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You shot him . I shot him. She said the man attacked her. He told me he was going to kill me. Shed been assaulted. She defended herself. So why did others call it murder . My very first words were she set him up. Caras accounts kept changing. It hit me just how different all these stories were and how unbelievable they were. Lies. Its all lies. What really made cara pull that trig snr. The rug was pulled out from underneath her. She was shocked. And she was angry. Yes. A jury would have to decide. I did what i did because i had to not because i wanted to. It was night when it happened. Indian rocks beach gulf coast of florida, two blocks from the water, 10 05 p. M. Quiet at that hour save for the odd passing car and snatches of neighborhood chatter carried on a cooling ocean breeze. There was a moon almost full. Cara ryan was in bed. And then fear, searing as a heart attack, the dogs. They were growling. It was one of the things that made me feel so scared. Someone was coming into her house. The door crashed open. You said the lights were off. They were. Was it so dark you couldnt actually make out who this person was . It happened so fast and i was so afraid. She reached to the bed side table, opened the door, took out the gun, the one her exhusband had given her, trained her to use. Aim for the mask, aim for the chest. How many steps . Like 20. And then the shape of the bedroom doorway, the hand reaching toward the bed, reaching for her so close. She closed her eyes. She pulled the trigger. Was the shot fire a warning, just stay out of my bedroom . I was aiming for whoever it was. Thats what i was taught. You dont fire a warning shot. Cara called 911. You shot him . I shot him. With a gun . With a gun. Okay. Cara gripped the gun for dear life terrified the man would come back. You still have the gun . Yes, i do. Okay, maam, im getting help on the way. Okay, when did this happen . Just now. I was afraid. I was scared. I didnt have any other choice. You fire the gun, when you pick up a gun if hes coming at you, yes. And he came into that room. So as hes coming into the room did he say anything . No. Just was coming into the room. Right. Is he still there . I dont know. I think he went over to the neighbors. Is your door lock snd. No, too scared to get up. In fact the man had run from the house and collapsed on the next door neighbors doorstep, was lying there, bleeding. The neighbor dialled 911, too. He doesnt look very good. The neighbor was petrified, afraid of more gunfire, refused to open his door. Im afraid to go outside. And you dont feel comfortable going outside . No. I completely understand. Staring out his window the man described the mans injuries. Wheres he bleeding from . All i can see his arm. And yes, it didnt look good. I do have the police on the way. Is he awake right now . Doesnt look like it. Is he breathing . Yes. The first police cars arrived quickly within a couple of minutes. I know youre scared, cara, but the police are there and theyre going to protect you but i need you to go to them. The 911 operator said go outside to meet them but leave the gun in the house. So she did. She put the gun down. But then what was this . Video from the deputys dash cam shows they told her put your hands up and out on the street they order her down on the ground, handcuffed her, put her in the back of a patrol car. What was it like when they took you out there . Did you believe they thought you were a victim or a perpetrator . I think when i was greeted by a woman with a rifle and three other deputies with their guns drawn i was ordered to my knees and handcuffed and put in the back. I felt like i didnt really know what was going on. A night of terror and a victim who suddenly felt accused. But is that really what happened . No simple tale this. Now the question that greeted officers at the Pinellas County Sheriffs Office was not simple at all. Maybe she was a victim who defended herself and maybe she was Something Else altogether. What im asking you for is consent for us to go in. Obviously its a crime scene right now. What really happened in this little house by the beach in paradise . Coming up carry was about to tell her story in greater detail. I thought maybe id grazed him. I said why isnt the ambulance leaving and Deputy Vaughn said he didnt need an ambulance. And i thought oh now hes really going to be mad. Wait, did cara know the man she shot . Who was she talking about . When dateline continues. Otic and the gastroenterologists who developed it. Align naturally helps to soothe your occasional digestive upsets 24 7. So where you go the pro goes. Go with align, the pros in digestive health. Which of your devices are protected by daily security updates . Daily security updates. Daily . I dont know. The only thing. Im struggling with this. Some providers you have to manually download updates to each device. Comcast business securityedge updates every 10 minutes to help keep your connected devices protected against new ransomware, malware and phishing threats. Every 10 minutes feels pretty good. Get secure, reliable internet and voice for an amazing price. Call today. Comcast business. Beyond fast. Cara ryan squirmed in the back seat of the police car. Not arrested but confined. Strangely perhaps the police hadnt taken her cellphone. She struggled to get to it, was able to make a call or two as she wrestled with the handcuffs behind her and wondered why she of all people was in this predictment. It was bizarre, surreal. Its still as if it didnt happen. It seemed so safe here, so perfect. Two blocks from powdery white beaches, truly a paradise. I love the beach, and when i found the house it just took one second to look down the road and see the golf and the other way to see the intercoastal and i knew i had found my home. She shared this lovely place with john joseph rush, jj. Eveningings on the balcony sipping drinks and inhaling the salty ocean air. The balcony was like our second living room, and we often lit a fire and enjoyed the nights out there where you can hear the waves on the shore. Jj was the sort of guy any woman could love. 20 years. And he wanted to please me, yes. And he was a great friend. He loved his friends, loved his daughter. He was very loving, very generous, very kind. But now cara was in a police car, no j. J. To protect her. What a strange place for a lawabiding person to find herself, a High School Journalism teacher for heavens sake. I loved it. What did you love tugboat . The kids, they can be very brilliant. And thats one of the best things about teaching. You close your classroom and theres no adults. Heres a fellow teacher debbie ryan. She was a rock star at her school. And then one day a st. Petersburg Police Officer helped with a class project and they both realized they had known each other since they were kids. That was j. J. Rush. And we spent that whole night just getting to know each other again. And a couple of years later they married. Cara would welcome megan j. J. s daughter from his first marriage as part of the new family. She was icing on the cake. I was so happy to have a man who had a little girl. It can be complicated. It wasnt always easy but i loved her like my own. But into every life a little rain. 8 years into marriage there was a bump, a big one. I had an affair. With the principal at her school. Thats when cara and j. J. Separated and later divorced. He blamed himself for my affair and for our breakup and for the year that we were separated and for the year we were divorced he pursued me relentlessly. Blamed himself why . For not being there. For being out in a bar drinking or wherever he was and leaving me to keep the home fires burning. But they werent apart for long. About a year after the divorce, they had a chance encounter on the beach. And i had just broken up with somebody, and i said, you know, god, if im going to find a nice man hes going to be on the beach with a dog. And i look over and theres his dog and his daughter, and i thought, god, you know, thats not really funny. J. J. Must have been happy to see her. Two days later she was surprised to find him in her driveway. And i said what are you doing there and he said i think we should get back together and that was it. We got back together. They never remarried but once