department's investigation. it is unclear if d.c. has been contacted by smic office since meeting with the donor. investigators in a special counsel's office have asked witnesses about trump's calls with governors, including the one to doocy, according to people familiar with the matter. if smith has spoken with doocy or plans to in the future, that could mean even more legal jeopardy for the ex president, especially considering he likely faces another indictment out of georgia for that similar call by brad raffensperger who her just a moment ago. harry lippman joins us now. he is the former deputy assistant general in the department of justice. danya perry served as deputy attorney general for the new york state. the bunk is for the washington post where he has written extensively about the various investigations into donald trump. they watch us now. harry, i wonder what you make of this latest development? >> in a sense, it is cumulative, alicia. right? we have known about the pressure campaign to the governors, michigan to georgia, with electors in nevada.