health authority in those processing centers. and if any of the exceptions apply, then we will place those individuals in immigration enforcement proceedings. but if we are able to expel them under title 42 because that is indeed a public health imperative, as determined by the centers for disease control, we will do so. and with that, i'll take your questions. >> reporter: thank you. mr. secretary, thank you very much for coming in to take our questions. >> of course. >> reporter: i was hoping you could explain more of your view that these agents on the border acted in a way that violated policies or procedures. can you tell us what they did wrong, to start? my second question has to do with what this episode -- how this episode informs your understanding or thinking about the current and ongoing asylum review and whether perhaps if the administration were to take a more permissive stance for asylum, member in a particular social group, that this episode could be seen as one of many in