>> thank, you mister chairman. very shortly after the election, the trump campaign recognize that they had likely lost the election and they informed on trump of that fact. even before the networks called the race for president biden november 7th, his chances of pulling out a victory virtually nonexistent. and president trump knew it. >> do you know if anybody ever told the president that he had lost? and that there wasn't a chance of him winning? >> i know that the president -- when the networks called, it he was informed about the network decision. that afternoon at some point, myself and a handful of other folks on over and said i'm with the president and he communicated that the odds of us prevailing in legal challenges were very small.