0 hello everybody, a very good morning it is, you are very welcome to their breakfast show wherever you are around the world, two weeks since president putin invaded ukraine, and the war has seen possibly's most significant atrocity yet. maternity hospital in mariupol bombed by russian forces the russian minister will he be james, it comes after. -- we'll speak to labours ed miliband this hour, it's thursday the 10th of march. beyond atrocity, ukraine's president says presidents are still buried under the rubble of a hospital bombed and marriott poll. the uk armed forces minister condemns the act in the strongest terms. >> volodymyr zelenskyy has told sky news that the world must ask now before it's too late and stuff the bombing. >> if it goes on this way, you will see, they will close this guy. but we will lose millions of people. the ukrainian government says that more than 1000 people have been killed in mario poll since russia's invasion began. there were more airstrikes overnight, local officials say hospitals were hit west of kyiv. the armed forces minister james heabbey, and a warning to any russian soldiers fighting in ukraine. for a british persons to go absent without leave to fight in a foreign war. >> this is the scene live in antalya, in turkey. ahead of the high-level talks so far to take place with the ukrainian foreign minister, meeting his russian counterpart. also coming up on the program for you, we're gonna be speaking to the exiled belarusian opposition leader, who says that the belarus military is under kremlin. control >> and, in addition we are gonna be speaking to the animal rescue charity in ukraine, which is also helping to deliver supplies to hospitals. >> hello everybody, the armed forces minister james heap the, has told the program that the bombing of a children's hospital constitutes a war crime it comes as the ukrainian president zelenskyy has told sky news that the world must act now before it's too late. but this morning, mr. heappey strongly worded, that any british personnel heading to -- let's take a quick look at the latest developments out of ukraine this morning. these are the latest for you. the uk's ministry of defense says there has been a notable decrease in russian military air activity in recent days due to the unexpected effectiveness of ukraine's defense russian airstrikes have hit three hospitals to overnight. one yesterday in a maternity hospital in mariupol, russia has dismissed america pole attack is fake news officials in poland say more than one and a quarter million refugees have entered from ukraine in just two weeks evacuations from besieged cities are expected to continue today, and ukrainian and russian foreign ministers arrived for talks in turkey. president zelenskyy has ukraine alone cannot end the war. well earlier i asked the armed forces minister about the photo showing the ball into maternity ward, this is what he said. >> the west is watching, and rushing commanders need to remember that war crimes are not just committed by those at the very top of the russian government, they're committed all the way down the chain of command by all those who are involved. would you need to see on your tv screen, is a war crime, clearly there's evidence to be gathered to prove this is a war crime. and western countries are working together, to make sure that that evidence is gathered in the best way so people can be held to account. let's be clear let's be clear, what putin is doing, is not a war waged between two militaries. right now, he has besieged a number of ukrainian cities. he's waged a war against ukrainian citizens. i also told james heappey about, reports that -- said she'd absolutely support brits going abroad to fight, but what is the armed forces minister think? >> it is illegal for a british service person to, first of all, go absent without leave in the first place. but to go absent without leave, in order to fight in a foreign war, is simply unacceptable, and frankly, risks the 90 kingdom being wrongly claimed by russia to be a belligerent in this. i think service people who might think that they are doing the right thing, should reflect that it is not 100% not the right thing. >> well, russian airstrikes have hit three hospitals in ukraine, in the past day. local officials say two hospitals were hits, 90 miles west of he have. russian aircraft were filmed flying overhead shortly before the explosion. the city had that the buildings were blown up during the course, but no one -- this is the scene after an attack on a maternity hospital marriott poll, 70 people were injured, including women who are waiting to give birth, with some children buried in the rubble. president zelenskyy has described it as a war crime. russia dismissed it as fake news. . what does labor think? and miliband is with us now. mr. miliband, thank you for joining us on program this morning. lots to talk to you about this morning, let's start that with that attack on the maternity hospital in mary a poll. is the war crime? >> yes, it is absolutely an appalling scene that we are seeing. heartbreaking and outrageous. is the way i would describe it. to bomb a hospital, as the russians have done, then to claim it is fake news. this is rather classic putin behavior, as we've seen throughout this conflict. >> it is so, and i also want to pick up on something that the defense minister, armed forces minister was saying to me in the last hour, about british