Flag at gunpoint. The man has been identified. A selfdescribed cleric, an activist with a criminal background. He chose to cloak his actions with the symbol of isis. At this point in time we have five who have managed to escape. Just after 5 00 this morning there were reports of gunfire. And weve just seen another hostage brought out. There would have been many more lives lost. Three, including the gunman are dead and four others are injured. It is a very sadhearted city this morning. People are distraught by whats happened. We will get through this. Three people dead in sydney, australia today after a 16hour standoff. The man ha ron moanis is dead. This is Prime Minister tony abbott earlier today. The perpetrator was wellknown to state and commonwealth authorities. He had a long history of violent crime. Infatuation with extremism and mental instability. We know that he sent offensive letters to the families of australian soldiers, killed in afghanistan and was found guilty of offenses related to this. We also know he posted grafk material online. As the siege unfolded yesterday, he sought to cloak his actions with the symbolism of the isil death cult. Tragically, there are people in our Community Ready to engage in politically motivated violence. The cafe where the attacks occurred is just yards from the newsroom of nbcs australian partner, channel 7. And blocks from the New South Wales parliament house. It is the first time australia has experienced a terrorrelated attack on its own soil. Australia has committed 600 military personnel and war planes to iraq and is supporting the fight against the Islamic State. During the standoff, mr. Monis forced hostages to hold up a black flag which says, there is no god but allah. Mohammed is the messenger of god. This summer they raised their Terror Threat to high. Laif, it seems its somewhat surprising that they havent had this kind of problem before. Well, in a way, it is, however, if we really look at the, you know, in the grand scheme of things, this new campaign, this new war on Terror Campaign is specifically targeting the Islamic State and maybe a number of other faxes. Since the Islamic State has really globalized its ideology it actually got a lot of acceptance from around the world. So we are only seeing, these are just the first signs of, you know, more terror attacks may actually take place in australia. The Islamic State specifically preached muslims around the world to conduct attacks. So i think this is a semidirect response to what the Islamic State has kacalled before and w may see more in the future. The first thing i read was the intel brief that you send out every day. The first one, global terrorism has continued to increase despite 13 years of the u. S. Led war and terror. 13 years and its increasing. Yeah. Its kind of depressing and stunning to think about. Weve had such great tactical success. Weve prevented another 9 11. But weve had a lot of, 15 years of many 9 11s across the world. When you look at it from any metric, the war on terror or the current, you know, war against terror, you can call it Something Else now, has failed. Its fair to say that it has failed. Tactically weve had great success, and im not diminishing that, but strategically were losing the war. And as you pointed out this morning, the major groups, the biggest groups that exist now did not exist before 9 11 or did not exist when we went into afghanistan to snuff out al qaeda. Boko haram, the Islamic State accounts for 66 of the terrorist attacks in 2013 . Yeah. Absolutely. We have to remember that the progenitor of isis was a group led by sakau we. So it emerged northly after 9 11 almost as a direct result of our invasion of iraq. We look at a group like isis that got opportunities, seeszing lots of territory, putting millions of people under its control. I think it gave did a lot of power and a lot of might and that just strengthened its ideology just that much. So people adopting that ideology, taking it to practice right away and proliferating that ideology around the world. We see it around the world in syria and iraq and nigeria. It accounts for 50 of deaths in 2013 and 2014. Another accounting of where we stand now is that five countries accounted for 80 of terrorist attacks. Iraq, syria, pakistan, afghanistan and nigeria. It would seem theres a way that the United States gets to feel a little better, because we have kind of segregated terrorism off into other locations. Its happening over there where we dont have to be afraid of it. Our soldiers do, because were still sending them there. Is there something you could describe as success in the way that terror has been concentrated in those areas, away from the United States . Yes, if were looking at an american war on terror inside of america you could say that weve succeeded. From the protection of the homeland standpoint. If you look at a very shortterm casualty list. But basically, those five countries are suffering tremendously. There are a lot of reasons why. But those five countries account for, as you said, 80 , which is amazing. When we think about a global war on terror, its really located in five places plus some other places. And we can feel good that our homeland hasnt been attacked, but if were serious about a global war on terror, there are people that are suffering incredible. Laith, how would you label this as it goes into iraq, if we could rewrite some of the history, what are the pieces we could rewrite to have minimized that growth . We have failed, i would say, at present being a solid comprehensive, counter Radicalization Campaign or a counter narrative that would counter such extremist ideology. And it has gotten so bad that at this point we find ourselves helpless. If we would start right now to put that counter narrative outside and put it on the same platforms that groups like isis and al qaeda use how do you do that . Well, first of all, it requires people who know the cultural and ling which is particular underpinnings of this, somebody who knows how to counter the radical interpretation they use. So you go online and in other forums and you get in these Bumper Sticker arguments, cable news arguments, pardon the expression, where youre basically your slogan versus my slogan . Is that what you do . I think we have a lack of message. We are countering a message with nothing else. So but i dont know if social media is the right platform. I have an unorthodox opinion to countering social media extremism, i think the way to counter it the best is anything other than social media. Because teenagers, the target audience, disaffected youth, theyre not paying attention to the governments messages. Now you can empower credible voices, theres a way to do that. But for the most part theyre not going to listen to what you say. Because being good isnt cool. You need to get them away from the computer screen, create ra engagement, which were very bad at doing. At least address it. What about the rise of the great leader, the great speaker, the great the person who stands up there and says follow me against the ideology . This is very interesting. A lot of socalled prominent individuals like in syria and iraq, many of them have been targeted by isis and other groups specifically for speaking out against it. I think that kind of precedent not to speak up in fear for their lives and families. We need to create a grassroots campaign. Again, its grassroots. No Actual Authority has to create it. It has to come from the societies most affected by the terrorism, whether by isis, or al qaeda or other extremists. If we dont present a narrative nobody will. Those who are affected need to go out and present the counter narrative. So just to go back to the point we opened up with, after 13 years on the war on terror, the world of terror has, is actually on the increase. Yes. Over 18,000 people died last year in terrorism, which is a 61 increase from 2012. And so its going to be worse in 2014. Thank you both very much for joining me tonight. Thanks, lawrence. Coming up, Camille Cosby, bill cosbys wife, issues a statement about her husband. And thousands of dem straighters take to the streets in protest across the weekend. In tonights spotlight, how to avoid those grand jury outcomes. Something england has done about this that the United States should probably consider doing. Its coming up. 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Many in the media are quick to link that story to stories about my husband until that story unwound. None of us will ever want to be in a position of attacking a victim, but the question should be asked who is the victim . Mrs. Cosby doesnt answer any questions, but asks that question about who is the victim. Its a curious question to ask, and its not a reaction that shouldnt be expected from a spouse. What i did really find troubling here is her dismissal of the Rolling Stone story. It was not my understanding that we decided that the story was untrue, just because there may be some factual errors there. I think that makes what shes attempting to say even more problematic and more troubling than it is on its face. Mark, shes saying the bill cosby you thought you knew is the real bill cosby. That is who he is. Now it seems to mow that the statement leaves open the possibility that there is another bill cosby, that there is a bill cosby she didnt see, and that seems to me to be a kind of reality that can exist out there in relationships, particularly in marriages where the guy is a certain way as a husband and father and at home and as a provider and all that, but has some secrets, and that is, that is not a person who a wife would know in this situation. Yes. I would agree with that. But i think the timing of her statement is significant. We had, bill cosbys an icon, no question about it. We had another icon come out last week in the person of Beverly Johnson to make her statement. And then in her statement, in her story, vanity fair, she names Camille Cosby in accounts, calling her the night after she was allegedly drugged. So i think that Camille Cosby coming out in defense of her husband, i wouldnt doubt is in somewhat relation to that, because she was mentioned in that article, but where it falls short, where its flawed is that Beverly Johnson recalls a specific account where she called Camille Cosby, and i think is going to be necessary for her to respond to that. Did she take a call from Beverly Johnson, did that in fact happen . Lets listen to what Beverly Johnson said on the view today. One of the reasons i decided to come out was that i saw all these very courageous women on the television telling their story, which is very, very eerily similar to mine. This is not about mr. Cosby. Hes just a lightning rod. For conversation about violence against women. By men in power. Yes. And so this is really what this is about. And its just indicative that i was the one who wasnt raped, i dont think, but who had this experience that a lot of the other women have had. And that, you know, im coming forward just to tell the truth. Jamilah, the point she said thayer whe there where she said its not about mr. Cosby, well, it is, and if you want to have a conversation, its available out of this, but the details of these cosby stories are so unusual, this drugging, its not something that you, you say oh, well theres a big epidemic of that particular behavior going on. Its very peculiar, so it does focus the concentration on bill cosby himself. And one thing that it raises, and i think that his wifes statement raises is can we, should we, when should we, when can we separate the work, the honorable work someone has done, positive contributions someone has made from dark secrets, dark accusations like this. You know, i think that in terms of separating