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Basically, that if he were president , the United States would act as if we were georgia. We, america, would go to war with russia on behalf of this other country. And at the time that john mccain president ial candidate was pledging a war with russia because we are all georgians now, at the time that he was doing that, the lobbying firm of his top Foreign Policy adviser Randy Scheunemann had u. S. , been hired and put on the payroll of the government of georgia. Thats the one time you might remember Randy Scheunemann, that might have got the United States in a shooting war with russia. But mccain didnt win the presidency and he went back to a standard government policy guy. You havent heard much about him since then. Until this week. Until this week a really, really weird story about Randy Scheunemann was broken by the daily beast. He belongs to a private skiing club in montana. I did not know there was such a thing as a private skiing club. I thought like, you know, you buy a lift ticket, then you go ski on a mountain with other people who are skiing on the mountain and thats skiing. Apparently there are places you can do it privately without the riffraff and Randy Scheunemann belongs to one of those. At his private skiing lift, they report that he got into a fight. He got into a fight on the ski lift with a white supremacist. This guy. Who was americas foremost white supremacist. This is a guy named Richard Spencer who was forcibly deported from budapest when he tried to organize and International White supremacist conference and the nation of hungary caught him trying to sneak into their country even though they had banned him. He calls for the creation of a white homeland. He runs an Organization Called the National Policy institute to try to advance the goal of a white homeland. His group is based in whitefish, montana. Hes also founded a few online white supremacist magazines and web sites including this one which is called alternative right. And apparently making a career as a white supremacist leader these days is a pretty remunerative thing. At least the dude is making enough money to belong to the same private ski club that Randy Scheunemann does in montana. Who even knew there were private ski clubs . Well, there are. The two of them got on a fight on the ski lift. Insults were exchanged, punches were threatened. The reason it all broke in the news this week is that private ski club in montana, called the Big Mountain Club, they apparently in this fight between two of their members felt they had to decide between them. Which of these two guys was going to be allowed to stay as a member of their private ski club. Randy scheunemann washington policy adviser guy, or the arian nation white supremacist guy who is trying to build a homeland for the endangered white race from his home base in montana. The Big Mountain Club in whitefish, montana, decided theyd go with the white supremacist. They kicked Randy Scheunemann out and kept the ku klux other guy, yep in the wake of that, you have Whitefish City Council meetings that have suddenly gotten very crowded. They look like this, totally packed with residents who apparently realize they have the leader of a White Nationalist movement living in their town getting in fights on their ski lifts. Local antiracist effort has sprung up in whitefish. Theyre trying to figure out some way to force this guy out or maybe pass an antidiscrimination ordinance that would annoy the guy that he would leave on his own. But what happened in that ski lift fight between the washington establishment guy and the kook out there white wing fringe guy, i mean, despite the fact that amazingly the kook right wing fringe guy appears to have won, is that that ski lift fight is a tiny snowy pageant version, like the winter passion play version of whats happening in washington right now between the mainstream establishment Randy Scheunemann types and the guys that keep beating them in fights. Hes basically organizing for an International Race war or at least telling people to prepare for the International Race war that he certainly thinks is coming. He wants to build a white homeland. If you look at the online racist forums and magazines that he started, some of it tries to appear sort of academic, sort of pundity. This new variety of White Supremacy tries to play at appearing theyre mainstream. Sometimes, though, the real thing just slips through. This is one of the blog posts at alternative right, this thing that Richard Spencer founded. This is a post they put up on Holocaust Remembrance Day last year. As you can see theyve titled it holocaust amnesia day. Then under a picture of a stack of corpses, People Killed in the holocaust, the post says sarcastically, i cannot believe it crept up on me today. Its Holocaust Memorial day and im fresh out of onions. The implication is how am i going to force myself to pretend to cry over the holocaust which may or may not have happened yeah. This is alternative right. This is the guy who fought with Randy Scheunemann on the ski lift in montana and who the town of whitefish, montana, is freaking out about him running his business out of it. This guy, his name is Jason Richwine. You see the post is called model minority question mark. This is Jason Richwines posts at alternative right. This one happens to be about how hispanics are inherently disposed to criminal behavior. He argues in this post that you can statistically control for all other factors and you still end up with this racial innate truth that hispanics are just more criminally minded than white people are. This is Jason Richwine. He also does this pseudo academic white supremacist stuff in other places. He wrote a doctoral dissertation, at harvard this which he tried to make the case that nonwhite people are genetically inferior when it comes to intelligence. Therefore he argued immigration policy should be used to keep United States as white as possible. The average iq of immigrants in the United States is