. And now the dhs whistleblower says that he got pressured to inflate those numbers as well. So, this is our own department of Homeland Security secretary, the one paid by taxpayer dollars, taxed with tasked with keeping us safe, knowingly inflating numbers about alleged incoming terrorists. Trumps fear mongering against migrants and Asylum Seekers has been obvious has for his pension for ub substantiated facts for him and his staff to keep up the charade. Back in 2019, the president tweeted and unsubstantiated claim about the border and suggested that perhaps terrorists were headed from the middle east through our southern border. He wrote, quote, prayer runs were found at the Mexican Border and people coming across the board, he which would be a big surprise. This is a years old rumor and never backed up. Joining me now, former fbi and special agent alley. Hes the author of the just recently unredacted the black banners and another back called anatomy of terror. The black banners is important because i spent a lot of time showing you all the redacted version. Ali has won his battle with the cia and its now unredact and available. I have to talk to you. This is the 19th anniversary yesterday of 9 11. Something that you were very closely involved in, the investigation of prior to and after. And one of the things you write about in your book is that we didnt do the right thing with the intelligence that we actually had. And had we done the right thing with it, those people wouldnt have died or at least some of those deaths could have been, if not all of them, could have been prevented. In a different way, were doing the same thing today. Were denying actual intelligence we have. Were faking other intelligence, and in this case its for political gain. Thank you, ali. And thank you for all your support on the black banners. I know you raise a lot of awareness on your shows over the year about ridiculous classifications of whats in the but youre correct. Youre very correct here. I think were seeing the same things that weve seen years ago happening all over again. This culture that we live in today is merely taking its next step with the trump administration. So far we still have no accountability and the non transparency for what happened in iraq war, connect Saddam Hussein to the fake disinformation of what the torture and support. And i think with the win in classifying black lives matters, hopefully we can bring facts and we can bring transparency into the picture. Remember became a partisan issue, became an issue for President Trump, canned dated trump at the time was saying during the campaign trail, you want to bring waterboarding and worse than waterboarding. Now, the American Public and the world can see exactly how we get information that save lives and how their own government did a Propaganda Campaign of disinformation conveying in order alleged efficacy of torture. Very similar to what you mentioned now what appears to be also playing, you know, loose with intelligence, exaggerating intelligence, faking information, declassifying what they wanted to declassify and classify information that does not fit the political narrative. And this is exactly whats happening today. And unfortunately, we need the transparency because we have i think our democracy will suffer tremendously. And as you mentioned today the danger, of course the danger is that if you direct dhs resources, which this government actually did, to talking about the fact that there are terrorists coming across the southern border which is why you have to redirect all these people and you know that in dhs, they directed everybody to the border, you neglect other threa threats. In the old days it would have been threats from the outside. But something you wrote about, is there were real extremist threats in america that we ignored because we justified sending all those dhs agents to the border because apparently there were all these Foreign Terrorists coming across which was a lie. Well, yeah. Absolutely. And another thing in that complaint also talks about the white supremacists, they wanted to put the truth about how dangerous it is. And thats something that ive been advocating for with other members of congress and a lot of people actually in dhs and other agencies about raising awareness of that threat. This is really dangerous. We cannot play loose with intelligence. We cannot classify what does not fit a narrative and put disinformation out. What were witnessing today, just as ive been watching this since 8 00, since the beginning of the show, theres a fire hose thats coming from the administration. Fire hose of falsehood, of lies, conspiracies, and unfortunately all of it fits with them. The disinformation model of the russians. And unfortunately were doing this not to ourselves. We are dividing ourselves based on these things. I want to i have to ask you about the news about Jamal Khashoggi. According to business insider, donald trump told bob woodward, i saved his ass talking about the prince africa shogis brutal murder. You know jamal and you were particularly concerned about the degree to which the United States has been complicit with saudi arabia on this matter. Well, its not only the Jamal Khashoggi. The principle has bee has been g americans in the consulate in istanbul was one of the atrocities that he did. Look at the disafter thenerster look at the sending death squads to intimidate and murder dissidents overseas. Look at the whats happening inside saudi arabia in arresting human rights activists and reformist. And while allowing clerics to issue for example, first jew and shiit. And to burn churches. Those can still operate freely. So the relationship unfortunately today, thiszati administration is with saudi arabia and its a oneway street. Taking act with impunity this hurts our national interests. This hurts our security initiatives in the middle east, itatnd hur and it hurts saudi good to see you. Hes a former fbi special agent, author of the black banners and newly unredacted black banners that doesnt have the black lines across the page anymore and as well as the author of anatomy of terror. California has never seen a fire this large or more fierce than the one burning north of sacramento right now. In oregon, 500,000 people have been told to flee their homes as official brace for a potential mass fatality incident. Many have already lost everything. Grab some papers, grab some papers and stuff and threw this is it. This is what ive got. What youre wearing right now . This is what ive got. This is what ive got. Ive got this is what ive got. Or whats trending. 