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Recep. A double play ends the game and sends the orioles to the next round. And a ground ball to third. Flaherty, second base. The turn. In time. The Baltimore Orioles sweep the tigers. The os next stop, baltimore. The royals will play in the American League championship series. All right. Mika, your dance worked. It did. This is my daughters team. The orioles. She goes to hopkins. Its baltimore. Thats the royals. Oh. The orioles. But your dance but willie geist, the kansas city royals, they are an extraordinary story. Unbelievable. And the fact that they swept the angels is just kind of mind blowing. Angels had the best record in baseball this year, dominated their division, dominated the American League. The royals had to fight in, won a onegame playoff in extra innings to get in and sweep the best team in baseball, perhaps, in los angeles and move on. How cool is this alcs. Feels like its 1985 when you have the orioles and royals, going to be playing in baltimore on friday. Im going to baltimore friday. The game there is. Thomas. I usually hate him for giving the cookies. Hate him for a lot of reasons. Youre just a hater. But im so excited. The dance worked. The dance whats the dance. Would you like to recreate the dance. Only when thomas starts singing magic magic magic. Its a very dance. Worst dancer ive seen in my life. My teenagers will never be the same. It worked. The tigers getting swept. I hated to see that. We have a put that back up there. So weve got a quite a lineup. Oh, yes. So the nationals, willie, a lot of weeping and nashing of teeth in washington, d. C. , sunday morning, over the longest game in playoff history. 16 innings was it or 18 innings . 18 innings. Six hours and change. Theyre in trouble now. They have to go to San Francisco and play there. Theyre in big trouble. Looks like the series to be watching right now is going to be the dodgers and the cardinals. Its monday, october 6th. A lot to talk about beyond baseball. Political right Nick Confessore with us. And we will start on the set with the Ebola Outbreak and just a few hours, another american who tested positive for ebola will arrive at Nebraska Medical Center in omaha. Ashoka mukpo the nbc free lance cameraman working with dr. Nancy snyderman in africa will be treated by dozens of specialist. The fifth american to be diagnosed with the virus. In dallas the man who the cdc says slipped by screeners into the u. S. Is fighting for his life. Eric Thomas Duncan is in Critical Condition and family members say he is on a respirator. Reporters on the ground following both caseses. John yang live at the Nebraska Medical Center and mark potter outside the Texas Health Presbyterian hospital. Well start with john, ashoka mukpo is set to arrive today. What can you tell us about how the hospital is getting ready and what his condition is . They are ready, mika. There is is a biocontainment unit, one of the biggest Isolation Unit in america, ten beds awaiting him, about 40 medical personnel will be treating him. Hes on his final leg here after a brief stop in bangor, maine, to repul and go through the formality of u. S. Customs. Once he lands at omaha, he will land at the main airport here, eply field. The plane will taxi off to a remote part of the airport. Hell be loaded into an ambulance for the quick 15minute drive here. This is a part of the airport where hell encounter no public. Its not a part of the airport where the general public would be. Hell be wearing a protective suit covered head to toe. No part of his body exposed so that hell be completely covered and then once he gets here they will be evaluating him here at the hospital in the biocontainment unit. About 40 medical personnel, people actually volunteering to treat him for ebolap. Mika . All right. Thanks very much for that. Well get to mark potter in a minute for the apparently worsening condition of the other patient. Meanwhile the outbreak in africa is getting worse by the day. According to the latest statistics by the World Health Organization the death toll stands at over 3400 with over 7,000 recorded cases, but the actual number is likely to be worse. The country of sierra leone had its worst day since the outbreak began, recording 121 deaths in a single day. And the growing crisis is bringing attention to the initial response by the international community. A top official at the World Health Organization tells the Washington Post the group may have waited too long to respond to the outbreak. It took the who 4. 5 months to declare a Global Health emergency and by that time it was too late. Joining us from london, professor of Infectious Disease at the London School of hygiene and tropical med crin dr. David heymann, who is a former World Health Organization official who investigated the first Ebola Outbreak back in 1976. Its good to have you this morning. Dr. Hayman, obviously a blistering report in the Washington Post yesterday about a lot of missed signals starting last spring, a moment at the end of july where the head of Doctors Without Borders was begging the World Health Organization to step up and declare this an international emergency. And she was called overly pessimist pessimistic. Why so many missed signals in this outbreak . Its really not clear why this outbreak wasnt dealt with earlier, but its also clear that if it is dealt with in a rural area where theres Better Community organization, village chiefs, village elders, they can help with the response. It got out of a rural area, unlike the 25 previous outbreaks that were stopped in rural areas, and now its in an urban area. So what can what should the United States be doing . What should the World Community be doing right now to slow the rapid spread of this disease down in west africa . And are they doing it . Most important is the three principles that have stopped outbreaks in the past. Thats finding an and a isolating patients and when theyre isolated Health Workers dont get infected. Tracing contacts with those that have been in contact with the patient. Checking their temperature twice daily for three weeks. If they get sick, diagnosing if its ebola, putting them in the hospital. The third is making sure that the community understands how to prevent infection and that there are ways to bury dead bodies and take care of those that are sick. This is whats required. I guess i want to know what your concern level is about whether or not that can happen in africa and as it per tape ta the u. S. Weve been hearing medical Officials Say theres a certain drug to treat ebola and its very limited in supply and im confused as to how we can be so sure it can be contained and that we have the ability and that everything is going to be okay if there arent enough drugs to treat it . Well, there certainly arent any drugs to treat it. Thats clear. The outbreak must be stopped by the traditional means that we just spoke about. Isolating patients, tracing contacts, making sure that people with fever are diagnosed and community understanding. Very, very difficult in urban areas in africa. But there are some hopes. There are some remedies that could be tried which might be sustainable. For example, the blood of people who have survived from ebola contains antibodies. If those antibodies can be collected and provided to patients who are still sick, it may be that it can decrease the virus in their blood and actually make them better. Hopefully thats what will happen and these are some of the things that need to be studied. Antiviral drugs are present, but theyre not in such a supply that they could be tried at present. Dr. David heymann, thank you very much. A couple Unanswered Questions about how its being dealt with here in the u. S. That dont add up in terms of the drugs there are to treat it and how people are getting it. We had a fascinating discussion yesterday on meet the press. I saw that. Fantastic. You had David Axelrod and gen eiffel on the side of im sorry, ill say it, theyre like the cop in the simpsons. Whos the cop . Come on. David will be here. Chief wigham. Pretty good. Things will be blowing up. Everything is flooding. He goes, nothing to see here. That is not. But there are so many Unanswered Questions. Yeah. You had yesterday, david jumped me because i simply quoted the doctor that got ebola and came back to the United States who talked about what a horrible situation it was and right now youve got the government saying dont worry about it. Nothing to dont panic. If you ask any tough questions, suddenly youre panicking. Chuck todd brought up a great point yesterday, you look at all the scandals over the past 18 months, willie, whens the government says dont worry about it, we have it taken care of. Forget about barack obama, go back to impeachment, the 2000, iraq, abu ghraib, the housing bubble generated by government policy, the irs, va, nsa wire tapping, james rosen, the federal government telling us to not ask tough questions and not to worry about it is a problem. If you read the washington post, it is very clear theyve been downplaying this from the very beginning. I dont think americans are going to sit back and go, its cool. The governments got it taken care of. I dont believe the government has it taken care of. Why trust the government on something this important . I think they have to prove to us they have it taken care of. The problem is they may be right in this case theres nothing to panic about but because of all the things youve listed over the two decades or so people dont instinctively trust what they hear from the government anymore. I think its true that United States is different from west africa. I think we have better implements in place to help contain this. As you say no one is going to take anything at face value. Its smart not to panic right now because listen, the way we handle things is very different from the way theyre capable of handling things in west africa. Do we, by raising questions, this is what bothered me yesterday, simply raising the questions that the Washington Post raised, about how the World Health Organization last spring said this is small, dont worry about it. This is small, and then the head of the World Health Organization, when this had already exploded, had the head of Doctors Without Borders coming saying pay more attention of this. The white house this is the one thing, i will tell you, you cant argue, they were completely on top of and sent assistance to africa because they saw it coming. Theyre talking about it. The only problem is, though they acted too. Nick, from all reports, the response right now, is too slow. We were talking about boots on the ground but its the same people, same governments that were saying about the africa crisis, dont worry about it, its going to be fine, right, and they were wrong then. Right. Are the same ones saying about the u. S. Version, dont worry, its going to be pine. As you were saying, willie, we have a Huge Public Health infrastructure here. By the way, can we add the World Health Organization and United Nations all government entities have failed us thus far. Why should we be confident theyve underestimated this. Why should we sit back and go, its cool. We need to be asking tough questions. No question about that. Right now in the u. S. You have a greater chance of being shot in the head than getting this ri sflus ebola. Theres some element of like do you want to create a panic, do you want people, you know, if they see someone sneezing in their Office Running home and going crazy. No, but we want to deal with flights coming in. That is important. By the way, most americans dont understand, i know all the smart guys, the smart women understand, why we continue to allow flights coming from west africa. I can tell you, im a regular guy. Im a simply country lawyer, willie. Youve seen me in court. You know. Very good. The whole bit. Most of us simple folk, we dont understand why you keep letting flights come into the United States unabated. They go, oh, it will stop the relief efforts. Really . Is there not a better way to make sure we can screen to make sure flights going over to west africa with relief workers are able to come back . I want us to declare war on ebola. I really do. Im not saying here like a lot of stooges that ive been reading, its their problem. No. Its our problem. Its the worlds problem. I dont understand why we cant take a tougher line on people flying into this country. Well, i think one of the other Health Stories that were going to get to in morning papers is on ep ter row virus 68, a child that died over the weekend . In new jersey. This story is creeping in under the radar compared to ebola. He went to sleep with mi a mika, he went to sleep without any symptoms at all. We will talk about that coming up. Still ahead on morning joe, a nation under medical alert. Not just ebola as i mentioned, the dangerous enterovirus has claimed its first death. A 4yearold boy as the flu season is about to get under way. The head of the cdc on how prepared the u. S. Is to handle these emergencies. A man tries to run, yes, run, around the Bermuda Triangle in a bubble. Its inflatable. Okay. The trip didnt go as he planned. Youre watching morning joe. What did he plan . I mean wait. What was he thinking was going to happen . Its monday, a brand new start. With centurylink visionary cloud infrastructure, and Custom Communications solutions, your business is more reliable, secure, and agile. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. I got this. [thinking] is it that time . The son picks up the check . [thinking] im still working. 