back together they called each other husband and wife, they wore wedding rings, they shared Bank Accounts. It wasnt perfect, of course. What life is . After 17 years on the force a serious car accident left j. J. In too much pain to work on patrol. So he retired and became an investigator for the medical examiners office, but things change. Their relationship was not like the old days anymore. And then finally j. J. Told cara he was moving out for good. It was the day after valentines day 2015. That was a surprise. He had just turned 45 and he woke up one day and said i need some space, i need to find myself. This came out of the blue . Out of the blue. I thought what the heck was going on . Did you think he was having an affair or something . I suspected. In fact, j. J. Had met someone. A Police Sergeant named lonny langtow. They had been friends for years but became closer when the relationship with cara seemed to him anyway to hit a dead end. He knew shed be upset and angry, but at the same time he was so excited. Anyway, cara seemed to be moving on, too, with another Police Officer, a steamy relationship. March 2015 three weeks after j. J. Moved out is when it happened. The night of panic and terror. And now cara was sitting in a police car. What was she thinking . Heres what she told us. She was wondering, she said, why it was taking so long for paramedics to treat the intruder she shot. I thought maybe id grazed him. And when i got into the cruiser i said whats going on . Why isnt the ambulance leaving and Deputy Vaughn said he didnt need an ambulance. And i thought oh, [ bleep ]. Now hes really going to be mad. Now hes really going to be mad in. Well, i had fired a gun and called 911. He could have lost his job. Lose his job, hes going to be mad . Oh, yes, cara ryan knew who her intruder was, knew him very well indeed. Coming up so embarrassing. I had never sent suggested Text Messages let alone body parts. Cara shares an eyebrow raising new detail about what happened in her bedroom. It was mortifying. What she claims set the intruder off. Thats when he became violent. He was angry, he assaulted me, told me he was going to kill me. When dateline continues. Im your 70lb st. Bernard puppy, and my lack of impulse control, is about to become your problem. Ahh no, come on. I saw you eating poop earlier. Hey my focus is on the road, and thats saving me cash with drivewise. Whos the dummy now . 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Had run into him at crime scenes. Jj was a medical examiners investigator. But why would cara shoot him . Her answer was right there in the 911 call. My exhusband came in and he raped me. He raped you . I shot him. Reporter rape . But, thats all she said on the topic. Until about two hours later, when she told a deputy she needed medical attention. I need to see a doctor. Ive been hurt. Reporter it was detective syers job to sort through it all, and he began by showing cara a bit of kindness. I went over and took the handcuffs off of her. She must have seemed pretty upset. She just shot her exhusband . Not unduly. Really . No. Reporter mind you, according to cara, as she sat here in the car she didnt know how badly hurt j. J. Was. So you thought he was alive still . Absolutely. Didnt even need an ambulance . Didnt need an ambulance. Reporter in fact, j. J. Died rather quickly. A fate that had a certain irony. It was he who gave cara the gun, taught her how to shoottokill, in case the occasion ever arose. Was this an appropriate occasion . Detective syers, charged with finding out, understood he had a problem. Learned that from the deputy who put cara in his car. We were told that she had used her telephone. Reporter that is, her cellphone, the one they failed to take away. Big mistake. Who did she call . What did she say . Syers knew the patrol car was equipped with a camera and microphone to record any conversations. So i naturally asked, was this recorded . And i was told, no, it wasnt. Reporter there was video, just no audio. For the first hour and a half, cara was in that patrol car. Deputy forgot to turn it on. Mistake number two. A rather important one, as it would turn out. Reporter anyway, they kept her in the car for almost three hours as they gathered evidence. A deputy finally took her to police headquarters, where the detectives made arrangements for an examination at a rape crisis center. Later, they looked at the tapes of cara, recorded during that drive to the station. Did she appear to be emotionally battered or anything . I mean if you watch the in car camera, shes just kinda casually talking with him about being in the Law Enforcement community and knowing different people. Yaz was, um, on my husbands softball team. It was just kinda, you know, general conversation. She didnt seem so upset in that video. Reporter it was around 2 00 a. M. At police headquarters, when cara revealed why jj was at her place that night even though hed left her, moved out, three weeks earlier. It was quite a story. Remember, cara met a new man after the breakup with jj. Also a sheriffs deputy, his name was scott. Scott holderbaum. For a week or so you were seeing this guy. You were having some, it was fun. It was fun. I was giddy. I was like a school kid, and i my teacher in the room next to me id run over there and say, he just texted me. What do i say . I hadnt really been on a date in 20 years. Reporter the day of the shooting, cara texted scott a very explicit text, complete with intimate selfie, inviting him to come over for a tryst. So embarrassing. I had never sent suggestive Text Messages, let alone body parts, it was mortifying. Id be sad if it wasnt so tragic. But it is tragic. So but he couldnt come . Is that what happened . Oh, scott was at work he worked from 7 00 at night to 7 00 in the morning. Reporter so, she said, she sent the very same xrated selfie and a similar invitation to j. J. And jj, though he was seeing someone else, came right over. Would he have thought of it as break up sex . Like, you know, maybe sure. One last go round. Yeah, were all nostalgic. Theres a country song we dont have to be lonely tonight. You know, and then tomorrow well go our separate ways. Reporter cara told detectives that as she and j. J. Were in bed together, her phone kept beeping. Incoming Text Messages. Chirp chirp. Yeah. So i ignored it. Reporter it was scott. And it went off again. And i told him, just ignore it. Just ignore it. And he leaned over, and he grabbed the phone, and he opened it, and he said, who the hell is scott holderbaum . Reporter that, cara told police, is when j. J. Saw shed sent the same picture, the same invitation to both of them. So he saw, kinda like, the text message conversation or whatever you call it . He saw a photograph i dont know. And thats when he became violent. He was angry. He assaulted me, told me he was gonna kill me, told me he was gonna kill scott. Said that at the time he saw this stuff . Youll both be dead by the morning light. Youre an effing whore. And he was just furious. You say he assaulted you. What, he raped you . He did things against my will. Yes. Reporter then, cara told the detectives, j. J. Dressed and drove off, and she called him six times, to try to get him to calm down. I called him right away and i told him how sorry i was, and how its not serious with scott, and that i was gonna call it off. Reporter and a few minutes later, when he came storming back into the house, cara said she knew exactly who it was. I heard him come through the door, and he told me he was gonna kill me, or he was gonna make it to where nobody would ever want me again. And he came in the room and thats when i grabbed the gun. Reporter a story which, as youll see, would be rather important later. After they heard it, the detectives sent cara to the rape crisis center. But the results there . Only raised more questions. And something she said, while there, would have them wondering, was cara a rape victim or a woman scorned . Whose fury ended in murder . Coming up let me ask you this pointblank did you know that was john coming through the door and did you shoot him purposely . 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Rushs daughter, meghan, was awakened from a deep sleep. 