Whoever placed these bombs, we will find and they will be brought to justice. Period. This is freedom, this is democracy. And were not going to allow them to take that from us. As we await the News Conference, we have a number of reports covering the newest angles on this story. That News Conference set to begin shortly. Pete williams is in washington on the investigation. Hallie jackson and Kristin Welker have reaction from the president ial candidates. What are we expected to hear at the briefing . Reporter were expecting to hear more details about those explosive devices. We did learn new information from the governor who about an hour ago he walked the scene and he said that both of the buildings on both sides of the explosion severe damage. He said based on the damage that he saw, he was surprised nobody was more severely injured. As you recall, 29 people injured. He says all of the people have been released from the hospital. He also tells us that both of the devices the one that went off as well as the one that did not detonate which was the Pressure Cooker, they were similar in design and will be processed. He also said as well, the explosive device that went off yesterday morning in seaside park, an hour and a half outside of the city, that will be sent to see if theres any link. There is no further threat here in new york city. But they are putting out 1,000 extra new York State Police officers as well as the national guard. They will be at airports, buses, subway stations. Lets listen in to a little bit more of what the governor had to say. As governor of new york, this is my Worst Nightmare. Right . My Worst Nightmare is the phone rings late at night and theres some terrorist attack, emergency, flood, hurricane, act of mother nature, that puts lives in peril. So this is the nightmare scenario. When you see the damage, i think we were fortunate that there were no fatalities. And when you see the site itself, it just confirms that. This was a significant amount of damage. Reporter something that could turn out to be a key piece of evidence, there is video of a man putting something in that trash dumpster before the explosion. They are trying to figure out if this man has any connection, who he is and what he was doing in the area before the explosion. Thank you so much. We await the News Conference coming our way any minute now. Lets go to nbc news justice correspondent Pete Williams in washington for us. A good day to you. What are your sources telling you about the investigation . Reporter the key thing here will be inspecting all these bomb parts. The device in new jersey didnt go off completely. Its largely intact. The device in new york on 27th street is completely intact. Then, of course, you have pieces from what was found on 23rd street in new york, the one that did go off. This is the intact one with the hole drilled in the top, some kind of timer. This sort of method of approach is very similar to what has been out there on the internet for the last six years on how to build a device in a Pressure Cooker. It was followed largely by the Boston Marathon bombers. Its not distinctive. What the fbi at quantico will look at as they compare all the explosive devices and the pieces from new york is, are there commonalities in the way the things were constructed in precisely how the holes were drilled, how the wires were connected, what kinds of timers, what kinds of cell phones were used, what was the explosive material inside them, do they have that in common . As opposed to the one in new jersey which was pipe bombs. Three pipe bombs wrapped together. One of which went off. It may not have gone off completely. Also following similar instructions that are on the internet. Thats one key thing that the investigators are following. We still arent 100 positive by the way, alex, because we have still conflicting information from the authorities whether the device in new york on the 23rd street location that did blow up with such tremendous force, whether it was actually played in the dumpster or near to it. If its in the dumpster, well, that suggests sort of similar approach to new jersey. The one in new jersey was in a plastic garbage can along the route. These are all questions that they are going to be looking at. Then, of course the additional factor that you have all this Surveillance Video from new york. So you can look at, for example, the video of somebody throwing something in the dumpster and then go around to surveillance cameras that are further away from the site. That person approached from somewhere. Did the cameras pick that person up from somewhere else . How far out can that be traced to give them more information about who that person was . Whether thats somebody dumping garbage into the dumpster or placed the bomb. Let me ask you this. We are looking at video at different points that we have gotten access to, this Surveillance Video. How much more is there out there that you believe police may have their hands on . How much more can they learn from that . Reporter well, i dont know how much more they have. Undoubt undoubtedly, its more than we are able to show. What we are showing is what the stores and businesses like this gym, for example, have given us directly. But they will go to all the surveillance cameras. There are so many of them in new york city. This was one of the important things in investigating Boston Marathon bombing. Its that piecing together of movements that will be important. They will