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The rangers will host the flyers. Avalanche with the wild. Way too early and morning joe starts right now. You can do whatever you want. The little i ask you is not to promote it and not to bring him to my games. Black people cant attend his games. [ boos ] i couldnt have said that better myself. Folks, im shocked that sterling would perpetuate the cruel stereotype that white people are genetically superior at basketball spectating. [ laughter ] oh, let me guess because our muscular skeletal structure makes it easier for us to pump cheese. That is racist. And everyone has expressed outrage, folks. Even the clippers players made a statement. Clippers players staged a silent protest dumping their uniforms on court and wearing the jersey inside out and concealed the clippers logo. They concealed the beloved logo of the clippers which we all know is [ laughter ] i want to say a guy getting a hair cut or [ laughter ] a toenail clipper with googly eyes. [ laughter ] good morning. Its wednesday, april 30th. Good to have you on morning joe on this beautiful day. Its may tomorrow. Oh, gosh. Its so cold. And lots of terrible storms across the country. Well be talking about that soon. Also, barack obama and obamacare, yet another poll out. This time, nbc news wall street journal poll. Well well see how that lines up with the abc News Washington post poll. It wasnt great use. Plus, did you guys see this, star wars do we have any star wars nerds on the set . Yes, im old school. I wasnt triled with the trilogy but Old School Star wars yes. How about theyre bringing back Harrison Ford, mark hamill and carrie fisher. All three in the seventh star wars movie. This was in a reading yesterday. A script reading yesterday. You can see Harrison Ford to the right of j. J. Abrams. Carrie fisher two over at 3 00. Mark hamill at about 10 00, 11 00 oclock on your screen as well. Mark, are you a star wars nerd . Im looking for jar jar banks. No jar jar banks. I like it fine. I have no figurines. George lucas has been banned, i think, from this. R 2 did 2 is going there, too. 30 years after the end. Of return of the jedi 1983. No darth, though, hes gone. Yeah. Can they bring him back now . No. Its star wars assisted living. No they had that ghost scene at the end. Flashbacks. I think billy madison, too. They yeed a bobby ewing situation. It was all a dream. Anyway, mike barnicle, msnbc and time senior political analyst, mark hamillton, and the reverend al sharpton in d. C. , anchor for news america and coauthor of the confidence code ckatty kay, why dont you get us started. Im just worried about that thats a very bbc look. With the hair on both sides. No, lets get a look at news. After promise due process by Donald Sterling, nba commissioner silver delivered a Swift Response to the racist remarks. The views expressed by mr. Sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. That they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage in my personal outrage. Accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. Sterling for life from any association with the Clippers Organization or the nba. Okay. So what this means, in practice is, no practice, no games. He cannot be at the clippers facility or weigh in on any personnel decisions. He can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. Thats on top of a maximum 2. 5 million fine. Thats pretty nominal considering that his estimated net worth is around 1. 9 billion. But the question of how long sterling will own the clippers is also in doubt. I will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. Sterling has reportedly told fox news jim gray that the team is not for sale. And he will not be selling the team. With that said, several groups do appear to be interested in purchasing the team with bidding expected to exceed 1 billion. Magic johnson, boxer Floyd Mayweather jr. And david geffen are all said to be among the interested parties. Farce the actual team the clippers had to prepare for game five of their playoff series against the golden state warriors. Following commissioner silvers announcement, the team posted this message on their website simply reading we are one. And last night, the game began without delay. Something that almost didnt happen. Both the warriors and clippers and possibly the other four teams playing last night were all reportedly going to boycott last nights games if they were unsatisfied with silvers ruling. Willie geist, the nba moved very quickly. Everybody is talking about the hammer dropping on this guy. They really didnt have much of a choice, did they . No, adam silver did the right thing. Whats to know about him, people say, oh, my gosh, hes only been on the job for three months. Hes been at the nba for 23 years. He serve ted right hand of david stern. He knew this league. He did it the right way. He authenticated the tape. He made sure he had all the information. He did pretty much the maximum that hes able to do. He needs three quarters of the owners to vote. That would be the last piece of the puzzle. The guy has 1 but 8 billion, mike barnicle, he doesnt plan to move anywhere. Donald sterling is a very litigious person. He sueden officer whatever left, business. The nba is probably getting ready to go to course against Donald Sterling. They will win. Theyll force him out before they get to court. One of the reasons, al, that it the nba had to do what the nba had to do is because they sat by and let this guy act in about hornet way since the early 1980s. Long of the owner of the clippers. Everybody knew this guy was, very least, racially insensitive. Hed been sued by elgin baylor. Everybody knew the nature of this guy. Nba had to move quickly, didnt they . They did. I think they made a very bold and appropriate move. But i think the question that you raise is one that were faced with now. I havent been watching because last night, leaders of those and heads of civil Rights Groups met in the Congressional Black Caucus chair to talk about how do we make sure that there are things put in place in the nba that we make sure these kinds of things doesnt happen again. So as they go through forcing the sale and whatever litigation comes up, what are we going to put in place where a sterling doesnt reoccur . We cant keep going from incident to incident. We must really build in the infrastructure, box of where we are. Were in a time now where you have gays now playing in pro ball. You have all kinds of inclusion. We cannot have a league or any kind of sports where you dont have inbuilt mechanisms to vet these things out and avoid these things from happening. No doubt about it. Were going to be talking about this throughout the three hours at 8 00. At the top at 8 00, bob costas is going to be here. Katty, lets move on to polling. Bad news in the form of a abc News Washington post poll, now, nbc is out and gives us more ideas on whether the bad numbers on obamacare or the president were outriders or not . Yeah, it doesnt look good. The brandnew polls from the nbc news and the wall street journal. Overall, 40 . 50 disapprove of how hes handling his job. Compare those numbers from the abc news and Washington Post poll, it puts the president deeper under water. 41 to 55 . Thats the lowest approval since the start of his presidency. 36 say the law is a good idea. Thats up one point from last month. 46 , still, though, say its a bad idea. The abc news poll has the law upside down. 44 approval, 48 disapproval. On Foreign Policy, 37 back the president s handling of the situation in ukraine. According to nbc news, thats a sixpoint drop from last month. By the way, 45 disapprove of his approach. The abc news poll showed similar results, 44 to 36 split. Overall, 65 of those polled by nbc news say the countrys in the wrong track. While 27 see things moving in the right direction. Neither of these polls, joe, looking great for the president. Mark har hall. Theres this dissonnence between voters. Between the wall street journal lets pull back and draw back. And frustration with the president s ukraine policy. Its kind of hard for the white house to square. Well, its difficult for any president to be working hard on a Foreign Policy issue and not having people rallying around him and encouraging him. And that is in the second term, the president would like to be able to show strength because domestically things are frustrated too. Theres not a lot of good things to say from the president s point of view. It suggests the midterms are going to be a big problem. And it suggests that hes not going to be able to get a lot done if the numbers stay like this. The things he wants to do, immigration, Climate Change require a strong president. How connected is for people that dont follow it closely, how connect said the president s Approval Rating to results in the midteller election . Its probably the thing that people think is the biggest indicator. If the numbers are as they are now, the water will have a hard time doing well. The danger is that these numbers are artificially high in the sense that the president s big on support. Going about as low as he ever gets in any poll since he took office. The problem is a lot of that support comes from places where we werent seeing contested races. His numbers are lower than the National Number in arkansas, north carolina. Louisiana, alaska. And even iowa. And other places. Colorado where the Battleground Senate race, and the governors races are. The white house needs the president to be in a stronger position by november. These numbers suggest hes got a lot of work to do. The more he works on Foreign Policy, again, David Axelrod has made this point, the harder it is for the country to rally and feel better about him because theyre just not interested as the journal points out. And we heard a couple weeks ago that obamacare, Affordable Care act, 8 million is going to cause a big uptick on this. But right now that doesnt seem to be the case. We talked about it yesterday with the abc poll that it at 44 . Now the nbc poll says 36 think the Health Care Law is a good thing. And democrats were going on to run on it in certain races but still largely unpopular. To my eye, the most vulnerable point of this poll, the most dangerous point of this poll, Midterm Elections or to the presidency itself is the 63 wrong track number. Thats it. Its a pretty big number. Its been stubbornly high. Youd like to think with were a president with accomplishments it would be lower. But its stubbornly high. No doubt about it, again, well see, though, the president has been to the low to mid40s. And everybody was preaching doom. Read the opeds in december of 2011. I saved a couple of them. Theyre pretty funny to read. Talking about the disaster that was going to befall barack obama. Youre right, there is a base. Hes not going to go in the low 30s and 20s like george w. Bush. Or the mid30s. That 40 of the country love or is with him. So, this will turn out to be, at the end of the day, a turnout operation. If the midterms the 54s are older and wider and more conservative as they are. In every Midterm Election there will be problems if the Obama Administration can turn out what theyre able to turn out as far as the turnout operations in 08 and 12, theyve got a shot of holding the senate. Well, what do you do to stimulate the turnout in Younger Voters the way they did in 08 and now . I dont think theyre going to. Theres another piece of replicating the obama model. Youre right, one, turn out operation and get the coalition ascended to turn out. The other is to destroy the republican candidates the way they destroyed mitt romney. Its going to be hard to destroy that. Like the Koch Brothers its not going to work. Its not going to work not because of the Koch Brothers, its not going to work because these congressmen and senators get a chance to get in front of voters. It gets so hard to nationalize these elections. Well, the democrats