substantially lower than that of the white native population. No one knows whether hispanics will reach iq parity with whites but the prediction that new hispanic immigrants will have lowiq children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against. Then he goes on to Richard Spencers alternative right and explains how hispanics are inherently criminal, then in his career somehow he cross overs into supposedly respectable right wing thing tank land and he continues making the same case. Race is different in all sorts of ways. Probably the most important way is in iq. Decades of psychometric testing has indicated that at least in america you have jews with the highest average iq usually followed by east asian, then nonjewish whites, hispanics and black americans. These are real differences. They wont go away tomorrow. Therefore we have to address them in our discussions and our debates. You can just rank the races by intelligence. Black people and hispanic people are just inherently stupid. Inherently stupider than white people, at least. This is just the facts. These are real differences. Generation to generation to generation, its never going to go away. Its racially inherent. You ought to think about that when devising your immigration policy. Think about race. Its disgusting, right . In the 2012 election, republicans did poorly. President obama got reelected, democrats picked up seats in the house and senate. One who was not up for reelection in 2012 but still seemed to be a very safe seat was jim demint of South Carolina. Right after the 2012 election, jim demint of South Carolina surprised everyone by quitting the United States senate. He quit right in the middle of his second term because he said i had wanted to go run the Heritage Foundation. Screw this senate thing. I want real power. You might remember after the 2012 losses for the Republican Party they did an autopsy report where they decided that the party should reach out to more minorities and even though the people who wrote the autopsy report were not supposed to consider any specific policy measures, they said they couldnt resist and unanimously recommended that the Republican Party endorse and champion Immigration Reform. Jim demint said to heck with that, he quit the party and went to run the Heritage Foundation, which he then turned into the main conservative institution fighting against that, fighting against Immigration Reform and specifically taking on the mission of making sure that no elected republicans would actually support Immigration Reform. He would not only draw the line, he would hold the line. And to start that process once he was in his new job, jim demint hired good old Jason Richwine as a senior policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation and got Jason Richwine to be one of the two authors on this Heritage Foundation report on why it would be a terrible thing, a fiscally disastrous thing for america to reform immigration law. Jason richwine, the guy who posted the white supremacist websites, who said you can rank groups by their iq. Black and brown are inherently criminal and theyre at the bottom racially speaking when it comes to intelligence. Jim demint had him look at what Immigration Reform would mean for our country. And it turns out, when Jason Richwine looks at Something Like that, he thinks its a bad idea. He decided that Immigration Reform would be very expensive for our nation. He crunched the numbers and decided that it would cost the american taxpayers 6. 3 trillion. Trillion. Trill 6 point it would be the cost of going to the moon and back a thousand times. Thats what his calculating machine says when he was asked to calculate the cost. His calculating machine was built in a beer hall in bavaria in 1923 so maybe it doesnt count that well anymore. Thanks to reporting first at the washington post, then some other places, it pretty quickly came out that Jason Richwine, this guy who the Heritage Foundation had hired to write this report had a long history of white supremacist writings. And when that all came out, heritage did not fire him. They allowed him to quietly resign. It was an interesting thing sort of in terms of the history of all this. Im not sure it seemed all that important at the time but now it seems important. They never rescinded the Jason Richwine report. This is still the Heritage Foundations official analysis of Immigration Reform in america and what it would cost based on Jason Richwines eugenicist methodology. And the reason it would be so costly is immigrants are a terribly costly thing to our nation because theyre inherently racially interior to white people and theyd never contribute because theyre sort of subhuman, at least subwhite. Theyll always be economic parasites because, you know, brown. They never rescinded that report. They never fired the guy either. He did resign. And the Heritage Foundation is implacably opposed to any Immigration Reform because of what they think of immigrants. And the Heritage Foundation has won the argument with the Republican Party on this. You remember after 2012 the Republican Party was going to embrace officially and champion Immigration Reform. There are now only two years later no republicans in positions of power in National Politics who are in favor of Immigration Reform. Jim demint has won on that. And now that president obama has today announced that he will move forward on his own to reform as much of the immigration form as he can. Today announced tomorrow in a primetime address hell announce and prescribe the policy changes, jim demint and his group no longer have to fight to hold republicans in line. Theyve already done that. Theyve already won that fight with the republican. Now what they have to do is lead republican strategy for how to fight president obama who is going to do this. And what they decided they want is a Government Shutdown. No blank check for amnesty. A Lame Duck Congress has to pass legislation by three weeks from today in order to keep the government open, keep the government