3 00 a. M. Knock at my door from the detectives. Whats that like . The scariest thing that you will ever go through and they said, your dads been shot and hes been killed. I said i screamed, obviously, and it was terror and loss. Its not something any 21yearold wants to hear at 3 00 in the morning. Reporter meghan was not the only one assaulted with the news that night. I was called that night. Reporter and in Lonnie Lanctos case, a particular remorse a regret for a lifetime. Lonnie was recovering from surgery just then, and earlier that day j. J. Called, offered his company, his help. And she said thanks but no, she was going to sleep. You must have gone over that in your mind a million times. I live with it every day. I take comfort in the fact that the last words we had to each other were, i love you, and i love you more. Those werent the last words that they had with each other. I guarantee you that. Reporter she means j. J. And cara, of course. So, why did he go to her, and what happened . Around 6 a. M. , cara returned to the Pinellas County Sherrifs Office from the rape crisis center. She was put in an Interview Room while detectives reviewed the rape report. It was not conclusive. Did they find, you know, any of the classic symptoms of a violent Sexual Assault . None were notated, no. Reporter however, the report did note bruising on caras hip. Was it possible to determine how that bruising got to be there . That original nurse thought that that bruising might of been from the incident of the night. When it was examined later by another doctor they determined that the bruising was days older. She said that he held her wrists while he sexually assaulted her and therefore left marks. The examination didnt notate anything with her wrists. Mind you, photos, as you can see, did show a red mark, but the detectives said that was most likely from the handcuffs which she twisted around as she tried to make cell phone calls,or maybe she got those marks having sex with her new boyfriend. Cara told them it was pretty wild. Sex that i havent even thought about since college. Reporter the detectives looked at Text Messages between cara and her new boyfriend sent a few days earlier. Well they had Text Messages back and forth tie me up. Tie me down, and they talked about putting certain type of lotion on bite marks or bruises, and they talked about handcuffs. The injuries on your wrists, the text from him. He said he would bring over handcuffs again and again leave some marks. I said, are you bringing your handcuffs . Well, and he said, get prepared to have some more bruises. Marks of passion i think he said. Yeah. Do you like marks of passion . I like passionate sex. Reporter so what did cara think about the Rape Crisis Centers inconclusive report . They did a rape kit and they didnt find any evidence of rape. Yes, they did. They did. It showed well, it showed sexual contact. Uhhuh. Didnt show there wasnt a rape. Reporter while cara was at the rape crisis center, the detectives received new information from the crime scene. Such as First Responders believed the house lights had pretty much all been on when whatever happened happened. Remember cara said it was dark in the house, but once we gathered a little bit more evidence from the detectives working the crime scene then we did get definitely more pointed in our question, and more direct. Reporter and then something odd happened. Cara changed her story. Remember, she told 911, my exhusband raped me. I shot him. Breaking into your home. Reporter but now . Now she said she didnt know who was coming into the house. Somebody was in my home, whether it was jay or jack the ripper. I was scared. Somebody came in the house unannounced. Coulda been j. J. Or it could have been jack the ripper . Really . I mean, did what did you think of that . She thought her story, you know, needed to be embellished. Im gonna ask you very, very bluntly and very honestly. Okay . Okay. Did the rape occur . It did. Let me ask you this point blank. Did you know that was john coming through the door, and did you shoot him purposely . No, i did not. I would not shoot john purposely. But you shot that person purposely, correct . In that moment. I was scared. You were scared, why . I had an emotional night. I didnt know what was happening, and you know what . I just i wish id never gotten that gun. Talking with us, she defended this second story, that she didnt know who the intruder was, and assumed it could be a stranger. You were in the middle of a big fight. He wouldnt have come a break up fight. He wouldnt have come back. Hes coming back around to talk to you. He wants to clear some things up. He wouldve said that on the phone. So as hes coming in the room what did he say anything . No. Just was sort of coming in the room right. And you shot him, but you saw who it was . Didnt see who it was, and i was so scared hang on a second. And nervous. Just just a moment. You were with this guy night and day, in bed, intimate, hearing all his grunts, listening to the way he walks right. For 20 years. Right. And you say you didnt recognize who it was coming through the door . No. I was scared out of my mind. Reporter cara said it was only when she heard j. J. s voice that she knew who it was. What happened right after you shot him . Thats when i heard him say, oh. So thats when i figured it was him. Reporter so which was it . My exhusband raped me, i shot him, or i shot a stranger, or was it a third version of events, this one filled with stories about j. J. He had a dark side. Reporter yes. Cara had a lot to say about her recently departed ex, but was it true . But was it true . 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The state was going to pull my teaching certificate cause he hadnt paid my student loans. Reporter he paid the bills in the early days of their marriage she said. So i started looking at accounts thinking, whats going on here . I dont understand. Reporter what was going on, said cara, was they were broke. I felt really betrayed and lied to, and hurt. Reporter so, she said, she laid down the law. Took over the financial stuff. And told j. J. He had to get help for his gambling addiction. But, you know, a gambling addiction, its probably as hard or harder to kick than smoking, or drinking or its very hard. But i loved him. I made vows. I made a commitment. So, as long as he was willing to go to gamblers anonymous, then i was willing to support him. And we went to marriage counseling. That helped. Reporter cara told detectives that for five years j. J. Didnt gamble at all and they were happy. But you know, i always worried that the gambling would come back up and financial situations would happen again. Reporter and then in 2004, j. J. Had that that bad crash in his police car. When we got there very shortly thereafter he had an actual, like, a hole in the top of his head. Reporter bob jones, is a former st. Petersburg Police Officer and j. J. s good friend. His knees and feet and Everything Else got hung up around the steering wheel. And from that point on multiple back problems, multiple back surgeries. Reporter and that, said cara, is when he started drinking heavily, all day, every day. Reporter at home recovering . Yes. Reporter depressed. Depressed, yeah. Reporter he recovered, eventually, she said, and took that job as an investigator at the medical examiners office. But he was in pain most of the time. He kept drinking. And thats when he started using the oxycodone for the knee pain. Reporter sure. That was prescribed, right . Yes. But it became chronic. And he was unpredictable when he was on it and off it. Reporter cara told detectives j. J. Liked his work with the medical examiners office, but the horrific crime scenes he witnessed took their toll. So much so he developed ptsd. One example, the last one a man threw his 7yearold girl off a bridge. And that was his case. I know it was emotionally tearing him apart. Reporter the day before cara shot him, j. J. Went to a therapist, a man named bob greene. He had also been their marriage counselor. And so, of course, the police talked to mr. Greene. And he told them that day, j. J. Was in tears. He was spiraling out of control. There is no way to predict in that situation where the spiral would end. Either a danger to himself or somebody else. Reporter where the sort of burdens of what he did for a living and that his situation in life had become too big for him . Yes. I