Today, it means someones not doing it right. This was as predictable as the sun coming up tomorrow morning. And its because the advice that fauci is dutybound to give doesnt match the plot line of the president. Crisis largely over, lets get back, it will disappear on its own without a vaccine. And for his trouble and for his service dr. Fauci is getting attacked on fox news. Fauci has been wrong quite a bit. Sometimes hes absurd. Now hes praising china for its transparency. And we have the tape of that. Now were not attacking him, okay . Were just as citizens asking questions. What the hell is going on . At this point we should probably pause to point out the u. S. Death toll tonight stands at nearly 84,506. Trumps predictable break with the top pandemic expert came during a meeting with the governors of colorado and north dakota. It came when trump was asked about reopening schools and about dr. Faucis warning yesterday about rushing to reopen our country during a pandemic. I think they should open the schools. Absolutely. I think they should. Its had very little impact on young people. Its up to the governors. Its the governors choice, but the state is not open if the schools arent open. Im surprised by his answer, actually. Because you know, its just to me its not an acceptable answer, especially when it comes to schools. This is a disease that attacks age and it attacks health. And if you have a heart problem, if you have diabetes, if youre a certain age, its certainly much more dangerous. But with the young children, i mean and students its really just take a look at the statistics. Its pretty amazing. Here is what dr. Fauci told senators yesterday about the risk to children specifically from the coronavirus. Weve got to be careful if we are not cavalier in thinking that children are completely immune to the deleterious effects. We just have to see on a stepbystep basis as we get into the period of time in the fall about reopening the schools exactly where well be in the outbreak. Whats concerning fauci and others in Public Health is the rise of a rare and deadly inflammatory syndrome apparently related to this virus. Over 100 children in at least 17 states have developed it. Cdcs now working on guidance for Health Care Professionals so they can track incoming cases. At least three children have died. Meanwhile, trump is making moves to tighten his control of the race to develop a vaccine. Hes appointed a former Drug Company Executive and a fourstar u. S. General to lead the project known as operation warp speed. Tomorrow the nations top official on vaccines dr. Rick bright will testify before a house subcommittee about why he believes he was removed last month and what he sees as failures in the white house response to this virus. In prepared testimony released today bright warns the virus has the potential to eclipse the devastation wrought by the 1918 influenza which globally claimed over 50 million lives. We must act urgently to effectively combat this deadly disease. Our window of opportunity is closing. I fear the pandemic will get far worse. He goes on to add that without clear planning and action 2020 will be the darkest winter in modern history. As that unfolds tomorrow, the president will be on the road visiting the battleground state of pennsylvania. Part of his push to reopen the economy. Trumps going to tour a medical Equipment Company in the allentown area that has been sending ppe to hospitals across the country. Hes been supportive of protests against the pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf and his decision to only open certain parts of the state at a time. The governor threatened to withhold federal aid money from counties that defy his decision. Late today in wisconsin the States Supreme Court struck down that governors stayathome order. As he admitted tonight, the only thing that will keep people at home now is good sense. He called his own state the wild, wild west. Theres also new reporting on the cdcs attempt to provide guidance on reopening the nation. It would conceivably guide states and cities and their planning to slowly reopen. A. P. Reporting the cdc plans that were shelved by the white house included advice on shutting down communities during flareups of covid19 that a former Chemical Industry executive nominated to be the nations top consumer safety watchdog was involved in sidelining those guidelines. Today a top official at the World Health Organization gave a sobering assessment about this virus indicating that we may have to learn to live with it. This virus may never go away. I dont think anyone can predict when or if this disease will disappear. The words come amid reports of resurgence and return of the virus in parts of south korea and china following the easing of restrictions there. The chinese are going to test everyone in wuhan province. Theres also this warning about the Economic Impact of all of this. Goldman sachs predicting well see 25 unemployment. Today Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said its time for congress to focus on another relief package. Since the pandemic arrived in force just two months ago more than 20 Million People have lost their jobs. Almost 40 of those in households making less than 40,000 a year have lost a job in march. To date congress has provided roughly 2. 