the region. there's another 10,000 or so who may well escape kurdish control in the coming weeks. so isis is not down and out by this operation. >> i'm hoping we can go to matt bradley. spent a lot of his career on isis. a minute until we go to the president. talk about russia's role in all of this. the president's remarks just about an hour away. matt? >> reporter: yeah. russia's role in all of this, not clear if russia can play a role in this competing episode where everybody will want to claim as fast and convincingly as they can, some kind of credit fort death of abu bakr al baghdadi. we saw the turkish government, iraqi government, forces on the ground in syria. all of these people rushing to