try not to maximize it. Its to cherry pick every individual republican and to to do Opposition Research and say what can we do to disqualify this person . Make them a koch brother ally, whatever it is. Thats their hope. And its their best hope. Because if it is nationalized, if it is a battle of the economy and Affordable Care act, the democrats will lose. Coming up on morning joe, weve got a lot to talk about. Bob costas on his ideas on how the nba can force donald sterth to sell his team. Hes going to be at 8 00 eastern. And David Axelrod. Governor tim pawlenty and dr. Brzezinski will be here. Also, i want to talk about what happened in oklahoma last night. Absolutely horrific. Coming up next on the political playbook a decision whether to hold vote. And struck in legislative limbo. Also news you cant use. But first, bill karins with a check on the forecast, bill . Joe, i know you have such a great interest in families and friends in the pensacola area. Theyve never seen a flood like this, joe. Theres people down there saying how horrible this is. And were talking about, you know, the water records go back at least 60 to 70 years. And the flooding going on right now is worse than any hurricane weve seen. I mean, thats how bad it is. The totals that weve seen are upwards of one to two feet of rain in the pensacola area since last night. And the last 24 hours. Mobile has been very bad. They had a lot of water rescues there. Look at this image, joe. This is Downtown Pensacola last night. Water on the sidewalks at least two feet deep. As we go throughout the day, these pictures will come in. 10 is closed throughout the region. You cannot travel on it. There are cars stuck for six to eight hours. They literally cant go anywhere. Theres a river rung over i10 to pensacola. Again, this is all associated with that same storm system that brought us tornadoes in the last couple of days. We got away with that. Heres one of the pictures from rob mcgayen. 24. 4 inches of rain for this event. Two feet of rain just northwest of Downtown Pensacola. We did see tornados in eastern north carolina. Thankfully, we didnt whos any lives with those. If youre on the east coast from new england to the midatlantic, a lot of rain today. A lot of airport delays. But it shoun be too bad as far as tornadoes are concerned. Just a few strong storms. 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And there, and there, and there. La quinta inns suites is ready for you, so youll be ready for business. The ready for you alert, only a laquinta. Com la quinta welcome back to morning joe. You know, willie, a shot of mika there where is mika there cannes. For the festival . Yeah. Shes got a film . Does she really . Yeah. Documentary on vacations in the south of france. No cats around the house. Remember when she had the cat in here . Yeah. Cat in the bag. Cats in the bag. Cats out of the bag. Whoo what a story. It is. Its a story of transformation coming of age. In the south of france . Yeah. I think you better call mika and let her know if shes aware of this or not. The New York Times say prosecutors are close to filing charges against the worlds biggest banks, chris bank suisse is under fire for offering tax shelters and bnb paribas. Feds say its to finish banks without putting them out of business. And twitters stock hits a new low. Despite the fact that the service actually added 14 million monthly active users. And its revenue nearly doubled in the First Quarter. Stocks were down 10 in afterhours trading. This may be a sign that twitter is to remain a niche service. And usa today, federal governments could lose 47 billion if Congress Fails to add to the highway trust fund. The money currently in the fund goes only to existing projects. The funding comes from the federal tax on gas and diesel fuel. But that has not been raised since 1993. Great for the countrys infrastructure. The New York Times a Top International Olympic Committee official says the preparations for the 2016 summer olympics in rio are, quote, the worst he has experienced. The comments add to mounting concerns the countrys not prepared to host the event without international assistance. It also comes just weeks, of course, before the country is set to host the world cup. The ioc will send outside experts to monitor progress in brazil. I was down in rio recently, they say its all going to be fine, on time and budget, willie. So, katty, do you believe that . Are you going to go down with your family and just kind of hang out in rio and watch the world cup . Wouldnt it be great to be there for the final in rio . For the world cup . Even if it was chaos, it would be great. I do not know id want to take my 5yearold. Different type of chaos. Were in search of a different kind of chaos. Yeah, the question is, why brazil hosts the world cup in 14, the olympics in 16, its clearly not ready. Certainly on the world cup, some of the stadiums just dont look like theyre going to be ready on time. And the olympics, the inside word is they say were going to start on the olympics. Lets get through the world cup. Well, that leaves you less than two years to get ready for the olympics. It it will be a scramble but it always is with the olympics. It comes as a shock. I think when they were awarded we thought no problem. Just like Russias Putin that went smoothly. And mr. Halperin, the play on veep im sure you heard that mr. Allen. Lets talk business. Harry reid said democrats are holding talks about a vote to prove the Keystone Pipeline. Is that actually going to happen . Theyre actually going to have a vote. And this is a real surprise. Its a sign of how worried democrats are about the senate. Yesterday, i was out at the milken conference in los angeles, did a poll, including a lot of democrats, asking them what they thought the chances were republicans could take every 0 the senate. Nate silver said around 60 . Dave leonhart said around 61 . The democrats i talked to said its more like 60 . They are worried about a republican senate. So you have harry reid saying he might take a vote on approving the Keystone Pipeline. Whats not determined is, will this be something thats binding will this be more a sense of the senate, as they call it. But the key fact, 11 Senate Democrats have signed a letter to president obama saying they want him to approve it by the end of may. Theres a bunch of states where democrats are in danger where a voter for the Keystone Pipeline would help. Mark, a Manufacturing Base of america, a transformation of this economy when we become the number one producer of oil by 2020 according to the wall street journal. Natural gas just exploding. Democrats really could be on the wrong side of history here. I just get the sense, in my gut, that the most ideological wing of his party is going to sit back and fight and scratch and claw. And you see it already, them trying to stop the president from approving keystone. And i think most americans are going to go, jobs . Cheaper Energy Prices . An increase in the Manufacturing Base . I just you know, the ideologues go, keystone is only going to create three jobs and these just outrageous claims. And i dont think americans buy it. I dont think most americans buy it. Not just most americans but a lot of democrats in congress who are on the far left of the party agree with the things you just listed. Look, theres substantive issues here. Its hard for a weak president to get anything substantive through. They want to do something on energy efficiency. Some people want to do keystone. I dont think it will have an effect on the midterms. I dont believe its the Energy Package we need to bring about the Energy Revolution youre talking about. But youre right, the white house to some extent is on the wrong side of this politically. And harry reid is crafting as he always does to get them in a better place. I dont think its a big deal for the republicans, i really dont. Reverend sharpton, no approval, no decision, what do you think . I think mark is right. I really dont think it is going to be all of that, either way. But i think its going to be the political football that harry reid has got to play in terms of taking it off the table. So it doesnt appear to be something that is really is not. If it were to pass. It could be used in the elections. And in a negative way, against the democrats. The Environmental Concerns and all of that that many have is a question of who can outmessage the other. Its better to take it off the table, and that harry reid can have a vote that really doesnt impact one way or the other. It takes it out of the politics. Midterm elections is about turning out your base. Polls are good, but its turning out your base. And i think the more you can avoid things that really have no impact and drive your base up, thats whos going to win the Midterm Elections. I think democrats will have to say to their voters we wont be able to confirm, cabinet members if some of the cabinet members leave early. If we get a Supreme Court, we cant confirm people they go and argue whats at stake here if we lose the senate, they could drive out their base. Mike allen, its kind of interesting as the reverend was pointing out how the Environmental Concerns about the pipeline has been mooted over the past six or seven months in the quake of what joe was playing out, energy and jobs. Thats right, its partly because i think people in washington have assumed for a long time, all the signals that came out of the white house during the last campaign was that they eventually would approve this. Theyve now pushed it back past the election. I was surprised, the new Rolling Stone has a long piece about this saying the president finally gets it on the environment. The president is finally doing real things on climate. The sources in that Rolling Stone article say that they think the president will eventually reject that. This is a definite unknown. A definite mystery, in washington, something we dont often have. But i agree with the reverend. This is about cover. Giving the democrats cover. Theyre trying everything because theyre worried. Mike allen with a look at the playbook well see you. Do you think theres going to be a playbook reference in the new star wars . I would. I got to fill that darth vader void. Thats how to do it. Probably a shot of jar jar reading it. Robby cano returns to Yankee Stadiums boos, boos cheers. Look at that. Yeah. And former governor tim pawlenty will join the table. I always look forward to seeing the governor. Also ahead, well show you what you get when you combine a monkey, plus live tv. What happens here now . Is it a good idea if you provoke monkeys on the morning show . No, dont do that. Cant wait to see how this turns out. Be right back. But jim has afib, atrial fibrillation, an irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. That puts jim at a greater risk of stroke. 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For more information and savings options, i tr ied for more information and savings options, depend last weekend. It really made the difference between a morning around the house and getting a little exercise. Unlike the bargain brand, depend gives you new fitflex®, our best protection. Its a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra strands. Get your free sample at depend. Com. Welcome back to morning joe. Time for some sports. Weve got governor tim pawlenty to talk politics and all the rest. Hes such a sports nut, we thought hed led him do sports. Good morning. Warriors clippers. We talked about the pregame. And sterling banned for life. Deandre jordan leading the way, 2518. The clippers got it over golden state. Saluting the crowd on the way out. A 32 series lead. Head coach doc rivers spoke about the team drama surrounding this game. I thought, you know, you could see them get tired a lot. I thought that was from all the emotional, you know, baggage the last four days. You think its just the players. It was the fans, too. Everybody was going through this. It was almost like everybody wanted to exhale tonight. And it was good. Thats a great coach. And a lot of it around this table know a great man too helped his team weather the last four days. An important footnote, the story is well covered and of course, sterlings an idiot. Some learned lessons from rim, the grace and care and balance that he reflected and maturity through all of this, doc rivers is a real diplomat for basketball. You know that mike barnicle, you spent a lot of time around him. The grizzlies playing the thunder in game five. Okc down two in the final seconds. 