popes opponents, we see how he's aplied that miitary battle from grozny and chechnya, if you eliminate a hospital from the city, it makes it harder for civilians to stay. this has been a russian playbook that is now unfolding in ukraine. >> damon, as you were speaking a second ago, we were showing video from putin's big maga-style rally held in russia, showing it again. what do you make of that? there are reports that people were bused in, sort of forced to be there. how should we view that rally from friday? >> i think this is a sign that he is really focused on the knowledge that he, despite being an autocrat, he does care what the russian people think. that's why he goes to great lengths to control the information environment in russia. and it is very clear what we saw in 2014, when russian body bag started coming home, and mothers