people, british veterans, british soldiers leaving their post to go to fight in ukraine, do you condemn that? >> i agree with james heappey on this, he's got the right position on this. i don't think she should've said what she said. i think he is right. what we've got to do in this crisis, kay, is that we have to tighten the grip that we have, until the sanctions on the putin regime, which have continued to provide the defensive equipment, the anti aircraft equipment, to the ukrainians, to work with our allies in every possible way, to maximize the pressure on putin. he is feeling the economic pressure, people around him will be feeling the economic pressure, when we look at what's happening with the rubble, the stock market. that has got to be our priority, that is the best way, the most effective way, the way we should go forward. >> that's the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov, arriving for talks in turkey with his ukrainian counterpart. how hopeful are you have anything useful coming from those talks? >> well, it's obviously important that those talks happen. i think we have seen throughout this conflict, and then right up to this conflict, with the russian behavior has been duplicitous, lying, and appalling, frankly. and therefore, i obviously hope those talks can get somewhere. but whether it's in relation to the humanitarian corridor, having been respected, or if it's the case of the russians claiming they after day but they weren't going to evade, and then invaded. some of those false flag operations that where they were saying the russians were somehow being attacked. my faith in the russians being kind of, in any sense, is zero. meantime we see shelling day after day after day, many thousands of people losing their lives as a result. we won't know the true number for some considerable time. i think i should point out that you voted not to intervene in syria, despite the same thing happening, shelling on civilians and hospitals been bombs. chemical weapons end up being used, when president putin thought we were turning away, and didn't have the stomach for the fight. is there a lesson to be learned from history? >> look, in 2013, we were presented with an option to bomb president assad, and get involved in conflict in syria. we said after iraq, kay, that we were not going to get involved in foreign conflicts, unless we had a clear sense of our aims, our missions, our exit strategy. we wouldn't -- in fact, donald trump did bomb aside in 2017, and it made no difference to the course of the war. so what happened in syria is tragic and appalling, but i don't believe that a different decision would've been the right decision in 2013. we have to confront what we face now, that is what putin is doing in ukraine. we have to take all the measures we can to try to support the ukrainian people. >> in the meantime, millions of people are fleeing the country. some of them are eventually finding themselves on the border, on the edge of the channel i should say, in calais, i've been sent back to all sorts of places to try to get their visas completed appropriately. just speaking to lord rick, it's who you know, i'm sure, said we should waive our visas challenges for now. do you agree? >> we have an emergency visa, a 12-month emergency visa, where that's the right way to go, why do i say that? because you can do on the spot security checks of people, just checking against the watchlist. and you can get biometric information, which is important information for when people arrive in the country. this can be done literally on the spot, we should have emergency sanctions at every entry point, every potential entry point. of train stations, etc. this is absolutely doable, i believe that there is some talk of the army getting involved in this. i think that would be a good idea, because frankly, the information that i'm receiving, i was talking to the secretary about this is that the system is not working. we see farce selves this system is not working, people being turned away. this can be done, and it can be done speedily. >> in the meantime, sanctions are being pushed in place in the hopes that it will squeeze out president putin into moving away from ukraine. part of that is oil and gas of course, sanctions on that. as we move away from relying on russian oil and gas, either directly or indirectly. which is labor propose we do? >> that's what i'm talking about today, in manchester. the key thing here is we need a green energy sprint. what we need to do for energy security, to keep prices as low as we can, and obviously for the private prices, is to move further and faster on all of the low carbon zero carbon -- nuclear, energy efficiency, we're proposing a massive upgrade of insulation. over 60 billion planned over the next ten years. all of this can reduce our reliance on imported gas. this is not just the right way for climate, but it's the right way to go for energy security is a price. this insulation plan we're going putting forward, kay, it's gonna cut peoples bills by about 4000 pounds. we've got -- i really hope, there's talk of the prime minister doing a speech on this, i really hope that he grasps the metal on this, any moves forward on this, because it's the right choice for our country. >> good to talk to you, thanks for taking the time to join us, from god's own country out there in great manchester this morning, thank you. >> thanks, kay. >> tamara is here, high. >> good