work out in circles away from the scene on 23rd street and on 27th street, too. They will want to see who placed that, was that picked up by a camera. Can you look at nearby cameras and trace the movements of that person . As they approach the scene. Thats the advantage of the video, not just what you find at the scene itself, but can you now trace that persons movements using other cameras . Thats a big part of what theyre doing now. Okay. Pete williams in washington with the latest. Thank you so much for that. Let me bring inormer assistant special agent in charge of the Fbi Joint Terrorism Task force john berelli. A couple of things i want to go over. The governor came and said that he does not believe this was linked to International Terrorism. But its still very early on in this investigation. Can anything really be ruled out at this point . Would he be saying that because theres no someone taking responsibility or note or anything . I think the fact that there is no responsibility claimed yet is why people are saying this isnt an International Terrorism incident like isisinspired order al qaeda thing. I think its clear that this is an act of terrorism. By judicial statute, you have a weapon of mass destruction that was used, this bomb. So that falls into terrorism. What the inspiration, domestic, International Terrorism, whatever yet to be determined. The authorities are acting under the umbrella this is an act of terrorism. Here we are 16 hours later since the first incident. Where is the investigation at this stage . Multiple tracks. You have you have a lot of analysis of video being done. Can they get an image of a person or persons responsible for putting these devices in place . Then youve got the collected evidence, the unexplode and remnants of the exploded device that are at quantico. They will be looking for things like fingerprints, hair and fiber. They will look at the components. Was this sophisticated or amateur device . Is there data that can be exploited to say what cell towers . Did it start in new york . Did it come from new jersey . Theres a lot of information out there. Its going to take time to put it together. As of right now, theres a good amount of leads for investigators to follow. You mentioned new jersey. Thats something that happened in seaside park previously yesterday earlier in the day where an explosion went off. Fortunately, nobody was injured because it didnt go off when people would have been running by in this 5k run. Are there things about that that lead you instinctively to believe its connected or not connected . As of now we dont know all the facts. My gut tells me, probably not connected. The reason is, you have just such different devices. You had the pipe bombs that were wrapped together versus this Pressure Cooker. Generally when a person is a bomb maker, they usually have a signature. They figure out the way they like to construct a device and follow that same pattern every time. Investigators at the fbi have been following for years patterns of bomb makers. There are people that practice and get their fingers blown off. Now, its not to say that the incidents arent connected. But kind of instinctively, i would say, probably not at this point. Anything in terms of listening to networks, talking about chatter, possible attacks in the area . We have the president , he will be here. Its the u. N. General assembly. We have foreign dignitaries here in new york city. Theres a lot of things to consider right now. Of course, sl media investigators and the intelligence community, they will look at chatter or anybody online with a claim of responsibility. They will look, does somebody Say Something online that leads investigators to believe that they have more knowledge than whats been publically released . You have the u. N. Right now, all the delegations arriving. Was this just something to divert resources from the west side of manhattan to the east side where all the u. N. People are . Was it designed to look at the Police Response and then take notes and then the next one maybe be more lethal . Theres so many things to consider. Who knows right now . Im going to ask you to stay with me in the studio. We are awaiting this News Conference. This is going to be from mayor bill de blasio and the newly coronated, if you will, nypd commissioner, james oneill. Talk about one way to get started on the job. He took over friday when bill bratton resigned. Or retired, we should say. Anyway, we are going to stay on this and take a short break here and bring you back with the News Conference on the other side. Stay with us. Eyelove is making something unexpected. My eyelove is girls night out. My eyelove is the september issue. Eyelove is all the things we love to do with our eyes. But its also having a chat with your eye doctor about dry eyes that interrupt the things you love. Because if youre using artificial tears often and still have symptoms, it could be chronic dry eye. 