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Weve got the head of the cdc coming on. We have a lot of questions for him about this as well as the ebola spread. The San Francisco chronicle one of silicon valleys Largest Companies will split into two. Hewlettpackard will reportedly divide its computer and printer business from its corporate hardware business. The company is trying to stay relevant as the pc market continues to change. Hp currently has more than 300,000 employees. Its on track to hit 112 billion in revenue this year. The San Diego Union tribune california voters will decide how to scale back prison population in the face of rising population and costs. A new measure would transform multpy nonviolent crimes punishable by brief jail time rather than long stays in a state prison. The measure entitled proposition 47 would apply retroactively lowering the penalties for thousands serving time. Voters will decide on the measure on november 4th. Willie, i think youre going to see this in one state after another, states, voters will look at criminalization of not just marijuana but other substances. Yeah. And possession itself of drugs that 20 years ago would have put you in jail for 20 years, i just think their xway going to say come on, enough is enough. If people want to do that to themselves let them but why should we pay for prison for 20 years. Look at the overcrowding and some of the sentences, if you are found and pulled over in your car in some states with marijuana you can go to jail for five or six years. I dont think most Common People or people of good sense think thats a good idea for anybody. Its insanity. The dale mail, japanese zoo knows why its attempt to get two high yeen nas to mate were males. This happened to me in high school and i couldnt figure it out. What are you talking about . I thought i was baaed. Hamsters. High yeen nis. No. They were high yeen nas in the backyard in a cage. They were married. It was my it was my science experiment for ninth, tenth, 11th and 12th grade. Flunked out of high school. Yeah. Zoo Officials Say they were told the pair were of opposite sex when they acquired the animals from a zoo in south korea. They couldnt check that out for four years. Cant they look . The pair slipped under. This prompted the zoo to conduct tests to determine the animals genders. Why do you have to conduct tests . Lift the legs up and could see. Wow. Okay. Oh. Dan just told me. What . He just told me. Its fairly hard to tell it. Its hard to tell on high yeen nas. Lets go to the miami herald the coast guard rescued a man trying to make his way to bermuda, i tried this in high school too in an inflatable bubble. The 42yearold was hoping to outline the bermuda to triangle back to miami in a bubble called hydro pod. You are you know what whats going on today. This guy deserveded to have the hydro pod pop and drown. Has a metal frame and allows the user to run. Hamster wheel. Similar to a hamster wheel. Officials say he activated his located beacon off the coast of florida after becoming disoriented due to extreme fatigue. Come on, man. Come on, dude come on. You should have figured that out on south beach. Imagine the planning meeting for that one. Thats what im thinking about. Hamster wheel through the Bermuda Triangle. Im just going to run. You guys are like a bunch of high yeen nas. Okay. Coming up, we have a lot of news to cover. Find out what kind of high yeen na we are. Exactly. A lot of news to cover as the ebola patient in dallas is fighting for his life. What precautionings are in place to prevent a larger outbreak . The cdcs director joins us next. Then after ben affleck goes after bill maher for his alleged gross and racist views, this was explosive. Well be right back with much more morning joe. So ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts . Thats right. Its just that im worried about you know hidden things. Ok, whys that . 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We have been sold this mean of islamophobia where every criticism of the doctrine of islam gets conflated with bigotry towards muslims as people. Right. That is intellectually hold on. Are you the person who understands the officially codified doctrine of islam . Youre the interpreter so you can say im well educated. If i criticize islamophobia is not a real thing. Im not denying certain are big gotted against muslims as people. Thats big of you. Why are you hostile about this concept . Its gross and racist. Its not. We have to be able to criticize bad ideas. Of course we do. But this moment is the mother load of bad ideas. Jesus. Thats just a fact. Its not a fact. Its an ugly thing. You dont understand americans. You know, black people, you know, they show up no, its not. Its based on facts. I can show you a pew poll of egyptians they are to the outliars in the muslim world that say like 90 believe death is the appropriate response to leaving religion. If 90 of brazilians thought death was the appropriate response to leaving catholicism you would think its a bigger deal. Im sorry, wheres ben affleck been for the bast 13, 14 years . Where has he been . Well i think this is i think this is a problem. The suggestion theres not a problem with radical islam not only, you know, across the world but here and then to somehow go to the other side and say youre attacking all muslims is just absolute insanity. If only there were somebody here that could speak eloquent lly o the subject that understood the culture. Jen, are you can you are you in us limb . Did you grow up in a Muslim Country . Youre jewish. Look. I should have known you were jewish. You should have. I should have known. Of course youre jewish. Whats up . How are you doing . I was taken back by this discussion. First of all, its a bit on the surface, five nonmuslims talking about problems in the muslim world is interesting and iss issues pertaining to a muslim woman and not have any muslim women when crazy right wing christians blow up abortion clinics a lot of people dont have any problem talking about that. No. But heres the issue and the point you made. What is ben affleck doing. This is not in defense but more importantly, what is that conversation really about . He said islam is the mother load of bad ideas. This isnt an issue about societal problems. Youre talking about bill maher . No. About the guest that was to his right. Who was that . Sam harris. One of the raging atheists. Say that about christians. The issue not about the ril. My problem with the debate, this is the danger of whats taking place when theres a discussion about muslims, issues in the muslim world. Is that there are societal problems and they are in predominantly muslim countries. That is not a problem with their religion. That is a problem with governance and issues. Thats like me saying theres a poverty problem in the u. S. Which is a predominantly Christian Country, a poverty problem in venezuela, which is a Christian Country therefore not able to deal with poverty. What we need to do, stop people from eating. Because if they eat, then were all going to hell. No. But the issue is this, this is my problem, again, theyre conflating the issue of religion and how people interpret and practice their religion. Exactly. Theres no problem in having a discussion about radical islam, where that comes from. But to suddenly use that to say islam is a religion is the mother load of bad ideas i think thats that is thats disappointing. Thats offensive. It is. Its beyond offensive. You would not talk about any other religion in the United States in that same kind of but they do. Thats the thing. For ben affleck to sit there and go oh, my god, my hair is on fire, has every time i go on bill mahers show, and ive been on probably 15, 20 times over the past couple decades, hes obsessed. He hates the fact that i believe in god. He hates the fact that anybody believes in any god. And im cool with him being an atheist. Thats okay. But it is one insult after another and if that was sam harris on, ive read stuff, they do that to everybody. I know what he said about islamophobia but he would have said the same thing about evangelicals. There is a problem with radical islam. A huge problem. People that distort and twist the teachings. I think theres a fund mental problem with extremism. It is important to have a debate as to why extremism exists, where it comes from, why this problem is prevalent. I have a major problem with people like bill maher and those trying to say it is because of their religion and not because of the way people are interpreting and applying their religion. These are societies and when we talk about the muslim world its a vast area, different problems. I mean you cant just say the muslim world and reference indonesia and algeria and turkey and bosnia. But let me ask you this, just let me push a little further to make people uncomfortable, whats a greater threat to civilization, christian extremism, jewish extreechlism or muslim extremism. To civilization. Yes. Around the world . Rit large. Good luck answering that question. How much time do we have . I mean look joking aside, youre looking at a very specific time in the history of humanity. What about when the crusades were taking place invading the world im talking about 2014. Im not talking about great. About over the past 1500 years. Because, obviously, you know and most educated people know that the muslim world was responsible for great advances that we still are benefiting from today. The western civilization built the renaissance. We understand that. 2014, whats the gravest threat to civilization right now . I would not say any of those. Not say radical islam is the greatest threat to civilization today. Global warming. Says mant from the New York Times. I have got to listen, its hard to say that isis presents an existential threat to the United States. Is our country going to fall because of radical islam, because of isis . I dont think so. Doesnt mean we shouldnt go after them. Right. They arent coming to our borders and taking over washington. So when you say existential threat, can our society survive it . I dont know. Okay. As fascinating as this is, i have to get to the director of the cdc about major headlines. We have. Can i interrupt . I guess so. Ayman just wouldnt stop. He kept attacking baptists and i had to defend them. Its a fascinating conversation. Some of my best friends are baptists. The centers for Disease Control and prevention, dr. Tom frieden. Doctor, i saw you where on meet the press and want to follow up to something you said about medicine to treat ebola being in very short supply, being very hard to make, taking a long time to make. If that is the case, how can we be sure that we really have our handle on the situation here in the u. S. If it were to come in larger numbers . Thats a great question. In fact, the way were going to stop ebola is not only by caring for individuals, but most importantly, by making sure we track every single contact, make sure as texas has done, that they have tracked every single day and none of them there have had fever or symptoms, if any do to isolate them. Thats how you break the chain of transmission. Because of our Public Health and Health Care Systems in this country, that im confident were not going to have a large outbreak here. Thats just completely avoiding or overlooking what happened in texas where the system broke down . In texas there were exposures. Those exposures, some of them were preventable, and thats unfortunate. Were doing a lot to ensure that hospitals, emergency departments, doctors, nurses, throughout the country really keep this top of mind as they should. Doctor, the cdc has done a great job over the past six months. During this crisis understanding the severity of this crisis. You cant say the same thing about the World Health Organization. You guys got stiff armed by the w. H. O. Why did it take them so long to get it . To figure out that this was an F International crisis. The world needs the World Health Organization and what weve done at cdc is help them get stronger. Were all going to learn from this and look back. This was a first ever situation, unprecedented. Whats happening now is actually were seeing signs of hope. Were seeing signs of progress in africa. Im sorry. You say the first ever, what do you mean the first ever . This is important. How is this ebola different from past Ebola Outbreaks . Its the first epidemic of ebola weve ever had. Its crossing multiple countries in west africa, its had larger numbers than ever before, its in urban areas. Why is that . Because it was let to spread for too long. Too long. Yep. Got into places it shouldnt have and then once there, it became very difficult to control when you didnt have enough places to place people to care for people. Willie . Dr. Frieden, let me ask you about Something Else that has people concerned this morning, the enterovirus d68. We learned over the weekend a little boy, a 4yearold named eli, from new jersey, one of three triplets, died from this. Went to bed, his mother said, with no symptoms except maybe a little pink eye and never woke up. For people watching, for people with children this morning, i know its in 43 states and washington, d. C. , what should they know about this . Yeah. Bottom line is, its a new situation. We havent seen this kind of widespread transmission. It does tend to fade as the fall goes on. And what tends to happen next is flu season. Its time to get a flu shot. Make sure you wash your hands. Dont go out if youre sick. Cover your cough. And if your child has asthma, make sure their asthma is well controlled because thats what weve seen in some of the more severe illnesses here. But dr. Frieden, how could a 4yearold boy go to bed with pink eye and not wake up . What is this virus . I cant comment on that individual case. What i can tell you is weve seen quite a wide variety of symptoms from mild to severe. For those with severe disease, most of them have been children who have had asthma or other respiratory problems that have been made worse by this infection. Dr. Tom frieden, we appreciate you coming. Busy time but we appreciate you being here. Thank you very much. God that is so frightening. Its really so frightening that the kid goes to sleep, the 4yearold goes to sleep. Yeah. No symptoms. But were talking a about almost all 50 state, at least in the 40s, having children who have been severely brought down by this, whether theyre suffering from even partial paralysis and terrible symptoms, its frightening and i it is horrible. Sort of balancing the fact that we obviously need to cover this World International story of ebola, but there is this other health issue that im not sure were giving enough attention to but we will have now on. Still ahead, do republicans need to take the senate in order to call this years election a victory . Some polls out right now suggesting that republicans, pathway to the majority is getting a lot more complicated. Much more morning joe straight ahead. New york state is jumpstarting business with startupny. An Unprecedented Program that partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. And you pay no taxes for ten years. 