0 welcome to "morning joe." with us on set former communications director for president george w. bush and former senior adviser for the 2008 mccain presidential campaign nicolle wallace, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst mark halperin, and in washington, d.c., senior political editor and white house correspondent for the "the huffington post," i think he would like calendar model in there as well, sam stein. >> he is hot. >> joe -- >> holy cow. >> yes. i think that's a word that comes up with sam. don't you think, guys? >> that is. the guy is so hot, how hot is the guy? this guy is so hot, he should run for comptroller of new york city. >> exactly. >> we are going to get to that, joe. i don't -- i'm not going to read them out loud. i don't know if you can see this. >> willie geist, what do we have? >> don't say willie geist, what do we have? >> better than that. >> it's -- >> hold them up. >> willie geist, read them. i am -- >> i don't like that one. >> mika, hold up the newspaper. >> "new york post," sleazy does it. and "the daily news" there. >> willie, "daily news," man, has some pretty good headline writers too. >> ellioiot spitzer on the show today. i have no problem with that. because we can ask him questions about all this. i think it's weird to have him on and not which is what we did once. but we'll do it the right way today. >> me kashgs not just the tabloids, the "new york times" has an editorial where they say eliot spitzer from the kardashian party. about his personal ambition and to leave us out of his personal journey to redemption. >> you know what, willie geist, you know what -- >> sounds like he's running for -- >> these people said the same thing about blago. this is offensive to me. why is it you got people that care, people that care, nicolle wallace, and all they do is get kicked around because they dare to put themselves and their family and their beliefs and values out there and all blago was doing is trying to give kids health care. same thing with spitzer. leave him alone. there's also tons of news out of the white house. the president on afghanistan, i know we're going to get to that, that is big news. of course egypt -- >> getting tough. >> continues, continues to move towards a crisis. a lot of news out of there. and so much more to talk about. i guess we got anthony weiner's main opponent, i know she's worked her entire life to be defined that way. christina quinn will be here. >> is a very interesting candidate. and i think the mayoral race in new york city is in many ways a great conversation on the set. first we begin with the latest on the catastrophic crash of asiana flight of 77 214. why the pilots came in slower than their target speed. tom costello reports. >> reporter: emergency chutes seen deploying in this new video taken after the crash of flight 214. passengers are seen running away from the burning aircraft as fire rescue crews pour foam on the fire. new video of the crashp. after ripping off its tail on the seawall the 777 seems to jump in the air and nearly flip over before slamming into the ground. >> i thought before i left the plane that it might blow up and i might die. >> reporter: a feeto of the teenagers from china killed in the accident. investigators are looking at whether one of them may have been hit by an arriving fire engine. on the ground, ntsb investigators have been walking the length of the runway inspecting a scattered trail of debris. the landing gear sheered from the fuselage and the interior of the plane itself, oxygen masks hanging, seats twisted and broken. >> the lower portion of the tail cone is in the rocks at the seawall. and there was a significant piece of the tail of this aircraft that was in the water. >> reporter: we learned that the pilot new to flying the 777 and his training pilot allowed their air speed to drop well below the 137 knot target for landing as they descended quickly. three seconds before the crash, the plane was stalling at just 103 knots. not a mistake you expect from veterans. >> there was a lack of interaction between the two pilots. the pilot that was actually manipulating the flight controls and a pilot who should be monitoring air speed and altitude and sync rate. >> reporter: the ntsb says it wasn't until four seconds before the crash there were any system warnings of a stall. investigators plan to interview the crew in english and korean to ask what was happening in the final seconds of flight. because both pilots were senior, did each assume the other was monitoring speed and altitude. nbc news avelation analyst former captain john cox. >> what was the demeanor of the inner workings of the crew, how effective were they working as a team. that's the question we have to have answered. u.s. troops are supposed to be out of afghanistan by 2014 but now the president may be considering a speedier exit. "the new york times" reports president obama is considering moving up the withdrawal and not leaving a residual force behind. in large part because he has grown frustrated afghan president hamid karzai. according to the paper the two leaders attempted a video conference last month to smooth things over, but it reportedly ended badly with the afghan president accusing the americans of trying to negotiate peace with the taliban and doing that without him. joe, president obama i think running out of patience with the situation there. >> you know, yes. and, of course, there's so much to be concerned about here. of course neocons will be concerned that we're going to leave no troops there. of course. i'm concerned, i know you are, all of us are concerned that it's taken now four years to get to this point. we're essentially where we were four years ago. joe biden was there four years ago. i don't know if people remember but, mark halperin, there was that scene in 2008 where joe biden went over, met in afghanistan, met with karzai, he was still a senator then, he got up, he threw his, you know, napkin down, stormed away from the table, and joe biden said then, privately and publicly, to some people, that we just did not -- we never would have a partner in karzai. and it has seemed painfully obvious for a lot of us for a very long time, for joe biden as well, i think though this is -- i think at the end of the day, this is where the president wants to be with his legacy, that he ended the war in iraq, he got the troops out of afghanistan, and i know congress is going to raise hell but i think the american people would be with him if he did this, wouldn't they? >> you know, if karzai had turned out to be thomas jefferson