9 trillion in support. Additional fiscal support could be costly but worth it if it helps avoid longterm damage and leaves us with a stronger recovery. Here for our discussion on a wednesday night, robert costa, National Political reporter for the Washington Post. Hes also moderator of Washington Week on pbs. Anita kumar back with us. White house correspondent and associate editor over at politico. And dr. Nahid bhadelia, an Infectious Diseases physician, medical director of the special pathogens unit up at boston universitys school of medicine. She worked along with the World Health Organization during the west african ebola epidemic. Is also among our medical contributors. Good evening and welcome to you all. Bob costa, on politics, id like to begin, lets take Tucker Carlson at his word that hes not attacking dr. Fauci, just questioning him as he did we noted last night on the air. What does this split with donald trump, predictable as it may be, do to dr. Fauci and does it further distance fauci from his customers, the American People, who are eager to hear information about this virus . The president has been for weeks concerned about dr. Faucis high profile. That is based on my conversations with white house officials and associates of the president. He wants to be driving the conversation about the nations reopening. Hes unhappy within not only the whistleblower, dr. Bright, testifying before the house but dr. Fauci going before the senate. Though it is controlled by republicans. To not be in tune. Dr. Fauci unlike so many people around President Trump is a nonpartisan official, not an appointee of President Trump, and at 79 years old and at this point in his career with all of his accomplishments hes not worried about being on message with what President Trump is saying day to day. That is frustrating the president. And the post has reported extensively about how these frustrations have grown and grown. Probably not helped by the difference in polling numbers, robert. Between faucis approval when you ask the American People how he has handled the virus, if they trust his information, and one donald trump. And theres also a growing gap between the president and dr. Fauci and some of the nations leading Health Officials about how to proceed both on medicine and you see this with dr. Bright. He is saying in his document that hes going to testify about tomorrow that this administration was pushing in his view hydroxychloroquine as a socalled miracle cure to deal with this pandemic. And you also see dr. Fauci and others saying that the nations governors are moving far too quick in many instances, not meeting the metrics that the federal government has set. So as the president urges governors to reopen and has an encouraging message for them, theres a message of caution from dr. Fauci and that has gone well noticed by the president. Okay, anita. Tomorrow the president goes to pennsylvania, suburb of allentown, a place where the economy was already cruel during the, quote, best of times. It has turned especially cruel now. The visit is not billed as a Campaign Event. Its a president ial event. Sometimes, however, during a factory address the president sounds like a Campaign Event. Anyone talking about any chance to change messaging tomorrow . What youre really going to see and what the president wants to do is it is sort of a Campaign Event even though its not. Right . Hes going to a swing state. Last week he went to arizona, also a swing state. But the message is clear from the white house. Theres been a shift there in recent weeks, that it is all about the reopening. Now, that doesnt mean that dr. Fauci and the rest of the administration at fema and other places arent working on testing and other issues. But from the president s point of view and his immediate aides its all about selling this reopening to the American People. Youre going to see him traveling on average once a week to sort of show he can get out and be doing things. People can travel again. And youre going to be seeing him like he was today talking to governors, bringing them in. Not just any governors but governors that are opening up their states. On how theyre doing that and why thats important. This is going to be the entire shift and focus of donald trump and his staff in these coming weeks. Doctor, it must be a bit of a maddening time to be in the Public Health business because we have two equal and opposite camps in our country who view their patriotic duty exactly opposite from one another. Some folks believe that staying out of circulation and staying home is their patriotic duty. Other folks believe its the opposite, that only by getting out can they fulfill their patriotic duty. Do you think, doctor, americans are within their rights for feeling these days like pretty much theyre on their own and hoping common sense will prevail . Brian, let me start by commenting on dr. Faucis position in the conversation you just had. Dr. Fauci hasnt just been a leader leading this country through multiple outbreaks over the last decades, but hes also been an inspiration for generations of Infectious Diseases physicians. My entire profession. With his steady hand and his wisdom, which is really what we need in situation because