funded. They say the government should not be funded unless the president is also blocked from taking executive action. And they know what theyre doing here in terms of this as a tactic. The last time we got a Government Shutdown was this time last year. It was because of jim demint and the Heritage Foundation. Its because they they really made it happen. The Heritage Action to defund obamacare is in full swing. So far its getting massive turnouts everywhere it pops up. The guy behind all this and the nationwide tour, the president of the Heritage Foundation, the former senator jim demint. Well be doing dozens of town halls around the country. Im convinced the more americans know about obamacare, the more theyll stand with those of us who want to stop it. Want to stop it magically by shutting down the government. The Heritage Foundation even did stuff like basically movie trailers to try to build a National Movement to support the shutdown effort. But if obama would not accept a funding bill for the government that fully funds the government because it didnt have his failed law in it, then he would be shutting down the government. And thats a case were going to take to the American People. The fight against obamacare. Its not over. You might remember during the 16day shutdown, the last one we had, remember, they would hold these periodic votes about whether they should reopen the government. Heritage foundation was whipping those votes. Key vote, telling republicans theyd be rated on their Heritage Foundation score card on whether they defied jim demint and voted to reopen the government. They were giving the republicans orders vote no when you have a chance to reopen the government. They kept it shut for 15 days. Sometimes instead they would out of fear cancel the vote. Look at this. Fox news is told that a decision by Heritage Action to come out against the emerging bill drove some republicans to oppose the plan and help therefore helped sideline the proposal. Heritage said we shouldnt do it so we stopped trying to do it. We got a 16day Government Shutdown last year because jim demint and heritage said they wanted it. Quite frankly Heritage Action came out against any compromise and the republicans could not come together. Heritage foundation and jim demint are the people who organized the last Government Shutdown. And Republican Leadership said they didnt want a shutdown then either. Right . Back a year ago the Republican Leadership was like, we dont want a shutdown. Of course were not going to shut down the government. This is the last thing they want. Same thing theyre saying now, they dont want another shutdown. But you know what . Last time around these kookie guys on the ski lift made them do it. Got to metaphorically stay in the private ski club, the kookie guys did, not the establishment guys did. Now theyre trying to make republicans do it again. Even as republicans say they dont want to, theyre trying to force them to. Had the heritage now telling republicans they should fight Immigration Reform the same way they fought obama care this time last year. No blank check, shut it down. Republican leadership, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, all the rest of the leadership is out saying we dont want a shutdown just like this time last year. They had hal rogers come forward and say he thinks he has a plan, how to defund just the parts of the government that specifically relate to what president obama wants on immigration. You could keep the rest of the government open and running. Today the Heritage Foundation laid down the marker on that and said, oh, no, republicans, thats not good enough. Nothing short of a full shutdown is good enough. They said this recision policy that hal rogers has come up with, that, too, would be a blank check for amnesty. So this time last year the republican establishment fought the crazy shutdown people and the crazy shutdown people won and we got a Government Shutdown. That was over obama care. Now the fight is over Immigration Reform, but it is still the fight between the same Republican Leadership and the same crazy shutdown people. And this time on this issue theyre really crazy. To the point of publishing reports about Immigration Reform that come with their own pointy little white hat that has eye holes in it. Jim demint and the shutdown chorus on the substance of immigration, theyre really out there, on the get deported from budapest eugenicist fringe. But you know what . Every time recently when weve seen the kook fringe and the establishment fight each other on the white weve seen Randy Scheunemann and the kook guy fighting, its the kook guy that wins the fight. Are we going to have a Government Shutdown from the republicans in answer to what obama will announce tomorrow night . Who is going to call the shots here . Who is running this place . Watch this space. On the eve of his big announcement of Immigration Reform he invited 18 democrats to come to the white house for dinner. Among the lawmakers there tonight was congressman benray lujan of new mexico. vo you ar. Maestro of project management. Baron of the buildout. You need a permit. 