Disturbing video today by cost toms and border protection. Lets show you the video first. Officials say it was reported on the arizonamexico border saturday night. A group of men, two of whom are armed with automatic or semiautomatic weapons, pull up in a truck and a woman and a young boy with them. They walk up to the border. The armed men stop on the mexican side while another man who appears to be unarmed escorts the mother and child through the fence, points the way to them and hops back through. Cvp moved in quickly to detain her son that are kwaguatamaulan. Its disturbing to see the apparent human smugglers on the border. Several thousand migrants are in mexico heading to the u. S. Border, by train, bus and on foot. They are still around. 1,000 miles from the border itself. Its difficult to get an accurate estimate of the numbers, but those travelling with the migrants put the number at around 3,000. Yesterday Mexican Police detained more than 350 of the migrants in what appeared to be a wellplanned operation to disrupt the caravan. That may have reduced the numbers. We cannot emphasize enough, the numbers are frequently inaccurate. President trumps claiming that the caravan is 20,000 strong. According to all of the information we can find, neil, seems to be very much inflated. Neil . Neil jonathan, disputed reports as well that the mexicans are not doing enough to stop the train or stop these folks from getting on the train or that theyre just looking the other way. We dont know, right . We dont flow. The evidence from the video yesterday, they appeared to carry out this wellcoordinated operation to round up some of no those migrants. Theres several thousand, 3,000 according to the a. P. , in the current caravan. That in essence is a very small number of them. Obviously President Trump has called on the Mexican Government to do more remains to be seen if they will follow what are essentially president ial orders, neil. Neil jonathan hunt, thanks very much. It does show renewed dangers for our border agents, how to deal with it, looking at how a lot of these armed member, for example, are helping in one case escort a woman and a child to the u. S. Border. Forming acting ice direct or the, thomas holman. Now you can see why the president wants to send armed soldiers to the border. It seems to escalate by the minute. Its very concerning. As i said, neil, many times, none of this is happening on the board border without the coordination and the approval of the mexican drug cartels. They control everything. From the incursion with the military that was working on behalf of the drug cartels to what we saw. This should be concerning to the administration. This emergency on the border, this cry i haves on the border, we have to throw everything at it before something devastating happens. Neil and a judge is pondering what to do about remaining in mexico, if youre apprehended and going through the whole thing, the mexican authorities and will be responsible for those in mexico. They will not be able to wait it out in the United States. Now, assuming as they have in the past courts do go along with it, now what are we looking at . The same thing ive been pushing. The courts have not helped the president. Hes the only one trying to think out of the box. Every time he dos something, the courtses hold him up. Congress has not done anything. The democratic leadership has not offered up one fix. We need to do what congress is failing to do. Ice needs to do a national operation. Look for these family groups, have their day in court and the judge says they have to go home. We have to excuse those orders. I ran the operation 3 1 2 years ago and the numbers went down significantly because we so consequence of deterrence. Hsi, the portion of ice, needs to go with mexico and work with the federal police that we vetted and identify these criminal cartels, dismantel them and put them in prison. Smuggling is illegal in mexico. Right now theyre operating with impunity. Mexico needs to step up and show them a way. Hsi needs to take a bigger role down there. I appreciate what theyre doing right now, but my concern is this. Is it a dog and pony show to just appease the president or are they actually going to sustain operations that will result in the arrest and removal of Central Americans back to their home country . Neil the irony would be at face value, the mexicans accepting at face value theyre trying to deal with this problem themselves, have made it easier for these migrants to get here. Bingo. Because its illegal in mexico to transit without a transit visa. So if theyre not applying to mexican immigration for a transit visa, theyre operating illegal in mexico. Mexico needs to step up and enforce their own laws. If they do that, it would have a significant effect on the people coming north. Its not just about law enforcement. Its about saying lives. As we know, 31 of women are sexually assaulted in this trip. Children have died. More children will die. This is not just about enforcing the law. This is about saving lives and saving Womens Health and childrens health. Even if you dont like ice, will you please do something to save lives . That needs to be the message. Neil thomas homan, thank very much. You heard from the president ial candidates like cory booker who acknowledge we have a crisis at the border. Dave johnson, former barack obama Homeland Security secretary saying we have an merge at the border. Now tom friedman leftist columnist, both parties need to do something right now. Talking about the need for something that is dramatic. Lets go to Daniel Mclaughlin and bill mcgurn. Bill, its escalating fast and everybody is acknowledging that but nobody is doing anything. What we see is what you get after decades of congress not acting. I was in the Bush White House when we tried a bipartisan