>> well, i think it is until we get our fiscal house in order. >> get that house in order. did any of this change when he was hired to run trump's debt-busting government? not officially. even in his confirmation hearing under oath, he claimed he was still trying to address the debt. >> i believe as a matter of principle that the debt is a problem that must be addressed sooner rather than later. >> how does he justify working for a president spending money on things he can't pay for including the tax cuts which may or may not affect the recession. mulvaney was asked if the deficit would be mentioned and he said nobody cares. does he have low self-esteem? i'm here to tell you, you're not nobody. you're somebody. you spent years caring or pretending to care along with paul ryan and the tea party. was it a lie? in the times this question has been raised, he says this is just adjusting to the beltway.