someones work from the, you know, terrible things that they may have been accused of, that really becomes an individual decision. There are people who will continue to engage with mr. Cosbys work as if Nothing Happened even if they believe hes guilty of these terrible accusations and there will be those who find themselves unable to watch the cosby show or cosby specials. He has a very measurable body of work, and his contributions to society through the cosby show and a different world cant be taken away from him. However, this tarnishes a legacy. Theres no one that can survive these type of accusations and be the person they once were in anyones eyes even if there are doubts around some of the accusers or the facts of what may or may not have happened. Its hard to get two people together for brunch in new york city that two dozen women have come forward and given very similar accounts. And for us to not be able to see any real measure of gain or profit that most of them could get from coming forward at this point, its troubling. Its troubling to say the least. Mark, if you had one of these cases, if it was possible to have one of these cases go to a trial somehow, its conceivable that a juror could find bill cosby guilty and then still think he made very positive contributions, did really important work, worked hard at trying to do the right thing professionally within his show, within the images and the messages he was trying to convey in the cosby show. Woody allen, roman pa landski, of course, that happens. I think one of the problems that bill cosby has, and i commend Beverly Johnson, because she called the names of black men that, and i just called the names of Trayvon Martin and mike brown, she didnt want to be accused of coming against another africanamerican man. But the fact of the matter is, a lot of us began to fall out of love with bill cosby when he gave the pound cake speech. And he made a lot of disparaging remarks about black men. Some of those comments used today to justify what the police are doing to the young men in our communities. So bill has a lot to account for. I dont think he helps himself by remaining silent, of course, shows like a different world he wasnt even on shouldnt suffer. That contribution was there, but i dont think we can just see race, like the latest news weve been hearing. Thank you both for joining me tonight. Coming up, why england shall the place where the grand jury was invented, will never have the problems that weve had with grand juries in this country. My names louis, and i quit smoking with chantix. I had tried to do it in the past. I hadnt been successful. Quitting smoking this time was different because i got a prescription for chantix. Along with support, Chantix Varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. The fact that it reduced the urge to smoke helped me get that confidence that i could do it. 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On friday night hundreds of protesters blocked the area just outside of Harvard University. All the schools of Harvard University joined in that protest. Another 25,000 marched right here in new york city, the largest crowds since the grand jurys decision not to indict anyone in the killing of eric garner. And earlier today, protesters in oakland, california blocked traffic and chained themselves to the doors of police headquarters. At least 13 of those protesters were arrested today according to the associated press. These coasttocoast protests stem from the grand juries working in secret who chose to bring no charges against police killers of unarmed black men. Todays grand juries can trace their roots back centuries. British writer explains the grand jury of 23 men was drawn from the local neighborhood and was expected to survey and report criminal behavior in the neighborhood. By the 16th century it became a body that listened to the prosecution evidence and decided whether a case had been made up. England ended its grand jury system in the 1930s. Former british colonies like australia, new zealand and canada have followed suit. My next guest says the United States should get rid of grand juries too. Our system is founded on transparency and this undermines our trust in the courts. Joining me is the first black woman to sit on the superior court in northern california. She is currently the independent Police Auditor for the city of san jose. I was struck by your piece. Over the last couple weeks, ive been sitting here wondering why we still have grand juries and not really able to answer it. I grew up in a world where grand jury proceedings were secret, and growing up in boston they used the old british system with 23 members of a grand jury. And it was kind of like the catholic mass, the latin mass or something, it was something that we always had and no one questioned it. Why are we still running see yet grand juries . What is the case for running secret grand juries . Well, lawrence, i cant actually give you the case for secret grand juries. It turns out today grand juries are not so grand. I can find no good reason to have these secret proceedings to determine whether or not theres probable cause that a person should stand trial for a felony offense. Theres just no basis and no reason to have it in our democratic system and especially in a criminal justice system. The reason you see thousands of people out on the street is because these individuals have lost their trust in the criminal justice system. How can you trust a system that is secret, where people have no idea how decisions are being made, so ha happens is the whole basis of the system becomes undermined because of the lack of transparency. We need to get rid of criminal grand juries in this country once and for all. Is there some, i started to wonder, maybe there is some reason, a case to be made for certain kinds of grand juries, but certainly not for most of