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Look at these photos from San Francisco that people sent in earlier this week. If an apocalyptic glow in the sky doesnt tell you that Climate Change shehere, what wi . Warm temperatures drive the fuels and all you need say spark. President trump has been absent from this years fires. It took three weeks before he even mentioned them at all. But hes a top forestry expert. You got clean your floors, you got clean your forests. Theyve many, many years of leaves and broken trees and their like like so flammable, you touch em and it goes up. I really debate having to run things like that, but i think its important that you actually hear them. Erin joins us now from california. Erin. Reporter hey, ali. Well, yesterday California Governor Gavin Newsom was in this area touring the devastation. And were looking at acker after acre of scorched wilderness. Gavin newsom said that the cause of this disaster is clear in an exclusive interview with nbcs miguel almanguer. Take a. Theres a sustainable problem. And that is Climate Change. Its a climate emergency. This is what everyone predicted in the is what all the experts have been saying for decades. Climate change is here. Its real. Its omni present. What more evidence do you need . If you dont believe in Climate Change, come to the state of florida. You dont believe in Climate Change, walk in our shoes. Reporter Governor Newsom also talked about the air quality here specifically. Its so bad its kind of stinging my eyes right now, ali. He said that its the equivalent to smoke 20 packs of cigarettes at once, pointing to other cities and theyre suffering from the air quality as well. Portland, seattle, and San Francisco among some of the worst air quality in the world now in those cities. And newsom said it is a warning shot really for the rest of the country. Erin, i know you know your way around report and breaking news, but you and your crew stay safe out there and wear respirators because you need to watch your i tantake of that sm. Thank you. The United States department of justice is now acting as the president s personal law firm. How attorney general bill barrs Blind Loyalty to President Trump is chipping away at democracy. P is chipping away at democracy. Looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. Theyre going to be paying for this for a long time. They will, but with accident forgiveness allstate wont raise your rates just because of an accident, even if its your fault. Cut sonny. Was that good . Line the desert never lies. Isnt that what i said . No you were talking about allstate and insurance. I just. When i. Lets try again. Everybody back to one. Accident forgiveness from allstate. Click or call for a quote today. So to breathe better, i started oncedaily anoro. Copd tries to say, go this way. 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But while his official title is the United States attorney general, we all know that that, too, is a title that barr is essentially acting as trumps personal attorney. Which in a way makes sense his his other personal attorney Rudy Giuliani has been staying busy meeting with the ukrainian lawmaker who they say is an active russian agent trying to discredit joe biden ae discredit joe bidens campaign. Trump has found someone willing to put everything on the line and risk his career . Why . What makes bill barr apparently more loyal to donald trump than to the American People . We dont really know the answer to that. But we do know if undying loyalty wasnt there, trump well, barr wouldnt be there. Remember, before he was appointed attorney general, he sent an 18 page mem know in 2018 claiming that a president cannot obstruct justice, in other words, a president is above the law in the is before he had the job. Seems to have gotten him the job. Lets get back to barrs hypocrisy that the Justice System shouldnt be used as a political weapon. This week we learned that the Justice Department wants to take over for the president s defense team against the defamation lawsuit. Shes accused trump of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s. But barr claims the president s denial makes it a doj matter. Listen to this. The case can be certified for shifting to the federal courts and the United States can be substituted as the responsible party. This was a normal application of the law. The law is clear. It is done frequently. And the little tempest thats going on is largely because of the bizarre political environment which we live. Its done frequently . By the way, whos paying for this . The american taxpayers. Your money will be used to defend the man who claims hes really rich all the time against allegations that he defamed a woman who accuses him of rape. Allegedly a rape that took place long before he was president. So think about that. While trump allegedly commits the crime, youre spending the dime. And while barr tries to convince the public that hes not trumps puppet, thousand of former department of justice employees and law professors have