We heard from the brother of usaamah rahim, who adamantly a couple of days ago stated his mother was shot in the back. That appears to have been disproven by the video by a business nearby. But i dont think we have a good idea of what were going to hear today from the family. So you refer to the video and that seems to be a sort of argument or debate over what actually is captured on it. We hear that Community Leaders have seen it as of what we know right now, the family has not. Is that right . Yeah. I know we know whether or not the family has seen it or theyre coming after just having seen it. This is something Suffolk County district has done in recent memory in boston. There was a gentleman who shot pointblank a Police Officer a month or two ago. And they did take the same approach. I think its a transparent approach and its an approach specifically designed to put the community at ease and not spark an outcry. So it appears thats what theyre doing now and they did the same thing then by showing the video to the family and members first, then to the media. Can you tell us about the community . Specifically rozlyn dale. For those who dont know boston can you give us a general profile of the area . Its actually not a town. Its a neighborhood within the city of boston. Its a pretty mixed community. I would say largely kind of middle class Blue Collar Community with sort of areas that are pretty gentrified but its not at all considered a dangerous community. It actually happens to be the part of boston in which i live several blocks away. So, you know i think its as surprising as it would be in any Boston Community that this happened here. Its certainly not something that the residents of rozlyndale would expect. We know the press conference is due to start any minute now. What effect is this having in boston . We just heard that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is receiving the death penalty. How is the community at large reacting to all of this . Yeah i mean look. I think like anything, its a little hard to tell from a reporters perspective, the extent to which people are aware of this. I think its as though we were sort of breathing out after a couple of years of holding it in. Boston is not a city that sort of has an expectation of this i think, in the way that new york does. Yeah, to have Something Like this happen on the heels of tying up the ends of the tsarnaev trial is jarring. I think the question is, you know, whats next . You know, is this just the way things are going to be . Or not . Hilary sergeant with boston. Com. Thank you for your time. Columnist from the daily beast. Dean obadala. This involves the threat of decapitation of Pamela Geller as avowed antiislamist. And a radicalized violent extremist. I wonder how do we react to this . Story . I think we should put it in context. You have, you know, two men in boston now who are apparently radicalized from what we see, from whats online the postings with the fbi intercepted in their phone calls. I think we have to understand, isis is trying to recruit muslims. Daily. Hourly, almost. They use different sales pitches, interviewed several experts for the daily beast. Its very very it concerns me as a muslim that they are being affected. The Muslim Community has to stand united against isis. Because isis wants to pick off our brothers and sisters to kill themselves or to die. And make the lives and killings of people and cause a backlash to our community. Innocent muslims. You want us to focus on isis and not lets say, i mean Pamela Geller in all of this. To call Pamela Geller antiislamist, shes an antimuslim activist who made racist comments. She is doctored to make her look like a nazi. She is called Health Care Reform an act of national rape. Shes a condescendial figure. She said they want to behead me because of cartoons. React to that. I saw that and i thought, well, yeah. Its a cartoon. But we know and have known for a very long time that cartoon depictions of the prophet mohammed are incendiary. Why would you go out of your way to insult a religion people . And, you know, she drives me crazy in the way that i think shes a very uncomfortable person to find herself weirdly defending or not. No, no, no. Or prosecuting. I am not defending Pamela Geller one bit. I think what she did was harmful, it was dangerous, and shes playing games with peoples lives here. Not just the people she put in harms way by doing this a few weeks ago, but, you know, were talking about a situation here where you have the United States thats trying to fight all these battles in the middle east at war and covertly and its coming here as were seeing what were talking about in boston. And already, the department of Homeland Security is worried about lone wolfves and things like that. Pamela geller all you need is to have her do something she did, saying on the set were just talking about cartoons to being something infinitely more let me bring in the director of the penn america center. Thank you for joining us. You come in at a perfect time in the conversation. Which is do we need to defend Pamela Geller . We need to defend her right to speak, to depict to publish cartoons showcase cartoon. I dont think we need to defend her motives, necessarily, her tone, her tenor, the broad brush that she draws, often being heard to target all muslims. Whether she intends to or not. I think thats where it becomes offensive, where its labeled hate speech by the southern poverty law center. We dont need to defend that. You