morning, kay, interesting that labor says we have to speed up on refugees, because it sounds like that's exactly with the home secretary is gonna do. i'm expecting her to make some statement to parliament, with a change, changes over the next few days. but the change to the -- there working, visiting, studying, but don't have permanent residency, may be able to bring their relatives over, which seems like an obvious avenue for the government to go down and help increase in numbers. but of course, the real bottleneck is in places like the polish border, where we have seen these angry scenes with elderly people and young babies waiting in the freezing cold for hours an hours, and we are now seeing military personnel james heappey, going there to, try to speed things up, labor sound like they welcome that it's whether both labor and the conservative say we shouldn't fall the eu and let people in without any checks. and we must speed things up as a matter of urgency. and how much will lift trust we were getting which set a couple weeks ago? >> well liz truss said we absolutely support people who want to fight for ukrainians, and immediately there was the de the defense secretary said, no you shouldn't do that. then we had the very strongest condemnation from james hippie a former soldier himself saying, not just -- breaking the law by going there but veterans, people who have some military training making their way there desperately wanting to help that we all desperately want to help. he says they're not helping, and they should be aware that once you are get there you are stuck in that war until it ends. it is not just a couple of weeks and you can cross back. so think very strong, condemnation there. this is the talks in turkey with sergei lavrov, the russian foreign minister. and one wonders what we might see as a result of that. >> yeah, he was strikingly not hopeful actually. saying what compromise could the international community urge president zelenskyy to make. there is discussion of whether he would give up some of his claims to the eastern parts of the country, a lot more rights for russians speakers in order to prevent the russian forces coming into the capitol and doing what they have done in mariupol and elsewhere with huge devastation. it sounds like the british government saying if he wants, that we will support him. >> look forward to it. we will be hearing from president zelenskyy in an exclusive interview with british television with our very own alex, coming up in just a moment. first, let's have a look at what the papers are saying. the bombing of the mariupol hospital is featured on many of the front pages of newspapers this morning. >> -- the metro described it as a new low for putin, with a picture of some of those that have been injured. >> the mayor says simply, barbaric. while the mail closet to praised and says force johnston has -- to account. well as promised the ukrainian president has told sky news that millions of people could die if the world does not stop the bombing of his country. in an exclusive interview for british television he accused western countries of being indecisive, but britain and the united states have consistently rejected ukraine's plea for a no-fly zone. he spoke to our own alex -- >> you can't decide to close or not to close. you can't decide. if you are united against the -- terror, you have to close. not me. don't weigh me asking you several times, millions times to close the sky. you have to -- our people who lost their children, and say sorry we didn't do it yesterday. one week ago. we didn't push putin, we didn't speak with him a lot, we didn't find dialogue with him. we did nothing. and in the future, it will be too late. and believe me, if it is prolonged this way, yes, you will see, they will close the sky. but we will lose millions of people. >> how alex is now live with us from kyiv. , alex, when he was put into office not a long ago, he was considered somewhat of a joke, he was a comedian fast becoming a war hero. >> he is not a joke now that is for certain. even those who didn't vote for him, are very much rallying behind him. he has really inspired, not just the cranium people, but much of the world. this is probably a man they didn't know the name of a few weeks ago. he has talked to at least ten world leaders a day, after us he went on to talk to nancy pelosi, and others. he is firing on all cylinders and the general and basically, surviving on about four hours a night. he says he is lucky if he gets that. he is obviously very tired, but determined as -- the power of the media and particularly how he can get his message across in english is not his first language, but he persevered with that because he wanted to get across to english speaking world. i think you could hear his frustration and his almost anger because he very much feels that the rest of the world has been far too slow going through all the decision-making, we haven't got time for you to vote, we haven't got time for you to decide, we need the action now. he feels that already at least -- likely spoken to his chief of staff as well and presidents ellen ski they are not in any way prepared to give up any territories. any idea that they might give up is off the table so very difficult to ignore the compromises there to come. he says he is open to dialogue, he is open to talk to the russian leader, but, he does it hold out hope of its succeeding because he said for any