Immigration Reform. Then senator obama is one of those that decided to deep six it. I think theres reasonable tradeoffs that can be made. Each side has to give a little. Right now i dont think theres a mood for that. I agree with you. The price that some of the democrats may pay for working or being seen to work with anything with trump, especially on that golden issue of immigration, which build the wall, thats how he got elected, with the one message. So the price they fear theyre pay is at the polls. Neil dan, its interesting. We were at the san diego border and looking at the fact that its a very high wall. Seemed to embrace high wall and he noticed a lot of the chicanery and problems start when you left that area where there was no wall. Abdicating that a wall wouldnt be an answer. The president said it was urgent and its right. Its all about the rhetoric. Neil do you call it an emergency . Yes. And democrats need to step up. They will pay a political price if they dont do something about the women and children that are coalescing and coming up around the failed nation states. It has to be comprehensive. Dont you think the reason youre acknowledging that they need to get on board, a lot of people are acknowledging its a crisis, democrats. But theyre not making a move towards it because then it looks like theyre extending an olive branch to trump. I feel like they risk what the Public Perception is neil theyre crafty enough not to read polls. Thats a number 1 issue for americans. Healthcare. Im wondering the longer this goes una dressed, savvy candidates like cory booker are realizing i dont want to be on the wrong end of it. The dominant mode is, they would rather deny trump a victory where he would present it as a victory than get victories of their own. Look, i was in support neil they wouldnt be a defeat for themselves. They did make the trade, wall for daca. Regularizing these people here under daca in a legal limbo. That would have been a straightoff tried. They couldnt they couldnt get beyond it. I dont think well get comprehensive Immigration Reform any time before 2020. I would like to see them pick one piece of this, whether its our asylum laws, trying the administration trying to rationalize the system, making people go through certain checkpoints for asylum claims neil or while theyre waiting on that process out, do it in mexico. That seems to have been a heinous decision. I dont know what the big deal is. What do you think . Theres other ways with dealing with asylum seekers. There was a program under the Obama Administration that was community based. They went to check in to ice offices, in the 90th percentile. Theres other things that democrats want. They want a daca fix. They want citizenship for dreamers. Im not sure theyll get that. They could have had it. They could have had it. Thats the point. They chose neil theyre talking past east other. Theres broad agreement. Were passed that and then we have incidents that involving u. S. Detainees or those dealing with those trying to cross the border who are second guessed by mexican officials and held at gun point until they can resolve which side of the border theyre on. Turns out the u. S. Guards are on the u. S. Side of the border and beyond the fence, which obviously leaves wiggle room here. This is how crazy its getting. It could end violently. Of course. But i think that the worst problem is, we have a crisis at hand. Both parties have acknowledged its a crisis. But because donald trump has done everything he said hes going to do, fulfilled every promise but the biggest one, the biggest piece is immigration. I think the democrats, if they play a hand, they all know that donald trump will tweet out, look what i did. He will claim victory for it and theres reelection. They wont do it till after 2020, if they do it at all. If i were President Trump neil then well be up to 200,000. If i were President Trump, i would propose a compromise now. They can reject it. Its clear who is doing the rejecting and who is doing the proposing and could be something revived. Neil well watch closely. Its a mess because know side knows for sure what the other is doing and they get trigger happy in the process. Were monitoring that. The president responding to democrats that want to subpoena white house officials past, present and everyone in between to speak on capitol hill. 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Greg, you say enough is enough. We reached out to jerry nadler. We have not heard back. Congressman, your point is that they shouldnt testify or that you cant force the issue . When is enough enough . Youve had 22 months to investigate, 25 million that was spent with 18 lawyers, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants and 500 witness interviews. At one point you say enough investigations . Theres no collusion. The attorney general decides not to have any obstruction charges. As a country, we need to focus and improve lives of americans. Neil so youd be against any of these hearings, period . I just dont think what are we going to learn from these hearings from the people that are part of this report that we havent learned already . Neil so the fact that maybe they could elaborate on this, very different when someone has been writing and you hear the exchange like a don mcgahn who was a white house counsel, that were told the president wanted him to fire bob mueller. Wouldnt you want to get to the bottom of that, what happened or what . I think President Trump and the administration was very transparent in the investigation. They didnt claim executive privilege. I think they will claim executive privilege when their former general counsel testifies and he has every right to do that. Neil youre right. Its politics involved and the fact of the matter is, this obviously isnt going away. To