15 seconds to play. 70 to shoot. 5 to shoot for conley, off the screen of gasol. Westbrook picks his pocket the other way. Four seconds remaining. Score time at 90. Russell westbrook rips mike conley. Ties the game into overtime. Memphis has the lead. Final seconds, thunder gets one last chance. Coming to the ball, durant. For the three, backed up by butler. Rolled in. It rolled in at the buzzer. The thunder think they have won the ball game. Bill spooner says no goal. And again, they will review. Theyre going to need a more definitive look. Well, no, they dont. They say no basket. Memphis has won game five. Wow. That would have been the gamewinning basket for oklahoma city. Waived off. Memphis wins 10099, theyre up 32 in that series. Wizards beat up the bulls. They won that series. 41. Theyll get the pacers or the hawks. The way its looking, its going to be the hawks. The pacers will be dreadful. Lets get to hockey. Game six against the rangers. Phillies, scoring three goals, hat trick. 52 over the rangers. They head back to new york for the deciding game. Another upsetting game. Governor pawlentys got his eyes on this one. If youre going to say minnesota, you cant emphasize the i you got to drag your o. Forgive he. Against colorado its been a great series. Im hoping for minnesota. Patrick wild, the new head coach, has done a great job. Every team has won on the home ice except the last game. Whos your favorite of the playoff teams . The minnesota wild, chicago is looking great. I thought the st. Louis blues, chicagos looking good. I got to say boston bruins, even though first half of the year, even they looked wobbly, theyve come on strong. If i had to predict, id say chicago and boston again. Willie, packed last night, a lot of people looking for two games. Of course, jeters final game its going to be huge. Cano coming back to new york. Seriously, you know, i always go in the subway to go up to see the kids at the orphanage, uptown, i could not get on there because of so many people going to the game. Was it emotional . It was. It was a cleansing, you know for three hours. Like bronx sardines. Grizzly night. Is it still april . It feels like a minnesota. Former Yankee Robinson cano left the team in the offseason as many of you know made his return to the bronx last night with the seattle mariners, heres the welcome he received. Look at these people. Here comes robinson cano. Robinson cano. Theres three people there. The top of the first. It was raining last night. Look at these seats in april. Cano went 1 for 5. Look at the seats. Corey hart on the right. La, la, la they won 63. Sparse turnout, cold, rainy. Look at that. Small market. Well, there are only 20 Million People in the metro. How could they fill that . Same with the mets. Obviously, this market is not big enough to support that. That photograph was tweeted out by colin barnacle, the son of mike barnicle, rubbing it in the face of the yankees. 8,000 seats by the way, i agree, going to atlanta, that looks like it looked when bob warner would hit a foul ball or dale murphy down the right field line. And we would zip down, wed race from home plate, im serious, all the way to right field, going after the ball. Thats how it was being a mets fan in the late 80s. Youd yell to your buddy across the arena, hey, jeff, after the game yeah, thats what its like being a yankees fan. Still ahead on morning joe, what is next for the clippers now that the nba is looking to force a sale of the team . How hard is Donald Sterling going to fight this thing. Well talk to bob costas, neil rhodon and espns kerry champion. And the must read opinion pages including maureen dowd this morning. I wonder what happened with the monkey . [ male announcer ] staples has everything you need to get your clients attention. From brochures to business cards to banners. Everything. Except your clients attention. Thousands of products added every day to staples. Com, even bullhorns. How much . [ male announcer ] staples. Make more happen. For 175 dollars a month . 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Yeah, maureen dowd writes in the New York Times is barry whiffing, stop whining mr. President , and stop whiffing. We understand its frustrating youre dealing with some really evil guys and some really nutty polls but that being said, you are the american president and the american president should not perpetually use the word eventually. An an american president should never say as did you monday in manila, you hit singles, you hit doubles, every once in a while, we may be able to hit a home run. Once you like to have the stage, mr. President to have the aura of the lone man in the arena, not sharing the spotlight with others. But now when captured alone in the picture, you seem disconnected and adrift what happen to crushing it and swigging for the fences . What have you gone, babe ruth . Tim pawlenty, does not seem to be pleased with barack obama leadership right now. When you have maureen dowd, youre losing her and youre a democrat, thats not a good sign. The president hasnt been at his highwater mark. He needs to crystallize issues or some issues are going to crystallize him. Shes obviously talking about ukraine. Republicans have been critical of the president. Obviously, most people in the Republican Party dont want to get involved militarily. I think with respect to Foreign Policy, you cant run it by polls. Joe, theres dissonance. Theres a chunk of the country that wants less engagement. The president has to put the first principle first which is to keep the nation safe and let the polls decide whether that was right. Obviously, not going to deploy the military in the ukraine but dr. Brzezinski and others have said, we need to be more aggressive with the sanctions, frankly with the europe mean allies including germany. And we need to dial up the heat. Its the message that gets sent to russia with respect to iran. Its the message with respect to syria. Its the message sent to russia with respect to the nuclear arms negotiation and defense. It has a cascading effect. If you show a bully weakness, and you give them weakness, theyll take it. Where do you stand in the right year for substantively take that on . Im a supporter of reform, mark, but were not going to get it done this year. Its going to fill into 2014. Unfortunately. Republicans should, if youre going to talk the talk of being the working class if we have a minimum wage, it should be reasonably adjusts from time to time, for all the republicans who talk about were the blue color and for the workers there should be basic things that theyre for, and thats one of them increases in the minimum wage. Before we go, you heard the conversation, i wont talk about everything you guys discussed. But jeb bush, is jeb going have to trouble getting through . Well, the classic question can a quote unquote established candidate get through a an increasingly conservative party. People say, no, it can never happen. In mccains case a compelling personal story and a gritty performance. In mitt romney case, obviously a man of great talent but tremendous resources and infrastructure. Jeb can do that but its not going to be uncontested in so many runs. That last name is going to be tough. Party has shifted. Its not so much the tea party. Its a libertarian wing that paul represents. You wouldnt have predicted mccain or romney won last time. They did. Thank you so much, governor. On the nomination. Exactly. Story of my life. Coming up, a lesson for tv anchors. Now, i didnt know this, willie. Dont tease the monkey. Socrates said that. Socrates . Yeah. Goes all the way back to the 18th century. Our priority has always been saving the day. Because our priority. Amazing . Is you the amazing spiderman 2 delivered by the United States Postal Service. [ banker ] sydney needed some Financial Guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. 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Walter isaacson and sports columnist for the New York Times bill rhodon, and from bristol, connecticut moderates of espns first take cari champion. Thank you so much for being with us. Katty, why dont is he go ahead and go to the news and then take it around the table. This is getting a lot of attention around the world, joe. After promising due process to Donald Sterling, nba commissioner adam silver delivered a swift and severe judgment against the owner for his racist remarks. The views expressed by mr. Sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. That they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage. Accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. Sterling for life from any association with the Clippers Organization or the nba. Okay. So what that means is, no practice, no games. He cannot be at the clippers facility or weigh in on any personnel decisions. He can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. And thats on top of a maximum 2. 5 million fine, pretty nominal really considering his estimated net worth is around 1. 9 billion. But the question of how long sterling will own the clippers is now also in doubt. I will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team. And will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. So, bill, sterling has said hes not selling the team. Yeah. He doesnt plan to go anywhere. Right. Hes got 1. 9 billion. And he loves suing people. This could be a bloodbath for the nba. Guess what, a lot of owners, everybody is going, yeah, wait a minute, what about me . What happens if you got some guys in florida who are supporting an antigay campaign. I mean, where does this end . So now you see a lost owners, cuben is starting to back up saying, yeah, the guy has got it go. But on the other hand, this is kind of a slippery slope. Youre right. Its one thing to make this announcement. Silver did the only thing he could do. Youve got the president weighing in. Michael jordan, lebron james. If you did anything other than this, youre going to have a moral train wreck. But now this is where the fun begins legally. Because if you know sterling at all, he didnt get to be a billionaire by laying down. You know hes going to fight this. Right. And cari, nba really didnt have much of a choice, given whats happened with this guy around the front office for years now. But at the same time, the nba it might be a lot easier to hold that press conference than actually get him out of that position. Yeah, thats absolutely right. You see, what were forgetting is, through all of this, Donald Sterling has been silent. He said nothing. And if i were a betting person which i am not, im sure hes at home with his legal team deciding the next plan of action. And when we do hear from him, i doubt if he will go quietly into the night. Hes not known for that, as mentioned earlier. And theres a lot of Different Things that we havent even addressed here. Could in fact they transfer ownership to his wife . Will the league in fact take over . Think of the courts. This is something we could have dragged out in courts for years to come. You know, walter, the nba commissioner has banned this guy for life from the league. But you cant ban racism for life. And endemic in our culture, no matter how many times you say were going to have a conversation about race, we never have that conversation. What does this do, this