going back to your point, i think its become a false dichotomy, what Public Health officials have always said is we know there needs to be some sort of modified reopening at some point before the vaccine is available, but because we cant stay indoors. But what we need is this balance where we work through what the measures are that need to be in place and those have been outlined. What youre hearing from dr. Fauci in terms of the caution of not opening too soon and taking stepwise measures, what all other Public Health folks are saying. Today dr. Mike ryan, the w. H. O. Director of message said the same thing. We dont want to be caught in a vicious cycle where we go from a Health Crisis to an economic crisis. Where we open up too fast and we see a lot of cases and we close up again and all this money were putting in the stimulus is for naught because we have another Health Crisis. Thats why thoughtfulness and the leadership we see from dr. Fauci is so important at this time. Robert costa, an abrupt turn into politics and the capitol hill variety. I need to get what you know about the fbi serving senator richard burr, North Carolina republican, with a warrant to see his cell phone activity. All of this goes back to his stock sales at the start of the pandemic. Are you able to gauge how much exposure he has . And apparently hes not alone among senators in having that exposure. The Los Angeles Times broke this story just a few minutes ago about the feds looking into senator burr. Weve known about this investigation for weeks. But now they are pursuing the investigation even further, looking for his records. This is a serious case. A senator who was part of briefings about the pandemic behind the scenes at times, a powerful person in washington. The chairman of the Senate Select committee on intelligence, someone who has access to all kinds of information as one of the most powerful leaders in the nation. He and his family are under scrutiny not just by the press. And weve been on this story for weeks. But by the federal government. Maybe in their view selling stocks, selling his own stocks ahead of when the market started to crash at some point due to the pandemic. And thats old school story of alleged Insider Trading for a major senator. Were going to keep close tabs on it. We dont like to make any conclusions before we know more information, but this is a case that the federal government is not just putting on the shelf to say the least. Indeed. Anita kumar, we turn back to the white house. And dovetailing with our discussion about dr. Fauci, how concerned are you able to gauge at least the white house is about dr. Brights testimony tomorrow, portions of which we just sampled. You know, im hearing that they are worried. Its just another headache for them. Right . Theyve got their hands full with other things. There have been a lot of oversight hearings in these last few years. Obviously, the biggest were the impeachment hearings. And its just something they hadnt anticipated. And here they are in this same situation yet again with oversight hearings. Particularly more problematic in the house, obviously the senates also doing some, but in the house where the democrats are again, once again going, you know, probing the administration. It really i think the thing im hearing the most is this is something that we heard a lot of reporting in the media in various outlets about what has happened these last two months, but here we now have this doctor, dr. Bright, and others will come forward to talk about what they saw. This is sort of putting more information out there about what people have already heard that the administration didnt take this seriously, they didnt start right away. That was the reason there wasnt testing, there wasnt supplies. And other accusations that there were political decisions made. Decisions made that should be made on medicine were actually made because of the president s whims or because of political connections. The American People are going to start to hear all these accusations. Obviously, theyll need to decide whether these witnesses are credible or not. But the white house and President Trumps aides, you know, for them this is just another headache in a time where they have so much to do and they did not anticipate that there would be another round of oversight hearings like this. Brian, can i just jump in here real quick . Yeah, go ahead. Brian, its important to note that the white house is not providing a complete picture about what happened with dr. Bright. Peter navarro, the white house trade adviser, has been asked to testify before this house subcommittee. He has declined. Anna eshoo, the subcommittee chair, has told me she asked secretary azar from hhs to testify as well. No response from hhs. So the house, which is trying to do its role in the constitution of oversight, is not getting compliance from the white house on this dr. Bright matter beyond dr. Brights cooperation. And doctor, you get the last word. Back on the subject of Public Health. Which should be the underlying foundation of this entire discussion. Something the president s been quietly pushing is a return to school for children across the country with exceptions. What happens . In terms of Public Health, when some kids go back to