can defend one part but not the other . If youre offering a defense, youre offering a defense. Context of course matters, but at the end of the day, youre basically saying yes, we need to defend Pamela Geller. I do. I think she has the right to depict cartoons of the prophet mohammed. Is it something i would do personally . No. But does she have the right to do it in the United States . Yes. Is it important to defend those outer bounds of free speech . For good reason. We dont want to go out there. She does go out there and i think it is important that territory be defended. The fact that some people are willing to use guns and violence to narrow the terrain for free speech, thats something we have to reject. How do you react . You are a muslim american. These men, the guys and girls in texas killed trying to go in and these two here especially the one killed they were not at home saying i cant believe you drew the prophet mohammed. Im going to go out there. The guys in texas had already pled guilty to lying to the fbi. But they wanted to decapitate Pamela Geller because of what she was doing. For what she was doing but they would have tried to kill policemen at the same time. These want press and attention for their grievances. I think she has a right to draw. Defending the right for americans the freedom of expression and defending Pamela Geller is two different things. Defend a right to speak horrible things but not giving a free pass to the clan leader. We can defend her right to do it. I defend her right to free speech but i have the right to condemn her vigorously and frequently as possible. Theres another aspect to this, sort of complicating things which is Glen Greenwald and others have criticized the media for being less skeptical of killing like the one in boston if the suspect is muslim. We sort of accept that the police were doing it for the right reasons, whereas were not much skeptical when its not a muslim. And tweets 14 years after 9 11 Law Enforcement can kill someone in the street suggest they were part of a quote, terrorist network, and the media will just move on. I wonder if you think thats fair. I think the outreach the fact Community Leaders saw the video and said look we agree with the police generally in terms of the description of events. Do you feel like this do you think, like, the killing of Muslim Americans is different than black americans . Wow. Well, given what you just said not in this particular case. But i do as an africanamerican, am sensitive to depictions of Police Action when it comes to communities of color. And how the presumption is always if the person who is dead in the street is africanamerican or fill in the blank person of color, the presumption is that the Law Enforcement did the right thing. Very sensitive to that. When the Community Comes out and says, hey, look. Weve got video tape. We saw what happened. I feel better about whats being said. Like you said before to suzanne, context does matter here. Just briefly, the police treat differently muslims who might commit a crime versus nonmuslims who might be involved in horrific acts. Two weeks ago, a guy charged by the fbi for plotting to go to new york state. Slaughter muslims. I beg people to cover this story. They didnt go up there with guns. I would also say for a terrorist network, is that two people or one. We have to leave it there. Hang with me. After the break, rick perry 2. 0. Governor oops. Asks america for a second chance. Plus, Hillary Clinton laufrmgnching on offensive on the Voting Rights. Can a business have a mind . A subconscious. A knack for predicting the future. Reflexes faster than the speed of thought. Can a business have a spirit . Can a business have a soul . Can a business be. Alive . Youve heard of a winwin, right . What about a winwinwin . Pick up the limited edition metallic droid turbo by motorola. Waterrepellent. 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I like to vote hang me if you want love me if you can that really happened. And then rick perry called rand pauls favorite band, chum chumbawumba. Our people always move forward. We will do it again. Alas maybe it was the incredible heat in that airplane hangar. The sweat pouring off everyone on stage. The candidate himself sweating through his shirt. But rick perry could not make it through his speech without flubbing a key line about his president ial intentions. There is nothing wrong in America Today that a change in leadership will not make happen. Rick we missed you, and while rick perry tries to reboot, jeb bush is not unintentionally stealing a Little Thunder saying hell announce on june 15th. Six months when he was actively exploring a president ial bid. Hillary clinton is boldly on to texas turf. Speaking right now in houston where shes expected to call for expanded Voting Rights under threat in the lone star state. Professor katrina beltran, and editor in chief of the texas tribune, evan smith. Before we start this conversation, i apologize to you all. We have to go now to a press conference for the terror suspect killed earlier this week. Just started speaking. Lets listen in. I think its reckless they would be out here in the parking lot shooting. On the part of the officers. I think it was foolish on the part of the young men, if he did wield the knife, it was very foolish. My name is abdullah farouq. Im very concerned for our Public Safety. Our Public Safety. As i saw in the film the other day, there was a school bus going by. In the morning, 7 00 in the