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I have a confession to make. For four years i have not known what to expect in the news tomorrow. Not for four years, rachel. This is why we have all aged like 30 years in the past four years. Everybody that i know in the News Business has developed a new physical ailment in the last four years. It is because the aging cycle accelerated to warp speed because of the stress and dislocation. It used to be it just happened to president s of the United States. We watched them age over the last four years. I think it has happened to more people in the last four years. Yeah. Everybody at the news emmys next year will be in a walker. Thanks, rachel. Thanks. If you were watching the house floor at 1 30 a. M. , as i was last night, then you saw lamb almost start a brawl on the house floor almost when he called a lie a lie. The lie that republican members were telling about the integrity of the vote count in pennsylvania, his state. The lie that conor lamb said provoked the invasion of the capitol. The pennsylvania congressman will join us at the end of the hour tonight. We will show you the dramatic video of conor lambs speech on the house floor and conor lamb will get tonights last word. Capitol Police Rushed House Speaker nancy pelosi to a secure location yesterday where she remained for several hours. Joining her in that secure location was the House Republican leader, kevin mccarthy, Senate Republican leader, Mitch Mcconnell and the Senate Democratic leader, soon to be majority leader, Chuck Schumer. It was in that secure location last evening when Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi began discussing impeaching the president of the United States, again. 13 days. The cuban missile crisis in 1962 lasted 13 days. 13 days of tension unlike the country has ever experienced with soviet missiles in cuba aimed at the United States of america from just 90 miles off of our coast. Every day of the 13 days our lives were in the hands of president john f. Kennedy who managed to convince the soviet union to remove the missiles from cuba. Nancy pelosi lived through the 13 days. Chuck schumer lived through the 13 days. They will never forget them. But they dont want to take the risk of living through another 13 days of donald trump. Today they went public with the results of the conversation they began yesterday. Yesterday the president of the United States incited an armed insurrection against america. The gleeful desecration of the u. S. Capitol which is the temple of our american democracy and the violence targeting congress are horrors that will forever stain our nations history. Instigated by the president of the United States. That is why it is such a stain. In calling for the seditious act the president has committed an unspeakable assault on our nation and on our people. I join the Senate Democratic leader in calling on the Vice President to remove this president by immediately invoking the 25th amendment. If the Vice President and cabinet do not act, the congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment. That is the overwhelming sentiment of my caucus. Impeach, defeated, impeach, gone. Its really a sad tragedy for your country. I say that i pray for the president every day and i do. Last night was the hardest day for me. This morning Chuck Schumer said this president shouldnt hold Office One Day longer. The quickest and the most effective way would be for the Vice President to immediately invoke the 25th amendment. If the Vice President and cabinet refuse to stand up congress should reconvene to impeach the president. Senator schumer said he and nancy pelosi tried to call mike pence to urge him to invoke the 25th amendment. Speaker pelosi and i tried to call the Vice President this morning to tell him to do this. They kept us on hold for 25 minutes and then said the Vice President would not come on the phone. So we are making the call public because he should do it and do it right away. If the Vice President and the cabinet refuse to stand up, congress should reconvene to impeach the president. Plain and simple. Today president elect joe biden said this. Yesterday, in my view, one of the darkest days in the history of the nation. Unprecedented assault on our democracy. An assault literally on the citadel of liberty and the United States capitol itself. An assault on the rule of law. An assault on the most sacred of american undertakings, ratifying the will of the people and choosing the leadership of their government. All of us here grieve the loss of life. Grieve, the desecration of the peoples house. But what we witnessed yesterday it was not dissent. Independent was not disorder. It was not protest. It was chaos. They were not protesters. Do not dare call them protesters. They were a riotous mob. Insurrectionists, domestic terrorists. It is that basic. Its that simple. Yesterday, while the invasion was in progress, donald trump made a twitter video lovingly asking the people who he had just urged to go to the capitol to now leave the capitol and go home. Donald trump said, we love you. You are very special. He is right about them being special. I have never seen a camp auswitz hoodie before. Those words work, brings freedom, are a rough translation of the german words that were across the top of the main gate that every imprisoned jew passed through on the way to their deaths. 