this still probably would have been a tough time. people on this program for years have been saying, there's no way with someone so unreliable that this could work out. and i'm sure i know the president has had suspicions about that not just because the vice president has warned him and other have warned him. this is a horrible thing to have happened and i think, you know, the "times" story it is a turtle on a fence post, the reason "the new york times" has that story, whether trying to send a message to karzai to see if he can turn around i don't know. but it seems clear whether there cost us trillions and cost the lives of so many americans. >> well, and what really drives home just how long this has gone on, i think a lot of us had the opportunity or the privilege to visit college campuses and when you go talk to a class of 18 or 20-year-olds and you have to go all the way back to 9/11 to explain why we're there in the first place and it really i think hits home how long we've been there. now, some republicans will say that -- why of course this war should end and i know that everyone in this program has been calling for that for years now. but there are a lot of republicans who will urge that we work with and listen to the military commanders and, of course, once america leaves then any and all of our coalition partners will leave too. this country will hopefully, but likely, fall into the hands and become a threat to the homeland again. >> willie? >> joe, quickly to the point you made about the length of the war. in "the new york times" the piece about afghanistan and right at the bottom of the piece they have names of the dead. this morning there's an 18-year-old private in arrow milliard from birmingham, alabama. he's 18. that means when the planes hit the buildings he was 6 years old. so think about that. if you started this war in october of 2001, could you ever have imagined we would be talking about 2014, almost a decade and a half later as the exit date. >> willie, it's unbelievable. tom ricks warned about this. so many years ago, when he wrote his book about the wars that we're engaged in and he said, there are kids standing outside of their homes this morning at a bus stop going to first grade that are going to be casualties one day and willie, that's exactly what's happened. and the great tragedy is, so many people in washington should have seen this coming. it was obvious. karzai is not somebody that we could be -- that would ever be a reliable partner. >> that is certainly unbelievable how long this has gone on. when you put it in those terms, willie, it's -- a national embarrassment in some ways because we are so disconnected. i bet there are some people surprised to hear we are still losing lives and limbs and drain our system in the war in afghanistan. i think the president is absolutely right. you know what, come what may quite frankly over there at this point which is hard to say because there are women, there are parts of the system there that are cruel and unfair and they need us but i don't think we can do it anymore. >> there are a lot of countries that need us. >> yeah. >> and we can go back to when richard holbrooke came on the force and was forced to defend afghanistan and we would ask him, we would ask everybody on the show, never made any sense, why are we in afghanistan still. well because of pakistan. why are why in afghanistan in because of india, because of the region, because of this. we were never in afghanistan because of afghanistan. because everybody knew that afghanistan couldn't be fixed but we were there and you talk about the disconnect, this is the most shocking thing and we've talked about this all the time and we talked about this in real-time in 2009 and 2010 and 2 2011, of all the speeches we've given, the book tours we've done, college campuses we went to, civic organizations we went to, we never had one person stand up and say, you know what, that war in afghanistan, i'm for it. i understand why we're spending $2 billion a week. mika, over four years, in over 400, 500 events never once did one person say, yeah, we need to be in afghanistan. they would say we need that money at home to rebuild our schools, not to build their schools. and this is one of the greatest disconnects i think between washington and middle america over the past five years that i've seen. >> i think the president is on the pulse of that and i think he probably rather would do more, there are at this point obviously ramifications to pulling out quickly, but the taste for that i think is becoming more -- >> we've been there 13 years. >> it's too long. >> been there 13 years. you're not moving up, not leaving quickly after being there 13 years. >> all right. let's move on to egypt. the muslim brotherhood is calling for a national uprising, accusing the military of stealing last year's revolution by force. the call for action came just hours after an early morning attack on protesters near a military compound in cairo. egyptian health officials say at least 51 people died and more than 400 were injured in that attack. military officials say they were responding to a, quote, terrorist group trying to storm the building. meanwhile the country's interim president announced a timetable to amend the constitution, establish a new parliament, and elect a president. the new government is expected to be in place by early next year. white house officials say they are watching the situation in egypt closely, but are not yet ready to call the military's action a coup. >> this is a complex situation and it is not in our interests to move unnecessarily quickly in making a determination like that because we need to be mindful of our objective here, which is to assist the egyptian people in their transition to democracy. >> mark halperin and then willie. just the reason to not call it a coup has to do with money, obviously. it's not that the president is parsing words. >> there are requirements under the law. right now the united states is in a very tough position. because we don't want to say that you can overthrow democracy with a military coup. our closest ally in that country is the military. it was in the last changeover in government. there's extraordinary concern about stability in the region and israel's security, and, you know, it's easy to criticize -- >> call it a coup and you're farther away. >> easy to criticize the administration but i think right now with no great choices being for stability, trying to see if democracy can emerge is the best option. >> absolutely. willie? >> nbc's foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin is live in cairo this morning. good to see you. an ugly day there yesterday. >> it was. you know, it's kind of strange these days, waking up in cairo and saying, you know, it's off to a good start when you don't have any casualties to report. that has been the case today. the day you were talking about yesterday was one of the bloodiest egypt has seen in the past two years. as we were talking more than 51 people were killed. not yet quite sure exactly how it started because depending on who you ask, you're getting two very different narratives. the military says it was guarding the republican guard headquarters. its soldiers came under attack, opening in self-defense. they released footage showing various assailants trying to storm the republican guard positions. now if you ask the protesters and the muslim brotherhood supporte erers that were there,y said they were engaged in morning prayers as we have been every day for the past week staging the sit-in and they came under attack. the one thing most people are assure about, it was a chaotic scene and it has narrowed this confrontation between the military and muslim brotherhood supporters and that has a lot of people here thinking egypt may see a new wave of violence between these two organizations. the military which ousted the muslim brotherhood president and his supporters in the streets since that happened. >> how could there possibly be political reconciliation, the one that we've been talking about and the military has been talking about that would include the muslim brotherhood, if people are being shot in the street? >> absolutely. that is the million dollar question. the interim government doesn't have a prime minister, doesn't have a cabinet. it just has a president. he's trying to convince the muslim brotherhood and islamists to come back in the political process. that is a hard sell. you're trying to convince them the first time around democracy didn't work, it was ousted, but come back into the mix we'll give it another shot. they're not buying it. they feel even if they win the next round of elections they will be ousted once again. people on the streets are extremely anxious and losing more confidence by the day in the institutions of the state with the exception of the military. it's polarized egypt in a very negative way. >> amman, quickly, want to ask you about this report that multiple staffers have resigned from al jazeera's egyptian channel over their concerns they say that the network's coverage has been biased in favor of the muslim brotherhood. what are you hearing on that? >> that's correct. at least 22 staffers working for that channel which is kind of the equivalent of an like a an egypt c-span run by al jazeera resigned yesterday because they felt over the course of the last several months under the muslim brotherhood rule al jazeera was not accurately portraying what was happening on the streets. it was being biased in describing protein testers and not representing both sides of the story. yesterday they resigned in mass and more importantly actually here in cairo at a press conference for the military and police an al jazeera reporter was forced out by other journalists that felt that the presence of that reporter was not fair, was not accurate and so they forced that reporter to get up and leave the press conference. so some are looking at it from the sense of politics but also from an expression point of view and freedom of media. there are human rights activists expressing concern there's a crackdown against al jazeera and other satellite channels here. a lot of developments happening in the media worlds as well. >> ayman mohyeldin in cairo, hope today is more peaceful than yesterday. thanks so much. sam stein, your thoughts on egypt here. hard to see how these groups come together when they're being shot in the street by the in illtry. >> yeah. it's a hot mess. i mean there's very little chance of political reconciliation in the interim. i read a report this morning that muslim brotherhood is already rejecting the timeline set forth by the interim president for new elections and a new constitution. and you can't really blame them. what happened was egypt's first free elections were overturned by the military in a year. he can quibble all day whether you want to call that a coup but at the end of the day it's alienating to the people who supported those elections. the critical player i think going forward is probably morsi himself. you know, the military needs him to buy into this process because he can bring along, you know, good swath of his followers. but i would have to say he's probably not in the best mindset to want to play ball at this juncture. i don't really see any good solutions here. i think the administration is being probably appropriately cautious with respect to aid but i can't see how this gets better in the next couple weeks or days. >> all right. coming up on "morning joe," former governor eliot spitzer joins us on set to explain why he's making another run for public office. christine quinn on her bid for mayor of new york city. later basketball star ray allen heading to capitol hill for a push for health research that hits close to home for him. up next the top stories in the politico playbook. but first bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> good morning to you, mika. thunderstorms will be strorory the u.s. all eyes on tropical storm chantal towards haiti and dominican and possibly the u.s. southeast coast. 50 mile per hour winds. not expected to become a hurricane. we are watching the storm heading over haiti and dominican republic. by the end of the weekend the storm will be near the bahamas off the southeast coastline and what makes this forecast interesting is that then it should head towards the carolinas, georgia, or north florida come about monday or tuesday next week. we're also tracking pretty strong storms at this hour through minnesota. so minneapolis, to rochester and sioux falls, south dakota, be ready for that. this afternoon everywhere in yellow chance of strong thunderstorms that includes detroit, chicago, milwaukee and back down towards kansas city. just be prepared for the storms in the middle east and we'll watch tropical storm chantal as it makes its journey towards the southeast coastline in the days ahead. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. hi! i'm sandy, and after nine years of working at walmart, i know savings. and right now we've got everything you need for a great summer. this 5-piece 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