0 there's no incentive for them whatsoever to really include g regular fans because it's a business and happens only once a year. >> nothing more likely to get me in trouble this afternoon or this morning but i want to say this anyway. there is actual wage inequality within the context of the nfl. i just know from reading your pieces and others. you read in the comment section and folks are cry me a river for all the poor, professional football players. there is, in fact, a huge gap between the folks who are at the top and sort of the working joes who are at the bottom of this game. >> no, absolutely. we can start with raoger goodel who makes under $30 million a year as nfl commissioner. >> what is his head injury risk? >> although given his recent comments about the washington football's team name, i think he has had a few head injuries. let's be clear about something, super bowl is woodstock for the 1%. where they gather to celebrate their wealth and their excess. there's no site in the given year that has more private plane traffict to it than the super bowl. it causes traffic jams at local airports. nfl owners, let's be clear how they make their money. the welfare kings of the united states. we're talking $18.5 billion, $900 million a year over the last 20 years for nfl ownership. what you end up having is what i call it a neoliberal horse because you have projected on cities through stadium construction under the guise of sports, which people are more likely to support than if you said, hey, let's give $900 million, let's give a billion dollar gift to a billionaire. when you cloak it in the guise of sports, when you cloak it in the guise of sports we'll take this team and leave then they say it's good economics. that is every single study from the brookings institute to the cato institute says that stadium funding is not good economics. if you flew a plane over new york city and dropped $1 billion on the street and people could pick up the money and spend it in local stores that would do better for the local economy than building a stadium. >> so, there are so many levels of this, right? one is the question of stadiums and the infrastructure and the ways that may actually maybe suck more than it gives back. the question of the inequality from the commissioners at the top to league minimum for risking all kind of injury. but also a great privilege to play this game. a game that people love and to make a better salary than most ordinary folks make in the context of their lives. how do we balance those things and wanting to talk about the unfairness and inequality. hey, this is a game and a sport and a job that i love that is pretty well paid. >> as a player, you're so oblivious to all these other numbers and stats and the economy of the game and who benefits. one thing that was compelling to me is that these nielson ratings of these fans that can't afford to go to the game, that's what with the owners and capitalism with the players, right? you know that there is this revenue sharing aspect amongst the owners where they exist in this really beautiful space. but if you were to talk to owners outside of the football realm, they would be really against the idea of socialism. where players are in this capitalistic free market entity. where as long as there is value to you, we actually want you. but as soon as you get owed we discard of you. >> i want to talk more about that when you get older. a lot of folks don't realize you can be on your own dealing with health consequences for a long time after your days of playing in the league are over. up next, what happens when the nfl commissioner gets ambushed by one of his own players. kind of amazing. >> yes, it was. my mother and my grandmother are very old fashioned. i think we both are clean freaks. i used to scrub the floor on my knees. 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