the way theyre used. I mean, for example im thinking about in washington over the years at different times there have been grand juries where theyve investigated possible political figures involved with misconduct, and if they found nothing it would have been very harmful for that to come out publicly about those people, and also the grand jury had subpoena power, so they could actually subpoena someone in to talk in an investigation who might not otherwise voluntarily talk to police. Well, lawrence, it just turns out that grand juries are really convened in highprofile cases. Now i will give you one argument where people support them. And that is people, prosecutors want to bring cases against gang members and witnesses are afraid to testify because of retaliation. So they convene the grand juries. Well, half the states in this country do not have grand juries, and i cannot believe that half the states in this country dont have gang problems. So somehow theyve figured out a way to prosecute gang members without having criminal grand juries. So if you look at when theyre actually used, theyre used in highprofile cases where it is known to the world who the accused are. Back in the day, when they had grand juries, the secrecy was to protect the reputations of those accused, because they might not then be indicted. Thats not the case today. We are not using grand juries the way they were planned to be use, and theres just no good use for them today at all. And judge, quickly, before we go, that thing about protecting witnesses who might testify against gang members, what i never got about that part of it is, if you get the indictment against the gang member, then were going to have to have a trial. Thats going to be public. And the witness is going to be sitting there on the witness stand with the gang member sitting in the courtroom. Thats it exactly. Even we have preliminary investigations which is the alternative to the grand jury system where you have the proceedings open to the public. Even there, there are ways you can protect witnesses. You can have their faces covered and yet have the testimony, the preliminary examination can be closed. There are all kinds of things that are done today, which really lets you know the grand juries are useless, theyre of no use today in the system. So much so that half of the states do not have any grand jury system at all. Yes, and the other half needs to get rid of them too. 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The documents and emails stolen from sony are of no value to the public or the media other than gossip value. And without gossip, there would be no New York Post. The New York Post publishes tabloid style both to save money and to suggest a reading experience similar to the thrills of reading the national inquirer. They have been struggling with how to handle the stolen information. Last week, variety, ran an article entitled why publishing stolen sony data is problematic but necessary. The writer does everything he should do. He uses the word stolen, uses hypotheticals that clarify what were dealing with. For example he wrote what if north korea bombed culver city, can i sift through the rubble for sony executives hard drives . And he points out all data is not created equal. Some information rises to the level of truly newsworthy while others do not. He presents arguments for publishing the information and arrangements against. And he conveys strong sympathies for each of those arguments, and he ends with this. Journalism is in some sense permissible thievery. We occasionally catch wind of what our subjects would rather us not know, and we dont hesitate to report it if it contributes to an understanding of what were writing about. But the way it came to light in this instance makes me wish it never happened. Every reporter has fantasized about stumbling onto a treasure trove of secret documents so when sony is spread in front of us, its instintive for us to pounce, but this time acting on that reflex just doesnt feel right, even though it isnt wrong. If the thieves who stole the sony material are to be believed, they robbed sony because of this. I am agent lacy with central intelligence. You two are going to be in a room alone with kim, and the cia would love it if you could take him out. Hmm . . Take him out. For coffee . For dinner . For kimchi . Take him out. You want us to kill the leader of north korea . Gentlemen. They offered to keep ti it secret if they would withdraw the movie. They were threatened with not only you but your family will be in danger, end quote. Now you are can scour the news media for stories about the brave studio executives choosing to support freedom of speech instead of cowering in front of a dictator, but you wont find those stories. Instead, youll find quotes from their emails. There will never be an article or a morevie, for that matter about brave screenwriter executives, and they would be the first ones to laugh you out of the room if you pitched a movie about brave studio executives. But ask yourselves what you would have done if people who broke into your company and stole everything out of your files and then started making it public, and then started threatening you and your family and the families of everyone who worked at your company, and all they wanted you to do was suppress one little thing that your company was doing, suppress a movie that didnt cost a whole lot to makes and probably wasnt going to turn a profit anyway. It wouldnt be the first movie a studio made and didnt release. The blackmailing thieves who robbed from sony were not asking for the impossible. They were just asking a movie studio not to release a movie, something theyve all done, while issuing the single most dangerous threat any studio or any studio ebstive has ever received from anyone. What would you expect movie studio executives to do in that scenario . They