entire flap do, in your mind to that continuing nagging problem in American Culture . Well, it it can be a good learning experience. I think the president said it well had he talked about, you know, you have to look at the fact weve had these things happen over the years, over the decades, over the century, but now its outrageous when it happens. We say, this cant stand. I can remember 20, 30 years ago, somebody would get away with saying Something Like that. So these things help lance the boil of that. But we should also deepen the conversation a little bit and say, all right, what about the racism thats still hanging around. I was going to say, this honl happ only happened because you know, it was illegally recorded thats the way it is in this digital age. This guy was allowed to discriminate. Right. For 30 years and nothing was ever said. But the good thing weve lanced the boil a bit. And when you talk about the other owners and whether or not theyre going to force him to sell, the other owners are going to get away with not forcing him to sell, that will really hurt that owners reputation. You make a great point about where do we go from here. Because, you know, we get so hung up in what he said. Youve gone to a lot of press boxes. You can make the same statement, you can say what he said, a lot of different ways. I go in a press box every day. Baseball press boxes and football, and it looks like 1955 in terms of no black faces. I tell the players when you get a chance walk through your office. Go through the sales office and the Public Relations department. And what youll find out people say the same thing that Donald Sterling said, but they are not clumsy about it, they just do it. What we arent addressing, i think this is really smart. Im sorry to jump in here but i have to say this, the reason why adam silver came in so hard, guys. This is clear. Its not that its about sterling, if we think that this is the only person in the nba that feels that way, were kidding ourselves. And so the reason were calling this the silver hammer is hes saying this wont be tolerated anymore. And sterling isnt alone. Do we actually think about the person who actually called sterling to tell him what was going on in instagram . It could be someone in the organization. It could be someone else in the league. We have to say i know that hes not alone. That this is continuing to happen. So thats why he had to come down so hard on him. This is still something thats really still an issue in our country. We have a huge problem discussing race. It should be something at the forefront, something that we want to talk about without hiding behind it. Katty. I was going to ask cari, he was banned against those remarks. What did you think the way he was talking to his girlfriend. This guys attitude both to women and africanamericans is just horrendous. Listen, i grew up in los angeles. Im a huge lakers fan. But i went to clippers games anybody in sports within that city, knew this man, ran into this man, his reputation with women is just as atrocious as his behavior. Hes known as a womanizer. Its almost as if he was jealous. It was jealousy. It was the racism. It was the how dare you present yourself this way, youre supposed to behave this way as a woman in public. It was very controlling. It was awe the things that you dont want to see in a person. And i dont know if youve heard, the young lady has come out and she is not his girlfriend. She was just a good friend of his. In fact, she feels really bad for him and that they were just buddies. I dont have a buddy that buys the luxury that shes in. And gives me range rovers. She says it wasnt that type of relationship. Back to the tape. Very disturbing how he was so controlling in deciding who she could be with. Again, its bizarre. Unbelievable. A buddy that buys a bentley. Thats a buddy to have. Or not to have. Espns cari champion, thank you so much. Greatly appreciate it. Katty, lets move to oklahoma. Officials in oklahoma are look the at last nights botched lethal injection of clayton lockett. Lockett was sentenced to death for watching two accomplishes bury a woman in 1999. Reporter lockett was said to be executed using a new experimental cocktail of three drugs. When the president administered the first drug, a sedative to lockett. At that time, we began approaching the second and third part its in protocol. There was some concern at that time that the drugs were not having the effect. Reporter Courtney Francis of nbc station kfor witnessing the execution with other reporters said president officials declared lockett unconscious at 6 33 p. M. But over the next six minutes, eyewitnesses said lockett still appeared conscious and was struggling. One of the things he said was somethings wrong. He said man at one point. He kept trying to raise up. The 6 39, hes still lifting his shoulders and head off the gurney. Grimacing. Reporter then eyewitnesses said prison officials closed off their window into the chamber putting locketts execution on hold. It sounds as if the vein stopped working after the first drug was given, so that the paralysis and the medication to stop the heart, they just never worked. Reporter prison officials said lockett suffered a massive heart attack and died at 7 06 p. M. Locketts lawyer who initially sued the state for refusing to release information about the prison drugs said prison officials are to blame. They wanted to get it done with as little transparency as possible. This is what they get. Reporter in a statement, Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin called for a full review of oklahomas execution procedures. And ordered the execution of a second inmate Charles Warner to be delayed 14 day. Joining from us washington senior Political Editor and from the Washington Post sam stein. Sam, this is going to get people taking a closer look at lethal injections which some people, i think, mistakenly believe are somehow more humane. You read the accounts of this. You read the account of the way that you know, the states are now scrounging around drug addicts trying to find the right combination of drugs to execute, suddenly it seems like a very shoddy, haphazard way to do things. And what happened to this guy last night, regardless of the heinous things he did in his life amounts to it looks like from the description, amounts to torture. Can amount to torture and is clearly unconstitutional. Yeah, all of that is true. In fact, theres some states where theyre having such trouble getting their hands on these cocktails of drugs that theyre actually thinking about going back to firing squads and gas chambers which was another story in the ap last year but the big story is the political back job, the governor of the state, governor fallin, had pushed the Supreme Court to not have a stay of execution. The spreement court had granted a stay for the defense of these two people who committed heinous crimes said they wanted to know what was in the drugs so they could determine whether it was cruel and unusual punishment. The clerk gave them a stay. And then going to instruct to go ahead anyway. I have not over the past couple of weeks read the oklahoma constitution, but i dont think weve studied that in law school in florida. But can a governor just decide on her own that a Supreme Court decision is null and void . Well its complicated. Obviously, theres a constitutional crisis at hand. The states court of appeals have ruled that the stay shouldnt be allowed to happen. And because a weird quirk in the Oklahoma Court system, she said the court of appeals have the jurisdiction and not the state Supreme Court. Other way, they were on the brink of a prosecution crisis. And the Supreme Court basically acquiesced and said go ahead with the execution. In fact, one in oklahoma had threatened to bring articles of impeachment for justice on the court for staying the execution. Thats how thirsty for the execution some of these lawmakers were. It turns out they did not have proper information how toed asister the drugs. And only now retroactively is the governor saying yeah, we need to study whats going on here. Listen these guys committed heinous crimes they were convicted and sentenced to death. But the politics had pushed for this to happen but its coming back to biting them. The constitution is a constitution is a constitution. Exactly. Walter isaacson, this is not a right left issue as much as it was, say, 30 years ago. You had people Pat Robertson starting to move against the Death Penalty and brought in evangelicals over the past several years. This is a case thats going make people willie geist and i were just talking on set. Were bending overbackwards trying to do all of these things that are not cruel and unusual. You kind of wonder if gary gilmore had it better. Thats an older reference. With the sapphiring squad, whether thats not more humane. It does make us reflect on the constitution that says no crucial or unusual punishment. Thats something that changes over time. The definition of whats cruel and unusual changes. This will start a conversation again because clearly lethal injection when the Drug Companies are not going to supply the drug. You dont know where the drugs are coming from. By the way, thats important, walter. Thats whats causing these problems. The Drug Companies are now refusing to supply the drugs. And it is causing people to so you have a group of legislators or a governor who is hellbent to get something done like that, and then this happens, its also a conscious center saying this is more complicates. We also have to note that just yesterday or two days ago maybe, a study came out that its likely that 1 out of every 25 people executed by Death Penalty are probably innocent. So were actually executing innocent people. This is a bigger conversation that we need to have about how we treat the people on death row. I wonder, bill, if in the state of oklahoma and the legislature they have as much intensity towards education, as they do seemingly some of them are about improving their Capital Punishment system . Yeah, first of all, im at the point, i think that what this is going to do is reenergize the opposition. This was i mean, im conflicted also because im thinking of the families. Sure. And revenge and no penalty could be terrible. But when you look at 100 years from now, when you look back on our society, and you look at how we deal with each other, the br brutality and punishment. Some of this to me is so sad. Im not necessarily saturday for the guy what he did, just the human quality of this. And again, i wish i had an answer. I wish i knew how to deal with this. Well, theres one thing, mark, thats always been in the equation when people talk about Capital Punishment. Of course, the first thing you think about is the victim or victims family. But in state after state, the lack of true certainty of punishment, in some states you get the Death Penalty, or you get life in jail, but life in jail means 25 years. The certainty of punishment, life in jail means life in jail. That might do something to resolve this age old thing. The bigger issues that bill raised about the victims and the question of the Death Penalty being administered fairly, all of that needs to be discussed. The governor has to solve this. Mary fallin is a national leader. Shes a member of congress. The legislatures have rules. Courts have rules. She has to begin to unravel went what wrong technically but restore confidence in the Justice System because this so undermines what is already a tough issue in the country. Sam, really quickly, just so Everybody Knows the guy that was on death row, the guy that had a heart attack last night and died shot a 19yearold woman and buried her alive. Again, a heinous crime. That said, its not as if there werent heinous crimes when our Founding Fathers drafted the constitution there is a clause that prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. And in this case, again, when you have this chaotic process, where the drug manufacturers wont even give you the drugs. So youre going out and youre creating these cocktails which in the end didnt put this man under last night. So according to the reports, he suffered agonizing suffocation and pain. And, yes, just like the 19yearold woman who was buried alive. We understand that. But theres a difference. Sure. I mean we are the United States of america and we have a constitution. But its supposed to prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. Again, im not preaching against the Death Penalty. Im saying is this no way to administer consistently our the constitution. Listen, you can find the way this execution was botched to be utterly grotesque and not feel sympathy. You can still believe in the Death Penalty. I dont think those two are in contradiction at all. One other thing for fiscal conservatives throughout there was a study that came out, i think in kansas, where executing people actually costs four times more for the state than it does to keep them in prison for life. Just because of the legal appeals that constantly have to be made for any execution to flakes. Its cheaper not to execute people than execute someone. Sam, greatly appreciate it. Bill, appreciate you being in here. Go penns. Ill explain that later, yes. Sam, actually is staying with us. Coming up after the financial plans of 2008 almost destroyed the u. S. Economy, one banker, just one, went to jail. Well going to tell you who that fall guy was. And the real reason why more havent been prosecuted. Up next, chuck todd is here to break down the brandnew poll numbers showing problems for president obama, obama care and democrats in 2014. And well see if theres any more for the president and the democratic poll. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. No matter what kind of business you own, at t Business Experts can help keep it running. Seamlessly. So you can get back to what you love. When everyone and everything works together, business just sings. Make every day, her day with a full menu of appetizers and entrees crafted with care and designed to delight. Fancy feast. Love served daily. When la quinta. Com sends sales rep Steve Hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. You know what he brings . Any questions . Can i get an a, steve . Yes three as he brings his agame the ready for you alert, only at laquinta. Com what is this place . Where are we . This is where we bring together reliably fast internet and the best in entertainment. We call it the x1 entertainment operating system. It looks like the future we must have encountered a temporal vortex. Further analytics are necessary. Beam us up. Thats my phone. Hey. [ female announcer ] the x1 entertainment operating system. Only from xfinity. Tv and internet together like never before. And welcome back to morning joe. Look at that beautiful view. Mark halperin, doesnt that make you want to its like i postcard. Picture postcard. Ill tell you what, april 30th. Unbelievable. Youve got one day until may. And maybe its been over 61 so far this month. Thomas, welcome. Hi. Are you going to bring sunshine . I wore this tie to force the spring. With us from washington, d. C. , we got nbc news chief White House Correspondent and host of the daily rundown chuck todd. Chuck, were going to have katty get to the latest poll. What do you have . Theres a new poll thats just come in from nbc. But lets start with the overseas numbers. 37 approve of how president obama is handling the situation in ukraine. Thats a sixpoint drop from last month. Just 19 of americans want the u. S. To take a more active role in World Affairs. Nearly half favor less active approach. Those numbers have changed significantly from back in 2001, by the way. The poll shows 38 approve of that president s handling of Foreign Policy. Thats the lowest level of his presidency. Overall, the president s job Approval Rating stands now at 44 . Thats a few points better than last months record low. That could weigh on democrats, though, heading into novembers midterms. Overall, 63 of those polled said the country is on the wrong track. 27 see things moving in the right direction. And, of course, whoever inherits the white house in 2016, thats going to be a concern for them. So far, Hillary Clinton is far outpacing two of her owe terrible gop rivals when it comes to favorability. The foresecretary of state is viewed significantly more positively than former governor jeb bush or senator rand paul. Chuck todd, obamas Approval Ratings holding pretty steady. Affordable care act stuck in the mid30s. Whats it mean . Its an Important Development in the last six months, joe, if you look at it both the president s Approval Rating and the health care numbers, basically the Approval Rating of the Health Care Law are at sixmonth highs. Meaning theyre basically back to where they were the week before the website debacle. We were in the field, basically government shutdown, right when before we new the website was a total disaster. But it was like 36 . Thats my point. And it had gotten worse over the last six months. The point of the poll is this, joe. The poll numbers are better, theyre still not good, okay . There is slight improvement on the Health Care Law. And that directly related to slight improvement for president obama. Because what was amazing in this poll, i dont think ive ever seen this in the history of our poll, the president s rob rating on the economy and rob rating on Foreign Policy are both lower than this overall job rating. Its unique that the sum is actually greater than the parts. Usually one of the two is dragging him down. So in this case, you see that basically health care is the driver for him now. It got him back to just barely underwater. Versus before, i think he was much farther and a much better place. Chuck, twopart question, one, do democratic strategists think they can do well number with the president s numbers where they are now and whats the strategy to improve the numbers . Well they still need to get better. If you look inside his numbers, for instance the president s job rating those undecided on the generic ballot are is at 29 . The generic ballot is 4545. You can argue its not high enough to improve there. However, when you look at the makeup of the president s job rating and the improvements that were made, they were made in sort of the Democratic Coalition that democrats need to do well. And in particular, women. The gender gap. Whats interesting here, while republicans are stronger, a little bit stronger, among men than they were in 2010. They are in a much worse place among women than they were in 2010. So you do see this gender gap growing even bigger. And that is a way, potential, at least to not do as badly. Thats an Important Development for democrats as well as these increased gender gaps. These are important, obviously, the programs are important to future. And help me assess this. I was talking to a fairly prominent person in american life. A person who i had to call late in the afternoon in november of 2008 to tell him that the exit polls indicated that barack obama would be elected president. And he called me back later that night, election night, crying, he was so happy, with the president. Yesterday afternoon, he was telling me how disappoint he has been in the Obama Presidency of late. What do you think rumbles beneath the surface of these numbers with that story . Well, i do think theyre going to end up getting better. I mean disdain for the Health Care Law because so much has been said tab. A lot of misinformation, but as millions of people get health care it will go. I see that with louisiana. Mary landrieu is now saying i was in favor of health care. Likewise, cities in this country, unemployment has gone down to 5 . Youre getting cities starting to recover. I think the president s approval rate will go go up. Theres a level of disappointment. Theres a disappointment, historically, when you look back and say, okay, we got out of the financial crisis. We have a boon of energy which i think we should exploit more and use against russia, frankly. Weve also had a health care thing thats going to end up being good for this country. Historically, its go to be better off for the polls. Obviously, well know more in the november midterms. And how that pans out. As we look at the numbers and as they play out to who people like for 2016, it looks like Hillary Clinton is the big leader here and nobody can catch her, at least in this poll. I remember the same discussion in. 20 2007. Obviously, shes in a good position. Liberals, these not the liberal candidate, theres going to be someone who runs to her left. I just dont see it. You talk to a lot of people wary of betting into the race because of her money advantage. To barnacles question, the reason people are disappointed with the president is because he overpromised and destined to deliver. I think thats obvious. If you look at the numbers with respect to what hes done, especially on health care, things are improving in terms of the realm of public opinion. If you look at the numbers how people want to keep the minor fixes, thats only 48 . Theres 28 that want a full repeal. The numbers are evening out a little. I think the republicans feel that its nontenable. I agree with sam. The people yelling for total repeal of the law are the ones that are going to hit the backlash. You have a may have trend right now which is on economic opportunity. Economic equality. Whether the pope or anything else. I think republicans and democrats can come together to try to clear that. But if that doesnt happen, i think thats going to be obamas narrative for the next couple years. We shall see. Chuck todd, before i let you go, the wall street journal has a headline americans want to pull back from the world stage poll says. Talk about that. You saw katty read that one number, 47 want us to be less active. We gave people a choice of what type of Foreign Policy that they want from a president. And while they want a president to be strong be a little more confrontational, they dont want us to be more involved. I think it actually explains the president s job rating, right . Which is the more Foreign Policy is in the news, the more they just dont like it. So they dont approve of what hes doing in russia, thre38 o there. But ask them overall, theyre fine with it, theyre fine with the president s own style on Foreign Policy. I think youve got a little bit of a confused electorate, other than they just dont want to be involved. They just want to retreat. If the government gets involved overseas, they dont want to hear about it. Thats the other thing that the president has. They dont want to hear about it. After years of war, you can certainly understand. Chuck, thank you so much. Were be checking you out on the daily rundown. Sam, thank you as well. Greatly appreciate it. Were going to keep talking about this. Davidaxelrod is coming in at 8 00 on the east coast. 