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You are going to hear after i give some opening comments, you are going to hear from commissioner oneill in detail and then commissioner nygro and bill sweeney, assistance director of the fbi. I want to thank our federal partners who have been with us from the beginning of this incident. Were working very, very closely with the fbi to determine exactly what happened here. I was in the effected area this morning talking to residents, Governor Cuomo and i spoke to a number of people who live and work in that area. I want to say at the outset, i want to commend my fellow new yorkers who deal with challenges with incredible resiliency who are strong, who are focused on going about their everyday business, who are not intimidated by anything. Thats something were very proud of here in the city. I talked to a lot of people, including folks in their homes or businesses the moment the explosion occurred last night. They uniformly said, it worried them for sure. But they also said it was not going to change anything they were doing today. I saw people out there going about their business as usual. I also saw an extraordinary response by the nypd, fdny, office of emergency management. Folks said how reassured they were by the speedy response last night, by the continued Police Presence. They understand theres an Ongoing Investigation that will take some time. They understand there will be some disruption in the immediate community. But by and large, people are getting back to business as usual. We heard a good report on the mta. No damage there. That will be up and running soon at that subway stop. The attitude people took was one of gratitude for our First Responders and a sense that they were safe now with the kind of presence that was around them at this point. Now, this was a very serious incident. Its going to take a lot of careful investigation to get to the facts and get to the truth. One of the things were going to say to you today is were going to be very careful and patient to get to the full truth here. We are not going to jump to conclusions. Were not going to offer you easy answers. Were going to make sure we have all the facts. We know there was a bombing. That much we do know. We know it was a very serious incident. But we have a lot more work to do to be able to say what kind of motivation was behind this, was it a political motivation, personaltiva moon . What was it . We do not know that yet. That work must go on. Were going to give you regular updates as we get more information. In terms of those who are affected by this incident, 29 individuals were injured. All have been released from the hospital now. You will hear more from commissioner nygro about the response by the fdny and the status of those individuals. We obviously, our thoughts and prayers are with all of them for a full recovery. Im very pleased to say they are all out of the hospital. For all new yorkers, a central message we want to give today is, be vigilant. Be vigilant at this point in time. Not just because of this incident. Be vigilant because were going into u. N. General assembly week. Be vigilant because the police need your help. And if you see anything that might be pertinent to this case, we need you to call it in. And you should know, you will see a very substantial nypd presence this week. Bigger than ever. We would normally have an expanded presence for the United Nations general assembly. You will see a stronger presence now. New yorkers always tell me how reassured they are by seeing our officers, including our newer units such as the Critical Response command and the Strategic Response group, seeing them out in force and seeing them at the scene of obviously key public locations around the United Nations, around times square, a lot of other places, well armed, well trained. This new unit and the capacity that it has are crucial in keeping this city safe. You will see a lot of them this week. That capacity that we have built and commissioner oneill was a crucial part that was effort, the capacity we built over the last two years in response to events we have seen over the world, gives us the strongest antiterror capacity of any city. It will be fully in use this week. Now, we know from everything we have seen so far that this was an intentional act. I want to reaffirm what i said last night. Again, we do not know the motivation. We do not know the nature of it. Thats what we have to do more work on. The investigatory agencies continue to look to see if there is any specific connection to the incident in new jersey. At this point, we do not have any specific evidence of a connection. But that will continue to be considered. So were not taking any options off the table. I want to be very clear about that. All possible theories of whats happened here and how it connected will be looked at. We have no specific evidence at this point in time. Again, we are going to urge all new yorkers to be patient as we get down to the bottom of what happened here. We want to be accurate. I think the most important thing is to give people a clear and accurate picture of what happened and obviously to bring to justice whoever was involved in this incident much the ypd is using its full capacity to find anyone who was involved and bring them to justice. I want to affirm again, if you have any information that might link to this incident, video, photos, eyewitns accounts, overheard conversations, anything, please call the nypd. 1800577tips. 1800577tips. New yorkers as always are not intimidated. Its part of who we are. We will go about our business. We will help our police to do the jobs they do and they are the finest in the world. In spanish [ speaking in spanish ] with that, i turn back to commissioner oneill. Thank you, mr. Mayor. I will give you an update on last nights incident and whats going on right now. We have two separate crime scenes. Keep in mind, were in the middle of a very complex postblast investigation. There are a number of