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Dad of course. Kid how much . Dad i dont know exactly. Kid what if youre not happy . Does he have to pay you back . Dad nope. Kid why not . Dad it doesnt work that way. Kid why not . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at charles schwab turning to domestic politics and new polling in three Key Senate Races this fall. According to a new nbc news marist poll in kansas, independent greg orman leads senator pat roberts 48 nick, youre shaking your head. Nobody would have lets keep that up for a while. Nobody would have seen this coming. 48 to 38. Its mind blowing pat roberts is losing by ten points. Yeah. By the way, you think that i next to greg ormans name may inspire people two years from now to do the same thing. Especially in the led states. Yeah. If youre a nonconservative running in a big red state like kansas which has no elected yeah. State wide years and years. Why do it. Go as an independent and say im not sure who im going to caucus with. If youre on the right side come november join which ever party is in the majority. Likely half voters said they had an unfavorable impression of the senator. North carolina, incumbent kay hagan leads republican state House Speaker tom tills is. That one too. You get the sense there. Its close. Its close and you know what, this could all switch. This could be a wave election in the last two weeks, explode in the republicans favor. I dont see it. I see too many cross currents a and in this case kay haggen Still Holding on up by four. She is a survivor. The amount of outside spending in that race, but all spending in that race is astonishing and theyve been hitting her from the right for like ten months. Yeah. On and on and yet stubbornly there is this core of voters who have been like, okay, shes our person. They just havent abandoned her. Now 44 ls 444 40 is not it could all switch tomorrow and thats what people need to understand. But its interesting. With the majority she hangs on. Were getting to a point now where we i remember when you go on certain websites, mitt romney up by 11 points and then see media polls that showed obama up by 4 in ohio and just stayed there. At some point about three weeks out i started saying, you know, yeah. Let me get to iowa real quick. Were getting there now where the polls matter. The race to replace tom harken. Joanie earnings leads bruce braley. Within the polls margin of err error. Willie, a race where the democrat has just made one mistake after another but hes still within the margin of error. Hanging in. This is a statep areps have to win. Not for 14 but going into 16 to prove they can win in something other than dark red states. That election is a coin toss right now. And were talking about this republican wave that we keep hearing about. Those three races go the other way forget about a republican wave. Interesting in all threes races we just showed president obamas Approval Rating is in the 30s. Perhaps hes not the albatross for all these candidates that hes supposed to be because the republicans are attacking democrats as being tools of the Obama Administration and theyre all hanging in in those states. Coming up from the secret service blunders to the va in disarray, should we trust the Obama Administration to handle the ebola virus . Were going to debate that ahead. Plus, Vice President biden says something that has our middle east allies up in arms. Were going to tell you what that was. What . Hes on an apology tour. Like more dates than a willco tour. Stop. Back in a moment. You stop it. receptionist Gunderman Group. Gunderman group is growing. Getting in a groove. Growth is gratifying. Goal is to grow. Gotta get greater growth. I just talked to ups. They got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. 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Kent brantley, a guy that knows something about this, because he had it, said this is a fire from hell and if you think the Atlantic Ocean is going to stop it from coming over here youre kidding yourself. I dont want to agree with dr. Scarborough, but i have no, i understand. But brantley heres the point. These are Public Health professionals of worldclass standing. They have no motivation to mislead the American People. Theyve dealt with many epide c epidemics before, many Health Issues before. I dont think theres a reason to believe theyre not doing what needs to be done. Ill be honest with you, this is a serious issue. Im quoting people that have ebola that have spent time in west africa people like you and like us, go on television, and say, this is far worse than theyre saying. Im not saying that. This is a reason to be guys. Then people respond to it. Im going to hit what i was saying we need to ask tough questions. We do have to ask tough questions even toe david doesnt want tough questions ever to be asked. He wants to say snothsty thingses. I dont know how you got through those years in politics being so sensitive. I expect cheap shots from people in politics. I dont expect its not a cheap shot. I dont expect them from my friends. David dont i have to ask a question before you Start Talking. Heres my concern you had the head of the cdc david, i have to ask a question. The head of the cdc on. I heard. Why this is a problem. He said its a problem because officials didnt ask on it fast enough. The World Health Organization missed every red light. We have to ask tough questions. I was quoting the Washington Post article yesterday and you come back with snide remark. Maybe you should read the article and take the screwups seriously. I read the article, take them seriously, i understand the world was slow in response. The question on the table, should the American People be panicked. No, they shouldnt. We agree with that. Thats fine. But the look, i watched, because im an invet rant watcher of morning joe, i watched you on friday you said they werent being straightforward how you can contract this, you said people are told not to panic, but the cdc isnt being straight. Now, the fact is, these guys have no other mission in life but to keep people safe. I think tom frieden is a straight up professional and excellent Public Health official. Tony fauci, the medal of freedom theyre great. I agree. From the bush administration. Theyre trying to solve this problem. I agree. I dont want people to panic and i dont think we should provoke them to panic either. Thats different than asking tough questions. Let me bring in matt lewis. Every time you ask a tough question people like David Axelrod says youre trying to make americans panic, when actually what were trying to do is ask tough questions about how did the w. H. O. Screw this up, why is it the doctor, dr. Kent brantley, that treated ebola patients, still doesnt know how he got ebola, why i mean, its okay for the cdc, its okay for the w. H. O. To say this is something a little bit different. We really dont have all the answers right now. But lets work together. Its just like if you ask a tough question, suddenly youre trying to make the world panic. I think the problem is, that this has to go in context, right. Its not just ebola. Its a whole slew of issues that weve been told, dont worry about. I actually have a question for david, which is, you know, whether its isis being called the jv, whether its the irs scandal being dismissed as a phony scandal, it seems like the Obama Administration has had a strategic made a strategic decision to sort of go with ensues yants, no drama obama, whatever crisis is facing them, the first instinct is to downplay it, dismiss it as not a big deal. I worry theres a boy who cried wolf phenomena taking place right now, where people frankly have quit believing them. Well, i dont think theres a boy who cried wolf phenomena going on right now. The United States is leading the effort, the global effort, on the ebola problem. Weve got 3,000 troops there with maybe more on the way. 120 cdc people there. Were leading the effort. We helped nigeria stop ebola in its tracks by bringing the right Public Health techniques to them. But so i dont think theres a boy who cried wolf. Joe, youre shifting goal posts. You said on the air that people shouldnt trust the cdc when they tell you how you can get ebola and the cdc is trying to calm the American People and make them understand how ebola is contracted. Thats quite different than asking tough questions. Those are objective facts. If you ask Kent Brantley he would probably say the same thing. First of all, Kent Brantley still doesnt know how he got ebola. Secondly, ive said this morning the cdc is doing a great job. The question is, though, you know, if all youre going to do is run around and say oh, not much to see here, much not much to do about anything. Thats more i was getting at. I have to say also nobody is saying that. Dont thats all you guys always say. Dont put words in my mouth. David, you have been telling me that for five, six, seven years. Every time a problem comes up, you go, oh, come on, joe. Nothing to worry about here. This isnt about politics. This is about public safety. Matt lewis on that front and then give david the last word. I count on you being the reasonable conservative. Right wingers are saying why are we in africa, why do we have troops over there . Why are we engaged . This is not our problem. Do you agree with me, this is our problem . And we need to aggressively do what we can as a nation to lead as David Axelrod is saying . Absolutely. Look, i think were all united on that. Im saying when it comes to leadership, i think its very important that we take things seriously, because we need the public to buy in and believe us. But in the case of ebola, absolutely im with you on that. David, im going to give you a chance to attack me viciously at the top of the hour with more cheap shots when we return. Were out of time. But i will seriously, my friend, give you a chance to call me doctor again. Thank you so much. Matt, thank you. Well see you later. We appreciate. David see you in a minute. Coming up how did the World Health Organization drop the ball on ebola . The one thing that may stop Hillary Clinton from a return to the white house. All the and much more, nothing but love around here on morning joe. Ch ally bank 24 7, but there are no branches . 24 7 its just im a little reluctant to try new things. Whats wrong with trying new things . Feel that in your muscles . Yeah. I do. Try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. I know. This third shift is rough. Its just a few more weeks max what are you doing up . Its late. I just wanted to have breakast wih you. [ male announcer ] over time, youve come to realize. [ starter ] ready [ starting gun goes off ] [ male announcer ] its less of a race. Yeah [ male announcer ] and more of a journey. Keep going strong. And as you look for a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. Expect the same kind of commitment you demand of yourself. Aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plans insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. Go long. Welcome back to morning joe. David axelrod still with us. Ayman mohyeldin with us. Senior editor for the news website, gideon litchfield. David, lets continue. Gideon asked what our history was. I said were really, really good friends. Let me try to put joes question differently. Or at least the end of your debate here so we can put a period at the end of the sentence and bring more news into it since were at the top of the hour. Okay. Is it okay to question at this point the world health organization as well as American Health officials given what has happened in dallas, given what has happened around the world, given that there was a slow response, given that there have been so many deaths and ebola, it has come to the United States, now at least in two cases . Mika, i first of all, lets be clear, i started my career as a journalist. I was an investigative reporter. I believe strongly that questions should be asked, need to be asked, in all situations. Thats part of what makes our system work. In this case, the question is not whether were asking the right questions, but whether were going to accept answers on fund mental facts like how you contract ebola. My concern is that we not panic the American People to believe that this is an epidemic like a flu epidemic that can be spread widely without contact and thats the point that friedan has been making, that fauci has been making, because this is something that can lend itself to panic. Absolutely. Thats my concern. David, dr. Frieden was on the show and said something on meet the press, if you dont have enough medicine to deal with ebola it takes a long time to makes this medicine, grow it, and they dont have enough right now, thats a problem. Well the truth is i would be a little worried. I dont know if i would panic. The truth is theyre not even certain yet that they have the medication to treat ebola. I mean the medicine itself is speculative. But he said because of the way you have to produce it, it takes a while. Theyre working on vaccines, dr. Fauci said, that may be useful. But these things do take time. You cant just expose people to things that havent been tested. But no, but the point here is, does the case in dallas, there was a mishandling by the hospital in dallas and no doubt about it, that has the perverse virtue of having alerted other hospitals around the country. Right. To follow the protocol. The cdc has sent seven different, as i understand it, directives to the hospitals in the last several months telling them how to handle it. This hospital had drills on how to handle it and its unbelievable. And still did and they flubbed it. Thats going to happen. Theres human error thats going to happen. The best thing we can do is keep people informed. My point is lets not inflame, lets inform on this issue. David, i dont want to inflame either. We agree. Thats great. So let me ask