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Imagine that six inches of rain in 45 minutes. Theres no water in the world that can add up that much rain that fast. Its starting to slowly move out now. Even destine got nearly a foot of rain in the last 24 hours. Panama city, flash flooding going. Mobile was horrible last night. They had amazing water rescues done by the firefighters. The rains going up the east coast. The worst of the flooding is by far down by areas of north florida. Its interesting we didnt get the tornadoes yesterday but we did have this horrible flooding. And were still actually recovering from the tornadoes that we belt with two grace. We want to go to nbcs dylan dreyer in mississippi where everyone is still getting out of the shock stage, arent they . Reporter they certainly are, bill. But get thing is theres a whole different feel to the air in pearl, mississippi. Weve lost that humidity indicating that there are no new storms in the forecast today for this area. Residents were allowed back in this neighborhood to begin to sift through the rubble and try to pick up some of the pieces of their lives. Unfortunately, the same cant be said everywhere. Those deadly footing conditions continue as the storms slowly spread east. And people realize the devastation from these storms and let that settle in. From hell to high water. Firefighters had to rescue this man from a fastmoving creek in mobile. As lightning lit up another stormy night in the south with hundred us of reported strikes from the mississippi delta up into georgia. Its touching down. Its touching down. Reporter more than 130 twisters reported since sunday. From kansas. Did you see what happened to our house . Reporter to north carolina. We ran into the house. And trying to hurry up and get everybody in the bathroom. Reporter but a branch which hit this house came crashing in. The human toll is growing with more than 30 people dead, among them john servati a swimmer at the university of alabama. Friends say he died a hero holding up a concrete wall long enough for his girlfriend to get out from under it before it collapsed on him. John did great things every day. Of the fact that he does that did not surprise me. Reporter and did wassom, an iraq war veteran shields his two young daughters. He loved his girls, loved his wife. Reporter wassoms father found his sons photo in the wreckage. Man, he was a good boy, guys. I wish you knew him. Reporter in pearl, mississippi, Angie Coleman took us through whats left of her mothers home. This is her place. Reporter she said her mother usually ignores the warnings. But what made her leave this time . She had her grandbabies with her. Thats the only reason they left. Reporter they got out safely and later found the dog they left behind at a nearby animal shelter. I love you. Reporter now, since sunday, the biggest concern has been for all of those tornadoes, more than 130 tornadoes as you just heard. But now the concern is for that flooding. Like what were seeing in the panhandle of florida. These storms are very slow moving, bill, as you know. And now its the east coast that could see perhaps an isolated tornado but its more a threat of Straight Line wind gusts and more flooding as the rain comes down. Dylan, thanks so much. What a fourday stretch. Finish it up with flooding and as you mentioned isolated tornadoes appreciate your work there in pearl, mississippi. Joe, you got the gift ost of it. How about this heroic rescue. A firefighter went across the river just in a life jacket and a rope to drag that man across the raging water into safety. That was in the middle of the night in mobile, alabama. Thank you so much, bill. Do appreciate it. Coming up next, how only one man took the fall for the worst economic collapse in financial history. Reporter jesse icinger from the New York Times will explain that straight ahead. And Barack Obamas poll numbers are hitting lows but is there hope for the embattled president . Is this a defining moment for this white house . David axelrod is going to join us and tell it what it mean for control of the senate straight ahead. Red and seventyseven thousand dollars per minute. Thats what big oil made last year. Now theyre spending it to rig the system against you. Pushing washington to cut americanmade biofuels. Bullying gas stations to use more of their oil. All so they get richer. And you pay more. Truth is, biofuels are cleaner, better for your engine and less expensive. Washington, dont let big oil rig the system any more. Protect the renewable fuel standard. [ banker ] sydney needed some Financial Guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. So we talked about her options. Her valuable assets were staying. And selling her car wouldnt fly. 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What happened was, he was a trait trader and executive at Credit Suisse. Some of his traders lied about the portfolio. And Credit Suisse walked this in the door in the Southern District of cork. The u. S. Attorneys office in manhattan. Thats basically how they got him. And they didnt get anyone else. So my piece is really about him. But also about why this hasnt so, answer the question, what a lot of americans wonder, how can it it be, that with all of the criminal behavior going on in wall street, leading up to acce september 15th, 2008, nobody but this poor guy went to jail . Well, theres sort of many theories. I dont think its conspiracy. I think what was was learned incompetence. Essentially they had a decade of fiascos and mistakes and adverse rulings. And that took away their skill set to not only is that the prosecutors . Were talking about the department of justice as a whole. They went through a series of fiascos over the decade starting with arthur anderson. Right. And they took bad lessons from that and they pulled back the investigative capabilities. How much did the transference of resources or lack of resources, within justice, specifically the fbi after september 11 have to do with seemingly turn a blind eye to wall street . I think thats a big deal. The department of justice was undergoing hiring freezes at the very moment when the investigation into the final crisis were gearing up. They have unwound the postal unit which was an expert unit on complex financial investigations. So thats one of it. But there was a failure of will. They were very worried about losing. And so they could have done more with the resources they had and they didnt. Katty kay is in washington and has a question. Katty . Think it not conspiracy theories. I was wondering what you thought about elizabeth warrens piece in politico where she points to the close ties in washington and particularly the white house and people on wall street and some kind of suggestion that theres political expediency and thats why they havent gone after wall street and banks as hard as they might have done . I think the bailout was certainly a major mistake because they sought to preserve specific institutions, so that was questionable and had to do with their ties. I think the dog prosecutors had to do with those ties. We saw a major prosecutor just going there now. You get ten times. They start off money minimum sa you start off with a Million Dollars as a lawyer and youve been making 100,000 as a prosecutor. You dont really want to piss off the people who are hiring you. What type of criminal activities should they have got i dont know . What i walk through in my piece is something about leman brothers. Its a classic thing when your bank is teetering, youre going toly about the cash on hand and what they did was systematically tell the market things that turned out to be obviously and identifiably untrue, that basically said we have liquidity in stuff they actually pledged its collateral. This was the two cfos of lehman brothers. They could still be caught . No, its all over. They did not even question in a serious way three offices of the department of justice and they didnt question the Liquidity Pool disclosures. Jesse, thank you so much for being with us. We greatly appreciate it. Were going to lock for the article in this weekends New York Times magazine. Coming up, well have bob costas at 8 00 joining us. David axelrod will be here, joy reed and i think we may be able to drag chuck todd back to talk about the president s latest poll numbers. Keep it right here on morning joe. I dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home. 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With us on set, a man who is youve kind of taken of residency at fenway this year. Bob costas. Hes mr. Fenway park. Three times already. Youre a bad luck charm. Please stay away. In truth, theyve lost all three games. And a good luck charm, host joy reed, host of the joy reed response. You know theyre listening to us. And you pick the phone up and say ill be in. And right, willie . Is that how it goes . In this house, that is the way it goes. Exactly. We dont have planning calls. Director of thence constitute of politics, David Axelrod. Also with us, chuck todd. Theyre going to be crunching some numbers and talk about what it means not on for the president for legislation as we move forward to 2014 but also for the election in november. First, willie, lets go to news. After promising due process to Donald Sterling, nba commissioner adam silver delivered a swift and severe judgment against the clippers owner for his racist remarks. The views expressed by mr. Sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. That they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage. Accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. Sterling for life from any association with the Clippers Organization or the nba. So what does that mean exactly . It means no practice, no games . He cannot be at the clippers facility, cannot weigh in on any personal decision, he can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. Thats on top of a maximum 2. 5 million fine, which is nominal considering his estimated net worth of almost 2 billion. The question is how long sterling will own the clippers. Thats also in doubt. I will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. So, bob, there will be a vote of the owner, requires three quarters of the owners to vote to oust sterling. It will be 290 or 291 if sterlings interests exercise their vote out of the 30 teams. Even if there are some owners that have some misgivings, not because they have any sympathy with sterling, but because they think theres something about the process that disturbs them, they cant run the Public Relations risk to in any way side with sterling. Sterling would be bound by that decision and the only thing the nba can do is ensure he gets fair market value for the team. Does this man that Donald Sterling, who has the history of being one of the most litigious people in america wont find some way to sue, i wouldnt bet against that. I think he made sure all the ducks were in a row before he made his decision. Hes only been there three mens or less it and that. I think the only thing he could do, he didnt leave any breathing space, there no criticism if you think sterling should be out of the league. The only criticism ive heard, there are some people concerned with the possibility that sterlings family could retain control of the team and you could have one of these situations where hes whispering in somebodys ear or calling from an unlisted phone. I dont think that will happen. I think they will line up a credible buyer, make sure that person passes muster and is above reproach. The nba has done what they had to do. But if theres any soul searching that comes out of this and any time something happens, they go now were going to have the conversation we should have on race and we never do, the nba has to answer some questions. Yeah. This guy obviously racially insensitive. Elgin baylor sues for racial discrimination. This was a very open secret, yet the nba allowed this guy to continue doing what he was doing until he was taped illegally. What does that say about the nba and david sterlings tenure . Adam silver yesterday said it. You have a guy thats got this behavior and this is a sanction being taken only for the specific phone call, not accumulated past behavior. I was a little thrown off by all the high fiving, i have to say, yesterday. There is no finality to this while, first of all, hes still profiting from the team, which has just become even more profitable, the more games they win in the playoffs, the longer they stay in, he could walk away with an 700 million, 800 million pay day and his family is still profiting from the team. I wonder if the nba all coale e coalesced to save the season and the profitability of the league. There was one guy who represents the players who say we need a timeline, a timetable, thats when this will be over, when this guy is no longer associated with