school and some kids dont. Well, brian, one thing we now know as you mentioned at the top of the hour is that there is a new disease entity thats discovered that seems to be correlated with children who may have had covid19 or actively had it. Inflammation of blood vessels. For the most part its a disease that kids can recover from, but in some cases it can be severe and potentially fatal. And its a classic example of how we dont know everything about this disease and potentially how it plays out in children. The other thing to note is when children go back to school and they merge with the bigger population theyre potentially coming back to multigenerational homes where their grandparents are there or around parents who might have medical comorbidities. So they dont exist in a vacuum and thats why this needs to be thoughtful and it needs to be in place with Contact Tracing and testing. Yeah, great point to make and one that does need to be thought out. To robert costa, anita kumar, dr. Nahid bhadelia, thank you for starting us off on this wednesday night. We appreciate it. Coming up for us after our first break here tonight, two mayors of two very different cities who during a pandemic are now forced to make life and death decisions. Its part of the job in deciding how to keep their people safe. And later, the special guest at the white house today and what it may mean for the race against joe biden. The 11th hour, as were just getting under way on a wednesday night. Across america, Business Owners are figuring things out. Finding new ways to serve customers. Connect employees. And work with partners. Comcast business is right there with you. With a network that helps give you speed, reliability and security. And enough bandwidth to handle all your connected devices. Voice Solutions Like remote Call Forwarding and readable voicemail. And safe, convenient installation. When every connection counts, you can count on us. Get the connectivity your business needs. Call today. Comcast business. I would love nothing more than to see the yankees and mets playing again and all the major league teams. But, wolf, certainly not with fans in the stands anytime soon. Thats much farther in the future according to our very careful slow reopening. In this crisis it is so often the mayors who are making the tough calls, emphasizing safety even though it has meant saying no to some annual spring and summer traditions. In rochester, new york it meant postponing this years lilac festival. In boise, idaho, it meant postponing the annual boise music festival. With every new day and every new wave of data on this virus. And so we welcome the mayors of both of those cities to our broadcast tonight. Lovely warren is the mayor of rochester, new york. Lauren mclean, mayor of boise, idaho. Welcome to you both. Mayor warren, well start with you. Upstate new york. Tell us how rochester is handling the pandemic. Well, as you already indicated, of course the lilac festival has been delayed, and also our big vest value, our International Jazz festival has been cancelled as well. So many of the different activities in the summertime that people look forward to have been canceled and we are trying to do everything we can to keep our residents safe. We are also having many fiscal challenges because our revenue has been threatened. But were looking as a community, we are resilient and were looking forward to the future and looking forward to working with our Community Partners to make sure that our residents are safe and that were doing Everything Possible to make sure that everyone is social distancing and doing what they need to do to come out of this pandemic on the other side. Mayor mclean out west, same question to you. Yeah, we are slowly reopening now. We shut our city early, and because of that we were really lucky in terms of not experiencing the waves that many have. At the forefront of our mind is working hard to protect our communitys health to make sure that we can reopen and our economy can recover as quickly as possible. So we currently are in our first stage of reopening where were still as a city requiring physical and social distancing. We have rules around the airport and group sizes. But were optimistic the data will tell us in the next couple days that were able to move ahead to another stage and open more city facilities. But, you know, its so important mayor mclean, as a health matter, has the pandemic gone easy on you or have you fought a lot of cases in boise . Weve been blessed compared to other big cities. Of course we had it here. We had a surge early. Our hospitals were able to stay on top of it and ahead of it. And we shut our city early, which really helped in those days of march and april. Mayor warren, back up to you. I know for a fact you have a robust Summer Education Program in rochester, and i am guessing your heart breaks every day that schools are not in session in your city. When you hear the president say its about time to go back to school, does that influence your thinking and ultimately your decision . Well, right now of course, brian, we are working under the leadership of governor andrew cuomo, and he has done an extraordinary job of really leading new york state and letting us know what in the path that we should take. So