you, gideon, what happened to the World Health Organization . How did they drop the ball so badly . This is in part the point i was trying to make yesterday, this is in part why americans are skeptical. Because you have the World Health Organization in the spring according to the Washington Post said nothing to see here. You have a World Health Organization in late july when the head of Doctors Without Borders is saying this is much worse than you guys said. Accused her of being overly pes si miss missic. The mentality from Health Organizations and we asked the head of the cdc last hour, why he said this is new. This is different. Worse than ever before. He said, because the ball was dropped one time after another. Yeah. I dont know why the w. H. O. Didnt pick up the ball, but i dont think it makes sense to necessarily jump from the w. H. O. Dropped the ball to Health Organizations in general dont know what theyre doing. The w. H. O. And cdc are different things. West africa and the United States are different things. The fact that the mistakes were made at this hospital in texas, for instance, doesnt mean that ebola is now going to spread to everybody. Right. Its actually fairly hard for ebola to spread, especially when you have a wellrun health care system. The cdc is tracking every single one of the 48 people who came into contact with this patient. Its this stuff doesnt just immediately explode. So i think yeah. The w. H. O. Question certainly are very troubling. It doesnt necessarily mean were going to go to pieces here. Willie, the balance that has to be struck, we dont want to panic people, at the same time you cant have government officials telling you, listen, we have it all taken care of. Thats the bigger point. That chuck was making yesterday, that i was making yesterday, that im making today is, tough questions have to be asked and because they werent early on, we have a crisis. It has come to the United States. And lets hope it stays contained in dallas with one patient. We should all be skeptical, specifically at this table, its our job to be sketscle and ask those questions. I agree with david as i said in the last hour, is it a crisis in west africa, crisis in sierra leone and liberia . Obviously yes. Is it a crisis here . No, its not. Because we have the care we have and because of the job the cdc has done its not a crisis. I dont think theres cause for panic. I want to get to another story here good for our panel. U. S. Led air strikes are continuing against Islamic State militants in iraq and syria, but the militant group is making advances in both countries and threatening even more bloodshed. Witnesses say isis killed six iraqi soldiers in public in a town outside baghdad. In syria, kurd Kurdish Forces are trying to defend a keyboarder city but officials fear isis could take control within days. The militants took responsibility for beheading another british hostage and threatening to kill a man from indianapolis peter kassig, former army ranger, kidnapped while helping Syrian Refugees. Meanwhile for the second time over the weekend, Vice President joe biden apologized to a u. S. Ally in the fight against isis. The apology to the uae centered on these comments where he suggested it supported mill tances in the region. Our allies in the region are our largest problem in syria. The turks are great friends and i have a great relationship with erdogan who i spent time with, the saudis, emirates, et cetera, what were they doing . They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against assad except that the people who were being who were being supplied were al nusra and al qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world. I want to get to the joe biden comments. He apologized to turkey and the joe biden apology tour. Lets talk about first of all, isis. They are beheading soldiers. The outskirts of baghdad. And we seem to toggle between, isis is a jv team, right, to isis is an existential threat. When you Start Talking about isis not being a jv team and being an existential threat, people say wait a second, theyre only 17,000. Then they start moving them back towards the jv team. We dont know who they are, but i am wondering, how can they move about with such impunity . Even now and behead six soldiers in town squares outside of baghdad. Shows you how much of a force they are. They certainly i wouldnt describe them as a jv team. Theyre wreaking havoc in the areas that they control. I think that are they an existential threat to the United States, to western democracies, no, i dont think they are. Are we exam rating their power in the middle east because of the beheading videos . I dont think youre exaggerating the threat of the group in terms of the havoc theyre wreaking. You cant underestimate the threat of their ideology. Thats the important thing. This is very tragic what is happening in terms of the beheadings and right. The kidnappings of these hostages and i actually, you know, i knew and i know peter, i met him on his way into syria the last time. We had lunch in beirut. He knew the risks of what he was getting involved in. You know, some of us that were there warned him against going into syria. He was a person whos going to help Syrian Refugees and syrian people. This is an organization that has no mercy if youre killing people who are trying to even help syrians. So i dont think you should underestimate them. But i also dont think that we should make it sound like theyre on their way to i attack the United States any second. I want to talk about joe biden here. I dont understand the uae. I think turkey should be apologizing to us. Bulls how frustrated is the administration, uae aside, with a lot of our, quote, middle eastern allies who have actually been propping up extremists in the regions with contributions . Well, first of all, let me just say, its ban long time since ive been in the administration. I dont want to possit myself as a spokesperson from the administration. Just from what you read in newspapers. Look, it has to be a source of frustration. Qatar and, you know, there was a good piece this weekend about them wanting to be everss friends and, you know, one memory i have of the middle east is sitting with ironically president mubarak and president obama and mubarak saying to obama, the middle east is a very complicated place. It is a very complicateds place and there are these crosscurrents that are very hard to navigate which is why, you know, the wisdom of going in there in the first place as we did is a question. But now we see the effects. All the sectarian warfare, the double dealing, the concerns about extremist forces within their own countries that they try and quell through funding of schools and other institutions. Right. Its really, really tough. And, you know, i the you know, i have great affection for joe biden. I think hes been a great Vice President. Everss strength is their weakness. His is he he speaks his mind and he says whats on his mind. It doesnt mean what was on his mind wasnt true. The question is just whether it was the diplomatic thing. Right. Toe say. I think its a real issue. I think these folks have to make a decision as to whether they can live with this budding Extremist Movement in their midst and if they cant, then they have to act on it. Ayman . Theres also a little bit of a flip side and i wanted to say from the arab countries perspectives three years ago when the Syrian Revolution was beginning they were trying to push the United States to get more involved early on and try not to have to rely on these extremist groups which they ended up fighting and became the precursor to isis. Speaking to a lot of arab diplomats they were trying to say they wanted more u. S. Involvement early on and i think from their perspective it didnt come as quickly as they would like. Were learning so much more about it. Willie . Another angle, the fbi director, james comey talking about recruiting and some of these fighters going to fight with isis, including some from the United States. Heres what he said. How Many Americans are fighting in syria on the side of the terrorists . In the area of a dozen or so. Do you know who they are . Yes. Each and every one of them . I think of that dozen or so, i do. I hesitate only because i dont know what i dont know. Some people call individuals who are radicalized lone wolves. Is that the biggest threat we face . People use that term. Its not one i like. It conveys a sense of dignity i dont think they deserve. The home grown violent extremists are troubled souls seeking meaning in some misguided way and they come across the propaganda and become radicalized on their own, independent study, and able to equipment themselves with training through the internet and then engage in jihad after emerging from their basement. The name lone wolf offends you . It does. I prefer lone rat. To capture the kind of person were talking about. Ayman, there was question over the weekend some reporting about how effective americanled air strikes inside syria have been and sort of dismantling and dispersing isis. What are you hearing from your reporting on the ground about how effective theyve been some. I dont think theyve done enough to completely destroy or degrade isis. When you look at the press releases coming out of centcom theyre taking out pickups and humvees and tanks and a group of fighters and this is an organization that is thriving on its ability to be fluid and adapt to the battlefield environment. Theyre posing threats to kobani, executing iraqi soldiers, their ability to be dispersed regroup, recounter and attack is proving to be quite formidable and a problem for the u. S. Military. Theyre counting a missile hitting a 1978 Toyota Pickup truck. Dont degrade the 1978 Toyota Pickup truck. Battlefield vehicle. It is a serious but theyre talking about battlefield equipment. Lets just admit it. These air strikes, i know we have to do something, we have to do something, but unless you boots on the ground, and im sure as hell not talking about american boots on the ground, that will sweep from village to village to village theyre going to be there for a very long time, gideon, arent they . This is where bidens comments about turkey become relevant because erdogan got upset with biden because biden said that erdogan had admitted to him that, you know, that turkey had been too free and easy about letting supplies and weapons in and militants through the border into syria. Now the problem is that turkey has a very mixed up agenda in its involvement here in this fight. It approved finally last thursday spending turkish militant incursions into syria and iraq, but turkey wants to at least as much as wipe out isis it wants to wipe out the kurds. The kurdish separatists and pkk, the people who are going to be doing a lot of the boots on the ground work. Yeah. Turkeys interest s and the u. S. Interests clash. This has to do with the tension with biden and erdogan. Gideon and david let me ask david before we go, we showed a poll last hour of kansas. Whats happening in kansas. Republicans might ask, whats the matter with kansas. Put it up right now. You have an independent beating pat roberts by ten points. Can the Republican Party take the senate back and they have to take the senate back or else this year is going to be seen as a colossal political loss for them. Im hearing that from the top of the parties. Can they take the senate back if they lose kansas . It very i think its harder. I think iowa is going to be the key race, joe. I really think as i look at how this all is, i would watch iowa closely because i think that could be the tiebreaker in this whole deal. Kansas is definitely complicated. You say whats the matter with kansas . Whats the matter is you have to live there in order to be the senator. Oh, wow. Here we go. Its no, hes right. Its a dick lugar problem. Still ahead on morning joe david, thank you. Big time democrat donors turning their backs on the clintons . Well tell you whos set to cash in on the liberal money shift. 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Salacious story with a serious if its a salacious story im going to read it then. Lets move on. Usa today, a fastmoving and powerful typhoon in japan killed one u. S. Airmen and left two others missing. Reports say the three Service Members were pulled into rough surf taking photos off the coast of okinawa. Rescue workers are battling tough winds and rains in hopes of finding the missing men. Officials say the typhoon phanfoen packed winds 110 miles an hour and forced as many as 400,000 people into temporary shelters. Protesters in hong kong have made some concessions in their demands. Unblocking roads and allowing government workers to return to their jobs this morning. The citys leader had warned demonstrators, quote, all necessary actions would be taken to clear the streets today in hong kongs business direct. About 300 people remain standing outside the governments Main Building this morning. A significantly Smaller Group than the tens of thousands that have been demonstrating over the last week. From the kansas city star, the royals face the l. A. Dodgers in the final game of the alds. The angels were up 10 on the brink against the royals. Kansas citys alex gordon at bat with bases loaded in the first, he hits a deep shot off the centerfield wall and brings everybody home. Wow. Eric and mike wustokis helped to add to the lead each hitting a home run in the fifth. Lorenzo kaine, first a diving catch to albert pujols. Look at that. And a charging one to make a great grab. Kansas city moves on to the alcs after sweeping the angels. Im sorry. Something happened in baltimore too. Yes. That is just the royals are an amazing team. Cool to see george up there cheering, clapping in the box. Led them the last time they were in the playoffs in 1985. A fun team to watch. So are the orioles, the tigers facing elimination against the os, scoreless sixth inning, man on first. That one is hit hard rightfield line. Cruz watching this one slice and it is a fair ball home run. Nelson cruz is a home run hitting machine. Thats so cool. Tworun shot hitting the foul pole. They win 21 eliminating the tigers after a threegame sweep. Baltimore hosts the royals in the alcs on friday. Willie im going to baltimore. Youre going to go friday. I think so. Let me ask you this, do you think it will cause an outbreak. What . Dissension on the set if i because i im going to admit. K. C. . I ordered a royals cap last week. Did you . I did. Wow. From ebay. Like this sweater. Another one from ebay . This is an ebay sweater. 