6mwe means 6 million were not enough. You have to be very special to wear that on your shirt when you are invading the Capitol Building because that means you believe that 6 million jews exterminated in the nazi death camps were not enough. Adolf hitler believed that too. Hitler wanted to exterminate every jew living in europe. We lost 251,571 american soldiers fighting and winning world war ii, fighting hitler and nazism in a war that was officially declared and funded and supported by the people who worked in that building that the invaders desecrated yesterday. That is the where the declaration of war against Adolph Hitler passed on december 11th, 1941, and yesterday, yesterday, thanks to the people that donald trump sent to the capitol, yesterday hitler got a little bit of revenge on that building by having some people who fully support hitlers genocide invade the inner sanctums of the government that crushed hitler and the death camps. Vladimir putin had to be happy with this image of the American Government seemingly coming apart. An israeli newspaper said the russian campaigns goal was never to push out a coherent protrump message but instead to subvert americas Democratic Institutions and sow distrust. President donald trump was just a means to that. Vladimir putin cant help donald trump now. You could see how threatened and afraid donald trump feels today when he released a video finally conceding that there will be a new president sworn in on the 20th, but he couldnt bring himself to mention the name of that president. The video plays like a hostage video of donald trump forced to say what he thinks he has to say, now, tonight to try to hold on to his job for another 13 days. Now congress has certified the results. A new administration will be inaugurated on january 20th. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power. Leading off the discussion now is dave schmidt, a former republican strategist who has left that party and now is a msnbc political analyst and cofounder of the lincoln project. Steve, thank you very much for joining us tonight. This has been a 48 hours like nothing we have ever seen culminating as we just saw in what i guess is Donald Trumps concession speech, delivered exactly two months to the day after joe biden was projected and declared the winner by all the News Networks analyzing the president ial race. Donald trump didnt do this alone, lawrence. That is important to talk about this evening. There are four core elements that come together. Of course trump is the vile leader of the cult of personality who has disgraced his office and incited an attack on the capitol of the United States. For a period of hours the capitol of the United States fell to armed extremists, right wing extremists, antisemites, conspiracy nuts. These people related to the black shirts in italy, brown shirts in 1930s germany. These people are societys losers. They are on societys fringe. This is an army of the inciting. But every time you see an Autocratic Movement come to life, there are other elements that work to exploit and manipulate the mob in the name of power that are far more dangerous than all of those criminals and terrorists that stormed the capitol. You always look for the coalition between the elites. Josh hawley of Stanford University and Yale Law School who taught at oxford. A clerk to the chief justice of the United States. Harvard law school graduate, ted cruz. The cynicism. The sociopath. The ambition. The sickness in their souls to incite this. But you always will look for the elites in combination with these losers. Plus the propagandists, the liars. Rush limbaugh today. A dying man, talking about he was offended that there have been calls to end the violence. The fox lineup. The people who have lied in the service of donald trump, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of time in support of Donald Trumps 30,000 lies. The financers. How many corporations signed statements in support of black lives matter . And then also funded Mitch Mcconnell super pact and Kevin Mccarthys which funded the new jim crow. All of the efforts that were supported by the House Republicans were aimed at disenfranchising millions of black votes. And by the way, lets be clear about something. Had they been black lives matter protesters storming the capitol of the United States i think there may have been hundreds of people killed. At the end of the day the conduct of the Capitol Police is despicable. We see images of police opening the gates and taking selfies with the protesters. These are domestic enemies. This is what the word domestic enemy means in the constitution. This is the most despicable act that ever has been incited by any president. Now with 13 days left we have a diluted and deranged president who commands the worlds most potent Nuclear Arsenal and he should be removed from power immediately. This is why we have a 25th amendment, and the Vice President is duty bound to exercise his authority and power in the defense of the american republic, which remains even at this hour under continuous assault by the 45th president of the United States, donald trump. Just to clarify for the audience, using the 25th amendment to make mike pence the acting president requires the Vice President and a majority of the cabinet to execute. Steve schmidt, a 35yearold woman and air force veteran who should be home in san diego tonight, she was shot and killed in the Capitol Building yesterday. One shot fired by a police officer. She was there because she believed the lie that the election was stolen. She recorded herself on video with a lot of anger about this. Very angry about this. She believed an even bigger lie that donald trump told yesterday. That he was going to go down to the capitol with them. He said to the crowd he was going to go with