agencies involved. Of course, the nypd, fbi, atf and the state police. There are many agencies involved in this complex investigation. Were still gathering evidence at 23rd street and we did find some components indicative of an ied. We are we moved a device from 27th street up to rodmans neck last night. The bomb squad is in the process of working on that device right now. Of course, they are taking their time. They want to make sure that we use as much time as necessary to make that determination what that device is consists. We have recovered video from both screens. We are canvassing witnesses and video. We are looking to speak to anyone in the vicinity of either location last fight. We need people to call 1800577tips as the mayor said. We put that out last night. As new yorkers usually do, we received numerous phone calls. Each one of those phone calls is being vetted by our detectives. Right now, this is a parallel investigation with the nypd, the jttf and the fbi. Were always on alert and in new york city. And this is the device that went off intentionally. If this happened in another city, we would ramp up our security. I will ramp up our security more. Chief gomez will speak about that in a couple minutes. We talked about this over the last two years how refoiled 20 plots and new york city. That was done by a very professional, highly trained Law Enforcement agencies. This violent criminal act is going to be solved by those same people the same group of people. New york City Residents can rest assured that we will get to the bottom of this. Right now, were not discounting anything at this point. Again, were in the process of a complex investigation to determine who did this and why they did this. Carlos will talk about the counselor counsterterrorism overlay. We will do our best to protect them. We dont have enough information to make any final conclusion. As the mayor said, we dont know if theres any political or social motivation. We had a bombing last night on 23rd street and we had a suspicious device on 27th street. We will move this investigation forward and we finally make that determination, we will make sure we let everybody know. Right now, assistant director in charge from the fbi bill sweeney will make some comments. Bill . Thank you. Good afternoon. The fbi terrorist task force, made up of over 50 agencies is fully engaged. The investigation is in its early stages. Our thoughts are with the victims. We hope for quick recovery for all. The evidence we have collected is being taken to our lab for review. We are following every viable lead as we continue to work jointly with the nypd and the fdny and our local and state and federal partners. I expect evidence collection to continue for at least four to five more hours on the street itself. We have not yet made entry into the residences and buildings on the street. We are grateful for the assistance of the residents. The new york jttf is working with the newark, new jersey, jttf. If anyone has any information, we ask you to use our either the nypd tip line at 1800577tips or submit a tip our our website at www. Fbi. Gov. Its important we do not inadvertently disclose information that could inform the subjects. The public understands the need for that security and for that reason, i do not expect to answer specific questions on how much and what we know. Thank you. Thanks, bill. Commissioner will give you an update on those injured last night. Thank you. Last night was an extremely well coordinated response to that atta attack. Our members the Fire Department was able to identify, treat and transport 29 people quickly. Im happy to say that as of this morning, all 29 injured people have been released from the hospital. Thats very good news. The Fire Department along with the Building Department examined the buildings damaged in the explosion and found them to be structurally stable. There was no structural damage. Again, thats good news. You will hear a little from chief gomez about how the Police Department is prepared moving forward and the Fire Department is certainly as prepared. Chief leonard and i coordinating our people on the ground to support that effort. Thats the newest from the Fire Department. Thanks, commissioner. Chief gomez will give you an update on whats going on throughout the city right now. Good afternoon. Today there are several special events occurring throughout the city. In all five boroughs. We increased our Police Presence in each event. We added more officers. We added more counterterrorism officers as well as heavy weapons teams at some of these events. Teams from the Strategic Response group as well as the Critical Response command. Commuters in our Transit System will be greeted by more officers also. We will be doing enhanced bag checks throughout the city. Not just in the major hubs. Were picking random stations throughout the city. There will be more k9s in the Transit System. And we are coordinating with our partners as well as the port authority. Heavy weapons teams will be assigned through our transit hubs and certain stations. As for traffic, 23rd street and 27th street obviously remain closed. Were processing the crime scene. 