think a part of him didnt wanna be in this world anymore. Reporter but he was supposedly kind of happy. That was the face he put on. Reporter you dont believe that . I know he wasnt happy. Antidepressants, and the drinking, and the oxy, and the physical pain, and the mental pain, the posttraumatic stress disorder. He was struggling. Reporter the therapist, green, went even further when he offered police a remarkable theory that j. J. Knew if he barged in on cara unannounced, she would shoot. And shoot to kill. My opinion has always been that it was a suicide. Reporter well, how could it possibly be a suicide . Because he had trained cara that if someone comes through the front door unannounced you pick up a gun, you close your eyes and you shoot. Reporter to a lotta people it would seem a stretch. He had not announced he was coming over. Someone came through the front door and she did as she was trained to do. Reporter detectives werent buying greens idea. Its kind of a ridiculous theory. Reporter so, caras version . That without her to help him, j. J. Was depressed, suffering from ptsd, a suicidal, gambling, alcohol and oxycodone addicted man, who, in the days after he left her, fell off all of his wagons. And fell into a rage when he saw she had a new love. The detectives were skeptical. When it comes to being derogatory towards j. J. And she has all the specifics we need, but when it comes to explaining the rape or the attack, then things become very fuzzy. She folds up into the corner, starts hiding her face, just a different persona altogether. Reporter so what was the truth about j. J. . He was happier than hes been ever, that i can remember. And all of his friends will tell you the same thing. Reporter who was right . And what did it say about the events in this little seaside bedroom . Coming up i asked john to help me, and he was reluctant at first and then he finally helped me, but when he did he said dont tell cara. A very different picture emerges of j. J. As a man very much under caras thumb. He was very controlled. He couldnt go out to lunch without bridging home a receipt. A man ready to make a change. He was dead set on not being with her anymore. He was done. When dateline continues. Saturdays happen. Pain happens. Aleve it. Aleve is proven stronger and longer on pain than tylenol. When pain happens, aleve it. All day strong. Reporter detectives listened closely to cara ryan, and her stories about j. J. s problems. Depression, gambling, drinking, pain killers. A man, so out of control he raped her in a rage before she shot him. And then he came back through the door. I thought he was gonna kill me. Reporter was it true . Never in his life. Never in his life. Reporter Lonnie Lancto had known cara and j. J. For years, before she and j. J. Fell in love. Did she have a reasonable argument that maybe she thought she was defending her life . Not at all. He wasnt a violent person. She has she has no other defense but to tell you that. Reporter private lives, as we all know, can hide cesspools of stories best left untold. But, no secrets in a murder investigation. The detectives had to know, what was the nature of cara and jjs 20 year relationship . For example, that chance meeting on the beach years earlier when they were divorced. Cara said it just happened. The detectives said she made it happen, tracking him down to an out of the way beach. She actually told us you know, im walking on this beach thats nowhere near my house, and i say, the next man i walk into he hes gonna be it. Reporter hes the one . Yeah. And it ends up being jj, you know, wasnt reasonable. Maybe in the movies, i guess that might happen. Reporter calculating, said the detectives. And, in keeping. A lot of the description to us of of their relationship was she was more controlling. Reporter and, especially, without exception. She controlled the money. Reporter when j. J. Retired from the police department, he collected a pension as well as his salary at the medical examiners office. But he never saw any of the money. Both checks went directly into a bank account controlled only by cara. All he did was deposit his checks. He couldnt tell you how much they even were. He was very controlled. He couldnt go out to lunch without bringing home a receipt. Reporter if he wanted to help his daughter meghan, he had to ask cara. Like, i once needed help with a deposit for my my phone, and he had to call, and have a conversation over 100, just to help me out. And so, he was like, yeah, cara said, okay. And it was like okay thanks. Reporter meghans mom, and j. J. s first wife, sherry tribby, said it was always like that with cara. Once when meghan was in Elementary School i didnt have the money to buy her shoes. So, i asked john to help me, and he was reluctant reluctant at first, and then he he finally helped me, but when he did he said, dont tell cara. Reporter but cara said, she had her reasons. He couldnt have his own bank account. He couldnt have credit cards. He couldnt have an account with me off of it. Reporter that, she said, was because of his gambling addiction. But, addiction . J. J. s family said he liked to go to the track and play cards, but he was far from addicted. If he went out somewhere with somebody and bought something, i mean, would you need to see a receipt . He wanted to give me the receipts. He wanted it to be where i didnt have to worry. Reporter okay. He didnt want me to look over his shoulder. So he put his receipts on the counter for me. Reporter secrets. To the world outside the family, cara was, as she herself said, a loving stepmother to j. J. s daughter meghan. She felt like you were very close. She regarded you as her own. Im sure she did. Reporter why would you put it that way . She wanted to put that scene out for everybody. That we had a perfect relationship. I never really felt like she liked me or wanted me there. So, being with somebody who makes you feel so unwanted and unloved, its it was tough. Reporter it got to be easier to meet her father in secret, said meghan, avoid the tension with cara. But, issues will barge in, like it or not. Like the time meghan wanted to apply for a job as a police dispatcher, and felt she needed a new dress for the interview. Cara got wind of it. She said, oh, well youll never make it through that anyway. She wanted a dress for her interview and she could never ask him for that before because cara wouldnt allow the money to be spent. Reporter thats about the time j. J. Started planning his exit. As he whispered to meghan. He was secretly opening up his new bank account. And he changed everything so that nothing was going into her account anymore. And then, the time that she started to notice was when he was like, okay, its time to get out now. Reporter that sounds like somebody who has made a firm and final decision. He was dead set on not being with her anymore. He was done. And i was proud of him. Reporter so. Hed left her. Taken up with another woman. Cut off a substantial income. Ended her ability to control him. Sounded like a motive, said the detectives. The rug was pulled out from underneath her. She was she was shocked dismay. Reporter and she was angry . The shock turns to anger at some point. Reporter and there was j. J. , apparently happy, getting his own place, his own car. Had a girlfriend who loved him. Bought his daughter that dress. I think it was the first moment of, like, being like, freedom, i guess, where he felt like i can i can actually do this. And when you give me the receipt, i can throw it away. Reporter did he succumb to gambling, alcohol and pain killers after he left cara . No, said Lonnie Lancto. Not even close. With john, none of those things existed. And he certainly had ample opportunity to drink to excess, to gamble to excess, to be angry, to be upset. And he reporter he was free to do whatever he wanted now . Yes, absolutely he was. Reporter we reminded lonnie of what cara and the therapist had told us. That he was in a downward spiral, getting worse and worse by the day. That he was actually suicidal. Did you see any evidence of that . Absolutely not. He was not suicidal. He was happier than hes been ever that i can remember. I was excited. And it was just like, cool you know . Like, this is this is the dad that i want all the time. I got to see like, my real dad, and it was great. Sorry. Reporter thats okay. Ive just never seen him so happy as he was. Reporter happy for the three weeks after he moved out, and then he was dead. What was a homicide detective to make of all that . Coming up a startling theory of what really happened the night of the shooting. My very first words was she set him up. She set him up. 