morning. A school bus. And it was a yellow car. It was 7 15 in the morning. Thats when the children go back and forth to school. I think their approach was very reckless and led to the young mans death. I think the young man might have put his head in the jar of a lion and got it crushed. The family is trying to arrange for his burial arrangements, which were hoping it will be tomorrow. And they just called me and said, was i here yet . Said i was struggling to get here. So many things to do. Forgive me for being late. We heard from rahim, after he previously made statements of the video. He emotionally responded to the information he received. He heard about a young black man, its not unheard of he would be shot in the back in america. Its a crime of racism. Im not saying america is racist, but there are still elements of racism in this country and i think we have to be careful if were going to uncover what is real and good about this situation. Something real and good. And then we need to uncover what the young man did. How much he said. What were the circumstances . I heard today that they were surveying him or surveilling him for some three years. And that for the last few weeks, theyve been surveilling him and the surveillance going off 24 7. Where did you hear that sir . My wife said she heard it on some news report. Im not sure how definite that is. But we do know he was being, there was surveillance going on. And if they considered him as a very dangerous person that means if they consider him a dangerous person they should take precautions in approaching him. I would. I wouldnt approach a wild animal or anything i thought was dangerous without being fully prepared. Especially if i wanted to capture and keep him alive. So i dont think that their intent was to capture him and keep him alive. What are we going to do . The boy is gone. We have to move on. We have to find out more and i think if the Boston Police department and the fbi do some more thorough investigation, they said they will call for transparency. Im looking for the transparency. I just want to know who orchestrated this incident. I mean i know that they can play for capturing. Wild animals, or anything. I think it was poorly constructed and i thought it was ill conceived. I thought it was reckless. I understand the family wants to see the video. Now being arraigned. Im hoping so and hoping we can bring some closure to the family. I asked that god overlook the shortcomings of the people who continue to exist that murder the young man. I know that they probably didnt want that. Thats what they intended in their hearts. But shoot at the Critical Mass and an open space with cars going by and a school bus actually in the video. Did you see the video . No. We havent seen it. Theres a school bus that actually goes around the turn. Just right along the time that they were firing on him. So i mean thats a very dangerous thing. If theyre concerned with Public Safety then Public Safety needs to be considered for all of us. I mean he hadnt killed anybody. You know . His tongue was wagging, as i understood. Saying things that are inappropriate. That doesnt warrant killing someone. [ [ inaudible question ] i think that would help bring closure to the matter. The film was not definitive. Its not clear as to what transpired. But it does show interaction between that was a press conference out of boston on the terror suspect, usaamah rahim. According to Law Enforcement officials, rahim was planning to kill and behead Police Officers. Lets now go back to politics. Hillary clinton is speaking in texas right now where hes expected to address Voting Rights. I believe we still have evan smith. Evan are you there live from us . In texas. I think when you hear the word texas and politics, you dont necessarily think Hillary Clinton. And i wonder if you can tell us how much of an appetite there is in the state of texas, the lone star state, for the kind of progressive politics that Hillary Clinton has been espousing lately on the campaign trail. Alex remember no democrat has been elected statewide in more than 20 years in texas. This is not a place where democrats have found much success running for president. But Hillary Clinton has roots that go back to the campaign which she coshared in texas back in 1972. She and her husband have friends in texas. She won the primary in texas in 2008. And i think that shell be popular here as far as it goes. As far as it goes. The reality is nobody expects this state to be a democratic stronghold or even competitive in the next election. So shell get a listen but thats pretty much it. Kristina i think its really interesting hillary is down there talking about Voting Rights. All americans, but especially americans of color. Shes talking about a path to citizenship for the undocumented here in america. Shes talking about criminal justice reform. All of these issues are really important for young people and voters of color. And this seems to be a huge part of her early strategy. Its clear shes trying to reach out to those communities. Texas has a huge latino population. Theres just nothing sadder than being a blue voter living in texas. Youre in austin and got nothing. So i think having her there will galvanize a certain population of folks. But i think its great shes talking about Voting Rights. We dont have a voting fraud problem, a voting participation. Most are spectators to politics and democracy right now. The fact shes actually pushing on this issue, its a galvanize galvanizing