6th avenue is closed from 14th up to 27th street. Avoid that area. We will try to clear it up as soon as we can. Thank you. Just before we take some questions, i just want to thank all the members of Law Enforcement that responded to the scene last night. I specifically want to thank the men and women from the new york city Police Department bomb squad who safely removed that device from 27th street and transported it up to rodmans neck and are working on determining what that actually consists of. I would like to thank the men and women of the bomb squad. Of course, we took a good look at that. We havent made a determination theres any significance to either location. Lisa . At least at this point, no individual or group has called to claim responsibility. Yes. New york city is always in a state of alert based on us being the number one target in the world. So thats why we ramped up the issue. Crc. We are always in a state of readiness. It means were trying to determine if theres a connection. At this point, we have not made that determination. There was a blast in seaside park, new jersey and one in new york city later on. We cant ignore that fact. We have to see if theres a connection. At this point, there doesnt appear to be one. Thats what the bomb squad is very carefully working on right now. We want to be able to take that apart to see. To see what exactly it consists of. Very quickly, i talked to a number of community residents, a number of folks who were in their homes last night when the blast occurred. A lot of folks who work in the area coming in this morning. I think the response i talked to a few dozen people. The response was very, very similar. Of course, it was unsettling when the blast occurred. But people didnt know what it was. So they continued going about their business until they knew more. Tremendous appreciation for the response by the First Responders. Since this morning, that they needed to go about their lives. They knew there was very, very strong Police Presence in the neighborhood. And several people said to me that they didnt doubt today that they would go about their lives and their business. One woman came in from queens to go to a church nearby. I said, did you think maybe you shouldnt go to church . She said, no. She said, for one thing god is with me. For another thing, as a new yorker, im, of course, going to keep going. Another guy in a starbucks we were in came down from Washington Heights to his job. I said, did you wonder whether your job would be open . No, i knew i should be go and i knew it would be open. Theres a sense of resiliency and a faith that the nypd is addressing the situation. We will look at everything. We will look at motivation, individuals, associations. We will look at social networks. We will look at tips and leads. Everything that comes in gets a look. We dont discard anything. We take everything into account and we move from there. On july 3, we had an explosion in central park. What happened last night and the suspicious package on 27th reet. You have found any commonality between any of those events or those devices specifically and any commonality between 23rd street in the suspicious package let me let the chief address that. He has the july 3rd investigation. Good afternoon. Right now, the central park issue from july doesnt appear to be related to this at all. Two different issues from what we can see. Were not prepared right now to say that the 23rd and 27th street we dont have anything. They have a jigsaw of evidence on the street right now. They will analyze that. We think they are related. We have to move in that direction. Right now, were not ready to make these calls yet. Bomb squad right now is up at the headquarters analyzing that. That could take a couple hours. We want to do so intelligently and move forward. Right now, thats evidence for us, could be crucial to our case. Theres no theres no connection to central park at all at this point. How you can say that theres no terrorism when the inspire magazine publishes instructions on how to build one of these Pressure Cooker bombs, the one used in the Boston Marathon . The job for all of us let by the jttf. We are listening to the judgment of our colleagues the fbi, is to analyze the facts, understand what motivation existed and why this was done and how this was done. Until we have that information, it is not fair for us to give the public a conclusion. Let Law Enforcement experts draw conclusions. Let the Law Enforcement experts draw the conclusions. This is the standard we use here. Its the right way to go. Thats all i have to say. How concerned are you let me address everything thats going on. Unger, we have been this is what we do. We do it very well. We have been doing this for years. We took a look at our coverage, our detail for the week. Were satisfied we are where we need to be. I am concerned. We did have a bomb that was detonated on 23rd street. We have no one apprehended. So of course im concerned. Working with our federal partners and atf, fbi, state police, nypd, i know were going to find out who did this and they will be brought to justice. Its not only what the police are doing. We put out a message last night that went to everybodys smartphone. Its about the public, too. We have talked about this every time im at the podium. If you see something out there that makes you feel uncomfortable, that looks unusual, you have to take that step to make sure somebody knows and we can respond and we can fully investigate it. Thats how were going to keep the city state. Its not just the Police Department. Its everybody that lives, works and visits new york city. How did you find the second device . We had two very dedicated former nypd state troopers who responded to the initial job last night. Any time we