If the measure is defeating the taliban, how will we know if were beaten . How stable is stable enough . If we want a prosperous afghanistan, and that was the goal, is that possible in the next 50 years if ever . Second, if we increase our presence in afghanistan, what longterm u. S. Interests are we pursuing by doing that in the original goal was to eliminate state sponsored terrorist Training Camps. Those are long gone. Even if they came back, its not clear how relevant they would be. Islamists recruit on the internet and kill with cars. So if the goal is to keep islamic extremism from our shores, why is a war in afghanistan not as big as a more enforced travel ban . And how have what we done in afghanistan for a decade that hasnt worked . How do we ensure trumps successor doesnt have to give a people like this in four more years . And how much do we have to achieve to meet these girls . We spent more than a trillion in afghanistan. More troops will mean more deaths and billions in money we dont have. Is it worth it . If we send 5,000 troops to afghanistan and that strategy fails, will we cut our losses and leave as the soviets and british did . Will we send another 5,000, 50,000 . What is afghanistan worth to us . Only the president knows for certain who he will say but one man that may have an inkling is eric prince from blackwater. He spent a lot of time in afghanistan. He joins us tonight. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. What do you think the goal of the american presence in afghanistan is . What is the point . It should be to deny terrorists sanctuary and leave. Weve been at this for 16 years. Its americas longest war. We went there after 911, decimated the taliban in weeks. The longer we made hit the convention war, we adopted the so been at it for 16 years and spent close to a trillion dollars. Its time for a different paradigm. Youve been there i sponsored a peace conference in 1997 already. Sos been paying attention to afghanistan longer than most. You were just there. How would you compare to it 10, 15 years ago . Much less stable. In 2002, 03, 04, you could drive around in a thinskinned vehicle. Now you have to be in fully Armored Vehicle because the taliban can crank out a car bomb anywhere they want. Sound like a disaster. It is. If the president sends 4,000, 6,000 or 10,000 and we had as many as 140,000 there and it doesnt work. We have to find a way to turn it over to the afghans and let them carry on and be done. Tucker you just described what i think i heard the president say or imply repeatedly. Hes made that case again and again clear. His instincts are in that direction. How did he change that fuse on this . The president has rejected what he seems to be accepting tonight the last two years, but i think he feels political pressure and damage from the charlottesville issue and he doesnt want to fight the establishment. The establishment is baiting him into this. At 10 00 p. M. , this will be trumps war. The media has ignored him. After eight or nine years, its his. The president seems to trust generals. Most president s do. You seem to be saying they led him in the wrong direction. I think it continued a conventional approach is not working. The best the taliban has survived. They know after 16 years of war they dont leave the zone. Americans rotate in and leave. The taliban know how we move and work. Thats why theyre winning. Tucker could we achieve the goal that you stated at the outset, denying sanctuary to terrorists from the air . Not just from the air. Going back to a smaller footprint, a proven method of embedding with the afghan forces, giving them air power and governance. Thats why i was asked to give a different paradigm rationalization. As much as the pentagon wants to talk about diversity and what theyve pursued, they have not pursued diversity of thought. Tucker why is that . The president has four conventional generals as his closest advisers. Theyre coming back with a very conventional plan. Im worried if he accepts it, a year from now well be in the same situation. More americans dead, another 50 billion right now were spending more than the u. K. Defense budget just in afghanistan. Weve had a navy with four collisions a global standdown of the u. S. Navy because of a positioning problem. Theres a better way to spend 50 billion on recapitalizing the military or veteran healthcare or infrastructure in the United States. Tucker you think theres any chance we dont know the full outlines. Well find out in the hour. You think theres any chance with 4,000 american troops if that number is correct that that number could make an appreciable difference in afghan . No. The way army organizes, 600 or 700 can leave the wire. The rest are there for support. They dont leave the base. Theyre targets. Tucker the original idea is that terror Training Camps arise in places where theres a power vacuum and that we need to make sure that doesnt happen. But you have seen jihadis training in european cities and here in the United States. In their moms basement. We need to rethink that idea . Well, the sad thing is, with the metastasis of terror, they can be the individual operators, mobilized and activated by the internet and makes lots of places terror sanctuaries. The 911 attacks and the whole area is like one big gestational pit of terror. Having some kind of i dont agree with completely pulling out of afghanistan. It would be a big failed state and another isis caliphate. We cant keep doing the same thing for another how much longer . 