your colleagues that are saying we need to get to the bottom of this to say whether its an Impeachable Offense that bob mueller left out there for them to decide. He wouldnt rule on obstruction and dropped it in their lap. Do you agree with their characterization like that . I think it was in the beginning, the last four months, they said lets wait for the Mueller Report. The Mueller Report comes out and no collusion. That disappointed the democrats. They thought there was something that could be impeachable. Because they dont have that, theyre going to do everything they can to see if they can move forward. A number of different members where they said that they want to move forward with impeachment. There was some freshmen members that came into congress that talked about impeachment soon after getting sworn in. Theres members in their delegation thats what they wanted to do the last four months. They dont have any facts or evidence to support it. Neil okay. One thing i want to get clear. Is it your sense, if you had an opportunity to talk to don mcgahn and some of these other people, what would you want to know . Lets say they testified. You get a sense of internal frustration among some aides that decided that they ignored his orders and that saved them. Hard to say. What would you want to find out . What i would want to find out, how do we get to where we are now. 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A Trump Campaign spokes woman adds the extremity and radicalism of the 2020 democrats knows no bounce. Giving murders and felons the right to vote is offensive to those across the country. And you might think this marks a historic moment. The first time the Trump Campaign and cher have agreed on a controversial issue. Its not. She posted something complaining about los angeles ignoring citizens to take care of Illegal Immigrants and now donald trump junior writes in case you missed it, when i thanked you for rallying against the insanity of sanctuary cities, welcome to the republican party. Cher has campaigned for democrats before. We dont have any reason shes done with that party just yet. Neil strange world we live in. Thanks, peter doocy. The New York Times saying that a lot of folks are getting increasingly scared about Bernie Sanders. The read on that with my next guest, real clear politics reporter, phil wegman. It is an Unusual Alliance on the left. Bernie . No. But those views are extreme for them . Its not just Voting Rights here. This is the latest thing. Youve got to remember that Bernie Sanders has a lot of baggage that democrats know republicans and President Trump are going to exploit. This is Bernie Sanders that wrote some pretty creepy things in the 1970s. Bernie sanders that traveled to the ussr and praised the russian government there. And Bernie Sanders, the democratic socialist that became a millionaire with his book sales. People frustrated with Hillary Clinton, they can swallow that. The question is whether or not that swing votener a general election will look the other way. Right now i think democrats are worried because until biden gets in, Bernie Sanders is the undisputed frontrunner. Neil i thought he was more the populous cup of tea than joe biden would ever be. And now the environment has changed. Theres more candidates. Younger hipper versions of what hes espoused. This is more than i thought. Youre right. Bernie sanders has absolutely remade the Democratic Party in his own image. We think about things like free cleaning. A 15 minimum wage or medicare for all. Those were cult favorites four years ago. They might as well be party orthodoxy. Hes consistent in things and democrats are thinking maybe this goes too far. Again, the question is, that might appeal to the progressive voter in the primary, but how does that appeal to the swing voter in the midwest . You see some candidates in the democratic field distancing themselves from sanders and trying to occupy more of the center lane. Pete buttigieg was a perfect example when he was asked about question about felons voting and the Boston Marathon bomber being able to vote. He said no. He got thunderous applause. Neil and if injury joe biden, do you like this . Do you worry about this . What . It provides an opportunity for biden to try and claw back some of the centrist voters. You know, the cat is already out of the bag here. When the dnc decided on their rules for this primary, they were so haunted by accusations of favoritism towards Hillary Clinton in 2016 that they lowered the qualifications for the debate stage, they opened the flood gates and they have welcomed 18 candidates. The problem with 18 contenders, that allows someone with high name recognition to do very well without winning a majority of the votes that benefits someone like biden. Excuse me. Like sanders. The question is whether or not biden with his own name recognition can counter that. Neil that same notoriety can make you a target. Well see. Phil, good chatting. Thank you. Neil meantime, looking for progress in all the oddest places. We know what happened the last time these three got together on funding a wall. How about funding Something Else . After this. Touch shows how we really feel. But does psoriasis ever get in the way . 