have a suspicious package, especially one thats detonated, we go a search for secondary. The state troopers took part in the search. They went down 27th street in a vehicle. They circled the block. They parked their vehicle and actually walked down the block. Thats how they found it. They did a great job. To finish to davids question, here is what we know. It was intentional. There was a violent act. It was certainly a criminal act. It was a bombing. Thats what we know. To understand there were any specific motivations, political motivations, any connection to an organization, thats what we dont know. I think its important to say what we know and what we dont know. It could have been something personally motivated. We dont know yet. We will keep the public informed every step of the way as we get actual, real evidence. If this was intentional thats what we dont know. Thats what we want to find out. We know it was organized. We know it was organized in the sense that some individual put it there. Originally, we had the question, could it be a gas leak, some other kind of accident . We were able to tell you it was intentional. I understand everyones desire to have as much detail as possible at this moment. Again, we are devoted, all of the agencies in new york city, with our federal partners, to getting you facts that are confirmed. When we have those confirmed facts, we will give them to you right away. As far as video recovered, i did view a video last night of the blast. We are canvassing for additional video to see who might have been walking down either street before the blast. So were in the process of doing that last night and the video i saw last night was one of the detonations, its the same thing that the cops from the 10th precinct saw. Im not going to give you specifics about that. Were still in the process of going through that crime scene. Were not done with that yet. Talk about the challenge here. Two states. Two explosions in places where people throw trash. One thing to see a bag. Its another thing i can speak about the new york city incident. There were dumpsters there. Dumpsters are a part of life in new york city. Theres major rehadbilitation t the building on 23rd street. Theres so much construction in new york city. There are dumpsters throughout the city. Was there a note found in the Pressure Cooker . Im not going to discuss what was found on 27th street. Were in the process of investigating that right now. We cant say with 100 degree of certainty where the blast originated. Are you investigating a manifesto posted on twitter claiming responsibility . We have the 1800577tips. Each one of those tips is being vetted. Every lead we get is going to be vetted. Specifically this posting i dont want to get into that specifically yet. This is an Ongoing Investigation. David, we are acknowledging that there was a bomb blast on 23rd street last night. We are in the process of investigating that. That and a device found on 27th street. During this course during the course of the investigation we are going to determine what the motivation is at some point. We will say it loud and clear. If it is an act of terrorism, we will say it. One other point. New yorkers are smart and practical. They will see a very substantial Police Presence, well armed, well trained, Critical Response groups, Strategic Response group. You will see a lot of Police Presence. You will see it in the subway, at major events, at crossroads of the city. Well armed Police Officers. People are smart enough to figure out to be vigilant and to call in anything they know. Again, we will give you the facts as we get the facts. How would you say it went . It came off on my phone. I have two cell phones. I got it when they asked people to stay away from the windows and get to the rear of the building. We had to evacuate in place on 27th street. When the containment vehicle left the scene, that was broadcast. I think it was very effective. It helped keep us safe. Would you use it again in the future . Were going to use whatever technology is available to keep the people of the city safe. Thank you. I wanted to follow up on the question of the surveillance tape. Did you see a person in the video that could possibly be identified . I saw the blast and i saw vehicles leaving the scene. I saw people running up the street. Were in the process of looking at that now. Hold on one second. Just to follow up on your question on surveillance tapes, the key is to get there before the blast and look at that. Thats what were doing this morning. Now you have to remember, a lot of the businesses are closed but their cameras are active. We cant get in there. We will spend the next couple of days seeing who was on both blocks prior to the explosions. The explosion is for the bomb squad. For our detectives and intelligence bureau, and the fbi, we want to see who was on the street. Thats where we are right now in our evidence you have to remember, its a warm saturday evening. Theres a lot of people on the street. Thank you very much. We will update as they come in. There you have it, everybody. We have taken a look at the new nypd commissioner james oneill just on the job since friday. Talk about hitting the ground running. Joined by mayor bill de blasio. I have dawn berelli, former assistant specific agent in charge of the jttf, joint Terrorism Task force with the fbi. Your takeaway from this . Consternation about the definition of terrorism and why that word has yet to be used. The