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On the eve of his big announcement of Immigration Reform he invited 18 democrats to come to the white house for dinner. Among the lawmakers there tonight was congressman benray lujan of new mexico. Hes been named the new chair of the Democratic Congressional campaign committee, which means it will be his job to oversee the effort by democrats to win back control of the house. Congressman lujan joins us live from the white house having stepped out from this meeting. Thanks for braving the cold for us. I appreciate you being here. Rachel, a pleasure to be with you here. Its not too cold out. Oh, good, youre not chattering your teeth yet, so i dont feel guilty yet. What beans can you spill about what youve learned about the president s announcement for tomorrow . What we learned tonight is an important briefing about the actions that the president will be taking with comprehensive Immigration Reform. You know, actions that were taken by president s since eisenhower, like ronald reagan, george h. W. Bush who took action to keep families together. Bushs action kept 40 of those who were undocumented together. What the president laid out was a very clear plan. Its going to be bold, but its going to be tough. Accountability, paying taxes, contrary to what republicans are saying, i think marco rubio said it best when he said that the environment that we have today is de facto amnesty. What the president is doing is not amnesty. Its accountability. In terms of what the white house and what you guys are expecting from the republicans, does the white house and do you guys in congress on the democratic side have any expectation of what republicans are going to try to do to stop this and what the sort of counterstrategy is going to be from the democratic side . Well, this is the first step. And the president s taken an important step, but its the first step. I hope that House Republicans use the rest of this year to move comprehensive Immigration Reform because its House Republicans that have been stalling this bill for 510 days. Republicans have a chance to act. But sadly were hearing more and more talk from republicans about a Government Shutdown. Im certainly hopeful theyre listening to the American People because the American People do not want the government shut down. You have an important new job in democratic politics. Youll be in charge of maximizing the number of house seats for democrats in the next election thinking with that sort of electoral hat on, i have to ask you, if you think that it would have been a better political move for the white house to do this before this last election, anybody who might have been protected by the president not acting in a pro immigrant way seems like they lost anyway. Should this have happened earlier . Could it have been politically helpful for democrats . House republicans would constantly say the president should or should not act. This is about keeping families together. Im certainly hopeful that we can talk about that more Going Forward as opposed to what the political and the politics that republicans were throwing at us on this. Look, rachel, its important that the president take this action but even more important that House Republicans move forward and get something passed. We have a few days left and we need to get it passed. But in the end the American People are going to watch closely and theyre going to see who is for them and who is against them. Congressman ben lujan of new mexico, congratulations on your new gig, sir. Thank you. Look forward to talking to you again. Indeed, thanks. Much more to come on this busy news night including a best new thing in the world that people that work on this show have been begging for for three years now. Three years theyve been asking for this. Theyre finally getting it. Its a good one. 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Shot by a group called united we dream. United we dream is one of the more active voices on the Immigration Reform movement. By active, i mean directly active. For months direct action immigration activists have been pushing hard for reform even after republicans in the house dropped the ball on Immigration Reform as legislation earlier this year, even though president obama has been their ally on the substantive need for Immigration Reform and House Republicans were the ones that blocked it united we dream and other activist groups made a decision to keep their pressure focused on president obama. Congressional republicans never did act, but tomorrow night the president will make his official announcement of his plan to reform the immigration system by executive action. So how does that feel to the folks who have been pushing president obama on this for months and months and months now . Hes been saying he agrees but theyve been pushing and pushing. Now that he says that will happen, how do they feel about that. Cofounder of united we dream. Ms. Jimenez, thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. I feel like saying congratulations on whats about to happen, but i guess i should ask if you feel vindicated, if you feel like what the president s about to do is in part a reaction to the pressure you guys put on him . Definitely. I think for us, rachel, this is the result of months and years of organizing, of advocating, of the courage of people who are undocumented, directly affected by immigration laws who have come out, shared their stories, like myself, like my parents and many who have organized across the country. Really the announcement thats planned for tomorrow is the result of all of that work for many years not only of young people but all of our communities. So it is a victory to see all of our effort has led the president to take this decision. Certainly not everything we had hoped for and advocated for but something were proud of to see how undocumented communities have pushed to see this happen. In terms of that decision obviously its a statement in itself to have people who are legally vulnerable because theyre undocumented because they have undocumented family members to see people put themselves in a position of both naming themselves, coming out, putting themselves in a position where they could be arrested, thats a brave thing to do and its a statement in itself. Theres also the strategic decision to go not just be on that Comfort Level but to also really target president obama who all the while said he agreed with you. How did you arrive at that decision and why did you know that would pay off . Why not spend all of this time i know you protested people like john boehner, too. But why not put all their pressure on the republicans . Rachel, actions are louder than words. Weve realized this discussion and this debate about immigration has been a political football for both parties. It is not until today that we actually see some actual action behind the words. And so, you