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Where is this going . Holly is here and jason. Siraj, how likely is it that they can cumbaya on that issue . They got criminal Justice Reform passed. Infrastructure is not that big of a far cry from that. Democrats need this more than President Trump needs it because nancy pelosi is trying to make the case that democrats are the party of reason. They can be reasonable. Even with someone as polarizing as President Trump. If theyre going to go back to the voters in 2020, they want to at least have a little bit of an accomplishment or something on their belt to say hey, we got something done even when everything is against us. Neil holly, i dont know how much support of that infrastructure plan would have, if theres a lot of taxes in it. The president was open to any and all ideas. Would it be dead on arrival for republicans that dont want a big bill for it . Its a challenge. Republicans have questions about how were going to pay for it. Its the most comprehensive infrastructure bills that weve seen. You know, its not just roads and bridges. Its oil and gas and 5g in rural america. Many rural parts will benefit. So this really is an impactful thing something the president wants badly. I appreciate nancy pelosi wants to see this happen. She says she wants to, but im afraid he might have a hard time getting her compatriots on board with this. They can do that while investigating impeaching. Neil she read my mind. Jason, id like your thoughts on that. She might be interesting in proving the Kitchen Table issues, roads, bridges and prepare for the 5g onslaught and be ahead of everybody else on that. Makes sense on paper, but again, many on the left are galvanized by hearings on the Mueller Report, leading to impeachment. Theres the old statement that people can walk and chew gum at the same too. Ive yet to see it. I was going to use the same phrase. Congress has been working, working on process for the entire time, trying to improve the processes that go on in congress and other things like marijuana and many other things that people and democrats are leading on. So its not as though theyre not doing anything. I would agree with what siraj said. Democrats need to show the public that theyre working on these things. It seems as though what is dominating are sound bites about mueller, sound bites about impeachment. That doesnt help the democratic cause. Neil youre right. And who learns that better than republicans going after bill clinton . They overreached. When all was said and done, his Approval Ratings were hiring. You think latching themselves on to a joint effort to get infrastructure abreast is the strike . It could be. Really depends on how much money they actually put into it. In 2015, there was a 300 billion infrastructure bill that passed. Now were already four years later and our roads and bridges are crumbling. Were talking about 5g and expanding that. Democrats have to focus on what makes them governing better than republicans. If they can improve on infrastructure, which is mundane in how bipartisan it can be, you know, they just have to show that they can govern and republicans have no answers to go forward in to 2020. Shepard you have to look at the flip side. People are all for improving roads and bridges. But till it leads to major disruptions around them until its done. Its true. Thats why part of this package is notice just roads and bridges. Neil they have to isolate what its going to be about. Theyre not there yet. Right, jason . Theyre not. Again, one of the things that is still questionable, how are we going to pay for this . A lot of people everything that ive seen says its unavoidable that the average american isnt going to pay more taxes in order to get this done. So theres that to think about. Republicans, some republicans will have issues with that, particularly the ones interested in fiscal austerity. Neil or the ones that have to foot the bill. Thanks very much. Real quickly, i want to let you know, we told you about facebook numbers better than expected. The Company Expects to pay 3 to 5 billion in the on going investigation of the companys handling of public and personal information. That it might have to resolve it by paying that much to make it go away. Easier said than done. Stay with us. Sir, youre a broker. What do you charge for online equity trades . Uh, ill look into it. phone rings lisa jones lisa on phone hey carl, what are you charging me for online equity trades . nervous chuckle lisa and do i get my fees back if im not happy . Like a satisfaction guarantee . Ugh. Schwab lisa oh right, im calling schwab. Thanks, carl wait, lisa lisa. Are you getting low costs backed by a satisfaction guarantee . If not, talk to schwab. 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The democratic chairman of the house judicialry committee issued this statement that reads this morning the president said theyre taking a Firm Position after providing dozens of witness interviews and over a million records. Then he seemed to pivot and question the need for his finance records. Thats part of a separate house investigation. Now mueller i assume for 35 million checked my taxes, checked my finances which are great, by the way. All you have to do is look at the records. Theyre all over the place. Fox news confirmed that the frame for the mcgahn interview is a 2008 office of Legal Counsel memo that makes sure that the sharing in the executive branch and including special counsel can happen but privilege still stands if it goes to a third party like congress. Neil meanwhile, kim jongun rolls into russia. Well be talking to some guests that think that maybe something bigger warrants our attention. Fact is, every Insurance Company hopes you drive safely. 