key word here is motivation. What was the motivation . Was it because of International Terrorism . I heard theories about linked to the lgbt community. Motivation is the key. Lgbt its a gay community. Thats right. Nobody is really going to go out on a limb and say it was linked to these things. Legally, this can fall under the definition of terrorism. You have this Pressure Cooker bomb that was the Legal Definition of a weapon of mass destruction, which is a terrorism law. Its a federal law on the books. I think kind of in general, you could say that this is an act of terrorism. You cant say what the motivation is. Whats the social or political agenda behind it . Intentional, violent, criminal and bombing, that certainly is not up for debate. Those things are correct. With regard to the Police Presence thats going to be out and about here, i can say coming into work today, this on the eve of the u. N. Again assembly beginning, i came through a group of several hundred Police Officers all in uniform, clearly a staging area. It wasnt that far from specific hotels where a lot of our foreign dignitaries will stay and the u. N. Isnt all that far from here. How much should people expect to see and not see in the days ahead . You will see and not see a lot. During the United Nations, theres always command posts set up. You will see resources. You will see vans, specialized units, bomb dogs, robots, things like that. Its not just the nypd. Theres federal assets that are brought to bear during this week. If you add the bomb incident that took place last night, you are going to see even more resources. Certainly the feds are going to have more resources brought, the pd, they will have their counterterrorism units out to show that display of force. I think people that live in new york wont be surprised. A lot of whats not seen is all the video and some of the specialized equipment, the cameras and the like. There will be a lot of resources brought to bear on this. Beyond just whether or not the mayor is going to be comfortable using the word terrorism, what was it you took away from this . I know something that i took, the video, the fact that we have probably not seen the pd has probably not seen all that may be available to them. Obviously, they were very guarded. Im sure theres a lot more information and different investigative theories that are being run aground as we speak. Nobody in that press conference is going to go on and disclose any of that information, because it could jeopardize the investigation. Certainly, theres information out there online that they must be looking at. There may be even people that have claimed responsibility but that needs to be vetted. You certainly dont want other copycats to do that and then disrupt the flow of the investigation. Im looking at the time line. Its been about 12 hours since the secondary device was discovered on 27th street, two hours later, it was taken away for analysis. Putting that together, its been ten hours or so. Are you surprised that were not hearing anything definitive about whether that was a live bomb, that Pressure Cooker, whether it was empty . We dont know. We dont know. Im not surprised. Its in the grand scheme of an investigation with multiple crime scenes, with an actual explosion, with an unexploded device, its still very early on. Kind of the time line of these things. There may be some really good leads that the nypd and the fbi are exploring right now, but they dont want to go and give that too much information to the public at this point because it might jeopardize the investigation. We just dont know. Everybody wants answers, but were going to have to be patient. You mentioned the public. It seems to bear repeating that it really a lot of this can fall on the shoulders of the public, what they have seen, what they know. Even just a sense. Absolutely. We saw what crowd sourcing did for the Boston Marathon investigation. It would be great if they are able to recover some video and some photos. If, in fact, they dont have any good leads and get that information to the public, crowd source thing. Im sure thats a big component of what theyre doing now. The chief talked about some of these cameras and the chips and various wherever these images are stored may not be available yet because if they are proprietary, they belong to a store owner. We will see. What do you think the time frame is for accessing all of this video, getting the investigators to look through everything and figure out if they see something as that one assistant commissioner suggested, you have to look before the bombing. They will put a lot of resources on that. It will be, i would assume, within the next 12 to 24 hours they will have basically compiled every bit of digital evidence possible and try to put that together and if they can get somebody arriving and after and just like they did for boston and like they havecrimes. You cant walk five feet without being on somebodys camera. Its going to take time to figure out whats relevant and whats not. I would like to welcome to our conversation, jim cavanaugh. As you join me here, lets talk about your takeaway, the biggest thing you took away from the News Conference. Well, i think they are probably coming off we dont think its terrorism shortly and probably today. Lets look at facts here. Al qaedas inspire magazine, the First Edition, they had a preedition as well, the First Edition on page 40 specifically says, you make pipe bombs, you have three pipe