monday we will begin on friday actually we will begin phase one of reopening in our region. And we are going to work very closely not only with the Governors Office but with our county exec. s office to make the best decision possible for our community and to keep our residents as safe as possible. The governor has already said that school will not be in session this year. We will close out this year and many of our schools have started to shut down as it pertains to the buildings. But children are still learning online and doing digital learning. And so we have to make sure that we put lives and saving lives first before making any decisions as it pertains to sending children back into an environment that can be detrimental to their health or their familys health. Absolutely. And mayor mclean, back out to you. Were witnessing historic unemployment nationwide. How cruel has the economy been in boise, and are your numbers anywhere close to the National Average . So, shutting our economy down to protect our Public Health was such a hard decision to make, but it was one we had to make, and were seeing here what people are seeing around the country. People are struggling. Businesses are shut. People are waiting for their stimulus and unemployment checks. 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I think were going to have a tremendous 4th quarter. I think were going to have a transitional 3rd quarter and i think were going to have a phenomenal next year. The president with an optimistic outlook on the economy despite over 20 million jobs lost last month alone. One of our next guests, Eugene Robinson said the president is still engaged in magical thinking. He has long maintained the virus will go away without a vaccine though experts tell him it will not. His vanity will not allow him to be photographed with a face mask. The phrase whistling past the graveyard comes to mind. Here with us again tonight the aforementioned Eugene Robinson, a pulitzer prime columnist for the Washington Post and steve smith, a veteran political strategist who left john mccains effort. He has left the Republican Party but hasnt left politics. Explain imagimagical thinking fe good folks watching tonight. Brian, you recall that the United States and south korea on the same day, both countries experienced their first case of covid19. First identified case. South korea to date has had 260 deaths. We have had 84,000. And the reason is that south korea engaged in actual realistic thinking and contained the virus, and did the sort of testing and Contact Tracing early that was necessary. The president took the attitude that the virus wouldnt come, and if it did come, it would just disappear. He always makes this curve in the air with his hand like that when he talks about how it will just disappear. The one thing we know from the experts is it will not just disappear. It will not just go away. And, in fact, it has now invaded his own residence. The white house complex itself has had two cases that we know of of covid19 and this daily testing and this Contact Tracing and the trying to contain it there. But theres no such Program Available for the rest of us, and so the president is determin determined. Hes egging on governors to open up the economy again, and were all just going to have to deal with the situation that, you know, were kind of living inside trumps imagination and thats no way to be safe from covid19. Steve schmidt, Public Health, protection of the population when president s engage in matters of Public Health, they are the very definition of playing with house money. You have long argued that this is the worst president ever elected. You tweeted this week that the president in your view is beginning to panic. What do you see . Well, good evening, brian. What donald trump sees and why were reading accounts in newspapers like the Washington Post and the New York Times about the turbulence in the campaign or poll numbers that show his numbers collapsing in states like michigan with pennsylvania, and close contests in states like texas. The American People are watching this play out every day, and they understand that this is not what competency looks like. This is not what a strong leader looks like, and i think that the American People in majority numbers are coming to a conclusion which is this president is totally out of his depth. Hes outmatched completely. He lacks literally every conceivable quality necessary for leadership at a National Level in a crisis, and hes failing at a time of testing for the country at a historic level. There has never been an american leader who has performed as incompetently, as ineptly, as poorly as he has, and literally everything he says we range from the imbecilic, which is the suggestion that the American People should protect themselves by injecting disinfectant, to the daily dishonesty and lying, that the American Economy which will touch on 25 unemployment, which will magically be restored in the 4th quarter or 1st quarter next year. And he said two months ago when there were only 15 cases, it would soon go away. Just like when he said the chinese were doing a great job, and he had full confidence in president xi. This response by this administration couldnt have been worse if you had a group of sabators working in the white house trying to harm the country. Its epically bad. We see the inventions of the ludicrous obama gate scandal. Well see the race baiting and xenophobic, bash china and blame them. Hell put himself in the role of americas biggest victim. He will portray himself as the injured party, as what happens in this country, the worlds epicenter of coronavirus death and suffering, as our death count crosses the 100,000 person threshold, and ultimately the 200,000 person threshold and likely north of that, and none of it ever had to happen. None of it had to happen. Both of these gentlemen have graciously agreed to stick around during the break. 