always make the spineless choice, right . Well, not this time. Now i dont claim to be able to draw that line, draw the line tonight that shows you exactly what kind of stolen material should be used by reporters and what kind of stolen material should not be used by reporters. Yes, the pentagon papers, everyone agrees, the pentagon paper were stolen material and everyone agrees they were stolen from the government, a government of the people and by the people, and so the pentagon papers belonged to the people and the pentagon papers told the most important government story of that era, how the United States government made the horrific mistake of escalating the unwinnable vietnam war and losing 58,000 american lives in the process, the New York Times did the right thing publishing the pentagon papers in 1971, and it was a brave thing for the New York Times and the Washington Post to do at that time. The New York Times at any time so clear about how to handle the stolen sony documents. This morning, the editor of the New York Times issued a statement in response to a letter that the times and other outlets have received today from sonys lawyer warning them against using stolen material of the editors statement appeared on the times website under the headline, hacked sony documents are not pentagon papers, editors view. It is hard to determine how to handle these materials. We have used documents surfaced by others. It would be a disservice to our reeders to pretend these documents werent revealing. But the thing we consider is how newsworthy these documents are. In that regard, i would say these are not the pentagon papers, and these are are not wi wikileaks. But he didnt say how newsworthy the documents are. He just said thats what they have to consider in considering if these are helpful documents that they should be publishing. Now i would suggest that the style editor at the New York Times could help here. By simply changing the word hacked, to the word stolen, ever where it appears in the sony stories. For example, change hacked to stolen. Hacked still has that air of juvenile, high school fun, kids having fun at their computers on a whim. And lets not have the editor of the New York Times ever again, ever, ever use the phrase surfaced by others, as in we have used documents surfaced by others. Seriously . Surfaced . Just say the New York Times has used documents stolen by others. Dont try to soften your moral dilemma by softening the language of whats involved. Nothing surfaced here. The stuff was stolen. Many americans who have prescriptions fail to stay on them. Thats why we created programs which encourage people to take their medications regularly. So join us as we raise a glass to everyone who remembered today. Bottoms up, america. See you tomorrow. Same time. Another innovation from cvs health. Because health is everything. 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I went there to receive a contribution from a cub scout pack affiliated with the church who spent the year raising money for the kind fund, kids in need of desks. I had no idea how much the cub scout pack had raised and i really didnt care. I always jump at an opportunity to meet with kids anywhere to help kids wanting to get an education. It turned out the cub scout pack had raised the largest amount any organization has ever contributed to the kind fund, as you heard there, 18,000, here is what that same group did yesterday. For the second consecutive year, god has opened the hearts of sixth Avenue Baptist Church congregation. Our experience last year led us to understand we have the power to change lives, whether it is in the magic city or around the world. We would like to present this check to the kind fund for 15,730. 88. [ applause ] were getting desks for the children so they wont have to sit on the floor, because its really hard to learn when youre sitting on the floor. It makes me feel proud of myself to be able to go out and help people in need of desks. If i went to School Every Day and i didnt have a desk, i would be really, really sad. I was planning to relocate from new york to birmingham, alabama. So one of the lpriorities on my list was to find a church home. I was listening to the Lawrence Odonnell show. I was so struck by what he was doing that i said i want to be part of that. It teaches our boys about service, about giving. Who would have thought 18,000 last year, 15,000 this year. That is just remarkable for a boy scout and cub scout troupe. Joining me now is mozellaa md a boy scout. What did you do to raise money . This year we held out buckets in front of our church and let people come up to us and donate for the kind fund, and there was also candy we sold for 1 each. And people would buy candy and donate to the buckets. Its hard for me to talk to you without hugging you. Its hard to do that on satellite. I want to hug you too. The first year was quite a miracle, but it had the energy of the first time, you had the energy of discovering it for the first time. Going back at it a second year is harder. The kids know about it already. You had to reenergize them. How did you do that . Well, i didnt really have to reenergize them. When i just mentioned the kind fund, lets do the kind fund, they were excited. I didnt have to energize them at all. They were ready to go. Its really easy to explain to anyone, isnt it . Were just trying to get some kids in africa some desks for their schools. Yes, sir, it sure is. Schools. Yes, sir, sure is. Mozella i cannot thank now enough. I wish i could have make it down there. And michael coates, thank you very much for two years in a row cant thank now enough. Youre welcome. Thank you. The chris hayes show is up next. Tonight on all in, police and a 16hour hostage siege with a hail of gunfire. Tonight, what we know about the man behind it all. Then. 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