bombs. They have a photograph. You externally wire the pipe bombs for affect. I can tell you in 40 years of bomb investigation basically i was a deputy of chief of explosives. I trained a bomb investigators. I knew virtually every bomb in the country. We ran the bomb systems. Bombs that are externally fused with electric wire, pipe bombs like that, happen sometimes. But they are unusual events. Tel unusually diffused bomb in s seaside park. The next paragraph in the magazine sayseffective way is with a Pressure Cooker. You have to look at this commanders have to look at this formula thats late out in inspire magazine. We have the bomb that targets the marine run. It sort of malfunctions. One device goes off. Probably blows the other two loose. The bomber does not achieve the goal. The bomber or more likely more than one. A couple maybe. Within 11 hours, we have these incidents in new york city. Thats only a twohour drive. On a saturday, its 80 miles from seaside park to chelsea. Its 80 miles for people who dont live in the area so they understand. On a saturday, theres not commuter traffic. You can get there pretty quick. This could be a related act. Its not true i can i can cite you chapter and verse in cases that i was involved in that bombers always make the same bomb. Thats not the case. Sometimes theres signatures that run through bombs. Thats true. I would be not surprised to see the same wire, tape in both of those cases, new york and seaside park. Wouldnt surprise me at all. Even the same tool marks. Bombers dont always make the same bomb. Have i have had them make four or five different bombs. Remotely detonated. Timer detonated. Gasoline, dynamite. You would say theyre not the same bomber and yet they were when we caught them. That doesnt always hold true. If people look at the Pressure Cooker and say thats a pipe bomb, thats the wrong analysis. The analysis here is this formula is on page 40 of inspire magazine. Right exactly down the road. Whoever did that bombing in seaside park i know that commity. Been there many typeimes. Theres 2200 people live there. Its a shore town. Those houses are expensive. Those bombers dont live there. The bombers dont live there. They went there. They went there to target the marine run. But for the run was delayed, we would have had a lot of people hurt. But for the bomb malfunctioned. Another thing i would add in my analysis we have a little more room to make an analysis, because we are not directing the case. I salute chief oneill and the fbi assistance director and the mayor. They are doing what i had to do for many years. You have to be more close cropped when you are the commander. When were an analyst for nbc, we can talk wider. Thats what the viewers want. They want to know, whats your experience tell you . Here are some bombs this bomb this second bomb at 27th street, if it turns out to be a real bomb we heard it both ways. If it turns out to be real, the bomb malfunctioned. If its a real bomb, the bomb malfunctioned. It malfunctioned because a person who is leaving a bomb in a crowded new york city street is not leaving a bomb for show. Its not leaving a bomb for you to find it. It malfunctioned. The bomb in new jersey also malfunctioned. You have some amateur if they are connected. Its possible. Im not saying they are definitely. Its possible. Malfunctions, attempts. You may have some inspired actors here. Reading inspire magazine, a couple of bombs that malfunctioned. They have a lot of desire. They have a lot of effort. I would not be surprised to see the explosive filler match in those cases. They are so close in proximity, in time. They are off the one page 40 of the magazine. When bombers fail, they keep going. They keep going. They progress. They want these are even if they are separate bombers, which is certainly possible, they failed both times. They failed to kill people in new jersey and in new york. Their goal is murder. They are failing. But they did have one explosion that was pretty darn powerful. They didnt kill anybody. By all accounts, all 29 people that were injured are out of the hospital. We dont have any report with lifethreatening conditions. Im sure they would be in the hospital were that to be the case. They did succeed with one. Well, i think you are right. They injured some people. But their goal is murder. Mass murder. They didnt achieve that. Thats the real goal. They probably failed there in the placement. When they put it into the trash bin, that acted as a total containment vessel like the bomb squad took away to robins neck. It acted like that. They thought it might enhance the blast. Because the explosive charge was not large enough, it mostly contained the fragmentation from whatever their bomb container was. Otherwise, we would have had pieces of the Pressure Cooker, if thats what it was, flung all over 23rd street and we would have more devastating injuries. It acted as a bomb containment vessel. Thats probably the failure of them when they put it in there. The bomb on 27th street was just a plastic bag and on the sidewalk. It would have been more devastating. I believe that probably malfunctioned if its real. Jim and don, cant thank you enough. I think jim you put it aptly that you are able to bring your expertise to our broadcast and let us know whats going on. Speculation and it helps get us through. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. We are approaching the top of the hour. 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