compromise, for this water stop needs two of them to stop it. he let it be known that he didn't think president putin was in any way going to stop. that is why we need the skies to close. it is in his views that the western world will have to eventually, start pulling over to them and it is going to be very late. he said, millions of ukrainians civilians and soldiers will end up dead. he wants to seek prosecution of or he perceives to be a war crime by the russian leader and russian troops, this is what he said about the maternity hospital and maria pull. >> they will all be in prison. that is what i want to see. i don't want to see help people cut their legs, we are people, we are normal people. they have to be in prison and stop bombing. that is it. what do you want? >> he also refuted the whole suggestion that -- the needs to be here, thinks it's the right decision to unite his people and only they can decide who is ukrainians leader. >> alex for now, thank you, the exclusive interview for british television. thank you. >> and -- speaking to the prime minister and this evening will be airing that for you on sky news. that is on that rigby interviews tonight. a new program hosted by our political editor atlanta clock this evening, do tune in for that. >> still to come on the program for, you're speaking to a ukrainian living in lviv who has no plans to leave. and we will be speaking to a top human rights prosecutor asking whether those war crimes committed in ukraine could be brought to justice. as nato countries continue to ignore ukraine's pleas for a no fly zone over the country, speaking to a local politician appealing to president biden to overturn the decision. well many hernias living abroad have been returning home to help, but the country's war efforts against russia -- joining us is nick martin, from lviv in western ukraine. hi, nick, good morning. how are you doing? >> morning, kate, well as you know lots of people have been trying to flee ukraine from the violence and the bloodshed. when we arrived at the border yesterday to catch a train into ukraine it was very surprising, because the train was not full full. certainly packed with people with spirit, people who had been outside of ukraine over the last few weeks, now very keen to get back in for all sorts of reason. no family, there have children there, i met one woman who shared her husband and six-year-old are 100 miles from here. she can get anywhere near, him but she wants to get back into ukraine to volunteer for the war effort. i spoke to another teacher who had been in poland, mother time she came back her country had been invaded. she is headed to odessa her hometown and she knows very well that part of that vladimir putin has his eye set keen on that pour count. enormous bravery and some real spirit on that five hour train journey back into ukraine. more broadly, everybody knows that more and more cities are under siege by the russian military. just look at that attack on the military hospital in mariupol, 17 people wounded, children buried under heavy rubble, and the white house has described that attack, that air strike as barbaric. meanwhile the world health organization has said the this russians have targeted no less than 18 health centers and hospitals since the war began. the u.s. defense department saying today that the suggestion is the russian advance is struggling, but nevertheless is ongoing and of course refugees still fleeing. 2 million crossing the borders all around ukraine. this is a desperate situation. >> okay, nick, thank you. well the ukrainian and -- turkey today within the last hour. highest level pox between the two nations since the invasion began. international affairs editor who dominic waghorn is there for us. hi, dominic, i spoke to the minister here in the uk, he said he was not hopeful. is there greater hope where you are? >> this is i don't know. there is a lot of interest as you can see. hundreds of journalists from around the world really. this is really the only hope there is at the moment. so, these horrendous things you are seeing in ukraine, coming to an end, but i have to say yes piece is echoed by western diplomats saying. they are pretty skeptical -- for the simple reason that russia seems to be sending its foreign minister here to talk peace, he is now bombing auspices and continuing beginning deeper and pushing and harder into ukraine. you have to say that what is happening in ukraine is very similar to what russia did with -- syria. it bombed hospitals there because it was to get civilians out of an area so that it can get its proxies on the ground. ukrainians -- what the russians are saying in warsaw and other cities that they are trying to take over is that -- streets marching with flags and incredibly bravely walking up to soldiers after they are firing their guns in the air, people power, stopping the russian advance. so the way to stop that if you just get rid of those people, you for civilians out. the best way of getting civilians out of an area is to terrify them. if you think about your safest place in your town which is your hospital was hit by an airstrike, you would feel very unsafe and you would get out. you would not stay put. that is where syria is left with tens of thousands from -- and it is why ukraine and russians will also get out of towns would the threats to the russian and advance and great numbers. i think that fear is that russians are pursuing the same