16 years in 20 years . Weve been there too long already. Weve been there an entire military officers career. You could be two years old on 911 and entering the military right now. An Unnamed White House adviser told npr that theyre thinking in terms of the occupation of the korean peninsula. Thats been 60 years. What we get wrong, the afghans view the Foreign Military presence as an irritant. Theyll fight against the notion of foreign troops on their soil. Thats why i tried to give the president an option of localizing it, giving embedded advisers not wearing uniforms, giving them the skeletal support at the battalion level with afghan aircraft under afghan rules of engagement to make it that problem. It doesnt have to be the u. S. Militarys problem anymore. Thats why too innovative. Thanks for joining us tonight. Thanks for joining us. You bet. Tucker meanwhile, the u. S. Commission on civil rights was quick to condemn last weeks violence in charlottesville but they only condemned the white supremacists. Why did they do that . Peter joins us right now tonight. Peter, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Tucker so why would the commission if im understanding this correctly, this wasnt just thoughtless omission. This was an intentional decision not to condemn that violence. Why would they make that decision . I think its because they approve of certain set of political positions and disapprove of others. If you are perpetrating violence in furtherance of something they approve of, maybe theyll look the other way. They refused to adopt a reasonable amendment to the resolution that all of us voted on condemning the violence in charlottesville, but the resolution was directed klan, the nazis. Very appropriately so. That should have been condemned. Tucker of course. We made note of the tragic death of heather heyer. But theres a lot of reporting that shows that antifa was beating people, using clubs, beating people. Made a very reasonable proposal, if you will, that said while we support peaceful protests, there was violent protests and we condemn violence by all sides including the socall antifa group. The majority on the commission 62 voted against it. Tucker that seems like a reasonable proposal. Did they explain why they didnt vote for it . The only explanations we got were they didnt want to water down the original proposal. One of the commissions said, we dont want to necessarily condemn people that may have gotten carried away. Thats an unsatisfactory response from the u. S. Commission of civil rights. Our statute says we de we are about equal viewpoints. We dont give license to another group the beat you with impunity. You should condemn other groups for the same type of violent behavior. Tucker because civil rights need to apply universally or theyre not civil rights. Thats right. We dont condone the white nationalists. Thats not what this is about. This is about brutality against americans. A separate standard applied to such brutality because, well, theyre acting in a way of which certain people approve. The other side is acting in a way or furthering of a position that we disapprove of. That type of viewpoint, discrimination is opposite of what we say. You can easily say if a situational reverse 50 years ago, where should the United States commission on civil rights be . Tucker they can say, look, you can understand why somebody would be annoyed sitting in a lunch counter you didnt want. The point of america is, the ideal, we apply the laws universally according to citizenship. If youre an american citizen, the law treats you the same as any other american citizen. That idea seems under attack to me. Its under attack. Were engaging in identity politics to a poisonous degree. Its getting to be extremely dangerous. We expect at least the government and the media to be objective and unbiassed and when the government and the media is not objective and unbiassed, were going down a dangerous path. It can only end badly and i would hope we reverse this and seek to apply the law and seek to apply the way we condemn violence in a universal fashion and and evenhanded fashion. I agree with that. People are afraid to stand up and say what is true. Youre not. Thanks for coming on tonight. Thanks, tucker. Tucker the nfl preseason is back. That means a bunch of players are sitting down for the anthem again. Now an espn commentators wont protest. Jason whitlock is here. And the president will not be in the Kennedy Center honors is. Anything in america safe from politics in this frenzys moment . Ian cane joins us. Were waiting on the trumps afghanistan speech. Fox will be there live at 9 00 p. M. Stay tuned. Ive been a soldier for 3 years. 