issue. Its politically expedient and incredible important to our democracy. You talk about the clinton coalition. Weve talked about this before. Everybody describes as White Working Class voters. These are not their bread and butter issues. These are issues for the Obama Coalition which shes clearly trying to get under her wing. One problem democrats have in a place like texas is that the standard the well known personalities dont go there because she cant win. Shes going there before it gets hot and heavy. Start the process of getting people involved. Its good for her party longterm if she goes down there and gets the excitement going and democrats in elections there. But you cant get it started if democrats stay away from the states forever. Its helpful to her coalition and her party in a short and longterm. But her her going to texas shows shes not afraid to take the bite to the gop. She won the primary in 2008 but no democrat on a national stiktticket has won that state. By going to texas, the most restrictive Voting Rights laws in the country. By going to texas to talk about Voting Rights or immigration is a big issue down there, particularly for democrats, and its a problem for republicans. Shes basically saying bring it. Not it shall of Voting Rights. Something theyre going to have to defend cristina. Not a place any republican candidate wants to be. Its going to be a hard conversation for them to have. I hope she pushes on that fundamentally, i think that theres a part of the gop that doesnt think that working class people, low income people of color, young people are really legitimate voters. Their participation is kind of by definition suspect. I think trying to force them to address that is going to be really useful. Theres something powerful about doing that. Jonathans point about taking it to the gop, theres a lot of contested territory in texas right now. I mean you have hillary and rick perry. You also kind of have i dont know if you guys in texas read this the same way, jeb bush announcing today hes going to announce in a couple of weeks sort of walking over rick perrys announcement, at least with some parts of the national media. The reality, we have five people who grew up in texas, and a whole bunch more not born here as the bumper stickers say but got here as fast as they could. Texas is going to be a competitive state in the republican primary for the first time in a long time. Its early enough. Its already an atm state. People with sex along the ground to collect money but honestly theres not a single candidate including the texans and ted cruz and rick perry who has this state locked up for certain. Of course, everyone will come to texas. This is only the beginning. I need to talk about rick perry. Im not letting this until we play this sound of rick perry what could be called his campaign mantra. Lets take a listen. We need a president who bridges the partisan divide. Who brings people together. We must do right. And risk the consequences. Okay. Wait. Nick, we must do right and risk the consequences . Isnt that sort of what george w. Bush the case he made over the 8 years of his presidency and i think people are tired of the message. It stuns me thats his campaign slogan. Do right and risk the consequences. Im not impressed with any of the Campaign Slogans so far. This one, when youre surrounded by military veterans and youre sort of alluding to Foreign Policy and say risk the consequences i just feel like maybe thats not so good. But rick perry on paper has always been such a strong candidate for the presidency. He has a perfect resume. But the execution is always a little shaky. A little . Nick youre being very generous. I think these words, risk consequences. Might want to say indicted. Another possible felony. The only smart thing rick perry did in 2012 was the fact he supported the texas version of the dream act. And then ran as far as possible when mitt romney. I think hes embarrassed in 2012 but this will give an opportunity to play every clip over and over and over. Some of the worst people to take that opportunity. Evan smith, nick con fefessore. Did they clear the family name or did they dig themselves even deeper . More on that coming up next. 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Why would the duggars launch a Reality Tv Show in 2008 preaching the pornlsimportance of family values with a family secret . We have taken that years ago and when they asked us all this had been taken care of five years before and we had a clean bill of health from the state. Said youve gone through counselling. Told the police. I dont know we lived in fear because we had all resolved it. It had been forgiven. We had moved on with life. Host of person, place, thing. Ethicist randy cohen. What do you make . Its hard to be amusing about child abuse. You know its theres a favorite part. Joshs defense, they were asleep. They actually repeated that several times. It was over the clothes, just for a few seconds. I understand. You could abuse people when theyre asleep . Thats okay. If you give them some sort of date rape drug . That would be okay. A curious defense. When i heard that cristina did it actually exacerbate the case to have his parents out there saying you know kind of wasnt that big of a deal. Yeah conscious of that moment. I mean what i think is funny is until this thing happened, i had no idea this christian purity cult had this. It was like and counting. But now i think it would be interesting because i think theres an