cynical play they were in syria, tearing out these extraordinary attacks on hospitals and medical facilities. the world health organization saying it had been hit in recent days in ukraine and then saying it is all fake news, that they carried out these attacks. there is overwhelming evidence that they did this in syria, and now is trying to do the same ukraine. given that is what is going on, you have to be pretty skeptical and cynical about what sergei lavrov the russian foreign minister and his counterpart ukrainian dimitri tolliver can do here. they have begun -- maybe greater optimism, we will have to see. but if you are hoping for a breakthrough here, i think manager expectations. >> okay, dominic, thank you so much indeed. just to -- allegations coming out of russia this morning when it comes to footage here on sky news we go to extreme lengths to verify the time and location of that footage before we bring it to you, either online or on tv. now more than 2 million people have now fled ukraine to escape the war, most of them crossing over into poland. we are now joined from the polish border with ukraine. >> hello to you, i can say another bitterly cold day with so many people desperate to flee the bombing. >> yeah, and as you say, k, pullen has taken the vast majority of those 2 million -- i've lost count of exactly how many the police has received weight calls to one and a half million. so an enormous effort by this country to -- make sure they are looked after when they get here, that they are processed and any help can be given to help them be on their way to wherever they want to go to. as you and i have discussed before, some of them have relatives of their where in europe, and if that is the case they're taking to train stations or airports. a lot of them don't have a plan, they have left home completely unexpectedly. a few weeks ago they did not think this would be happening. they come here scared, frighten, very tired. so it is an unlikely task for poland and other countries surrounding ukraine, but i have to say from our witnessing of it, they have risen to the challenge. another event here in full and, i think it is worth marking, u.s. president kamala harris is flying into warsaw to meet the president. the reason this is significant is because there has been disagreement between the u.s. and poland. white public, which has been rare throughout this crisis. for the most part nato and western allies have been -- but pullen offered to transfer some soviet era jets to a u.s. air force base in germany for them to then on pass for the ukrainian air force. now that they made this gesture very publicly, the idea being that ukraine air force would have more firing power in the hands. the americans, a few hours after that authorized -- and said it just didn't viable. so i think kamala harris is here to try and heal any rift and see if there's any way forward without gesture. okay, thank you. in turn, the prime minister has continued to resist calls to drop visa requirements for ukrainians fleeing the war, making it difficult for those refugees intending are coming to the uk. laura is standing by for us in leland, in france, not in calais, why is that, laura? >> it's because, kay, lilles, is the city, where the home office is setting up a new pop-up application center. it's not the case that who want can just turn up here, there's no appointments, no walk in. instead, we understand those who are deemed eligible and the most vulnerable ukrainians are going to be referred here. but what that means and, who is deciding. bear in mind we all have these huge areas to get here, but yesterday we saw in kelly, we saw buses taking people calais from, to near to lilles, where they can start this whole process. there is this huge sense of frustration growing among the ukrainian people that we spoke to. we spoke to many people who arrived in calais over the last few days, when they got there, they were told they should go to paris, now finish application in paris. so will be whether or not you visa has been approved. every single person has had a huge, long difficult journey, we spoke to one family they have taken trains, they've lost count of the number of transit taken from slovakia to france. the father said to me, it's so frustrating, why is it taking so long, kay, it really should be taking much faster to get these visas. >> laura, thank you so much, indeed remember, if you have a family fleeing from ukraine, and you're watching us in the uk, and they think they can go to lilles, unless they have an appointment, they can't. that may change, but as we speak this morning, they can't. we will see what we can do to help you. more than 2 million people have fled ukraine to escape the war, while more still have been displaced within the country. among them is lira, who left her home in the capital of kyiv, is seeking safety in the countries west. thank you for joining us on the program, how are you? >> we're happy to join you from lviv. i'm good, i just arrived yesterday morning, it was really hard because -- traveling from every part of ukraine, especially from kharkiv up to that situation that was in the previous week, a lot of kharkiv citizens they could leave the city and move to the west part of ukraine or abroad. -- >> laura, what are conditions like where you are? >> now i'm in lviv, in an apartment. in the city, it's a really calm situation, so i haven't heard any sirens or cannons, so it