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Jason, i guess why people are mad at certain politicians and certain circumstances. Its legitimate. Why is the way to express that attacking the country itself . I dont understand it myself, tucker. Listen, Max Kellermann is a good friend of mine. I have a lot of respect for max. Max is complaining how come no one is supporting Colin Kaepernick . I want to understand why nfl players are not offering voices of dissent . Theres nfl players, black and white, that know if you really want to address police brutality, social injustice, inequality in this country, protesting the National Anthem is the perfect way for your message to get completely lost. If Colin Kaepernick or any of these players, if youre a starting nfl quarterback, you have a huge platform and the opportunity to on any tv, radio show you want, any newspaper, Magazine Article you want and you can legitimately voice your complaints, if you protest during the National Anthem, of course theres going to be a massive amount of people that never hear a word you say, wont understand your message at all and you cant tell me that there arent nfl players that recognize the stupidity of the style of protest Colin Kaepernick has chosen but theyre all afraid to see it because of the backlash. So again, the cowardess or the real feel is the craziness is where it comes from. Tucker theres a lot of afraid people in this country id argue so you follow this closely. How true is it that the protests affect viewership . Im not sure. Theres a lot of research on that that weve done here at fox sports that say mostly it was the election cycle or predominantly the election psych that will affected viewership. But in the protests continue, i think its going to impact viewership. Because i think its all the regular sports fan doesnt get it. Youre protesting the National Anthem. How is that the best way to get the point across about equality . Its not for the event to be hijacked by politics. Its not for the event from the National Anthem, from the beginning of the event to have this kind of contention and problem. Sports have always been about bringing people together for a fun event. Its always been about racial unity and looking past your differences to achieve some athletic goal. Kaepernick has turned this into Something Else. I dont think its effective for getting his message out and i dont think its consistent with the principles of sports and what nfl football has been about as a television event. Tucker youre right. Theres a new piece at the atlantic. It says that Silicon Valley has taken over journalism and ruining it with click bait and maximizing traffic. Espn is doing its part. Theyre fanning these feuds instead of covering sports. You think that is a fair critique . You think Silicon Valley is affecting news that is bad . No question, tucker. You and i talked about this several months ago. I was very thrilled to see the atlantic write this piece because i want the left side of the media to talk about this. Look, the media used to be obsessed with new york and new york liberal values. I think everybody understood that. Now its dominated by Silicon Valley, Northern California and San Francisco values. That is a completely different anim animal. That is a revolutionary animal, an animal that doesnt believe in this country. When you look at google, facebook, twitter, instagram, in order to really be popular and to be represented in those spaces, the Silicon Valley spaces, you have to be extreme left wing. They are trying to silence any of us that are moderate or to conservative and those voices cant even be heard over these Silicon Valley social media machines that the rest of the media is addicted to. Its had an amazing influence on the media and the Racial Division were seeing in the country. Tucker and an undercover one. Thanks for being here, jason. One of the smartest. America is a divided country. So divided the president couldnt participate in the Kennedy Center honors. Actor den cane is here to tell us how that happened and our coverage of the president s speech that begins in less than an hour. Were on it. Stay tuned. A penny has never been more valuable. Its our back to school one cent event at office depot office max. 10 pack pens, one cent. 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With the oscars, theyve done it with about everything. At this point in time, hollywood has turned so against this president , its so envogue to be against him. Kudos to President Trump and the trump family for just stepping out, taking the politics out of it for now. Im sure he will here and earful about it when the honors happen. I keep wondering, hollywood has been liberal. Music business, the same thing. Most artists are. Art requires free thinking. You cant be trapped within tight parameters and be creative. I wonder if theres a thought in hollywood about this kind of group think is having on art . Oh, i dont think they think about it. Its so interesting. Used to be youre the rebel, rebelling against the ideas and this sort of thing. Now youre true rebels are those that support the president. So if you support the president and his policies, youre such a radical and what a rebel you are. Hollywood is looked into a strong group think right now. When i get into a conversation about policies i might support of the president s, its immediately met with the most crazy vitriol. They say the president is a nazi. I said no, i dont believe hes a racist or nazi or collusion with russia. They look at me like im an alien. Tucker i used to hear actors plane that you would get less work if you didnt tow the line. But now it seems like, correct me if im wrong, if you came out for the president , could you get work in hollywood right now . Well im working still. Its interesting. I dont support every policy of the president. I dont support every policy of my own. If you like one thing and you support him, youre aligned with that. Ive been able to work because ive been established. Im sure theres forces at work that arent real happy that i would say these things. Its crazy. Im not saying anything really