enormous deep misogyny in the culture this show is portraying and one thing we dont talk about, sexual abuse mostly happens in families. Its not stranger danger. Its in families. So talking about it and watching, thinking about how the family is coping is an interesting moment to maybe, i want to watch now to go whats the story . You can watch reruns. You want to look back and say, what happened . That is being litigated in the court of public opinion, jonathan. Especially the Lgbt Community and the things theyve said about them and the idea, megyn kelly asked them how can you call others sinners when you sin . Of course they do. Thats what folks on the far, far religious right do. You sinners over there, youre horrible people. But if we get caught doing something that is well, illegal and immoral, its not a big deal. What was so offensive about the clips that you showed was this attitude of, not a big deal. Nothing to see here. That was just taken care of five years ago. Weve got a clean bill of health. Im sorry. The reason their show is off the air and why were talking about them and they have to sit with megyn kelly for this hour long confessional is because they dont have a clean bill of health. What theyve done what did you call it the christian purity cult . This is what happens when you try to make yourself holier than thousand literally better than everyone else. Describe girls who have been sexually active as like a bowl full of spit or a bicycle thats been ridden or ruined by other people. Thats the logic those girls are growing up in after theyve been sexually abused. Randy, ethically, back to one of the things you excel at but you know they said at one point, as parents, youre not mandatory reporters. They were asked by megyn kelly, this went on three years before you dealt with it out of house. They did talk to a state trooper whos a pal at the east car lot. That was three years after they first found out. These are all questions. As a legal matter im not a lawyer. But parents are not mandatory. But ethical. Ethical matter if you think someone is going to do imminent serious harm to another person you have an absolute obligation to act. They say in the interview they took precalls for a conclusion conclusion conclusion, precautions. Presumably presumably, a door lock. If you have to install some kind of precautionary, you know, a lock or whatever so that your son does not molest your daughters, somethings wrong in the house. And you need to seek outside help. Absolutely. I should also say, if you cant enjoy the down fall of a hypocrite, i dont want to have turns with you. Its so american. Like our fiction for years and years. Explain to the young people who Tammy Lee Baker was. There you go. This is a regular part of american life. There is the victim question too. There is the question about, you know, two of the sisters took to the air waves yesterday and defended their brother and said it wasnt really anything and serious as the media has cracked it up to be. The father and mother both blamed generally the media for blowing this out of proportion and said that there are people who are purposefully trying to bring things out to twist and hurt and slander. The media did not name any of the victims here. In touch leaked this and the rest of the media i think has been careful to not name names or ages until this particular moment. Because children are involved. Minors are involved. These are people who were minors at the time. Great care and caution over these people whose own parents, for i dont know what they did to try to protect the precautions they took to keep josh from doing the horrible things to them. And were dynamic of the fact, this is a family that decided to put their family after this kind of trauma and then brand their family. And have their children im curious, about 20 years from now, how do you manage what youve been through and have to kind of protect your familys brand name and economic survival on kind of silencing the violence done to you . Thats the whole scary dynamic thats going to play out in that family for a long time after we stop caring. We will move on to other totally different but also questionable choices. Yesterday, former rhode island governor and senator Lincoln Chaffe. He said america should convert to the metric system. Lets be bold. Heres a bold embrace of internationalism. Lets join the rest of the world and go metric. Believe me. Its easy. Only myanmar, liberia, and the United States arent metric. And it will help our economy. I mean as a half burmese person i take that myanmar dig quite seriously. The Vice President of the u. S. Metric association was told Lincoln Chaffe made this proposal was who, and then added, oh my gosh. So is this a bold proposal . Is that what america needs, randy . We should be metric. This is what i like. The defense of lincolns idea. Of course we should be metric. Its comical because its a rather small issue in the scheme of things. Rather. We want to make fun of him as a long shot candidate but i think theres more interesting things about him. He started out as a liberal republican. Explain to the young people what that is, its like a rotary phone. And then becomes an independent and then becomes a democrat. Whats interesting, he hasnt changed. I like Lincoln Chaffe because he shows how the country moved so far to the right. Hes a living time line. Hes the rockefeller republican. Hillary clinton is the same politics except she was for the iraq war. Which is going to be a problem. I