them down there. And step into that line of fire. He wasnt there. Cowards never lead from the front. They incite from the rear. But he was there, lawrence. He was there in spirit. They were there in his name. It does not matter if cabinet secretaries are choosing to resign. White house staffers finding their principal with 13 days left and making arguments and releasing statements. These are more like criminals fleeing the bunker in advance of the russian army than principled men and women faithfully executing their duty to the constitution of the United States. This has been an immoral regime. We have seen the insanity stoked by 1 billion profit industry. This is what we get. This is the temple of democracy, this building, this capitol dome Abraham Lincoln insisted be completed so the government of the people by the people and for the people would have a place to reconsecrate itself. What a tragic moment. Joe biden said today that i wish we could say that we could not see it coming. Steve, i could see this coming for the four years of the trump presidency. Donald trump never once surprised me, not a minute of his life. Srn certainly has never surprised me since the first time he opened his mouth about his birthday certificate in 2011. Which i called a lie at that time. Last night, Republican House members were getting angry at conor lamb because he used the word lie about what they were saying. They were out there trying to pretend what they were doing was not lying, exactly what trump tries to do every day. The House Republican leader is a seditionist. I understand that many in the audience tonight will not approve of liz cheneys politics. And would never vote for her. But liz cheney denounced the coup. We have in the house a conservative leader. Congresswoman cheney and we have kevin mccarthy. A lot of companies in the country will have decisions to make about whether they want to support an Autocratic Movement that does violence to our institutions and led to the deaths of people on the basis of a lie. It is a lie. We should start calling it that. Whether the members are offended or not. We have a conspiracy theorist in the congress. We have people that openly parrot the misinformation of hostile powers. It is a tragic moment in the life of the nation. One of the things that i said five years ago as he was running, and my criticism of trump goes back to 2012 and 11 with those racist birther conspiracy nonsense. But the bottom line with this, i said five years ago i thought that there was a real lack of imagination in the American Mind for the practice of someone like trump to bring about profound catastrophe to the country with hundreds of thousands of people dead unnecessarily. We have this rancid fool who stoked a civil war. In this country who launched an Autocratic Movement. And we watched the wholesale poisons of american democracy. The faith and the belief in the legitimacy of the system that is required for a democratic republic to survive. The idea that one party must be willing to lose an election, and to try to assemble a coalition of the popular will of the people in the next election. That is how we make decisions. There are no other alternative forms of government available for us that protect the dignity of the human being and the freedom of the conscious of the human. The democratic tradition of the country is one of the great miracles in the world. The peaceful transition of power is the greatest thing that ever has been invented on americas shores. And a lot of great things have been invented in the country. What a tragic day. Steve schmidt, thank you very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Thank you lawrence. 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The Senate Minority leader and soon to be majority leader Chuck Schumer and House Speaker nancy pelosi attempted to reach the Vice President pence today to invoke the 25th amendment to remove the power of the presidency from donald trump and immediately make mike pence the acting president. Speaker pelosi and i tried to call the Vice President this morning to tell him to do this. They kept us on hold for 25 minutes, and then they said the Vice President wouldnt come on the phone. We are making the call public because he should do it and he should do it right away. Senator schumer and Speaker Pelosi are calling for the immediate removal of donald trump using the 25th amendment or they will impeach him again. If the president and the cabinet do not act, the congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment. That is the overwhelming sentiment of my caucus and the American People by the way. Joining us now is congressman maloney, a member of the house intelligence committee. Congressman maloney, thank you very much for joining us tonight and could you tell us where you were and what you went through when the invasion occurred yesterday . I was on the house floor. I was near the center aisle where the protesters were trying to break through. So i had a ring side seat. How long were you stuck in that position . Well, we were in the House Chamber until it became untenable. When they deployed teargas down the hall, they told us to get the gas masks under the seats and a lot of us were determined to stay in the chamber and not let the protesters, the rioters to take over the space. That became untenable and the Capitol Police officers and staff were remarkable. The staff, mostly piled up furniture by the doors giving us enough time to evacuate. They surrounded the chamber on three sides. Those images youre showing are the speakers lobby. That is the furniture