29. 95. Last you can touch it. Thats okay. You can touch it. Last year, i kind of let claire down and i let the good people of st. Louis down, so i i have decided im cheering for missouri. I dont care. I want the cardinals and i want the royals and i actually bought a royals cap last week. Youre well within your rights. Underdog, good team to get behind. All the oriole caps here. I dont want this to be another east coast year on the set of morning joe. Im bringing my k. C. And cardinals cap. I got a cardinals cap that claire gave me and im going to missouri. You might want to keep your word with claire just once. You could have a royals cardinals world series. That would be awesome. Bringing the caps in on friday and friday ill wear my royals cap. And your orioles. I guess i am. For now. Camden yard. We ought to go down to camden yard. Lets go to politico, chief White House Correspondent is mike allen. I love him. A look at the playbook. Good to see you, sir. Good morning. Politico reporting not only are some democrats not ready for hillary, some of the partys big donors are quietly looking to back other candidates. Who are we talking about here . The dream is elizabeth warren. She says shes not running. What we have is a lot of donors who feel like Hillary Clinton is not addressing their issues. Shes too hawkish, too close to wall street. Theyre concerned about her views on climate, on money and politics and these are all issues that people give money on. And so ken folgal talked to some of the biggest donors in the Democratic Party and they would love to fund a challenger to her, if nothing else, to push her to the left on these issues. Who are they talking about . Theyre talking to the former senator from virginia, jim webb. Yeah. Dreaming of elizabeth warren. Of course the Maryland Governor Martin Omalley is meeting with a lot of big donors. This is interesting. Behind the scenes, we hear hes being smart. Hes not presenting h ining him an alternative to Hillary Clinton or trying to bash her down. He says if she doesnt run, i could be your guy. So Hillary Clinton is exposed by this new law that lets billionaireses give to prop up a candidate so just like Sheldon Adelson did with Newt Gingrich could that happen with one of the other democratic candidates. Jim webb was on meet the press yesterday. Pretty impressive. I like jim webb a lot. I think he could occupy a pretty good space there. Thats the thing, if hillary runs and runs against just one democrat, one major democrat. Yeah. Probably have 40 right there. You know what im saying. You think he gets in . I think so. If he wants it. If he gets the money from some of these people i think he will. Whoever it was, she would be stronger. Kate snow joins us from omaha where an nbc news cameraman will land this morning to be treated for ebola. Plus the other medical emergency that has us very concerned this morning. Gosh. Were going to ask a leading expert at Columbia University Medical Center has a 4yearold boy could go to sleep in seemingly good health and never wake up. More morning joe when we return. Theres confidence. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. 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Inside the plane like this one, multiple layers of protection key signed to make sure no one would ever come in contact with the virus. On the ground in omaha, another team from Nebraska Medical Center. Hell be fully suited in a suit from head to toe and a Face Mask Covering his entire face. Literally not one inch of his body will be exposed and then our Health Care Workers will be have protective equipment on very similar, covered head to toe. When you cross the red line theres no turning back. Reporter the medical director of the biocontainment unit took us across the red line into the area where no one will be able to go without full protective gear. This is his room right here. Everything is carefully monitored. You hold this open more than a few seconds an alarm goes off. Theres a break in the barrier system. Ashokas family wont be able to get near the patient room but he has a link to the outside world. The camera will give him the ability to video chat with him hiss family down the hall. We spoke with his parents sunday before they flew to omaha. The fact that hes feeling well right now or relatively well, that his symptoms are not severe yet and hes also about to get fantastic medical care is an enormous relief after the very, very stressful few days weve been through. Every time i would ask him how hes doing or how hes feeling, he clearly would respond with, im just getting myself through this day until i get on the plane. Reporter one piece of really good news, were told ashoka mukpo walked on to the plane in liberia with assistance but he was walking. Thats good news. Meantime Nancy Snyderman and her team are feeling fine, were told, and plans are being made for their return. Back to you. Nbcs kate snow, thank you. And willie, ive been emailing with nancy and she says theyre fine. Its just cumbersome for sure. And tough. 21 days i guess. Yeah. Quarantine. Lets bring in dr. Stephen morse the director of Infectious Disease epidemiology at the Columbia University Medical Center. Thanks for coming in this morning. Pleasure to join you. We were talking before we came on the air about how this has all been handled. How do you think the cdc has done stateside . This is the first time theyve had to deal with an actual patient coming in and i think on the whole, they have done well. There have been a few slips along the way. I suspect the next time will be better, but cdc is doing the best it can with the resources it has and so is the state. I think, you know, we all think im sure the cdc thinks that they should have gotten to the patients family a little bit sooner, much sooper perhaps, but i think those are some of the lessons that we learn by unfortunately making these mistakes and correcting them. Theres been a lot of public debate, including on this set this morning, about how concerned americans should be about ebola coming here. Only one confirmed case so far, more than 7,000 in west africa. What do you tell people watching today about how concerned are you as a physician . Well, there will be imported cases. This is almost always true. And its been true of every infectious. But ebola is not going to establish itself here. I dont think its going to be a real threat to americans if patients, people who come in with ebola are recognized, handled by Health Care Workers or when they come into the airports. I think that it can be contained very easily and very appropriately. All right. I want to move to the enterovirus. We have been reporting about this 4yearold boy from new jersey who went to bed last night. The most they could see wrong with him is that he had pink eye. Otherwise he was perfectly fine. He died. And it has been linked directly to a strain of the enterovirus. Let me give you other numbers. 500 cases across the United States. 43 states reporting cases. Five people with enterovirus who have died. And one death now linked directly. We have a 10yearold rhode island girl diagnosed with it who died early this month, also suffering from a staph infection. What should parents know that they dont know about this and how concerned should we be compared to the ebola story that weve been covering . Because i feel like this is going under the radar . Well, i mean, the enterovirus is obviously a surprise to all of us. There have been mass events before, you know, in georgia, for example, a few years ago, there was a fairly large outbreak, but we havent seen fatalities before and we dont know the reason. It may just be this is such a large outbreak that although fatalities are rare, especially in people with medical underlying medical conditions, that if you have enough people infectioned you may have the occasional fatality, tragic as it is. The precautions are the same you would take for your kids with any cold virus thats going around, any respiratory infection. So, you know, good hygiene, watch your kids to see how theyre doing, if theres enterovirus going around. Is this moving more quickly than medical officials expected. You said it was a surprise. A surprise in the sense that this was the largest outbreak weve had so far and we dont quite understand why this outbreak is so large. Dr. Stephen morse, thank you. Up next, how the battlefields of iraq and afghanistan helped one man make his lifelong dream of playing division 1 football come true. His inspiring story is next. Turn the trips you have to take, into one youll never forget. Earn points for every flight and every hotel. Expedia plus rewards. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Of all the things Daniel Rodriguez carries, a flag may mean the most. For 24yearold walkon, the journey to get here started in a different uniform. After already serving a tour in iraq, rodriguez was deployed here to the province in afghanistan where at times he filmed himself in battle. Watch. Stationed in a violent remote outpost near the pakistani border, rodriguez met pfc kevin thompson and in the fall of 2009, the two made a pledge. Lets promise each other that we get out, we follow our hearts, do what we want to do. Mine was to walk on and play College Football and get a degree. That was part of a 2012 espn piece profiling Daniel Rodriguez whos not only a decorated war hero but a division 1 Football Player for Clemson University before joining the tigers as a wide receiver he served two tours of duty in iraq and afghanistan. The retired sergeant is the author of a new memoir rise, a soldier, a dream, and a promise kept. Willie, look at him. He dresses like a clemson man. Fantastic. I was going to say, looks like tailgating before the clemson game. What are we doing here . Bringing the tide home. Its an honor to have you here. Thanks for being here. We should mention recipient of the purple heart, bronze star, among other honors serving this country in iraq and afghanistan. Tell me about this dream to play football at clemson . When did it start . You know, clemson wasnt originally the bound location but it was one of those things in the mountaintops leaving football out of high school i wanted something more and the military, i lost a lot of friends and it was promising a good friend of mine kevin thompson, i would try to play football again and go back to school. Through the grapevine clemson heard about me with a viral Youtube Video i put out as a recruitment video and one thing led to another and here i am. Ill read the quote from the head coach at clemson, i clicked on it probably like a lot of people i was mesmerized by the video and his work ethic, his drive to chase a dream. Tell me about that first phone call from coach . It actually came in the form of an email. Said, hey, head coach, we would love to talk to you about an opportunity. I was in history class at a local community college. I walked out of my class and called the number immediately. I would love to have you come down here, take a visit, somebody that could represent our team and program the right way. I didnt know where clemson, south carolina, was. I drove down. Thats great. I drove down, met with the staff, the facility. Right by the big peach. So it was one of those things i knew it was a home i was going to be a tiger one way or another. So back up if you could. Because i want to hear more about that promise and i want to hear about kevin thompson. Yeah. Kevin was a great guy and, you know, as we do in the military, we just talk a lot when were not fighting overseas deployed and you get to know the guy next to you who is a brother of mine. We would talk about what we wanted to do, the hardships we faced in the military from seeing combat and losing friends, just one of those things we didnt want that to define our lives. For me it was going back to school, getting an education and trying to play football again something i loved and i lost. He wanted to go back to his hometown and do his own thing. Two weeks later we were involved in a battle in october 3rd of 2009 one of the bloodiest battles in afghanistan to date and he was killed in front of me. It was one of the things i got out of the military i suffered through a lot of depression but holding on to that promise is what kept me driving and keep going and play the game of football in his name. There was this space between the time you left afghanistan. Yes. Until you run out on the field with 90,000 screaming for you. What was it like when you were suffering ptsd . The transition is difficult. A lot of people see me and my story. Veteran turned football. They dont see the year and a half space of daunting lifestyle i had. There was a lot of depression, you know, thoughts of suicide. My friends committed suicide. Drinking. A lot of things that influenced me in a negative way. It all reflected on me thinking positively and trying to overcome that and waking up one morning saying i want more for myself. I felt if i didnt live my life to maximize my potential my friends died in vain. I needed to represent them in a proper way of doing something positive with my life so that they didnt die in vain. That was the ultimate just leading me to where i am and living a life of positive instead of thinking negative all the someti the time. That is great. When you think about the dark place that happens in the months and years after returning home from war, are you as surprised as some are to hear the number 22 a day . Yeah. It is surprising. 