disagreed. Previously calling for barrs resignation three times this year alone. Others have called for him to be disbarred. Including in february when he interfered in roger stones case leading four of his prosecutors to resign after reducing the sentence of roger stone whos only qualification for having his science reducentence reducee he was Donald Trumps friend. And now, a top aid to john durham, the attorney leading the socalled investigation into the russia investigation has quit. Nora dana hee was concerned the Investigation Team is being pressed for political reasons to produce a report before its work is done making it clear that barr is trying to spin this investigation so that it is released before the election in an attempt to help the president win. Why is the department of justice working to hard to get the president reelected . Theres plenty of speculation that it could be because trump could face indictment after leaving office and this week we learned from the president s former Attorney Michael Cohen that trump may have a plan for all of it. My theory is that if he loses, theres still the time between the election and the time that the next president would take office. And during that time, my suspicion is that he will resign as president , he will allow mike pence to take over, and he will then go ahead and have mike pence pardon him. Sounds fanciful, but i wonder if we shouldnt discount that. Since barr replaced the unqualified acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker in 2019, he has done nothing but prove that when trump says jump, barr will ask which line would you like me to cross today . This is not how the rule of law in a functioning democracy works, and that should terrify every american citizen. Joining me now, former u. S. Attorney joyce vance. Joyce is also an msnbc contributor and university of alabama law professor. I dont even know where to start with all of this. Lets start with noras resignation. She worked with john durham. We are hearing, we will know much more about her until yesterday probably nobody knew her name. But what we want to know is, why did she resign and is there pressure for coming from barr to john durham to release this socalled investigation into the russia investigation before the election . I think the short answer is that we dont know for certain yet. But nora dannehy, a longtime career law professor of john durhams had left the Justice Department and came back at his request and got involved in, as you point out, the socalled durham investigation, the investigation into the origins of the russia investigation. It is unusual for someone of her stature and seriousness to come back into doj to work on an investigation and then to leave doj just weeks before it comes to fruition. So thats a little bit of a red flag here. But the reality is, theres been a lot of reporting from barrs mouth itself that he expects to release an interim report on the durham investigation. That would be highly unusual this close to an election. What barr says is not unusual is the e. Jeanne carroll accused the president of rape. They had a back and forth. She then filed a defamation suit against him. This is as donald trump. Barr says its commonplace, it happens all the time, first of all, my producers looked into this, they couldnt find one example of when its happened before where a president has had prosecution taken over of a case taken over from something that occurred before he was president. But whats the how do you think about this . I think that we see barr doing this an awful lot, ali. He dresses up these actions he takes that are completely violative of doj policy and practice and tries to put them in this reasonable face. He tells us, well there are happens all the time. And, you know, this is an attorney general who earlier this month claims that he didnt know that it wasnt legal to vote more than once in some states. And we all know that. This is, i think, the level of hypocrisy that hes capable of. So with carroll what hes saying that the reasonable part is, that these west fall certifications, certifications that an employee of the executive branch should be represented by doj in a legal case, that does happen. It happens when the employees conduct is within the line and scope of their duties, of their federal employment. So here now we have the attorney general taking over the expense and the worries of handling this case for the president for allegations about an event thats 20 years old. Unless the president wants to claim that raping a woman and defaming her is within the scope of his duties, its real tough to see how this is a legitimate takeover of the case by the Justice Department. Yeah, well, you know what . Crazy things have happened in the last four years, joyce. Thank you again for joining me. Its a big treat for me. I got to talk to you last night on the last word and then this morning. I know you havena havent had a of sleep. 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Were committed to helping ensure trulicity is available and affordable. Learn more at trulicity. Com. George floyds cries for help woke the nation. Pleading with his last gasp saying he couldnt breathe caught on video, a moment that sparked outrage and a movement for change. His death became the latest symbol of racism and Police Brutality in america. He lay on the ground handcuffed and pinned under the knee of Minneapolis Police officer derek show v cho van fen while three other officers stood by. Yesterday they appeared in court for the first time together. Several reports indicate that theyre now turning on each other asking the presiding judge if they could be tried separately. The prosecutor wants them tried as a group. The judge who has scheduled the trial to begin in members of the flied hearing were on hand with their attorney