piled up that you are seeing on the other side of the glass. That is what kept them out. Was the staff acting quickly. Those people are not paid to do that and they were acting heroically. Their actions allowed 80 members of congress and the staff to be evacuated out of the only exit that was Still Available in the Southeast Side of the chamber. That is what those people were being thwarted by and that is also by the way where that woman was shot trying to get through that entrance. The New York Times is reporting that Speaker Pelosi will have a Conference Call apparently you will all join tomorrow to discuss the next steps that could include impeachment. What are you expecting . What would you be advising on that call . Right, well, i can tell you i spoke to the speaker earlier tonight. A number of us have been speaking about it throughout the day. I think you will see robust and bipartisan support, not just impeachment but pursuing a 25th amendment removal strategy. That is important for several reasons. If i can make it harder on us, i think it is critically important that we box the president in for the remaining 13 days so that we can protect the American People and our constitution. It is critical they remove him on january 20th and it is equally important that he be held accountable after january 20th. We beat him on november 3rd. We need to box him right now. Replace him on the 20th and chase him thereafter with a new administration with state attorney general, local das to make sure he and his enablers are held accountable for what they have done. President elect biden introduced his Justice Department team today led by Merrick Garland. These are the people. Merrick garland is the person to have the decision to prosecute donald trump on federal charges or not. Do you have a position on what the way that you would like to see the Justice Department approach that . First of all, that is an outstanding choice. Most importantly because we need to restore the integrity and the independence of the Justice Department. The best way to handle it is to let Merrick Garland follow the facts and the law. The rest of us should keep plirks out of it. Joe biden will do that because he remembers what is great about the american justice system. When it isnt all messed up by a guy like donald trump. So i will not give Merrick Garland advise. But what i will tell you is that i expect there to be accountability. If the president or his family have broken the law or his enablers broke the law, they need to be held accountable. And by the way, every last one of those rioters who came in the capital who is on tape, on social media, they need to be identified. They need to be prosecuted. There were not enough arrests yesterday. This is not something you can just move away from. There needs to be accountability for what those people did. And the president and his enablers on the hill also need to be accountable. Last point. The republicans on the hill aiding and abetting and last night a majority of the House Republican caucus voted to set aside the Electoral College vote. That was last night, early in the morning we were still doing this. Even after that riot and that destruction they would have set aside the results of the Electoral College. Every republican in the house and senate needs to be held accountable. They need to be identified. You are either with the american constitutional system or you are with that mob. There is no middle ground right now. Congressman, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you, lawrence. After this break we have a breaking news report from the New York Times tonight about donald trump talking about pardoning himself. New reporting by the New York Times. Michael schmidt broke the story for the New York Times and will join us next. Flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. 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The times report says that President Trump suggested to aides he wants to pardon himself in the final days of his presidency. According to people close to him mr. Trump considered a range of preemptive pardons for his family for Jared Kushner and Close Associates like the president s personal lawyer rudolph giuliani. Mr. Trump has told advisors how much he likes having the powers to issue clemency and has for weeks solicited aides and allies for suggestions on whom to pardon. Yesterday the White House Council warned mr. Trump he could face legal exposure for the riot given that he had urged his supporters to march to the capitol and fight beforehand. According to people briefed on the discussion, the president appeared white house aides to be enjoying watching the scenes play out on television. Joining us now is Michael Schmidt, the White House Correspondent for the New York Times and Msnbc National Security contributor. Michael, the pardon talk, specifically about selfpardon, sounds like it is becoming increasingly urgent to donald trump. Yeah. Look, donald trump has a very good sense of legal problems. This is something he has had dating back many decades, and he knows he has a very unique power in the pardon power and that he and his family members could easily be potential targets for what has gone on in this administration after they leave. Some of the folks around him think that there is really no down side to it, to let a court some day decide whether to honor it. You are never able to go and get it back if you dont do it and donald trump used his power in highly unusual and extraordinary ways throughout his presidency and certainly a selfpardon would be that. The Justice Department