22 suicides a day. Im victim of having friends that have committed suicide coming back stateside, even in afghanistan and iraq, i knew people that had committed suicide over there. And you come back and you just feel lost. You come back in a state of mind youre not sure what your purpose is. Youre patrolling the streets like i was at 18 in baghdad and then afghanistan fighting toe to toe with taliban and come home, your rifle is gone, youve traded in your uniform and trying to who are you . Get back and reintegrate in a world who doesnt know who you are. Its just sad. A lot of us cant make the transition. For me i was fortunate enough to have my eye on something as football is therapeutic as just a therapy for me and helped me a lot. The book is its amazing. Its rise, its a soldier, its a dream and a promise kept and wow, what a great story. Thank you so much for being here. Daniel rodriguez. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Coming up from College Football to an nfl team. If only he had been on a Better College team. Oh, wait. I cant say that. Alabama lost this weekend. To an nfl team that could probably be beaten by most college teams, we wallow in the hapless new york jets. Really, we do . Willie takes us through yesterdays nfl action, next. 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With centurylink visionary cloud a brinfrastructure, and Custom Communications solutions, your business is more reliable, secure, and agile. You guys want to do some football highlights or something . Lets do sunday night football. Maybe you missed it. New england leading 70 in the first. Tom brady finds gronk for the completion. Brady breaks 50,000 yards passing. Brady finishes with 292, a couple touchdowns. New england, there was a lot of handwringing up there about the season. Blows out the previously undefeated bengals 4317. Tom brady in the history books. San diego backup quarterback michael vick in for geno smith. Theyre down 210. In comes vick. Doesnt even make one shred of difference. So did vick not do well . 310. He did nothing whatsoever. How bad is it . They want to bring back tebow. You can find him doing inspirational stories over on gma. Dude, it couldnt be worse. Its bleak, man. I dont know if rex is going to survive the season. I like rex ryan, but thats a spiral. I was surprised when in a moth was on here, blunt about it. Theres a culture problem he top. I dont know how rex survives the season. There have been whispers but now theyre not even competitive so somethings going to give here. Denver bronc denver broncos. Peyton manning. Sevenyard touchdown. Mannings 500th career touchdown. Joins brett favre as the only two quarterbacks to ever reach that mark. A fantasy owners dream come true. The broncos and the card, their first look 4120 in a blowout. Arlington, texas cowboys trailing houston 73 in the third quarter. Tony romo back to pass. Eludes the pressure, and launches the deep ball. This ends in overtime. Romo with another offbalance throw. He wasnt even looking. Dez bryant. What a catch. He wasnt even looking when he threw the ball. Are we going to see no, were not going to see it again but it was great. Heres the gamewinning field goal. They beat the texans 2017. Look out, the cowboys putting a little season together. Are they really . Yeah, 41, looking good. To new orleans. The saints have the ball in overtime. Tied at 31 with the bucs. Robinson takes the handoff. Shredding tacklers. Thats the game winning touchdown. Saints win 3731. To nashville where its get ugly for the titans. Browns on their way back from a deficit against the titans. Little over a minute to play. Hoyer finds benjamin in the back of the end zone. They were down 25 points so these are the first, like, seconds of the nfl ive seen this season. Whos looking good . Well the cowboys are obviously a surprise. Dallas is 41. Giants have now won three in a row. Theyve lost their first two. San diegos 41. Some interesting teams coming through here. What do you have, mika . Oh, my gosh, look at this. What are you doing, mika . Eat them. Eat them all. The burgers from baltimore. Listen, thomas, mika is going to baltimore friday night. Shes going to take her daughters to the orioles game. I think i need to do the dance. Dont you think it was the dance that did it . Thomas, can i ask you a quick question, before you start dancing im a little deaf in this ear, you have to turn it up. Magic magic go, royals. Such a good weekend. I lost my voice on friday screaming at the television. Such a good game. Im glad i could help. Then this weekend watching the game yesterday because it was my birthday over the weekend. Oh, happy birthday a whole box of these by myself. Thats a good birthday. Watching the game yesterday, eating these. By the way, thomas i wish i was. 300pound kid. Anyway, you all need to go to the orioles game. Can i ask you something, theres always this guy that would, like, shake the let me n lemonade up. Wild bill . At Memorial Stadium . No, not Memorial Stadium. This is a strange show. Its magic. Magic magic will you still love me if i root for the royals . I saw the segment a second ago. You were trying to suck up to claire mccaskill. 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Angels have the best record in baseball this year. Dominated their division. Dominated the American League. Had to fight their way in. And now they sweep the best team in baseball perhaps in los angeles and move on. How cool is this . It feels like its 1985. Youve got the orioles and the royals. Theyre going to be playing in bald mo baltimore on friday. Im going to baltimore on friday. I usually hate him for giving me those cookies. Youre just a hater. Im so excited. The dance worked. Whats the dance . We had would you like to recreate the dance . Thomas sings magic, magic, and i just burst out worst dancer ive ever seen in my life. My teenagers will never be the same. The tigers also getting swept. I hated to see that. So weve got quite a lineup. Oh, yes. So the nationals, willie, a lot of weeping and nashing of teeth in washington, d. C. Sunday morning over the longest game in playoff history. 16 innings was it . 18 innings. Six hours and change. Theyre in some trouble now. Theyre in big trouble. It looks like the series to be watching is the dodgers and the cardinals. Weve got a lot to talk about. We have Political Writer for the New York Times. Were going to start this morning with the Ebola Outbreak. In just a few hours, another american who tested positive for ebola will arrive at Nebraska Medical Center in omaha. The freelance nbc camera man who was working with dr. Nancy snyderman in africa will be treated by dozens of specialists. He is the fifth american to be diagnosed with the virus. In dallas, the cdc says the man who slipped by screeners and into the u. S. Is, quote, fighting for his life. Officials say Thomas Eric Duncan is in Critical Condition and family members say he is on a respirator. We have reporters on the ground following both cases. Nbcs john yang is live at the Nebraska Medical Center. He is set to arrive today. What can you tell us about how the hospital is getting ready . Theyre ready, mika. Theres a bio containment unit, one of the biggest in america. About 40 medical personnel will be treating him. Once he lands here in omaha, hell land at the main airport here, epley field. The plane will taxi to a remote part of the airport. This is a part of the airport where hell encounter no public. Its not a part of the airport where the general public would be. Hell be wearing a protective suit covered head to toe. No part of his body exposed. Hell be completely covered. Once he gets here, theyll be evaluating him here at the hospital. About 40 medical personnel. People actually volunteering to treat him for ebola. All right, thanks very much for that. Were going to get to mark potter in just a minute for the apparently worsening condition of the other patient. According to the latest statistics by the World Health Organization, the death toll stands at over 3,400. But the actual number is likely to be worse. The country of sierra leone had its worst day since the outbreak began, recording 121 deaths in a single day. And the growing crisis is bringing attention to the initial response by the international community. A top official at the World Health Organization tells the Washington Post the group may have waited too long to respond to the outbreak. It took the w. H. O. 4 1 2 months to declare a Global Health emergency. By that time, it was too late. Joining us, the professor of Infectious Disease, dr. David hayman. Dr. Heyman investigated the first Ebola Outbreak back in 1976. Doctor, its good to have you this morning. A blistering report in the Washington Post yesterday about a lot of mixed signals. Starting last spring. You had a moment at the end of july where the head of Doctors Without Borders was begging the World Health Organization to step up and declare this an international emergency. She was called overly pessimistic. Why so many missed signals in this outbreak . Its really not clear why this outbreak wasnt dealt with earlier. Its always clear if it is dealt with in a rural area where theres Better Community organization, village chiefs, they can help with the response. But it got out of a rural area, unlike the 25 previous outbreaks that were stopped in rural areas. And now its in an urban area. So, so what can what should the United States be doing . What should the World Community be doing right now to slow the rapid spread of this disease down in west africa . And are they doing it . Most important is the three principles that have stopped outbreaks in the past. Thats finding and isolating patients and making sure that when theyre hes laisolated, h workers dont get infected. Tracing those who have been in contact with the patient. Checking their temperature. If they get sick, diagnosing, if its ebola, putting them in the hospital. The third is making sure that the community understands how to prevent infection and if there are services to bury dead bodies and to take care of those who are sick. So this is whats required. Okay, doctor. I guess i want to know what your concern level is about whether or not that can happen in africa. And as it pertains to the u. S. , weve been hearing medical Officials Saying theres a certain drug to treat ebola and its very limited in supply and im confused how we can be so sure that it can be contain and we have the ability and that everything is going to be okay if there arent enough drug, to treat it. Well, there certainly arent any drug, to treat it, thats clear. And the outbreak must be stopped by the traditional means that we just spoke about. Isolating patients, tracing contacts, making sure that people are fever are diagnosed and the community understanding. Very difficult in urban areas in africa. There are some hopes. There are some remedies that could be tried which might even be sustainable. For example, the blood of people who have survived from ebola contains antibodies. If those can be collected and provided to patients who are still sick, it may be they can decrease the virus in their blood and actually make them better. Hopefully, thats what will happen. And these are some of the things that need to be studied. Antiviral drugs are present but theyre not in such a supply they could be tried at present. Doctor, thank you very much. I think theres a couple Unanswered Questions about how its being dealt with here in the u. S. That just dont add up in terms of the drugs that there are to treat this and how people are getting it. We had a fascinating discussion yesterday on meet the press. And you had David Axelrod and gwen eiffel on the side of, im sorry, lets say it, theyre like the cop in the simpsons. Not here to defend himself. Chief wigham. Things will be blowing up. He goes, nothing to see here, move along. No, that is what . But there are so many Unanswered Questions. You had yesterday, david jumped me, because i simply quoted the the doctor that got ebola and came back to the United States. Would talked about what a horrible situation it was. And right now youve got the government saying, dont worry about it. Nothing to, you know, dont panic. And if you ask any tough questions, suddenly youre panicking. And chuck todd brought up a great point yesterday. You look at all the scandals over the past 18 months, willie, and when the government says dont worry about it, well, forget about barack obama. Go back to impeachment, the 2000 recount, missed info on n9 11, the housing bubble. The secret service scandal. Obamacare launch. Na wiretapping. A. P. James rosen. The federal government telling us to not ask tough questions and not to worry about it is a problem. If you read the Washington Post, it is very clear, theyve been downplaying this from the very beginning. I dont think americans are going to just sit back and go, its cool, the government has it taken care of. I dont believe the government has got it taken care of. Why trust the government on something this important . I think they have to prove to us they have it taken care of. The problem is, they may be right in this case that theres nothing to panic about but because of all the things theyve listed over the last two decades or so, people dont inti intinktively trust what they hear from the government anymore. Think obviously we have better implements in place to help contain this. As you say, no ones going to take anything at face value. I think its also smart not to panic right now. Listen, very, very different from the way theyre capable of handling things in west africa. This is what bothered me yesterday. By simply raising the questions the Washington Post raised about how World Health Organization last spring said, this is small, dont worry about it, this is small. The head of the World Health Organization, when this had already exploded, had the head of Doctors Without Borders coming, begging, saying, please, pay more attention to this. This is an explosion. This is the one thing i will tell you, you cant argue, they were completely on top of. To africa. They saw it coming. Theyre talking about it. The only problem is, nick, from all reports, the response right now is too slow. We were talking about boots on the ground. Whats funny is the same people, the same governments that were saying about the africa crisis, dont worry about it, its going to be fine, right, and they were wrong then. The same ones saying about the u. S. Version of it, dont worry about it, its going to be fine. As you were saying, we have a Huge Public Health infrastructure here. We have by the way, we can add the World Health Organization . The United Nations. All Government Agencies have felt so far why and they underestimated this. I think we need to be asking tough searing questions. Theres no question about that. I do think that right now in the u. S. You have a bigger chance of being shot in the head than getting this virus. So theres some element of do you want to create a panic. Do you want people if they see someone sneezing in their Office Running home and going crazy. No, but we want to deal with flights coming in. Most americans dont understand. I know all the smart guys, all the smart women understand why we continue to allow flights coming from west africa. I can just tell you, im a regular guy. Im a simple country lawyer, willie. Youve seen me in court. You know. Very good. Sputoon, the whole bit. Most of us simple folk, we dont understand why you keep letting the flights unabated. Saying, oh, it will stop relief efforts. Really, is there not a better way to make sure we can screen to make sure flights going over to west africa with relief workers able to come back . I want us to declare war on ebola. I really do. So im not saying a lot of stooges ive been reading, its their problem. No, its our problem. Its the worlds problem. I dont understand why we cant take a tougher line on people flying into this country. A 4yearold boy dies after coming down with the enterovirus after appearing to be in good health before the disease claimed his life. What parents need to know about that health emergency. Plus, one state is considering sending less criminals to jail. Well tell you which one and why. But first can we put him in jail just for crimes against fashion . Crimes against everything. Crimes against fashion . Crimes against fashion. How about just basic human behavior. Bill karins has the forecast. Bill, keep your hands to yourself. I always do, always will. Good morning, everyone. After a cold chilly weekend in the great lakes and the northeast, some Better Weather for you. Unfortunately, we have some severe weather to talk about too. Starting this morning with the heat on in hartford. 