benjamin crump. We just sat through a very emotional hearing where people tried to kill george floyd a second time. They made all kind of foolish allegations talking about he died from a drug overdose, the only overdose that killed george floyd was an overdose of Excessive Force and racism that a minnesota, Minneapolis Police department floyds death on may 25th sparked a National Movement for change. Civil action which began in minneapolis has brought has bro about changes in Police Departments across the country so tomorrow as i begin the push to what is now being called the most consequential election of our lifetimes there seem no more appropriate point to kick off velshi across america than in minneapolis. It was there covering the protests, covering that story i was myself hit with rubber bullets. It sounds like theyre chanting do it. Like theyre daring the state trooper to fire on them again. [ bleep ]. I got hit. Hold on. Well, the memory of george floyd and the activism that followed is part of the story. Minnesota is also considered a swing state. A recent headline reading a tale of two minnesotas. You go into the seven county metro area and its biden country. Both candidates pouring millions of dollars into the state trying to gain the upper happened. Joining me now, staff writer with the new yorker and he recently served as the correspondent on a new front line pbs special title policing the police, 2020. I guess the question i have for you is that people like you and others have known about Police Brutality and Police Violence and racism in the Justice System for a long time but it became very real and very obvious to a number of americans who werent paying attention arguably with the death of others, but the death of george floyd ignited a movement in america, the likes of which we have not seen since the 1960s. Thats absolutely true, and i do want to take a second to just say that i was closely observing your coverage in minneapolis and you did really phenomenal work there. I did want to commend you. Thank you. But i think that because of the exquisite brutality and the abject horror of that film, 8 minutes and 46 seconds where at any minute a different decision could be made and mr. Floyd might still be with us and moment after moment, thats an exceptional degree of commitment for the act of ex tingishing mr. Floyds life and for many people it was a shock to the conscience and people recoiled, terrified that Something Like that could happen but for many other people this was predictable. In fact, if you looked at the Police Department history in minnesota excuse me, in minneapolis and the surrounding areas you would have seen many incidents that pointed to the possibility of something George Floyds death occurring. And so thats what we wanted to look at with this film, the fact that there seem to be so many indicators when Something Like this happens. It really happens in isolation, theres so many indicators and we wanted to look at what are the possibilities of actually doing policing differently. And one of the things you and others talk about is that you cannot look at this in a vacuum. It is part of a larger issue of inequality and injustice. Lets play a little bit from the documentary. What i see in newark gives me hope. Let us take a knee. Its an experiment trying to move beyond policing and at least in some measure release problems that have plagued black america for far too long. What people really want is they dont want to be murdered running at a traffic stop or choked to death because they got a loose cigarette or you know, their neck stood on because of a 20 bill. Are americans understanding that message that this isnt deciding about whether brooks was drunk behind the wheel when he was asleep in the parking lot of a wendys or whether george floyd was passing a 20 bill or whether eric garner had loose cigarettes. This is about something deeper. Sure. Its about the fundamental relationship we have to the criminal Justice System in the United States. And so that conversation that you showed, i was talking with the mayor of newark, new jersey, and the mayor is at the forefront of some of these efforts to try to do Something Different in terms of policing but hes also my College Classmate from Howard University and so we were talking about those broader kinds of systemic issues that the initial offense is not justification for loss of life in any of those situations and so were going back, you know, once again to the question of how does this culminate in such completely disproportionate exercises of force and situations that seem like they should have been resolved in some other kind of way. Well, hopefully we get somewhere with this. Thanks again for your support and for the coverage that youve helped us provide and the context that youve helped us to deliver to our viewers. A correspondent on a new front line pbs special called policing the police airing tuesday. A breaking update on the Coronavirus Vaccine front. Clinical trials have resumed. The trial was paused after one of the poll volunteered reportedly got sick. They have investigated and they say it is safe to resume the trial. Weve got a special show tomorrow. The first in our new series, velshi across america 2020. Ill be in minneapolis starting tomorrow at 8 00 a. M. Eastern. Some big shows coming up this morning. Coming up on a. M. Joy, Rudy Giuliani is going to try to explain his relationship with a freshly sanctioned russian agent. You are watching msnbc. Agent. You are watching msnbc thousands of women with metastatic Breast Cancer, which is Breast Cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. Ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr her2 metastatic Breast Cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy. 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