is really better than kyiv. >> okay, so do you plan to stop and leave, or do you plan to continue traveling. because, of course, russia said it would or open a western corridor to russia if people in the west of ukraine want to make that journey. >> maybe i'm quite optimistic, but i don't want to cross the border, i want to stay in ukraine till the end, tell our victory because i want to do key of, it's my native city. and we could leave for the country. >> what was it like in your city, when you left? >> sorry, can you repeat place. >> i can, in kyiv, what was a like, what made you decide to leave? >> yeah, almost two weeks i used a bombshell theory, because every morning, every, day every evening, we really felt the cans, it was very terrifying. and when we go down under ground and shelters, it's a really good solution to this panic. but for mental health, it's very difficult to stay in kyiv, in the city where we have an active situation with the russian forces. >> and how are you feeling now. now that you are out of kyiv, and you have arrived in lviv. do you know how long you will be staying there? >> i'm planning to stay about two weeks maximum. and i hope that in this time, the situation will be more stable. so i was with my family, we can move back to kyiv. >> keep in touch with us, let us know how you're doing, and if we can help you in any way, then of course we will. thank you for taking the time to join us this morning, keep safe. >> thank, you much appreciated as well. >> thank you. living in bomb shelters, and then moving to another city in order to try to avoid those bombs that are being dropped by the russians, including on a maternity hospital, speaking to the british government this morning they said that is a war crime and they're going to reported as such. let's have a look at what happened, this was one of the images heavily pregnant lady. she was resting in the hospital, as we heard from dominic, you consider that to be the safest place, don't you, within a city. and it was bombed i can't even begin to imagine. that was a story in the telegraph in, the times now of this image of vladimir putin meeting with his minister of children's rights, apparently discussing what they were going to do with children who were made orphans, and how are they going to be able to find a new homes in russia. there's a simple way around, that don't follow their parents. some ukrainians are still trying to boost morale, a member of the kyiv classic symphony orchestra pictured here in the eye before moving into the capitol. good for him. this aid worker addressed as a clown at a refugee center in the city of dnipro. trying to show up this little person. in the mail we see tomorrow, celebrating her 87th birthday, 87 years young, she'll take from the overhead fire in her basement. we wish her many happy returns, and hopefully next year life will be very different for her. but she did what she could to celebrate her 87th birthday. well a team from the international criminal court has already begun an investigation -- international criminal tribal funeral, from the former yugoslavia in rwanda, the former judge richard golden. hello to you sir, thank you for joining us on the program. is what putin is doing in ukraine a war crime? >> it certainly appears to be, from the photographs and the videos and so forth. it would appear that there was an intention of attacking civilians, it can't be a a coincidence that various hospitals have been struck. that's a very curious war crime, but unfortunately you're not in the international criminal court. the icc can only prosecute a crime against a state that is joined the icc, and as a agreed to be subject to the provisions of aggression. people are looking for other ways to bring aggression charges, and the people around. >> just to clarify, even if president putin were charged, he would have to be arrested in a state that russia accepts the jurisdiction of the court. and other words, he's never likely to face justice. >> well, you know, one never knows. people said the exact same thing to me about president milosevic, and carve itch, and maligned of itch. but they never appear before the hague. but of course, that changed, there was a revolution in their own country, and milosevic was kicked out, and he was put into an arrow plane and sent to the hague. as we know, unfortunately he died in the middle of the crowd, but he faced justice. one never knows, the head of state -- he's not gonna be able to travel, because whatever mechanism, whatever international mechanism might issue an arrest warrant for vladimir putin. he will know that there are many countries in the world, all 39 nations have referred to the situation to the international criminal court, there is an arrest warrant. putin will not be able to travel to those countries, as we saw with al-bashir, in the international criminal court. it's very difficult for a head of state not to be able to travel, and so a foreign minister not to be able to travel. >> sure, i understand. ukraine also not a signatory to the international criminal court, does not make matters more complex? >> well ukraine is not a full member of the national criminal court, but it has in 2014 agreed to -- has made a statement under their own statute, a green to give jurisdiction to the international criminal court. all kinds of its jurisdiction committed since 2014. that more left has the effect of making -- a member of their own statute, and