40 degrees is your morning temperature. Some people scraping frost off their windshields. Notice some rain moving into buffalo and pittsburgh late today. All morning long, weve been tracking these thunderstorms. Pretty good complex of them went through the little rock area. Theyve weakened over tennessee. Theyre right over the top of nashville as we speak. Also for shreveport to dallas, interstate 20, weve had some pretty heavy rains early this morning. As we go through the afternoon, the storms fire back up ahead of the cold front. About 19 Million People at risk of wind damage, hail, maybe even a few tornadoes. If we get any tornadoes, watching western tennessee, northern mississippi, the favored spots. This goes to lexington and louisville. Your forecast for today. Northeast is great. Everyone in the west is great. A hot weekend in california. Tuesday, that mess thats today in the tennessee and mississippi valleys, that all is heading for the northeast tomorrow. Not severe weather, but it will be a rainy tuesday in areas from d. C. To philly to new york. In new england, a lot of the peak leaves will be coming down. We leave you with a shot. The leaves have yet to start changing. Maybe a little tint there on the mall. Washington, d. C. In for a beautiful monday. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Your customers, our financing. Your aspirations, our analytics. Your goals, our technology. Introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership. Banking. Loyalty. Analytics. Synchrony financial. Enagage with us. Its monday. A brand new start. Your chance to rise and shine. With centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. With our visionary cloud infrastructure, Global Broadband network and Custom Communications solutions, your business is more reliable secure agile. And with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week. Centurylink your link to whats next. They all lost their lives because of preventable medical errors, now the third leading cause of death. Only Heart Disease and cancer take more lives. Proposition 46 will save lives with drug and Alcohol Testing to make sure impaired doctors dont treat someone you love. Safeguards against Prescription Drug abuse. And holds the medical industry accountable for mistakes. Im barbara boxer. Lets save lives. Vote yes on 46. Its a fresh approach on education superintendent of public instruction Tom Torlaksons blueprint for great schools. Torlaksons blueprint outlines how investing in our schools will reduce class sizes, bring back music and art, and provide a wellrounded education. And torlaksons plan calls for more parental involvement. Spending decisions about our education dollars should be made by parents and teachers, not by politicians. Tell Tom Torlakson to keep fighting for a plan that invests in our public schools. Time now to take a look at the papers. A 4yearold is the first child to die after contracting the enterovirus. Elis parents say other than having pink eye, their son appeared to be in good health before he passed away. Eli was the youngest of three triplets. Leaving behind two sisters. His father describes him as a shy puppy who was full of love. The cdc says as of friday, there are 543 reported cases of enterovirus d68 across 43 states. Eli went to sleep perfectly fine. And didnt wake up from this virus. This is weve withbeen talki about it. Everybody is talking about ebola. This is certainly this is so frightening. Earlier, we spoke to the director of the centers for Disease Control. For people watching, for people with children, i know its in 43 states, in washington, d. C. What should they know about this . Yeah, bottom line is, its a new situation. We havent seen this kind of widespread transmission. It does tend to fade as the fall goes on. And what tends to happen next is flu season. Its time to get a flu shot. Make sure that you wash your hands. Dont go out if youre sick. Cover your cough. If your child has asthma, make sure their asthma is well controlled. Thats what weve seen in some more severe illnesses here. How could a 4yearold boy go to bed with pink eye and not wake up . What is this virus . I cant comment on that individual case. What i can tell you is weve seen quite a wide variety of symptoms from mild to severe. For those with severe disease, most of them have been children who have had asthma or other respiratory problems that have been made worse by this infection. The San Francisco chronicle, one of silicons valleys Largest Companies will split into two. Hewlettpackard will divide its printer and computer business from its corporate hardware business. The company is trying to stay relevant as the pc market continues to change. Hp currently has more than 300,000 employees. Is on track to hit 112 billion in revenue this year. The San Diego Union tribune. California voters will decide how to scale back the states prison population. A new measure would transform multiple nonviolent crimes into misdemeanors punishable by brief jail time rather than long stays in a state prison. If approved, the measure, entitled proposition 47 would apply retroactively, lowering the penalties for thousands already serving time. Voters will desicide on the measure. Youll see this in one state after another after another after another. States. Voters are going to look at criminalization of not just marijuana but other substances and actual possession itself of drugs that 20 years ago would have put you in jail for 20 years. I just think theyre going to say, come on, enoughs enough. People want to do that to themselves, let them do that to themselves but why should we be paying for them in prison for 20 years. You look at the prison overcrowding problem and you look at some of the sentences. If you are pulled over in your car in some states with a little bit of marijuana, say, you can go to jail for five, six years. I dont think most Common People, people of good sense, think thats a good idea. Its insanity. The daily mail. A japanese zoo now knows why its attempt to get two spotted high y hyenas to mate. It turns out both were male. This happened to me in high school and i couldnt figure it out. What are you talking about . I just thought i was bad at the you know hamsters . Hyenas . No, they were hyenas. It was my science experiment for ninth, tenth, 11th and 12th grades. Flunked out of high school. Zoo Officials Say they were told the pair were of opposite sex when they acquired the animals from a zoo in south korea. Despite several attempts by the zoo it seems cant you just look . Breeding behavior. This prompted the zoo to conduct tests to determine the animals genders. Why do you have to conduct tests . Test was they lifted the legs u and then they could see. Wow, okay. What, what . What did dan just tell you . Its very hard to tell. Its hard to tell on hyenas. Lets go to the miami herald. The coast guard has rescued a man trying to make his way to bermuda. He wanted to outline the Bermuda Triangle in a bubble called hydrapod. You know what, this guy deserved to have the hydrapod pop and drown. So it has a metal frame and allows the user to run on water. Similar to a hamster well. 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La quinta inns suites is ready for you, so youll be ready for business. The ready for you alert, only a laquinta. Com we have live pictures from omaha, nebraska, where a fifth american diagnosed with the ebola virus just landed at the Nebraska Medical Center that will treat ashoka mukpo, a came cameraman with nbc news. Also, staff writer with the hil, lees veback joins us as well. Dr. Sachs, have you been watching the debate here on morning joe . Ive been watching part of it. The Washington Post article talked about all the missed signals from the w. H. O. And the spring then in late july. There was a horrifying part of that story that youve touched on before. And need for more money, for Better Oral Health care. Where you have people on the front lines not even having the basics like latex gloves, basic protections. This is an epidemic that can be brought under control in a relatively straight forward way because its not transmitted by air. Its not transmitted in a way that measles or other very Infectious Diseases are why is it spread so quickly . It spreads only if people that are infected are not put in some kind of isolation clinic where they can get some treatment. And so if the local system is completely overwhelmed so that people dont go to clinics, theyre dying at home, their families are taking care of them. When theyre buried, the bodies are not being safely managed. Then you get an epidemic. If this is kept under control, so that a person is potentially diagnosed and potentially infected is diagnosed and then put some place safely so why hasnt that happened . Because these are impoverished places and completely underresourced and nobody pays attention until an epidemic breaks out. You had warnings before the epidemic broke out, warnings that were ignored. I have spent my life saying you cant leave people without basic health care. West africa is a place even a year ago i tried to get funding for Health Workers in liberia of all places. This is before the epidemic. Ive been told, we have no money, this is the wrong cycle. Why did the w. H. O. Fail so miserably in picking u the signs early . I think two things. One, they made mistakes because earlier ebola epidemics have kind of controlled themselves. Second, they are at this point in turmoil because of budget cuts. Cdc also is experiencing big budget cuts right now. We dont invest in these things, joe. We take it for granted. Things are fine until a crisis. And these places are chronically underinvested right now. You look at any list of whats potentially a disaster for the world. Epidemic diseases right at the top of the list. This is a natural security issue. Of course it is. This is a Human Security issue. Its a National Security issue. This should not be an issue for republicans or democrats to fund the cdc. Interestingly by the way health care has been an issue where both republicans and democrats for Global Health have tended to support these initiatives. We havent invested an adequately. Even though i think if the government asked for it, we would get that kind of backing. If we would try to put a constraint on flights going in, that could actually impact the very help that the place needs. You have a question . Im even wondering, theres such a huge amount of bureaucratic wrangling. I wonder if the w. H. O. And the cdc had all the money in the world. Were hearing stories of crates of medical supplies that remain on the docks in west africa. Were sending things over. Can you explain why that is . I can explain none of these systems works well in these countries. And everybody is scrambling to catch up. And theres no excuse for it. There really is no excuse for it. What can be done . I guess thats the question. We hear from the cdc that theyre going to stop it in its tracks. Theyre saying they can stop it here. Theyre not saying they can stop it there. How much longer can this go on . It will be six months, a year . By the way, if we dr. Sachs, if we dont stop it there, do you not agree with dr. Brantly who testified last week that were kidding ourselves to believe that the Atlantic Ocean is going to stop ebola from coming here. If we dont act more gue aggressively to stop it in wet africa. We surely should be stopping it in west africa for the sake of africans and to stop the spread, period. So of course it makes no sense. And it is possible to stop this epidemic. It is a matter of basic systems to be put in place very, very quickly. And they could be put in place quickly. And its not really understandable why theyre not being put in place. When we talk about that, the infrastructure we depend on in our country and what we depend on with the cdc is not the expectation we should have from these western african countries. Why supplies are sitting there remaining undelivered is a head scratcher to a lot of us. Thats a case, by the way, just specifically where some individual mobilized mobilized a container and sent it. Thats not a system response. That was an