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But yet for the entire nine hours and 55 minutes that she was with us, she never once led on that never came up that she thought he was deceased. Never asked how he was or anything. How did she react when you told her she was dead . No reaction. It was just a very flat, emotionalless aeffefect. Remember the phone calls, later she retrieved a voicemail she left for a friend. In it, she appears to know that j. J. May be seriously hurt and feared she was in keep trouble. The day after police sent cara home, she consulted an attorney, roger fuderman, a british born American Lawyer who flies the union jack outside of his clearwater office. When i first heard the facts from ms. Riceon, i didnt think ryan, i didnt they were going to charge her. The defendant, shed been a little different. She i believed her. She seemed believable. Reporter meanwhile, detectives continued their investigation. One thing that struck them was the reaction of j. J. s family and friends. Daughter megan i said, it was it her, cara. They said yes, my world crumpled. Reporter his girlfriend my first words were it was a setup, she set him up. Reporter his older brothers i told him to take the guns out of the house. Thats how much i did not trust her. My first words were that bit bitch, no hesitation. I knew in my heart that this was not going to be an accident. Yeah. Reporter strong words. And then the detectives talked to the nextdoor neighbor. The nextdoor neighbor did tell us that j. J. Said that he was scared she would shoot him. Im going to break up with her, im afraid she might shoot me either as a reaction to the breakup or something of that sort. Right. Reporter that was the day before j. J. Moved out. The gun went off. I shot him. Reporter but there was one personswar persons words the detectives kept analyzing cara ryans own words. They listened carefully to the stories she told and compared them. What they were, how they changed over time, and that was that was really when it kind of hit me just how different all of these stores were and how unbelievable they were. Reporter there were, said the detectives, four main stories. The first what she told 911 and the first responding officers. My exhusband came in and raped me. Okay, when did this happen . Just now, he came in and raped me. Reporter shot him while or after she raped her. They asked her that as she sat in the patrol car. At this point, the audio was turned on. The second version emerged in the Interview Room. Cara said j. J. Raped her and left. When he came back, she heard and recognized his voice threatening her before she shot him. And he told me he was going to kill me. Reporter then at the rape crisis center, another version an accidental shooting. Cara quoted as saying he grabbed her, and the gun went off. Now shes telling the rape counselor that they were struggli struggling over the gun during this alleged sexual attack . Shes telling me he raped her, she shot him. Never said anything about grabbing the gun until she speaks with the counselor. Reporter version number four, cara didnt know who was coming into the house. She was scared and fired. Somebody was in my house. There were more variations the door was locked, or it wasnt locked. J. J. Would always call her before he came over, but this time didnt. The detectives counted them all up. Caras versions of what happened in this tiny bedroom. They got to ten. Ten different stories. As you looked at the different stories, what did you think you were dealing with here . If you are in a situation that calls for selfdefense and if you lie about the circumstances, that tells me that you werent justified in what you were doing, otherwise why do you need keep changing the story . Reporter no question in their minds, said the detectives. Cara murdered j. J. Tlafted her. The sheriff they arrested her. The sheriff made the announcement. We believe this is a domesticrelated homicide. And cara ryan was acting out because she was losing control over him. When i watched the press conference, i was crying my eyes out. Reporter fellow teacher debbie ryan didnt believe what they were saying about cara. I believe in her. A couple people said, you believe here . Yeah, why wouldnt i . Sad when people dont know the facts. Reporter cara was charged with seconddegree murder. She was facing a possible life sentence for killing j. J. Rush. Coming up there was absolutely zero doubt in my mind that miranda was never read. Did you read her her miranda warning . I did. Reporter carras defense mounts a new strategy. sneezing coughing sneezing grab the only tissue with coconut oil, aloe, and vitamin e. Nourish with kleenex soothing lotion. The softest lotion tissue. Coyou fifteen percentico or more on Car Insurance . Do woodchucks chuck wood . Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. Youre charged with murder in the second degree. Reporter seconddegree murder. Cara ryan was facing life in prison for shooting her exhusband, j. J. Rush. She was convinced it would go away. I thought it was ridiculous. I was waiting any day for them to realize they had no case. Reporter her attorney said he, too, was surprised that cara was charged. I knew from minute one there was no motive. And there was reporter what do you mean there was no motive . I saw no motive. Reporter a breakup of marriage. Thats when murders occur. The guy is taking his income away, hes walked out on her. Uhhuh. Reporter hes seeing another woman. But when i looked at everything, i said they dont have a motive here. Its clear she loved this man. She didnt need the money. Reporter now that she was charged, her attorney first got cara out on bail and then confronted what he knew was a very big problem. The statements, the sequence of some of the statements were an issue. Reporter so he did exactly what detectives had done. He scrutinized all those statements. But he tried to figure out a defense. I hand wrote all her statements on huge boards. And every inconsistent statement was in red. And the consistents were in blue. Then the helpful were in green. Reporter he asked cara how make sense of the colorcoded differences. I asked her, how on earth do we get this . Get around this . She said the truthful without thinking, without planning, she said, theyre all true. I just got some of the sequences wrong, okay. Reporter thats because cara was in shock, he said, and questioned on and off for nearly ten hours. Its a logical explanation in the inconsistencies. Reporter still, so many stories. Maybe he thought he could find a way to reduce the number of caras stories a future jury would hear. Remember the deputy who failed to record audio when she was in the police car . The deputy said thats when he read cara her miranda warning, the right to remain silent and have an attorney. But did he . There is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that miranda was never read. Reporter if cara wasnt read her rights, that statement would be thrown out, a jury would never hear it. So there was a hearing. The prosecutor questioned the deputy. Did you read her her miranda warning . I did. How long had she been in the patrol car when you did that . About 15 minutes. Reporter and heres how the deputy said cara responded her comment was, yes, ian d understand. Reporter she swore that never happened. Absolutely not. Reporter who was right . Thats when her attorney got a big idea. We got a lip reader reporter a lip reader . A lip reader. I was looking at the video and thought if he socalled read miranda, even though the sounds not on, if we get a lip reader were going to be able it tell if she answered like she explained he answered. Reporter and if she didnt, maybe he could prevent a jury from hearing that first conflicting story. Does it surprise people when they find out how well you can read lips . Yes. Reporter and here she is, lucinda headler, who is deaf, is the lip reader hired by the attorney. Had you heard such a request before . It was