the team. There are obviously larger issues than just basketball and one franchise here. One of those issues as bob costas and willie and joy just alluded to, there are other owners who knew about this guy, knew his background, the department of justice suing him. The issue is not just among nba onners but in our culture generally, they separate, other, that was donald in business. This is different now. Now hes really crossed the line. What he did, discriminating against people in housing, thats just business. Theres no question the attitudes he displayed on the phone the notion that he can discretely run the team by making phone calls, i think this is a guy who will think twice about making discrete phone calls in the future. I dont think he knows what a discrete phone call is. I think mark cuban expressed concern about where all of this goes. I dont know what the Business Practices of all of the owners of the nba are but i think if you start scrutinizing them, youre going to find issues with more than one of them. And bob costas, mark cuban said what he did for a reason. There are other owners who might have believes that might be offensive to corporations. Quite possible. I doubt anyone comes near to Donald Sterling. Im not being naive by saying there arent racist attitudes lurking in the shadows but somebody like sterling is an outlier. How could that happen . He bought in in 91, they regret it, they couldnt find a way to oust him without a court did they ever try before . I couldnt say but it wouldnt surprise me if they didnt lead him in that direction. I have to say in defense of david stern, no one is perfect but he ran the most Progressive Sports League in america for 30 years. You walk into the nba offices not five years ago but 25 years ago and up saw africanamericans and women in positions of real responsibility, real responsibility. It wasnt just on the court, it wasnt just in the coaching ranks. Its so common place in the nba for general managers, for coaches, for League Executives to be africanamericans that you get the ideal situation, its not news when theyre hired and not news when theyre fired. Bob, you know what strikes me . Ive been a season Ticket Holder for the Chicago Bulls since 1976. When i bought my season ticket, i think it cost 6 each, each seat. We had a very, very class mixed, racemeksed crowd. It struck me when i heard sterlings comments when he said dont bring blacks to the basketball game is we dont have great class and racial mix in the audience. So the truth is the nba has priced itself out. Yes. Theres some of that. Theres definitely some of that. Maybe if he had a more mixed maybe if he had a more mixed crowd, hed have at least to think about what he was saying. Thats one of the things that bothers me about the nab be in and i love the nba, is that the average fan, white and black, has been priced out of the arena. And at the owner level you dont have that diversity. And i do think that sports in general has been ahead of the rest of society often in our history in terms of recognizing the need to integrate and also just the experience of people playing together, working together has created more tolerance. But you also had a situation where doc rivers was working for a man that he must have known, must have experienced to have these horrible racial views. You have to wonder a little bit how can you tolerate a league that is predominantly africanamerican on the court, where you have a black coach working for a man who is demonstrably behaving in racist ways. Elgin baylors credibility id put up against his every day and the Work Environment the players may not have been dealing with this guy but the coach experienced it. You wonder why wasnt anything done over time . Those questions will be asked not on about what happened inside the Clippers Organization but also within the front office of the nba. Like you said, everybodys going to clean this up, theyre going to high five each other and then theyll have to ask how this guy was able to stay in power for 30 years. We have, chuck, the new wall street journal polls coming out, we want to talk about that, the president and the 2016 campaign. You asked the question of president obama on this issue. Tell bus about it. I gave him the option to comment. I thought what was interesting was he had a lot to say, he wanted to do that. After that press con presence in malaysia, i talked to a few of his aides and he was telling me he was prepping them and he knew everything about sterlings past, he had been following the story very closely and he saw the opportunity as a way to sort of raise the bar a little bit for the nba. He named by name dropping commissioner silver in there, to have him realize that this is the action that needed to be taken and hoped that whatever it took, you know, to have more public comments, add more weight to the issue, to encourage the decision that the commissioner ended up coming with. So it just was fascinating to find out how much not only that it want his staff prepping him but one of those cases the reverse. Thats how closely he had followed the story and how much he knew about sterlings past. I think in many ways the last four days have shown the strength of the nba, not just adam silver but magic johnson, Charles Barkley and a number of white players, too. Yes. This in many ways was a good moment for the nba. I think and i dont want to be naive here, but this guy is such an outlier, that i think is speaks well for the progress still plenty of progress to be made but the progress that has been made. No ones trying to make excuses for this guy, no ones trying to soft pedal what he did. There is strong, outspoken disapproval from every place on the spectrum, conservative, liberal, moderate, black, white. There may be guys lurking in the shadows like Donald Sterling but theres no place in mainstream america for these attitudes any longer. His biggest punishment is that hes a pariah. Hes 81 years old. I dont know how much longer hell be around. There arent many places he can go without people averting their glance for the rest of his life. Its a matter of time now for him in the nba. Please, as a yankee fan, keep going to fenway. I appreciate it very much. Actually go, to Yankee Stadium, they need the fans. I went to Yankee Stadium last night and they lost. You were one of the three people there. I had to call the game. There were about 5,000 people shivering. A little sparse. A little sparse. Weve been break down the nbc news wall street journal poll this morning. 21 of voters had a positive view of jeb bsh, 32 negative. And when asked about former first lady Barbara Bushs comments that there were quote, more than two or three offices that should run for high office in america, 69 agreed with that statement, 25 disagreed. Chuck todd, what stood out to you . I think what stood out was jeb bush. The last time we measured it, in the last year, his numbers have gotten worse, not better. Hes become more prominent over the last two or three monies, hes been more public, hes gotten more attention, partially because christie has had his on political problems but hes gotten attention as the establishment alternative frontrunner. You have to be concerned if youre jeb bush. As youve gotten more attention, your numbers have got i dont know worse, not better. As youve become more public, your numbers have got i dont know worse, not better. Hes okay among establishment, pretty much a 21 establishment rating. Among tea party republicans, he starts with a net negative and then contrasts that to rand paul, who is enormously popular with tea party republicans, which is half the party, has offer 50 positive rating. No other person right now that weve measured has gotten over 50 . These werent good numbers for jeb, especially when you consider the more prominent hes got i dont know over the last three months. The poll finds the world wants to pull back from the world stage. Youve always said thats not a positive for the president. The ukraine numbers, it seems like the americans dont want to be involved in Foreign Policy but they still expect everything to go wonderfully in Foreign Policy. So the president has a difficult situation with Vladimir Putin and suddenly his leadership is called into question. What do you, as a guy who has read far too many polls in your lifetime, how do you have dissect that and what do you tell politicians moving forward what americans expect from their Foreign Policy . I think one of the hangovers from the long war in iraq and afghanistan is people really have turned inward, that combined with the economic climate has turned inward. The reason rand paul is doing better than jeb bush is hes fundamentally antiinstitution every institution is polling badly. The military does all right, but theyre not doing as well as they used to be. And, secondly, people are turning inward. So we have a country that is more isolationist, antiinstitution, people feel theyre not getting a fair shake. The other thing id say, joe, about the point that chuck was making about jeb bush is jeb bush has two problems. One is the name bush, which is still not a popular name in our politics. The second is that hes an establishment guy but hes a guy who has been ready to take some stands on common core standards, on immigration, that are completely antithetical to the base of his party. I still think he could be a strong general election candidate, but im not sure how he gets through that process without making major, major compromises that would make him a bad general election candidate. Its very, very difficult to joy . The theory of the case for people around jeb bush, at least i talked to and im sure you know a lot of the same people was that at a srn point the Tea Party Wing of the party would become unpopular enough that essentially the party would come back to him and if he waited long enough, the bush brand would improve over time. That theory, the problem this that theory is the Tea Party Wing of the party is unpopular in the at large, but within the Republican Party its still the majority, its still very strong. So somebody like a rand paul is in a strong position. That is the paradox, the things that would make you a strong general election candidate make you a difficult primary candidate in the Republican Party. Until they solve that problem, theyre going to have a hard time winning a national election. Chuck, be the magellan for us. If jeb bush gets in on those first three or four republican primaries that he would have to endure. It starts in iowa. Weve already soon the establishment has ebb senssenti lost iowa three, four straight times. What works in iowa is an evangelical populist, Mike Huckabee won. New hampshire should be better terrain for him but new hampshire has a libertarian streak so you could see rand paul also doing pretty well there. The one up side for jeb is if hillary is not contested. But then you get down to South Carolina and, again, an evangelical populist is whats going to end up being more likely to win down there, not somebody like jeb, particularly if you look at the issues of common core and all this. I think joy brings up the correct point of whats sort of jeb bushs problem because of the popularity of the tea party. Now, that said, we may be going through a month, this month is going to be the biggest test the tea party has had in a long time for survival. They could get shellacked this month and not win in any test theyre contesting. I dont think the establishment beating them back will somehow still hurt the Tea Party Movement or at least the position that people agree with inside the party and thats going to be also troublesome for jeb. All right, chuck. Thank you so much. What do you have planned for the daily rundown . A will the more on the poll, more on the clippers. I got angus king talking about money. The Koch Brothers have higher name i. D. Among democrats and that they do independents or republicans. Theyre talking to themselves on the Koch Brothers. I dont think its penetrating with persuasion voters. Thats what ive always said about certain wings of my party. Doesnt really do a whole lot of good if youre just preaching to the choir. You got to actually turn around and talk to the congregation. Thank you so much, chuck. Looking forward to that. Joy reid, stick around with us if you can. Coming up, in ukraine, prorussian militants are storming offices and taking over more government buildings. Were excited to have dr. Brzezinski and David Ignatius back together. Well ask them if theres anything president obama a can do to get Vladimir Putins attention. But first, bill karins, whats the weather going to be like . Epic amounts of rainfall in southern alabama and this is from the pensacola area last night. I10 has been shut down for the last eight to nine hours, people stuck in their cars, cant move, just waiting for the water to recede. There is literally a river running over i10. Weep just got word that theyre going to open it quickly. Maybe they did already. Those pictures from mobile, thats a man clinging from a tree and the firefighter rescuing him. How harrowing is that . A weather watching outside of Downtown Pensacola, he had for the entire rainfall event, 24 1 2 inches of rain. No wonder that are dealing with historic event in the pensacola area. The fish river in southern alabama, that one just crested. Thats good. A lot of rescues going on there. We could see isolated in virginia, north carolina, South Carolina today and of course the northeast is cold and soggy and airport delays, hour maf in laguardia, two hours in philadelphia. Those delays will probably build throughout the day. Well bring you more amazing pictures from the gulf kcoast a we get them in. 