its no excuse for it sitting at the port. But there arent systems that are adequate. Im dealing with these governments right now. Theyre completely overwhelmed. Even the u. S. Military thats gone over there, it seems im not completely up to date day by day. Theyre basically still building the first facility. Theyre not getting ahead of this epidemic. So we need a more systemic scaled emergency response. The money is there. We should be sending transport planes with the all of the equipment thats needed, the protective gear thats needed. The pcr machines for diagnostics. Whose feet is this falling on, not being more reactive . Right now, nobody reacted really at scale until september. And now theres kind of scrambling between the u. S. Government, which includes cdc do you feel like the president gets it . Is the president adequately engaged for your yes, for as far as your for a president dealing with 1,000 issues, hes more engaged than you would expect from many president s. There, i was with him at a meeting with the u. N. Last week where he spoke eloquently and passionately that we have to respond. I dont understand though. I have to say why certain basic things arent being done. A massive flow of protective gear, of systemic training. I know because im a part of part of it. Im not seeing the response that i would expect to see. Its crazy. It is crazy. Were trying to figure out where the levers are and the buttons are to move. Im sending a team this week to guinea to help on the information systems, to help on the stockpiling. I know that theyre intent on doing things but theyre overwhelmed right now. Its very hard to understand why there isnt a larger its an airlift kind of response. It is an airlift. Were talking about west african countries. I remember even during katrina. I remember being in cities that were affected and you would go out to the suburbs and the red cross would stockpile all of these supplies while people were Walking Around five miles away in the cities living in deplorable situations. Thats in america. Joe, one thick thats important is the focus on really controlling the response to the epidemic which is controllable, but not isolate these countries to the point of completely breaking them. Right. Were watching this is an nbc news freelance cameraman who is being delivered he has ebola to omaha now. He has just walked off the specially prepared plane and gotten on to a stretcher and is being brought to the hospital. There are two workers that are completely dressed in medical gear that protects them from coming even close to touching him. And hes being wheeled into the ambulance and we will follow this story as his progress proceeds. The other gentleman in texas who came to this country from liberia and has ebola is in very Critical Condition. And not doing well. As you can see in this case, this patient could walk off the plane. Hopeful signs. And his parents and his family and his girlfriend are waiting for word that he has been transported to the hospital. We will keep you posted on this. Jeffrey sachs, thank you so much. Stay with us if you can. Up next, breaking up isnt hard to do in silicon valley. Well tell you the latest tech Company Heading for a big split. How one company cashed in on millions thanks to an Insider Trading scheme and the billionaire who got entangled in one of the biggest financial scandals in history. More morning joe is next. So i can reach ally bank 24 7, but there are no branches . 24 7 its just im a little reluctant to try new things. Whats wrong with trying new things . Feel that in your muscles . Yeah. I do. Try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. 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Want to start with the jobs report . Its been described as goldilocks. I know it was out on friday. The market had a huge day on friday. So were really setting up for what some people are saying could be the perfect job i dont want to say the perfect economy, but the perfect job economy in a sense where it was good, it was better than expected. Were starting to see some longer working hours. That should ultimately translate into higher pay. Eventually, your employer can only squeeze so much productivity out of you before having to pay you to stick around or hire somebody else. It wasnt so hot that the Federal Reserve might have to come in and say, maybe we need to raise Interest Rates sooner than expected. The economy is getting too hot. Thats why we saw the big day on friday. We have to wait and see whether or not that continues. As youve been hitting on, theres so many other stories to focus on. Hong kongs out there. Ebolas even out there. This enterovirus which is getting no attention at all. Were very worried about that. I am for my own reasons as a dad. Lets talk also about gas prices. We may actually see a drop in gas prices moving forward into the fall. Its great news actually because this is really a tax on everybody. Its very regressive. The lower your income, you pay the same amount of money for a gallon of gas. Go new jersey. Its the only thing were cheapest in the country for. Theres a number of cities now where its less than 3. This is just money right back into your pocket. Look at that headline. There you go. May dip. Hey, get in the time, boston hera herald. Hoarder, brian sullivan, why dont you stay with us for the next segment. The staff writer who writes in the new issue about the downfall of the hedge fund, sec capital advisers. Patrick sets the scene with a conference in 2008 where two pharmaceutical Companies Representing the lukewarm findings of an alzheimers drug. He write, in the eight days proceeding the conference, he had liquidated his 700 million position in the two companies and then proceed to short the stock, to bet against they, making a 275 million profit. In a week, cohen had reversed his position by nearly 1 billion. The details of the Clinical Trials had been a closely guarded secret. Yet sac had brilliantly anticipated them. Cohen had suggested that his decisions about stocks are governed largely by gut. But federal authorities had a different speculation. That was, patrick . The what happened is the sec basically flagged these trades and started looking into them, trying to find a connection between somebody at sac capital and somebody at one of these pharmaceutical companies. They found a doctor who had been communicating with a young Portfolio Manager who worked with steve cohen. This led to the conviction. Whats the status of steven cohen right now . He is not charged with any crime personally. His fund has been rechristened. Paid a huge multimillion fine . A huge fine. They pled guilty to criminal charges against the firm but not against him personally. Theres still an sec for failure to supervise against him. Saying he may not have traded on Insider Trading himself, but he didnt supervise employees. Hes still in the game, hes still one of the big players, right . Very much. So portfolio he handled now is this is the thing. In the agreement with the federal, they say, well no locker invest outside money, well just invest steves money, which is 9 billion. So theyre doing okay. Hes got a day time job, hes doing all right. How much are you covering this . Weve covered it a lot. Even with all the Big Personality Hedge Fund Managers out there, steven cohen was difference. Steven cohen famous for a few things. Hated noise. He removed all the fans from the computers. Absolute silence on the trading floor. Everyone sat in a circle. He kept it at 60 degrees so you had to wear a jacket. If he didnt like what you were doing, he basically yelled at you. He could run in, close the door and i guess live there for a week or something. This is a guy famous for putting a hockey rink into his greenwich connecticut mansion. Hes got one of the biggest art collections in the world. His firm, by the way, still has a couple billion of his own money, so hes not struggling. Steven cohens doing fine. Sounds normal to me, 9 billion. So he paid a lot. But, you know what, all in all, the price for whatever he was doing seemed to pay off, right . Hes out of the woods. The other thing about sac, there was this policy called down and out. If youre a young person would goeses in and works for him, it goes one of two ways it you do really well, you make money, in which case, youll become rich. Or if you lose money, youre fired, youre out. Its really sounds like a great working environment. I like it. Thomas . Im just thinking the arrogance of being able to shift around 1 billion and think thats not going to cause as if nobody would notice. You know, and this poor doctor. Was in his 80s. Was basically badgered over and over again. He finally kind of caved in under the pressure. Nobody wants to be badgered. Now had to resign in des grace. After a lock career at michigan. The new issue of the new yorker. Fantastic. Coming up, she may have scattered the Glass Ceiling when they became the director of the secret service but at what cost. Maureen dowds latest column may surprise you. Thats next when morning joe comes right back. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. Its no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. And during the big tire event, get up to 140 in mailin rebates on four select tires. birds chirping softly in background. loud engine sounds what hows it going . 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Maureen dowd writes in the New York Times about the director of the secret service, Julia Pierson who stepped down last week. Too many secrets. There was a lot of talk about why she was hired in the first place. Some reports indicate she was hired for the optics. She was a woman and that was the reason first and foremost, let alone her qualifications. They needed a woman to change the culture. Maur read writes this, it is true women often get top jobs after the institutions have lost their luster. In piersons case, she earned her abrupt exit. Its no blot on the copy book of women. She helped paper over fiascos at an agency where mismanagement and denial put the president s life and his familys lives in jeopardy. Pierson shad eshattered the gla ceiling, but she also helped shatter the concept of an invulnerable guard. There was talk about gender in this story all along and whether or not it played a role in her choosing. Thats right. I think its important to talk about the glass cliff, this idea that maureen dowd brings up. Studies have shown in struggling companies, its women and minorities who are most likely to be promoted to chief executive. We dont know why that is. I think theres a question of whether these people feel other opportunities will come to them down the line. Whereas maybe white men feel, ill have plenty of opportunities, i can turn down this one. Whereas someone like pierson may have felt she needed to step into that space because she wouldnt have gotten the opportunity otherwise. Wasnt she hired to tone down some of the behavior happening for the secret service as they were taking their out of the country road trips and this was supposed to give the appearance that mama was in charge maybe and was going to give a better structural road trip mandate for how things were going to be happening on the road. And now we learn that there were some other things going on behind the scenes and there were some bigger security issues. Talk about the culture. And when you change the culture in an organization, i often think it doesnt help necessarily to bring someone from within the culture up. We have no idea if any of these were the reasons for all the debacles weve seen. Bringing in someone who has completely different experience and maybe doesnt even fit the job is something that i think wasnt considered here. Wasnt considered. Elise, certainly the one interesting thing that came out of this is you had bipartisanship on capitol hill. You look at those hearings and thought, theres one thing both sides can agree on. I think problems with the secret service were pervasive. There was nothing she could have done, although clearly she failed as a manager. Ring ring . Progresso its ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. Its our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. 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Welcome back to morning joe. Its time to talk with what we learned today. Mika, youre going to see Fleetwood Mack tonight. I am. I cant believe it. Theyre back. Theyre back. Thats exciting. Taking jim and his friends. What did you learn today . Just more off the piece thinking about Julia Pierson, how we consider the secret service to be such a high standard, such a high bar. Such apex human beings. There are fallibilities. Im wondering how long the Ebola Outbreak is going to last. Really, i think it could go on for another year. Im going to go on to a lighter note. And say my dance worked. Look, theres you and me, thomas and joe. Well, im over there, i am not involved and im not involved because, you know what, im going to come up with the royals dance and the cardinals dance and were going to see how that goes. Well do it friday. Thats the next time they play, right . They are, yeah. The royals will be in baltimore. You guys, if its way too early, its morning joe. Stick around. We have luke russert straight ahead. Breaking news this hour, the latest ebola patient arrives in nebraska for treatment. Were live on the scene for the latest on his condition and the fight to stop the spread of the virus. Meantime, a major isis advance that could radically change control of the conflict. Well have an in depth look on how exactly the terror group raises its funds. Plus new being shoulding poll numbers for sitting senator, just 29 days left. And iowa grabbing all the attention on iowa. Good morning from washington. Im luke russert. Its monday, october 6th, 2014. The breaking news in the Ebola Outbreak. The fifth american infected with ebola has just arrived for treatment. Just moments ago, the ambulance carrying nbc freelance photographer ashoka mukpo arr e arrived at nebraskas bio containment unit. Mukpo landed at omahas eply field half an hour ago in a specialized medevac jet from west africa. His plane steered clear the main terminal and stopped in a remote part of the or