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Party leaders have quickly united around him, and he has an edge over President Trump in mo most polls but has yet to prove himself as a formidable employee to set policy agenda for the nation and his candidacy has not solved the unprecedented challenges of running from the white house from the seclusion of his home. With us are Eugene Robinson and Steve Schmidt. I have one for you because when maggie speaks, we listen. Potus had a meeting with his Political Team at the white house today to go over the latest poll fundraising, et cetera. What is the bush 43 veteran going to do for him, do you suppose . Carl is envisioning the white house as a senior statesmen in the Republican Party, someone who was the top strategist for two successful president ial elections, he is like an ambassador from reality. Hes going in there to look donald trump in the eye and tell him the truth, which is that hes on track to lose the election and to lose it to joe biden badly in that his performance in these briefings and everything hes been doing has done nothing but undermine the confidence of the American People and his leadership. Carl will be fearless in communicating to trump the reality of the situation. We know from media accounts that donald trump is deeply upset about the Campaign Manager whos gone out and bought a bunch of ferraris and expensive real estate. We know that Cory Lewandowski is trying to get back into the campaign. We know that Jared Kushner is trying to stop that. There might be a melt down at the Trump Campaign headquarters. Remember, nothing is ever Donald Trumps fault, and thats part of the political problem. You know, americans as a people, generally we dont have much tolerance for losers and for whiners and complainers and every day we see someone up there casting blame on his mistakes, on everybody else, whining, complaining. Honest to goodness, when hes not up there at the briefings talking about how big his ratings are, he talks about the fact that hes had it tougher and worse than Abraham Lincoln did. No one has had it harder, no one has been meaner to him. Nobody is going to be able to sit in the white house and tell donald trump that the reason hes losing the election to joe biden is because of his awful performance and hes a reality show host who has no capacity intellectually, mentally or morally to be the commander in chief of the american nation, and therefore, its going to be a finger pointing and blame gaming, and so im sure they ask carl to come in as a voice of confidence to lay it out on the line for him. Donald trump is not going to listen to carl rove. Donald trump has shown over and over again, he listens to one person and thats the voice in his head. Eugene, youve got to admit, the guy has a way with words. Eugene, lets talk about polling. We try never to casts aspersion on polling because good money and intentions go into them no matter who has the poll in the field. A ton of people looked from the cnn numbers today, battleground states and didnt believe them. What do you make of it . Well, look, the numbers the cnn poll had from the battleground states dont agree with the other numbers we have had from battleground states and so thats why people look at them with a certain skepticism. Every once in a while, the best of pollsters have been an outlier poll, and so this may be that. You know, i dont think youve dismissing any poll. And you go back and check in your state. But very quite consistently polling to date, at least, has shown President Trump in trouble not only nationally but especially in those battle gr n ground states. The polling has shown republican candidates in trouble in republican states like montana and North Carolina, much less a state like maine where Susan Collins is vulnerable, and arizona. It has shown a very bleak picture in texas. And as Steve Schmidt said, this is Donald Trumps fault. I mean, this is Donald Trumps hes an incumbent president. Its his election to lose, and hes losing it, and he loses a bit more every time he goes out and has one of those briefings. The last time we got not only the usual assortment of too many lies to chronicle, we also got to see a kind of overblatant racism that was shocking, i think, to a lot of people, and the whining and victimization and woe is me that were accustomed to. So i got to think that joe biden, every time he hears that the president is going to give an afternoon briefing, it probably helps him incrementally in the next poll. Gentlemen, thank you both. Thank you for prevailing through my quarantine voice. We have freeze warnings in