know, we had been advocating for legislation to happen. Ultimately we know that it is going to be a permanent legislation that allows our communities and people like me to become citizens one day because were eager to be part of the fabric of society. Were already part of it. We want to contribute. And thats been the goal. But it was very clear from republicans that they were just not on board. Yeah. They blocked Immigration Reform. The Senate Passed a bipartisan bill last year and Speaker Boehner and the rest of the gop did not pass the bill. We said we dont see republicans moving. We have to strategically visit shift our efforts and get the president to do what he has. Thats interesting. After House Republicans decided they werent going to move, they were a brick wall that wasnt worth pushing your heads on. We had thousands of deportations happening every day. Under president obama more than 2 Million People have been deported. That was the pain, that was the urgency of our community. We could not wait to be a political football between the two parties. We decided to focus on the president. And weve now gotten him to the point where hes going to make an announcement that will benefit families. It would be a bittersweet moment for us. Because there will be families that will now benefit from the program. There will only be a solution when congress can pass something. And if congress does pass something literally legislation that passes through both houses and gets to a president s desk to sign, i have a real feeling the reason that will happen is because of you guys. Youre one of the most effective direct action groups ive ever seen in my lifetime. 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Do you favor a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants . The answer, yes, 57 . How about if we achieve that goal the way president obama wants to. Do you favor a pathway that agrees that they pay a fine and submits to background check. Do you want that . Yes, with an exclamation point. 74 yes. We love that idea. We love what the president wants to do to reform immigration policy. Great. Now that the president is going to act on immigration policy, lets ask about that. Do you favor what the president is about to do . No. No. We love this policy. We hate this policy. How dare this president does what we want . Heres my other favorite. They asked people what the newly elected congress should do in washington. What do you want them to do . And this is the list of ranked policies. Policies ranked in terms of what people want the new congress to do. The top five most popular policies the American People want this congress to pursue are, number one, lowering the cost of student loans, also increase spending on infrastructure, raising the federal minimum wage, approving more money to fight ebola and limiting Carbon Emissions to fight climate change. Those are the five most popular policies on the whole list of things that congress should do. The top five are all things that the republicans who were just elect to lead the congress are adamantly opposed to. So as a nation, we just elected a congress that has pledged to fight tooth and nail against the policies that we most want to see enacted. Heres the best part. When asked are you happy with what you just did, are you happy with electing this new majority thats pledging to stand against everything you want, does that seem like a good thing . The answer is yes. Yes. Very happy with the result of the election. So americans want very specific things for the country. And were also delighted to elect the people who will stop the country from getting those things. Its almost like people dont really know whats going on in politics. Or they dont really know what decisions are being made and by whom in washington. Its almost like the public isnt that well informed about who wants what, whats going on with policy and politics that even on issues that they say they care about. Its almost like we dont know. In totally unrelated news, did you see that none of the broadcast networks are planning on carrying the president s speech tomorrow night, none of them. This thing that everybody has been freaking out about for the last two years, the biggest thing brewing in american politics for a mile, nbc wont carry the speech, cbs isnt carrying it, abc isnt carrying it. Well carry it starting at 7 45 tomorrow night. Ill be anchoring it with chris hayes and other folks. But if you didnt want to watch us and you wanted to watch on the really low numbers on your cable box, theyll be doing game shows and reality shows and stuff instead. No Network Coverage of the address tomorrow. And that does happen. I mean, networks do occasionally give a president the onefinger salute. Less than three weeks before the midterms in 1982, the rnc tried to buy a big block of time for president reagan to give a campaign speech. The Networks Said no to that. So then the Reagan White House said, okay, the president wont give a campaign speech. Instead hell give a nonpartisan address on the economy. Nbc and cbs went ahead and aired that but abc said no that year. They chose to run shows like entertainment tonight and pm magazine. That wasnt the only time that president reagan got blanked on tv. One of the thins that reagan said frustrated him was that he couldnt get the public to agree with his position on nicaragua. He really wanted to get involved in that civil war. He wanted to arm the rebels. Congress said no to that. Ultimately he ended up doing it secretly and illegally and got caught for it. He knew he was a great communicator. He believed he could move the country to his way of thinking on almost anything but on this issue of nicaragua no matter how much he talked about it the country hated the idea. Twice during his presidency the Reagan White House scheduled National Prime time tv addresses for the president to talk about how much he wanted to arm the contras in nicaragua, both times the networks all refused to air that reagan speech. In 1987, president reagan asked