therefore the icc. it's a reason that either states actually refer to refer the investigation to the prosecutor, but it's unprecedented, and certainly for the icc. as i mentioned before, 39 of its members have made their reference to the group. >> okay, so we are where we are. how does one start to make a case against president putin? we heard from the british government this morning, they are going to report what they saw in mariupol as a war crime. does it take several nation states to make the complaint, and then it is investigated from there? >> well, of course, it seems to me that international criminal justice can play a very important role in being some sort of justice to victims. and they of course, the victims, are often ignored. but they are the prime customers, if i could put it that way, of the international criminal justice. the icc has full jurisdiction over a war crimes committed in the ukraine, and crimes against humanity. but there are now under steps being taken, through the general assembly of the united nations. and having a nuremburg style tribunal, from countries with jurisdiction. that way it will compliment the work the icc, and be able to bring a charge of aggression against putin and his those around him. >> we very much appreciate you taking the time to join us on the program this morning, live from cape town. thank you. >> by. >> i, thank you. well of course, as sanctions start to bite, so when it comes to oil and gas are coming from russia, causing all sorts of problems. not least, on the high street here in the uk, where ian is joining us from the city. ian, i was looking at the price of petrol this morning, as they came to work. my goodness. >> yes, the prices right now trading some 3% higher on the day. $115.29 a barrel. that's the say it was higher than that earlier this week, we were flirting with 1:39 on tuesday. so we've come up a little bit from that, equity markets in europe trading low right now. they have very very good day yesterday, that was followed up by gains on wall street overnight, and in the asia-pacific markets. we've had some very interesting news out of russia this morning, k, real evidence of how western sanctions are starting to impact on russia. the inflation figure, for february was published, it came in at 9.1 5%, that's up from eight point 73 since january. keep in, mind invasion was really only on the 24th of february. this is the period of running up to the invasion of ukraine. some big, big price increases within that. this is in february, this is before sanctions were really, really applied. the price of sugar rose by some 20% during the month, the price of cereals including buckwheat, that rose by 18%, and the biggest single element in the inflation basket during february, was construction materials. items such as wallpaper, that rose by nearly 23%. the indication is that a lot of relegation projects were really been rushed through in russia, ahead of the invasion and the expected western sanctions that followed. you recall of, course on monday last week, the central bank of russia raised interest rates from nine and a half percent to 20%. basically to try to stop that run on the ruble, but it really gives you a flavor of the kind of pain that ordinary russians are going to be going through, as sanctions intensify. overnight the roll call of western companies that are boycotting russia, they're pulling out of russia or suspending business in russia, has continued to increase. rio tinto has become the world's first big mining company to sever its ties with russia. joining measures with russian players, and a lot of big japanese players overnight have also suspended russian operations. for example, he taji, the industrial goods conglomerate. folks have heard from sonia nintendo, the entertainment companies. sony of course music, films, and computer, games they pulled the plug on russia for now. we've also heard overnight, very interesting ali, from carl's bergh. this is one of the big western bureau years, with a lot of interest in russia. some 30% of carles burgers sales come from russia. it's a very big big market for carl's, bergdorf said they're reviewing their operations, and their share prices come off by some 4% in copenhagen. interestingly, those operations used to be run by scottish and newcastle, a british company, which was bought by carles bergen ionic him back in 2008. a lot of american companies are already pulling the plug overnight, and hear the tractor maker among them. >> okay, thanks very much ian, thank you. well the humanitarian situation in ukraine is a very quickly deteriorating. the mayor of -- house this morning said that two hospitals in the city have been damaged in a russian air strikes a day after maternity hospital in mariupol was hit. the international committee of the red cross is joining us now, hello to you, thank you for joining us on the program this morning. what do we know about what has happened overnight with the maternity hospital in mariupol? >> well, thanks for having me. it has been two weeks, the population in mariupol is facing terrible humanitarian situation. so we talked to -- and their stance was, there is no food, there's no, water they are struggling. a lot of people are getting sick because of cold, humidity, shops shops have been looted, -- there the whole population is struggling to survive at the moment. >> these humanitarian corridors that we are hearing about, what are you