think thats pretty great. What are we a wing of fox news or lets find something trivial. Okay i dont think anybody has ever accused this show of being a wing of fox news. One thing to keep in mind when i first heard the clip my bold idea the metric system it seemed trivial. But it also, its worthwhile idea but took me back to when Tommy Thompson. A lot of Tommy Thompson name checks today. Former governor of wisconsin, i believe he was hhs secretary. His big idea when he came into the Washington Post Editorial Board was medical ship diplomacy. Send them to places that were being run over by epidemics and plagues and things like that because it would improve americas name around the world. Its one of the soft diplomacy and saying hey, that makes a lot of sense. He went nowhere. That tells me that Tommy Thompson and Lincoln Chaffe have no friends. Their friends would say its a bad idea. Millimeters and sentcentimeters. Well taken. I have a rotary phone at home. Theyre fabulous. So harsher at the ad council. Did he do a good ad . We have plenty of time to talk about Lincoln Chaffe and why thats a problem in forthcoming segments but we focus on the trivial. Thank you all for your time. Coming up the fifa Corruption Scandal is about to get messy. Really, really messy. Well explain just ahead. Audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. The only thing left to fear is you imagination. Nissan. Innovation that excites. Mmmmmm yoplait good news everybody there is now 25 less sugar in yoplait original. Say adieu to that sugar. Because it still tastes good yoplait when i started at the shelter, no one wanted benny. So i adopted him. Hes older so he needs my help all day. When my back pain flared up i was afraid i would have to give him away. 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Joining me now, World Champion soccer enthusiast and contributing writer a victory on the saga of football in the age of corruption. Dun dun dun. All right. This is lets talk about cutter. And russia to that degree. 2022 world cup. Is there a likely chance it will not be in cutter . I think its probably not going to happen. You do . Its not going to happen. Its going to go somewhere else. I think most of the world doesnt want it there and logistically, people realize its not even despite all the worker deaths that have happened there, its not even a good place to hold the world cup. It wont happen. To my question, pete, if cuttercut qatar is taking down does russia have to rethink the fact its hosting the world cup . I think the chances are slim because the infrastructure exists. And putin isnt going to its super dangerous to take it away from putin at this point. Putin has said about americas pursuit of this corruption, even if someone has done something wrong, russia has nothing to do with it. You just got back from ukraine. I mean. Sounds like what he said about the ukraine, to be honest. Hes got his proxies, you know, operating for him supposedly, that way he doesnt have to shoulder the personal responsibility. With soccer whats really interesting with this particular investigation is that for the first time soccer is playing a major role in this sort of reinvigorated cold war. Not good news for soccer fans. I think its great news. Like a renewed interest in fifa. It is the world games. Its the biggest game in the world. The olympics, the world cup. Basically is, you know, war. I dont think russias troops they went into ukraine. Europe did nothing about it. We did nothing about it. I dont think with the soccer game, all of the sudden were going to. The english today offered to host the 2022 cup. They said, you know if necessary, they could do it. Gracious. Well take that beauty. Like a beauty contestant and the runnerup said ill wear the sash if you need me to wear the crown. England does have the infrastructure, dont they . They do. Most of the worker deaths were talking about are from infrastructure. In qatar. The stadiums arent in any stage of completion. So england has all those things of course because its the home. They havent hosted it i dont think since 1960 1960something. Heres a question. Is there a chance that the corruption extends to the field itself . I mean you hear about the amount of money, they might be throwing political elections, are we going to have to revisit games . This saturday is a great example of how surprisingly that on field corruption could reach to the highest level. This saturday i know youre a big fan, but they were relegated to a lower league because they cheated. There was match fixing in the Italian League and they were involved. Lets not talk of the italians again. Ill just say that. Part of my web site i have. Savethebeautifulgame. Org is about changing the referee system and putting pressure on fifa. Not just fifa im just calling it the f word. But do you think thats likely were going to sort of revisit the sort of ref system . I think probably constantly going on on some level. Theres a few on the field but really only one in charge and two goalkeepers. Its very easy to fix something. Very easy. It happens in small leagues around the world all the time. I didnt wear my beard today. I should have. But my bearded friends. Well do that on a forthcoming segment. Judeh friedelaender. Thank you. Audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. The only thing left to fear is you imagination. Nissan. Innovation that excites. When youre living with diabetes steady is exciting. 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