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Whats the next step . For the United States . Well, whats the next step for this ongoing process that you dedicated a good bit of your life to, finding peace in the middle east. Well, if they cannot be resumed, which i assume it will still be attempted to do, we should probably go public on what our view of what a fair settlement ought to be like. I think we have views on the subject. I suspect the views we have would be supported overwhelmingly by the national security and probably by a majority of the palestinians and we shouldnt let some politicians over there paralyze the process for short, tactical objectives. Dr. Brzezinski, the president s plan to lead from behind with gadhafi seemed to work where you had the air bleed going out in front. Its worked in other areas as well and has drawn a lot of controversy. Isnt it yours position that when it comes to middle east peace, the United States still remains the indispensable power, it has to be engaged fully and has to be aggressive and has to lead . Absolutely. Look at the americanisraeli relationship . Were close friends, were financing the country on a huge scale, more than any other nation in the world, were arming it more than any other nation in the world so i think we have a say. In addition to it, were important in the region and the region is important to us. So we clearly have an enormous stake in the outcome. We have tried in good faith to promote negotiations in the par party, they have proven unwilling to be trustworthy. David ignatius, you have just returned from iraq and syria in the middle east. Obviously another round of bombings in iraq recently, more bloodshed and the Syrian Crisis continues. What did you find . Ive basically found that youve got civil wars in both countries. I talked to sunni Iraqi Military and political leaders who are waging a Real Campaign now against Prime Minister maliki in baghdad. Its reminiscent of the worst days in 2006 and 2007 when the u. S. Was trying to keep that civil war from breaking out and had some success. What a tragedy that after stopping the violence, the u. S. And maliki, the Prime Minister, have allowed it to continue. In syria, you have a brutal, bitter stalemate, those from refugee camps, meeting to talk to me, i have a feeling this is going to be a grinding war with thousands killed every month until the u. S. Has a policy. People say we should start talking to bashar al assad, but i dont think he can unite that country. The u. S. Really has no obligation but to be a leader. Everybody looks to the u. S. For guidance. We have David Axelrod in chicago. David . Dr. Brzezinski, i read your piece on the youve crane. I have a question about Vladimir Putin. One of the paradoxes here is he seems to be gaining political popularity in russia for his actions in ukraine. At what point do economic sanctions shift that, or do they . Does he shift the blame for them to the u. S. And does it continue to make him popular in his own country or can we erode his strength at all through economic sanctions that bring the russian economy down . I think we can. But only if it did no longer appear as his methods are successful. After all, he grabbed crimea by force but Nothing Happened from the International Community and the ukraine did not resist. Hes not destabilizing ukraine and they dont seem to be very effective in responding to it. As long as that goes on, probably hell have support from the russians who feel this is somehow or other a national selfassertion. But as soon as the sanctions begin to bite, i think that will begin to change and if we encourage the ukrainians to be firmer, by being willing to help them in republic cystisisting, providing defensive arms because there are indications the russians may want to swipe more territory and occupy the country. And last but not lease, at the same time we should offer the russians the possibility of a compromise. And in the article in the wall street journal to which i think you refer, i outline a compromise. Just if i may make one more point, i think the president by now should really speak to the country. This is a very Dangerous International problem, potentially really dangerous. The president needs to begin to focus the countrys attention away, say, from the nba to World Affairs and in particular to the challenge that putin posing to international instability. David ignatius, off of what dr. Brzezinski just said and off the fact that you just returned from iraq and syria, what did you find in iraq and syria, whats the level of expectation for the United States role in the countries you just visited. I was on the borders of iraq and syria but was actually in jordan doing this reporting. What i find is that people look to the United States in these increasingly chaotic situations for leadership and clarity. There really is no other country like the United States. They may hate us, be furious at us, but they still look to us for guidance. Do you mean weapons . There are lots of different places, in dealing with civil war in syria, some program of training and assistance for the Syrian Opposition seems to make sense to me and a lot of people. I think president obama has decided on that. Some additional efforts in iraq, done that through the uniformed military but other ways i think are ahead. In ukraine im struck by the way, as dr. Brzezinski says, obama is trying to find this rational path in which the u. S. Doesnt take risks beyond what the country is prepared to follow up p through on and putin keeps not responding. I think that putin is digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole in ukraine but i keep waiting for him to realize it and recognize the longrun problems hes creating for russia. David ignatius, thank you so much. Dr. Brzezinski, thank you as well, always great to have you. David, thank you very much as well. Joy, what are the president s options . I talked about leading from behind. Obviously this president is reacting to 12 years of war, reacting to what americans want, which is less of a role. But you like at ukraine, look at syria, look at iraq. He may have to get out of his comfort zone and get more aggressive. Im not talking militarily but diplomatically. There are two questions. The American Public tends to respond positive to the theatrics of toughness. We like our president to seem like the boss. But at the same time the American People dont want to actually get involved so walking that line is difficult. And this is a president who isnt that excited about doing the theatrics of the presidency. Hes more of a mechanic, wants to do the mechanics of it. On the mechanics of it, the president is doing the right thing but the theatrics on it, thats where the question is. And theatrics, whether youre talking about fdr, the day after pearl harbor or Ronald Reagan saying, mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall, theatrics is important and the president said it, i dont do theater. When it comes to Vladimir Putin, this guy is in it for the marathon, he has a sixyear term. Whoever gets the baton, theyve got to deal with Vladimir Putin. The traction he gets now on president obamas water is part of president obamas legacy. By the time 2016 rolls around, who knows where hell be. In 2008 he went into georgia, there are still Russian Forces in georgia. 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Sara eisen, whats going on with the stock . Investors were not impressed, even though sales doubled. Its the number of users that was a little discouraging. People are wondering whether twitter can have the same kind of growth and scale that facebook has, 255 million monthly active users. It was only an increase of 14 million. That was a little disappointing when it comes to Growth Prospects down the road. Also gdp, our nations economy only growing 0. 1 in the First Quarter, barely growing at all. We have to caveat that, it was all weather, cold weather hurt spending, hurt the economy. Well see what the Federal Reserve has to say about the economy. Today is decision day for the fed, janet yellen, well get a statement out of the fed at 2 00 p. M. And it looks like federal prosecutors are nearing criminal charges against two major banks, doesnt have to do with mortgages and the housing crisis, has to do with tax shelters and other issues, like doing business with banned countries like iran. So the two big takeaways, joys stock ruined shes ruined. Wall street has answered the question, no, they cant add more and the u. S. Economy flat in the First Quarter because of weather but look outside because its beautiful and warm and the sun never mind. Sarah, thank you so much. Well be right back with morning joe. It doesnt matter if there are granite statues, or big mahogany desks. When working with an investment firm, whats really important is whether the people behind the desks actually stand behind what they say. Introducing the schwab accountability guarantee. If youre not happy with one of our participating Investment Advisory services, well refund your program fee from the previous quarter. 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Five beers, two in the morning, two at lunch and one at the end of their shift. That, along with half a pack of rolling tobacco, about 13, and a hot lunch. The goal, to get them off the streets where they drink all day i have control of my life. Reporter got it. Its better. Reporter and into a daily routine. They have something to do, theres a reason to get up. They have contact, fellowship and theyre not drunk here. They only get five beers, which they need to feel not ill. Reporter to understand how a program like this would get started eahere, you have to understand amsterdam as a whole, a place with very little taboos. Even their home windows are rarely curtained. Their problems, all up for discussion. So your mom died, your dad died and two brothers. Reporter and you wanted to forget everything . Yes. Reporter ramone was sleeping on a Train Station floor before he joined the project. They all may still be drinking but they claim its a lot less than before. 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