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Putin is most anxious to accommodate him. I think putin has longterm objectives in this thing. One of which is a trans isthmus pipeline that would allow him to bring oil to south korea. What is this . Not that either of the governments are helping north korea work out the sanctions, maybe some to support the regime. Not nearly as much as he needs. So what does he get from tightening that relationship . Particularly with russia. What kim gets, he gets an opportunity for the world to recognize him as a a global leader. His Nuclear Arsenal is key to his sense that he is a global leader. When hes meeting with the american president and the russia president , the chinese premier, it does in fact at least in his own mind and the mind of the north Korean People puts him in a position to be recognized as a global leader. You know, he really isnt. But he does have a Nuclear Arsenal that has thrust him into the limelight. Neil all right. So what do we do . I think the president has to announce that we will continue the major exercises there in korea between the u. S. And Korean Forces as well as japanese forces. Second thing i think we do, we go to the next round of sanctions. What can we do to ratchet this up . Both the chinese and the russians, in spite of what they have said, they violate the sanctions. So we go to the next level and we check with our allies to make sure our coalition is solid and prepared to stand with us against this until we see some movement on the denuclearization. Neil you know the president well. Are you surprised that he hasnt chased at this lately, the testing again, not the same type of missile testing as before, the bellicose language with the secretary of state. Its all provocativetype discussions even though kim jongun is careful what he says. What do you make of that and the fact that our president has been low key in his response and very supportive of kim jongun . Yeah, you know, i think when they came out of the first round of talks, the president made a bad mistake when he said that north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. I think that really stung the president and those around him. I think hes proceeded with much more caution. He realized in the hanoi talks he was not going to get an agreement on denuclearization and he walked out and walked out deliberately and walked out to send a message. I think hes taking this cautiously. I think he wants to keep the rhetoric on this down as much as he can. He doesnt want to ratchet it up. Hes moving slowly and deliberately. Well see what comes out of this meeting with the russians. Neil general, good catching up with you. Good to see you, neil. Neil medicare for all, College Tuition paid, all great ideas. Theres the question of how the heck you pay for it after this. Newdays Operation Home lets veterans buy a home with no down payment and no closing costs. 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Neil House Democrats holding their first hearing on the idea of medicare for all. Elizabeth warren says she wants to wipe out student out for all those who have it. Heather, obviously this carries a hefty price tag, this stuff. Most of the candidates have espoused parts of this, talking about hitting up the rich. Could that do it . If you look at George Mason University estimating that medicare for all alone would cost 32. 6 trillion over the first ten years and to put the interest perspective, that would nearly double the size of our current federal government. No, just taxing the rich and raising taxes will not be nearly enough to pay for all this. Neil when you have people like Bernie Sanders, say what you will of his proposals, he said it would go beyond hiking taxes for the rich. It would extend down the food change. They would get more than they are putting in. He says you cant do it by going after the rich alone. No, you certainly cannot do it by going after the original loan. Bernie sanders has made this idea very popular but at the expense of the 40 Million People who are currently uninsured in america, youre really going to upset the 170 Million People who are insured. If you remember under obamacare, the Affordable Care act, the broken promises that were made. If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. The bottom line is that this will cause massive cuts across the board to doctors and hospital pay. If you look at just below average, below market rates, it would be a nearly 40 cut, driving hospitals and doctors out of business. Theres no way this will work. How Speaker Pelosi saying that she supports these hearings, neil, but she does not support the legislation. Its not just republicans. Neil and its not just nancy pelosi. Barack obama said youre big, bold dreams are fine. Keep pushing them but youve got a way to pay for them have to find a way to pay for them. When you leave out socialism when you talk to voters about paying for college, providing health care, people do like it. I think republicans give the strategy short shrift because a lot of people like it. Yeah, a lot of people like it but again its at the expense of upsetting 170 million americans who do have private insurance. I think when you talk neil they argue that youre paying through the nose for that privilege. I understand what youre saying. Do you think republicans dismiss this at their peril. Theyve got to come back with a firm response. Our job will settle these issues. I think democrats would be better off trying to tackle the student loan crisis and looking at Higher Education costs. That would be a bigger votegetter than medicare for all which cannot be paid for, neil. Neil very, very good point. Heather, thank you very much. All of a sudden, the government is picking up the tab for those college loans, what is to stop the colleges from hiking up the prices and the privilege of going there . Something that we will explore tomorrow. Join us. The five is now. Jesse hello, everybody. I am Jesse Watters with emily compagno, juan williams, dana perino, and greg. Its 5 00 in new york city and this is the five. President trump is ready for allout war with the investigation crazed on capitol hill. I have been the most transparent president and administration in history of our country by far. Now the house goes and starts subpoenaing. They want to know every deal ive ever done. Mueller, i assume for 35 million, checked my taxes, checked my financials which are greats. We are fighting all the