the area tonight, and i keep checking the calendar but its as cold as winter. Gentlemen, thanks. Eugene robinson, Steve Schmidt, well do this again. Coronavirus comes close to home as it has for so many. Now its hit somebody you have seen on this broadcast, and we will hear his story when we come back. Y when we come back of our own onair medical team is sick with the coronavirus. Dr. Joseph fahr is a new york based virologist who you have seen on this broadcast and others. He announced today he has been hospitalized after experiencing trouble breathing days ago. Back on march 4th when we were still in our studios, we had the doctor on our broadcast from new york, and i remember it because when i greeted him, when he came out during the commercial break, he was the first person i encountered to decline politely a handshake. He explained, and i appreciated hearing it, that we had to stop doing that. And turns out he was right, and while he was always careful, now he is sick and our own dr. John torres today spoke with the doctor about his ordeal. Posting the stunning news from his hospital bed that hes got covid19. Im on the other end of it, but not out of the woods yet. A virologist spent years in africa studying some o. Most deadly viruses known to man, including ebola. Now the virus hunter believes he was infected with the coronavirus after traveling on a crowded plane two weeks ago to new orleans. My flights were packed, and i had a mask on, gloves on. I did my normal whites routine, but obviously you can still get it through your eyes. Joseph started noticing symptoms about three days after the flight. He lost his appetite, fell nauseous and developed muscle aches. About six or seven days into that is probably when my lung infection developed because i started getting really short of breath. I really couldnt take a full breath and thats when i decided to call 911, a first for me. My first ambulance ride. At the hospital, he tested negative for covid four separate times. Fair says its most likely because he waited too long to get the test. The virus levels dropping at this stage of his recovery. Hes now being treated with oxygen while his lungs heal. Its a Surprising Development for someone who had been showing us how to protect ourselves in public places. Social distancing, using masks, cleaning your hands, not touching your face, and you still got the virus. I did do all of those things. You know, occasionally you make a mistake. Even people like me that do this for a living. But i cant overtly remember one if i did make it. Whats your message to people . Dont be in a hurry to open up. I know it seems like your life is over, but you know me, john, im a healthy 42yearold. I know we can get through this as a nation, but really we have to take it seriously. Both fascinating and scary, and of course we wish our friend dr. Fair a full and speedy recovery. Another break for us, and coming up, how it is that researchers in a pandemic have turned to a very few, very good dogs. Ry goos can it help keep me asleep . Absolutely, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. And now, save 1,000 on the sleep number 360 special Edition Smart bed, now only 1,799. Only for a limited time. Last thing before we go tonight, we know dogs can multitask. We know their talents are vast. For starters, anytime you see a dog in a vest, it means theyre on the job, which admittedly is a second job as the first job of any dog is to love us forever. Researchers in the uk are working with some very good dogs to sniff out the coronavirus. Well just get out of the way here, and let you watch the very good dogs. They are trained to sit down when they detect it amid all the other samples and in these days, when theres talk about the tsa taking all of our temperatures at the airport prior to boarding a flight, which, remember, would not reveal an asymptomatic virus character, listen to this professors thoughts on how dogs could help. The key is we can screen the lot of people and its noninvasive. The dogs would be able to detect this from people passing through. If you imagine a dog in an airport thats looking at detecting drugs and explosives, walking down the line it would be the same sort of method and each individual dog could screen up to 250 people per hour. We could get through a lot of people very very quickly. So in other words, dogs will save us. Theyre used to that, as you know, if youve ever loved a dog. That is our broadcast for this wednesday night. Thank you so very much for being here with us. On behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. Ars tonight on all in, the new trump world crisis strategy, lie to you about the number of dead and attack dr. Fauci. A shocking new report shows the white house efforts to dupe the staff while trump tv does its part for the reelection campaign. Plus, the trump gang escapes. How is it that these three men have been let off the hook as the rest of americas prisoners face the pandemic behind bars. And the national pastime, inside the labor fight over Major League Baseballs plan to return this summer. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes, having utterly failed at containing the virus and protecting americans, President Trump is now going to try to lie to you about the death toll