the first time in my whole life. Reporter the video was very grainy. Hard to decipher. But lucinda told fuderman she would try. What were you looking for her to say . I was specifically looking for, yes, i understand my rights. I see no evidence of her saying those words. Reporter right. But then a judges ruling meant it suddenly didnt matter what lucinda saw or didnt see. A miranda warning, said the judge, wasnt necessary at that point. You have the rye to remain silent reporter and she had been read her rights later at the police station. The jury would get to hear caras first conflicting statement. Fuderman was deflated. Somehow he was sure lucinda had to be good for his case, but he knew the judges ruling was a problem. He switched gears and planned his strategy to pick a jury. We anticipated that women would be favorable to someone that had been raped. Reporter he decided to do a dry run, enlisted mock juries to listen to evidence from cara himself. It was rare to witness the workings of a mock trial. Theyre usually secret. This is the audio as she testify. Thats when i reached for the gun. When you shot, did you know who you shot . No. Not until i heard his voice. Reporter fuderman acted as prosecutor. The questioning was withering. Now we have three stories within a couple of hours period, and your explanation is what . I was stunned. I was shocked. I was an emotional wreck. Reporter that should go down well with female jurors, he thought. And i was dead wrong. Reporter heres what the mock jurors told fuderman while some women gave the answer he expected i found her not guilty. She was already in fear for her life. Reporter most found her guilty as sin. I dont believe for one second that she was raped. Reporter as for the men, the result was practically reversed. The facts of the case are that someone broke into the home, and they were afraid and they shot him. Reporter were fuderman and his cocounsel surprised . You bet they were. Trying to rethink time to rethink strategy. Every case is winnable. And every case has pros and cons. Reporter caras case winnable . Well, that remained to be seen. Coming up, at trial, testimony that j. J. Had recently cut his financial ties to cara, and there was going to be hell to pay. The west coast he died, i the week he died i helped him get Bank Accounts away for her. That was the first week money didnt hit the account. 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The women complained about inappropriate comments the former mayor of new york made to them when they worked for his company. Now back to dateline. Reporter . Quite two years after not quite two years after cara ryan shot her husband, liz jack stood before a jury and painted a picture a cold, manipulative woman who could no longer control or even have her once compliant exhusband. So on march 7th, 2015, she invited him over for sex. He accepted her invitation, and by the end of the night he was dead. Reporter dead, the state charged, because he had the temerity to leave her and take up with another woman. She was not happy about it. I think she was definitely shocked. To her it came out of nowhere. Reporter and he didnt just leave her. He cut off the money. She was financially dependent on him, and he left her. She was used to having x number more dollars in her bank account. Reporter now it was gone. Now it was gone. Reporter listen to the 911 call so devoid of emotion said the prosecutor. Evidence that this popular teacher was capable of murder. Reporter more evidence soon after the murder, police asked j. J. s daughter megan to call cara. They recorded the call. It, too, was played for the jury. The monotone, the lack of m sympathy. Shes talking to the daughter of the man she shot and killed. Reporter the jury also saw these selfies from caras phone. They were taken three days after the shooting. She just killed her lover of so many years, and here she is out drinking. Seemed very odd. Reporter and remember all those stories about caras control over j. J. . Megan told the jury how he had to sneak around with his own daughter. He would give me money and gas gift cards or grocery gift cards to make it look like he had bought gas or groceries because if he took cash out or money out to give me, it would cause some type of ordeal. Reporter but his new love, lonnie lanktow, told the jury about the change in j. J. As soon as he left cara. His relationship with his daughter was so much better because he didnt have to answer to why he was talking to her, what was it about, what did she want. Reporter wait a minute, he had to answer for how he talked to his daughter . Oh, absolutely. That was a big deal. Reporter j. J. , she said, loved his newly found freedom. He was so excited, he was so happy to not have to answer to someone for every single thing he did or said. Reporter and lonnie told the jury that all hell broke loose after j. J. Cut off his financial ties to cara. The week he died, i helped him get Bank Accounts away from her. That was the first week the money didnt hit the account. And she had a fit. It was about money with her. Reporter then the night j. J. Died, the prosecutor said cara lured him with that invitation for sex via xrated Text Messages which were displayed for the jury. We also found that she downloaded a book, how to get your man back or something to that effect. Reporter just how badly did she want him back . These are from notes cara wrote to herself on her phone. I would do anything to make it work, i love you. I want to start over. How can you just abandon a 20year relationship . Stuff that we found in her cell phone that showed this shock and this dismay that, you know, how could he do this . Reporter remember, cara accused j. J. Of raping her. So the prosecutor told the jury that dna tests didnt even show clear evidence theyd had sex. And those bruises on caras hip were, judging from texts with the new boyfriend, not from j. J. The rough sex a couple of days prior to the shooting is what led to whatever injuries she may have had. Reporter the red marks on her wrists could have been from sex play, said the state. Could have been from struggling with her handcuffs here in the police car. Nothing led me to believe that there was anything from this alleged altercation with j. J. That was on her body at all. Reporter and remember how cara told detectives that j. J. Went back to drinking and abusing oxycodone after they broke up . The medical examiner testified that the level of alcohol in his system was very low that night, and there was no trace of opiates in his blood at the time of his death. He had one one pill in his pocket at the time of his death. And he obviously had the prescription because he injured his back. Reporter so if the detectives were right that cara wasnt defending herself, why that night at that moment did she take out the gun and pull the trigger . Because, said the prosecutor, her ploy, her attempt to lure him back failed. And she was losing control of him. The states theory, that cara did send graphic self toes her new boyfriend, and j. J. Did see them. She wanted to make him jealous, but he didnt attack her. He just walked out on her. I think its reasonable to believe that he said this is it, this is over, you know, so maybe that plays a part into her saying, you know, im not going to get him back. Reporter and so things went south. She wasnt happy. Reporter the police and the prosecutor said it couldnt have happened the way cara said it did. For one thing, when First Responders arrived just moments after the shooting really, all the lights in the house were on. It wasnt in darkness, the way she had described it. And this room is so tiny that somebody standing in the doorway could reach out and touch the finger of the person on the bed. So wouldnt she have recognized the man she lived with for 20 years when he was that close . Wouldnt she have recognized the sound of his footsteps coming across the floor . And the bullet that killed him went in through his upper arm at the back and down into his heart, as if he wasnt coming in to attack her but as if he was turning away, perhaps to run. You saw the trajectory of the bullet. What story did it tell you about what must have happened in that bedroom doorway . J. J. Was walking out or turned to leave the bedroom and saw it coming and may have ducked down. Her story of i saw this hand reaching toward me and i pulled the trigger, it doesnt line up with how the apg ngle of the shooting. I said, did the bullet hang a uturn . It doesnt work like that. Reporter perhaps the states strongest evidence was in caras own words. Jurors listened to those hours and hours of ever evolving stories. I was scared. I didnt know who was coming in. I think any normal person, you know, would be able to look at those interviews and say shes lying. You know, shes not telling the truth. Theres nothing in there that tells me, you know, that theres a reasonable explanation for her action. Reporter yes, there was a reasonable explanation, said the defense. The jury was about to hear it. Coming up, cara takes a gamble that could decide her fate. 