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alongside jessica williams. she's also out with a new book where she serves her personal commentary on social issues including ally ship, white guilt, and white people taking up cultural movements. in her book, she writes her formative alliship is more than being keenly aware of the camera, aka, the world, and presenting an idealized version of yourself, and also the idea of whiteness, which means by design, the work that is done is to soothe and protect whiteness, not dismantle it. phoebe robinson joins me now. phoebe, i am so excited to have you here. as you know, i am a fan of your work and a fan of your books, and i would ask how you managed to be so prolific, but i feel as though the past year and a half has given you a lot of material to talk about. >> yeah, i mean, i certainly wasn't planning on writing a book last year. but i was inside, thinking a

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