hearing on the ground, how effective are they? >> what i can tell you is that sunday, you were already for instance -- what happened was that soon after there was some fighting that occurred, so there was no safe passage for the population, no safe passage for kids, and those safe supply to get -- supplies in the city as well. so this is where we stand. >> international red cross is there when many countries need them the most, have you seen situations like this before? >> well, when we crossed the border for the first time, i saw something that i never saw before her to be honest. i saw people absolutely everywhere, women with children, babies, lines of cars, a group of teenagers with a tiny dog, they were freezing and waiting for transportation. all those people trying to flee in all directions and this is what you see absolutely everywhere in the country. so it is impossible to do comparisons with other situations, but what we are witnessing here is a catastrophe. >> yeah, thank you for taking the time to join us, such great work that you and your organization do. please do to keep in touch with us and let us know if there's anything we can do to help. >> thank, you kate, who >> thank you. the blood -- millions could that if the world does not stop russian bombing. the ukrainian mp if anna -- has a letter to the u.s. president joe biden and who enforce a no fly zone over the country. she is with us. hello, thank you for joining us. from everything we're hearing, there's no fly zone is not going to happen. if it doesn't, what does that mean to the people of ukraine? >> well, first and foremost, we have to understand that we all didn't believe many things that are happening already with changing, shifting of the policies of western countries towards russia, and towards aid to ukraine are happening today's. so i am sure that a no-fly zone is also going to happen. the problem is, the delay with it and it's implementation. we are asking for a no-fly zone, at least till -- nuclear power stations, at least till cultural sites so we can continue defending our country. and otherwise, ukraine will be wiped out just erased from the map of the world by the russian federation. that is what they are doing at this particular moment. they are shelling, bombarding, and pounding our cities. they are killing civilians, they are carrying out war crimes and crimes against humanity all across the country. that has to be stopd. ukrainians have the resolve and courage to fight back, but we need serious reinforcement with air defense, with some military capacity, with protective gear for our soldiers and our defense. and also, we need planes and we need no fly zone over at least parts of the country so that people can get to safe refuge from those areas where the bombing is happening. >> do you understand, nato's point of view that they are reluctant to put that no-fly zone in place because of a risk of an escalation and widening of the conflict. what happens if a russian jet breach is the no fly zone, what happens then? that plane gets shut down by a western country, and as a result the war escalates further. do you accept that? >> well we have to understand that we are making yet another disastrous miscalculation in this particular moment. the war against the west has started, it has been started. but -- if ukraine falls, if ukraine fails to protect itself, then the west will fail to help us with this, then the war will unfortunately spill over further. just listen attentively to what britain was saying, talking about nato borders of 1997 and he is serious about this so that means that central eastern northern european countries are under attack as much as we are under attack at this particular moment. so that is why the action is required, and nobody should be afraid of a solution because at this particular moment if it is not stop, if the dictator is not stopped here, he will further attack the free world. and so whatever can be done in our common ability to stop him here, i think should be done today. >> what's putin's endgame? >> i just wonder what putin's endgame is in your opinion? >> put it and game is not -- what is endgame is international order where he is dictating, he is demanding his way of understanding why should be done, and he wants to rule the world, and he wants to ensure that he is governing the new world? he is listen to and adhere to. we cannot allow this to happen. this is a criminal who has to face justice and be -- along with all those people who are carrying out his orders and killing innocent civilians today because of the ukrainian territory. >> keep safe, keep well, thank you for taking the time to join us. over 180 maple city council including three people including one child have been killed on an attack on a maternity auspices there. the armed forces say this was a war crime. we have pictures of course of those bombings, it happened yesterday afternoon. several women heavenly -- impossible at the time seen as the safest place in any city for this under attack. it is not acceptable for the hospital. it is targeted during any war, it is considered a war crime. it looks as though putin and his henchmen did it anyways, and we have just been hearing from the british government this morning, they say it is certainly a war crime and as mostly british government is concerned, they expect it to be prosecuted as such. we also spoke to -- 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