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And the womens rationale was all emotionally based. They wanted to hear much more emotion in her. They wanted to hear her crying. Reporter this client is not like that. Thats not her. Its just not how she is. Reporter so he worked hard to ensure there were mostly males in the jury. In florida, seconddegree murders cases have sixperson juries and he succeeded five of the six were men. We believed the men wouldnt be focused on the emotion but more on the facts. Reporter what else did you look for in the jury . Gun owners. People that were not afraid to shoot someone if they came into their house unannounced. And almost every one of our jurors had a gun and was not afraid to use it. Reporter once the trial began, he told those jurors that cara had no choice but to use her gun to defend herself, plain and simple. He attacks her, she says, stop, never acted like this. Youre raping me, stop. Reporter Something Else the defense tried to do persuade the jury that j. J. Was out of control after seeing that text from caras new boyfriend and came back to the house in a rage. He snapped. She defended herself. He snapped. Reporter those are the elements. You need to get a jury tonl believe he was capable of snapping correct. Reporter and she legitimately was in fear hear for life. Correct. Reporter she wasnt angry and wanted revenge but was terrified. Correct. Reporter so part of the strategy was put the victim on trial. You went after him pretty hard. You went after him for you call it essentially a drunk. You talked about the oxycodone use. And you made it sound like he was, you know, a victoolcano ab to explode. There was no doubt as our expert said he was a chronic xanax and oxycodone user. Reporter right. For good reason. His injuries for good reason they were proscribed. As needed. Three to four a day. Thats a lot. We dont know when he was taking them. Reporter even though the medical examiner testified that j. J. s blood showed low levels of alcohol and no trace of painkillers that night, fuderman claimed withdrawal set j. J. Off. He was drinking, he was coming off oxy, he was coming off xanax. He was taking antidepressants. He was filled with rage. He was confused. And all of these things could lead him to snap that night because thats what happened. He snapped. He had bad addictions. He had bad sides to him. He wasnt a bad guy. Reporter but his friends, his family felt as if the dead guy is being dragged through the mud. Sure. Reporter did you feel bad about it . I didnt want it to happen. I never wanted to go to court and air all of our dirty laundry. Reporter but now that she was here accused of murder, j. J. s reputation was fair game, said her attorney. I think there was a lot of sides to j. J. That his best friends didnt know. Reporter including his cop buddies, said fuderman. Cops who he charged with blind to anything but caras alleged guilt and would do anything to prove it. It wasnt an investigation, it was a witchhunt. They sprang up out of their beds like a church choir, and they met at that gate with pitchforks. Reporter why would they do that . They were his friends. They were his buddies, his brothers. I told the jury, the police are going to lie to you. Reporter lie . As when the deputy said he read cara her rights in the patrol care, said fuderman. 15, 20 minutes. Reporter the deputy originally said it was during first 15 minutes. Then he changed his story. And he said, i no longer read miranda within 15 minutes. I read it in an hour and ten minutes later. Reporter she wasnt facing a camera at that point. Correct. Reporter her attorney charged that the deputy change ed his story after finding the lip reader had been analyzing caras words. The deputy said, no, he refreshed his memory by looking at the tape. Fuderman wasnt buying it. He lied. Reporter thats when he put lucinda on the stand. She confirmed she never saw miranda respond to a miranda warning. She couldnt always tell what was said on the video, but fuderman had made the point. When you lie to a jury, when your witness is lying, get on that stand, especially a Police Officer and lie, the jurys not going to forgive you. And he lloyd. Reporter maybe. The defense had to account for the prosecutions strongest evidence against cara her shifting versions, her many different stories about what happened. My story didnt change. It just got it out of sequence. He came in the door, he raped me, he was enraged. He came in the door and yelled at me. He left. He came back. It was just the sail thing, just a little same thing, just a little muddled. Reporter a little more than muddled. Things happened at different times in different tellings, right . I just got things out of sequence. Reporter uhhuh. I was in shock. I was scared out of my mind. I had never seen him like that. Reporter at the trial, attorney fuderman had an expert offer this opinion trauma can affect how you remember things. Sometimes a moment of selfpreservation can affect how you say things. Reporter but cara was consistent about one thing her claim that j. J. Raped her. Evidence to back that up the marks on her wrists said fuderman. And he called another expert to say they were fresh, hours old. Couldnt have been caused by the new boyfriend. It was a quantum leap from the state to say the sex that she had 36 hours prior to the incident eed incident would leave fresh scratches or a bruise. Reporter the state said the marks could have been left by the hand cuffs, too. Again, fuderman had made his point. Now cara had to make a decision should she testify or not . I thought, i really dont want to testify. Im scared, its painful. And then roger said, its totally up to you, but my gut says testify. And i said no. Reporter but in the middle of the night she told us she changed her mind. 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Reporter cara ryan had made the decision to testify. A risky decision. Yet fuderman had confidence in his client. I told her, tell the truth, be yourself. Dont be fake. Dont put fake tears. If you are yourself and you do tell the truth, you cant go wrong. Reporter cara took the stand and tried to explain why there were differences in the way she told her story. She also explained to the jury that she was smiling in those photos taken two days after she shot j. J. Because her friend asked her to smile. Then came the bombshell. He left a suicide note. Reporter when did he write that note . I dont know when he wrote it. Reporter her attorney said she made the discovery after going through more than 300 pieces of evidence. And i bursted out crying because i thought his last words to me were, im going to kill you, and youre [ bleep ] whore. His last words were sad. Reporter the letter read, i love you more than ive loved anything or anyone in my entire life. I wish with all my soul that you felt the same way. Please take care of megan. Im sorry i failed you because i really did love you. Was that a suicide note . I think so. Reporter thats a matter of opinion . I think when you say take care of my daughter, i did love you, take care of megan, all the other insecurities in that note, the point of that note to me was theres another side of j. J. People didnt know. There were real issues there. Reporter but the idea that was a suicide note ludicrous, said the prosecution. Could have been written years earlier, probably was, after all why would he ask cara to take care of megan . She was an adult living on her own when j. J. Was killed. And j. J. Was over the moon with his new life with a new