does have a policy on the record, a one or two word sentence that says that the president cant do this. But the president is not bound by that. The president can do basically whatever he wants in this area. And a judge down the line would have to decide whether to honor it. There has been some question about whether donald trump might go for a more secure version of pardon, which is to have mike pence pardon him the way that Richard Nixon was. The president has to resign and mike pence has to become president. Then donald trump would be getting a pardoned issued by a president , and not himself. That would be on more solid legal ground. Is there any talk of that in the white house . I have not heard any talk of that. You would have to think of mike pence in this situation. We just saw mike pence unwilling to go along with the president s outlandish claims about the constitution and what the Vice President could do. I find it hard to believe well, i dont find anything hard to believe anymore. I think it might be a stretch to think pence would go to that length for the president. To simply become the president to pardon the president. The president expressed that he thinks, as you were saying before, that he can pardon himself. The president thinks president ial powers allow him to do extraordinary things. I dont think he would be deterred by that. Maybe his lawyers would say you would be better off to have mike pence do this. But i think that at this point donald trump probably wants to stay president as long as he can. Yeah. The challenge to the selfpardon would come only if donald trump was charged with a federal crime and Donald Trumps lawyers would walk into federal court in manhattan where he was an unindicted coconspirator in the Michael Cohen case, hold up the pardon and say judge, you have to dismiss the charges, hes been pardoned. That would send the pardon case on appeal that could take it to the United States Supreme Court where we would find out how this court feels about a selfpardon. And the trump allies say might as will do it and let the courts make a decision about it. The interesting that i found working on the story, i spent time talking to jack goldsmith, the professor at harvard law school. Hes sort of a pardon expert. What he said to me is if trump pardons himself, he is just kind of baiting the biden Justice Department ever more into having to investigate him. He said the biden Justice Department will not want it to stand that the president can pardon himself. It really, truly does say that the president is above the law. There is a Justice Department policy that says you cant charge a president in office and if a president can pardon himself, there is no way to hold the president accountable. The Justice Department under President Biden would want to try and knock that out. The only way to knock it out is to investigate the president , prosecute the president and take him to court. And if the president pardons himself, that is a potential possibility. Yeah. I was quite struck by the quote in your piece by professor goldsmith where he said the selfpardon would make it more likely the biden team prosecutes trump. I wonder if donald trump is circling that quote in your report. Michael schmidt, thank you very much for joining us tonight. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Thank you. The truth hurts. That is what conor lamb said to republicans on the house floor last night who almost got into a brawl because of what conor lamb said about them in his speech at 1 30 a. M. We will show you the video of that speech and congressman conor lamb will join us for tonights last word. Needles. Essential for sewing, but maybe not for people with certain inflammatory conditions. Because there are options. Like an unjection™. Xeljanz. The first and only pill of its kind that treats moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, or moderate to Severe Ulcerative Colitis when other medicines have not helped enough. 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Congressman lamb did not deliver the speech he had planned to deliver before the capitol was invaded. I wanted to layout all the evidence, madam speaker. I thought it was a sign of respect for my colleagues and for all of the americans out there who dont know who to trust. I was raised on that. I was raised on that respect. Which makes this a hard speech for me to give. Because to do this with any kind of honesty means admitting and declaring in this house that these objections do not deserve an ounce of respect. Not an ounce. A woman died out there tonight and you are making these objections. Enough has been done here today already to try to strip the congress of the dignity and the objectors dont need to do anymore. We know the attack did not materialize out of nowhere. It was inspired by lies, the same you are hearing in this room tonight, and the members who are repeating those lies should be ashamed of themselves. As tradition has it in the house of representatives, you are not supposed to call a lie a lie if a house member says it. So conor lamb proceeded with his speech as he proceeded a Republican House member from virginia rose and asked to have conor lambs words taken down meaning removed. Speaker nancy pelosi overruled the request saying you said that about me every single day. Just hold your tongue. And at that point it appeared a physical confrontation was developing between democrats and republicans on the floor. But Speaker Pelosi somehow kept control of the house. One last thing to say, madam speaker, and i thank you for your patience. All people need to know tonight, madam speaker there will be order in the house. There will be order in the house. There will be order in the house. The gentleman the clear the chamber. The gentleman will clear the chamber. Gentleman will proceed. Thank you, madam speaker. 