for time to give another prime time speech about his Disastrous Supreme Court nomination of robert bourque. The networks also said no to that speech. Under poppy bush for the first time, the networks stopped carrying all president ial prez conferences as a matter of course. In 199 2, when poppy bush was on his way to losing his reelection effort, the networks all said no for the First Time Ever to covering a president ial press conference because what he was going to do was basically hold a Campaign Event and they felt they had no obligation to defer to him on that. In that election, of course, bill clinton beat poppy bush to become president , but then once he was president , bill clinton paid the price for that precedent having been set that now sometimes networks wouldnt cover president ial press conferences and appearances. In 1993, and again in 195, president clinton wanted to do big, you know, saturation k06r7b8g televised president ial press conferences. One on his economic plan, one on the issue of welfare reform. Both times almost all the Networks Said no to carrying that. For our current president , as recently as april, the Networks Said no to a white house request for air time so president obama could talk about the success of signups for obamacare. Liberals lament that the success for obamacare, people la meant that go so much less coverage than the website and the glitches. When president obama wanted a big primetime platform to do a formal major address proclaiming the success of the new law, the networks all said no. And instead chose to air ncis and the voice and marvels agents of shield. Well, now tomorrow night again, the networks are saying that they have way more important things to do than show president obamas speech. Unlike some of those other times that i justice mentioned, president obama is going to go ahead and give the speech in prime time anyway. It wont be on the networks. But well see it here when he does it. Well be right back. I lost my sight in afghanistan, but it doesnt hold me back. 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Theres a small town in germany which played a role in nazi history that its still living down to this day, basically one of the top nazis who served hitler was once buried in this little town. Enough said about that. But because of that history, neonazis in germany like to gattner this town to march in honor of the dead nazi. And the town does not honor the dead nazi. The town is not neonazi. And the townspeople are sick of them showing up every year. This year they transformed the march which is supposed to support the cause into its opposite. As the neonazis marched through the town, they started to see weird signs like this one who said if the furor only knew. They didnt knew why. There were these messages that said thank you for raising 5,000 euros. And the nazis did not know it before they showed up for this march, but as they marched, i think it started to dawn on them at some point, at least the brighter among them, that they had inadvertently been tricked to participating in a walkathon. They are reaching money for something. The payoff came at the end when their march in honor of a dead nazi had actually been turned into a fundraiser for an antinazi group, for a group that exists to persuade neonazis to defect and escape from that life. Its a great prank and a very satisfying story and thats why it got worldwide coverage this week. But heres the thing. This isnt the first time this group that helps stop being nazis, its not the first time they have turned something pro nazi into its opposite. Three years ago, when i had roughly the same haircut and definitely the same jacket, we first reported on another cool version of this same idea. About 600 white supremacist skinheads turned up to nazi rockout to bands like radical and burning hate. The first 250 skinheads to show up to the racist concert got this free tshirt. It says in german, hardcore rebels, national and free. Is that ringing a bell . Free tshirt with a neonazi message handed out at a skinhead concert. The idea was you would take the tshirt home, wear it around and hopefully you nazi scumbag, you would eventually wash that tshirt and when you did wash that tshirt, the pro nazi design would wash off to reveal a completely different message. And also Contact Information for how to get out of the neonazi life. So this is what happens when you wash it. We actually got one of the shirts and it has been sitting around in our offices since 2011, just waiting for us to have an excuse for us to wash it and see if it works. Three years is a long time to have a potentially inflammatory neonazi propaganda sitting around for just anybody to find and deeply misunderstand. So today, we put our offensive tshirt on producer nick tutz, who is a very good sport and is in no way sympathetic to neonaziism. Then we had nick take off the shirt and throw it in the wash to see what would happen. For the record, we also do not ordinarily ask nick to do our laundry. But hes a very good sport. But it worked. The original message is gone. Now it says in german, what your shirt can do, you can do also. In other words, your shirt can change to stop being pro nazi, and so can you. It says below it in small print. Call this number basically to get help. Tells the shirt owner where to go if they want help getting away from their neonazi friends. Exit deutchland tells us since they started this tshirt campaign three years ago, they say the number of people who have contacted them to try to get out of the scene has tripled. And now this new march prank, the accidental walkathon, which has become an international hit, has brought them more money. Its all very smart. But you know what, its the fact that we finally washed the damn tshirt and it doesnt live on the desk skeeving everybody out anymore, thats the best new thing today. Our office has 100 less of what buffalo, new york, is used to snowstorm, but the people there are now shocked by the six feet of snow that is burying their area