woman. So those expressions of love, highly unlikely at the time of his death. Anyway, with that it was over. Cara had done all she could to make her case. What was it like when that jury went out . I knew it was in gods hands. There was nothing i could do. Now, my attorney looked like somebody punched him in the gut. But i was just in eerie calm. Reporter megan was anything but calm as the jury deliberated. It was nerveracking. I was wondering what they were talking about. Reporter ron fowler was foreman of the jury. Amy padrilla was the one and only woman. How did the prosecution was you to see her and her character . You know, manipulated and and a coldblooded killer. Reporter would you agree with that . Well, yeah. I guess maybe not quite to that degree. Shes a teacher, shes never been in trouble before. Reporter as you listened to testimony, ron found caras actions odd. Shed never cried when she was on the phone with the stepdaughter, im so sorry, i didnt mean to shoot him. That really bothered me through the case. Reporter they were less bothered, mind you, by the way caras story of what happened kept changing. The testimony from some of the experts says thats not unusual. Victims of assaults, physical assaults or Sexual Assaults act different than people who are contemplating murder. Reporter score one for the defense in a series otherwise of strikeouts. Its portrayal of j. J. As an opiateaddicted drunk for one. When they tried to paint him as being this, you know, drunk, on drugs and irrational, i didnt put a lot of basis to that. I always figure if someone is able to keep a job for ten years, theyre doing something right. Reporter then lucinda the lip reader who said she didnt see evidence the deputy read cara her miranda rights in the cruiser, the defense called the deputy a liar. Remember that . I think the defense was trying to do whatever they could to create doubt. Thats their job. I didnt think it added much to, you know, the evidence that we were looking at. I didnt believe that the policeman did read the rights based upon his testimony. But later, they did when they really continued to ask questions. Then they read the miranda rights. Reporter another defense strikeout. The suicide note, if thats what it was, didnt add much for it either. I think just for me it spoke to his state of mind. Reporter did it seem like a suicide note to you, or was it more i read it several times. Theres different meanings that you could put to it. I just didnt think it had a basis for what happened that night. Reporter finally, caras risk i decision to testify. Did it pay off . I was surprised that she testified, but it didnt alter my thought process before or after. Reporter so they gathered in the jury room. Five men, one woman. Two years worth of evidence and testimony to review and debate. Then they had to decide who to believe and what mattered and what the evidence proved. Its a horrendous waiting moment. Reporter and it wasnt very many moments. The jury decided in just 90 minutes that usually means guilty. In that short period of time. Your spirits rose. Absolutely. I asked my attorney what that meant, he said you cant tell what theyre going to do. When they came back quickly, i was petrified. Reporter the jury speaks. It was stone silence. All you heard was ahh from everyone. Colonial penn can help. Hi, im jonathan, a manager here at Colonial Penn Life Insurance company. And with Coverage Options starting at just 9. 95 a month, you can get a whole Life Insurance plan to help close that gap with a benefit check paid directly to your beneficiary. Its cash they can use right away, and generally, its free from federal income tax. If youre between age 50 and 85, Coverage Options start at just 9. 95 a month. And the rate is locked in, so it can never go up. There are no medical questions. You cannot be turned down for any health reason. And it comes with two lifetime guarantees. One, your coverage can never be cancelled, and two, your rate can never go up. This is our 1 most popular whole Life Insurance plan. Take the first step now. 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A cell phone camera recorded it. The words that changed caras life. As to the defendant in this case see the defendant is not guilty. Reporter not guilty. My first moment was, thank you to my attorney, roger. And his cocounsel. And then my next thought was to turn around and look at my mother and say, mom, its okay. Reporter that we need hardly tell you is certainly not what j. J. s brother was doing or feeling. I said to myself, youre [ bleep ] kidding me. Reporter or his sister. There was stone silence and all you heard was, ahh, from everyone. We were in shock, exactly. We were in shock. Reporter or his daughter, megan. I didnt really believe that thats what i heard. And i didnt want to cause a scene. So i walked out, and the moment i hit the doors, i fell to the floor. I couldnt physically move anymore. Reporter it was just like it was when she heard he was dead, she said. Heart shattered again. Somebody who had hurt you for so long and then hurt you in the biggest way anybody ever could just won again. Like she always did. Reporter so why did the jury acquit . In the end they said it boiled down to a single question did cara shoot j. J. In selfdefense or rage . I dont think it was out of rage. I think it was out of fear. It was the sense of fear. Sense of selfdefense that he was angry, that he left and came back that still resonated with me of the selfdefense issue being pretty strong. Reporter amy had no doubt, she said. Cara must have been assaulted. What evidence persuaded you of that . The marks on her arms and her entire demeanor at the time of the interviews, after the murder. She presented as a very scared victim of an assault. Reporter amy didnt believe those marks could have come from the kinky sex kara had with her new boyfriend. The evidence was presented that the marks were less than 24 hours old. Reporter nor did amy buy the prosecutions theory that cara got those marks from handcuffs in the police car. I believe the testimony that she was in fear of her life and she was defending herself, as she had been instructed by her reporter by him. By her exhusband. Reporter the jury was unanimous. Cara shot j. J. In selfdefense. Was there evidence enough to say that she did not act in selfdefense . Thats where none. Us could come to that conclusion. Reporter caras life is no longer on hold. Last time we spoke she said she hoped to get back to teaching now that this ordeal was behind her. At the end of the interview, the woman who revealed little, motion to juries mock or real, finally did. What are you feeling right this second. I feel like i feel like jays still with me. I think about him every day, and i wish things were different. I wish i could have saved him. I wish i could have done something differently. And i know this has caused a lot of pain for not just his family but my family. Reporter after the trial, j. J. s daughter megan filed a wrongful death lawsuit against cara. In january, 2019, the parties reached a settlement. And while some terms were kept confidential, they publicly agreed that j. J. s death was in no way unlawful or intentional. As for lonnie longtow, she lives with the loss of j. J. Every day. It never goes away, but we keep john alive with each other. The family and i are very close. I get to talk to megan every day. I get to see the things that he missed, misses, and hope that hes seeing them and hes proud of her. Reporter and megan, who in fact did get that job as a police dispatcher, is now trying to navigate a future without him. Wish that it could be different. I just have to go forward with my life and live to make my dad very proud of what ive become. Reporter oh, i think he probably is. I really hope so. I really hope so. Im craig melvin. Im natalie morales. And this is dateline. Oh, god, please. Maam, okay. Oh, god. Maam. I just knew that she was gone. She was a bright young momtobe. She was beautiful. Confident, strong. It was the smile that got me. Moving on from a messy divorce jumping into a new romance. No one could believe it when they found her. Theyre saying it was a homicide. Then police found Something Else. Revealing recordings. Everything changed like instantly. Its weird. Brittany is essentially speaking from the grave