that's worth watching. >> are we just all trying to look at this too soon? it feels like we're going to -- i look at just the white collar private sector. it's clear that we are going to have a slow movement back into the office, because lo and behold, it's summer. there's been this demand that people want a little more break. is the october -- the september jobs report the first one that will really tell us where we are headed as an economy? >> maybe. you raise a good point, which is, if you put this comeback against any previous comeback from a recession, we are actually on the fastest speed. you have the youtube video playing at 2.5 speed. it's just that our patience level with recovery and business cycles has gone so down during this pandemic. >> doug, same question to you. is this really -- we are trying to almost -- almost trying too