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Hes a former marine and former federal prosecutor. Congressman lamb, thank you very much for joining us last night. I was watching on cspan so as not to miss anything on the floor. When you came on, what happened . The cspan camera doesnt show us what happens when all those members start moving across the room, moving toward each other. Were republicans coming at you . Were they going at someone else . What was going on . I dont know what their intentions were, but when they crossed the center aisle, they ran right into a man named Collin Allred who used to play linebacker for the Tennessee Titans and is good friend and good man, and they didnt move any further past him, so i think they changed their mind real fast when i saw who was in their path. I noticed a congressman behind you. Others, they sort of got up and they sort of ran. They move faster than you see people move in that chamber in the direction of where the republicans seemed to be going. And this was all because of you using the word lie and saying what they were doing was lying. Yeah, i would say it was all because of their own actions and how thinskinned they turned out to be. I dont think theres anything they could say about me that would cause me to run over to their side of the room like that. But, you know, that was what they chose to do and how they chose to react, and they were trying to hide from the truth, you know . That as you probably saw if you watched my speech, that was a difficult thing for me to say and a hard speech to give because i actually do respect a lot of those men and i think there are good men on the other side of the aisle. But last night was a night where it was obvious that they were blinding themselves to the reality of the situation that we were in and what the story they were telling had done. I mean, that story regardless of who invented it, propagated it the most, whos most to blame, anyone telling that story last night was contributing to the violence that happened there yesterday. Its just how it was and had to be said. You had hours to think about what you were going to say. You had a speech planned that was going to be all about the details of the pennsylvania vote, details that have been lied about nonstop by donald trump and others. When you have the time to think about this and you got up there, how did that invasion of the house and what you experienced during the day, the danger to your colleagues and yourself, how did that affect what you had to say when you stood up . I think it meant that, you know, i had to i had to try to address the feelings that we were all having about to me about the way the institution was just completely desecrated by those people yesterday. I mean, that was the feeling i had. A lot of the younger members of congress who were there, we ran for office in the trump era. We knew this wasnt going to be pleasant. We knew congress was not a popular institution and was probably at an alltime low, but we believed enough in it to try to rebuild it. After what we saw yesterday, i wanted to communicate to people exactly how low the whole thing had sunk and exactly how dedicated we were to coming back stronger than ever in rebuilding congress and making it work. And to do that, i just thought it required honesty about what was going on, and those men needed to hear it. And you notice they reacted very differently to my speech than others that said similar things to them because im not someone that would normally say that to them. I avoid trying to call anyone a liar in this business because my own constituents have told me when two politicians start calling each other liars, they assume everybodys lying. But last night was a moment of truth i mean, our capitol was invaded. It was a moment not for democrats and republicans but for americans to defend the very place that we were. You said the truth hurts. I imagine the experience of that day hurt also. Look, i think it hurt a lot of people. Anybody watching at home, i mean people revere this nations capitol. They still believe in our form of government. They really do. It doesnt matter who they voted for in november, we just had a Record Number of people vote. You know, 155 million in the middle of a pandemic. So i really dont think, you know, you have to be very partisan to look at yesterday and be insulted the way we would be if wed been invaded by a foreign power. I mean, there were essential foreign flags, trump flags being posted and hung from some of the most sacred square inches of ground in the United States. Hu of the most sacred square inches of the ground in the United States. And the way it felt to me and the way it felt to a lot of us was that we had to stand up for what that place was about, and we had to deliver that message loud and clear so that our the people we represent know weve got their back, were protecting this institution. Were not going to give up. And no matter how passionate you think those people are, we are more passionate, and we will be going forward. Congressman conor lamb, thank you very much for your words in the middle of the night last night and for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Thank you. That is tonights last word. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. Well, good evening once again. Day 1,449 of the trump