that is that radical and policies that i support. Yet, it can affect some peoples work. You hear i mean, im on super girl. I said some things and people on twitter were so angry that i said things that didnt line up with the group think and that they were screaming to throw me off the show. It hasnt happened. But i never anticipated that being a possibility. Tucker its amazing, especially since trump is by far the most liberal president to be elected, by far. So youd think he was in show business for so long. What is it about him that drives hollywood people into hysteria . Well, i think the president is sometimes a very inartful speaker. I think he says things off the cuff. I think that some of those things offense a lot of peoples sinceabilities. President obama was a suave, smooth speaker. Sounded great. I didnt like his policies but sounded fantastic and had a great demeanor. President trump doesnt have as president bush before him wasnt a great speaker. So they vilify were in hollywood. They expect that training. President trump gives them truth that they dont want to hear. Hes rough and gruff and on twitter that are unartful. I dont agree with some things all the time but its the policies that i like. I think thats why theyre lined up so hard against him. They really want him to fail. They really want to be against him. They dont want him to succeed. I dont understand that. If he succeeds, the country succeeds. Tucker theyre so threatened by him. You need to be a shrink to understand it. Im not. Dean cane, thanks for coming on. Good for both of us, by the way. Thank you. Tucker up next, eclipse mania swept the nation as millions headed outside to take a look at the first total Solar Eclipse in mainland america. The path of totality ran from oregon to south carolina. Almost the entire country saw 60 of the sun covered up by the moon. Even the president saw it, but in a move that is not a complete surprise, he looked at the sun without any glasses. Perhaps the most impressive thing any president has done. If you missed out, dont despair. 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She vowed to take apart his rear end. Now shes vowing further harassment. Watch this. Ben carson. He has to come before my committee. You wait. Tucker so what exactly about ben carson makes Maxine Waters so mad . Is it hud policies or Something Else . We have jumani williams here. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Tucker i dont know if you talked to ben carson. A lot of you probably dont agree with some of the things he says but he couldnt a nicer man, more gentle person. You saw him in the debates. Hard to think of anybody being mad at ben carson. And Maxine Waters is focused on him. What is that about . In a case like this for me, it was a case of dont learn who your heros are. Ben carson was a hero of mine when i was younger and i speak for a lot of young black men are disappointed to see where he is and his ideology and policy. I wrote and oped that said that this man shouldnt be the head of hud. I believe he was put there because he has some melanin in his skin. The bigger issue about trump tucker wait a second. That is an awful thing to say about somebody. Do you have any evidence for that . For me seems no other reasons for a man that was clearly unqualified, had no experience in housing at all whatsoever. When you have the words urban in it to put somebody with melanin in their skin. That was enough for me. Yes can disagree. Tucker im not disagreeing. Im challenging you. Youre attacking his qualifications. Youre calling him a quota hire. His qualifications are clear that he had none for hud. Tucker no. Jack kemp was hud secretary. He had no background in housing. He was a fine housing secretary. He was white. You wouldnt attacked him the same way. Youre attacking this man on the basis of his race. Its not fair. And he says hes not agreeing with everything that hud is supposed to do. So with that, hes wholly unqualified tucker you have to agree with everything an ansy does before he runs it . No. Tucker is there something specific . Housing policy . One he said poverty is choice. Two, hes trying to roll back the fair housing programs that were put under the previous administration. Recently he knocked down 40 buildings in illinois and put 400 people in homelessness. Hes talk about the policies of hud specifically and said he doesnt agree with them. He had no experience in this field. Hes a brilliant surgeon. Im sure hes a wonderful father. Being put where the word urban is is clear why. Tucker you dont know why. I guess i seems so unfair. Its sort of the way Clarence Thomas was treated when he went to the supreme court. Theres lots of people no. Clarence Thomas Tucker no, he was attacked because he was black by African American leaders that said Clarence Thomas was an attorney. Tucker but theres nobody hated more than Clarence Thomas because he was seen as a traitor somehow. Its an unfair stance. The Maxine Waters question was the original question. For me, where we are, we have to be honest. To me, the hud the Trump Administration particularly much of the conservative agenda, we have to ask why people who believe in neonazis and why people that believe in supremacy support those agendas and support those ideologies and those agendas. Ben carson of those that support it. Its a problem. Tucker so is ben carson a white supremacist too . No. I believe he and many others around him support the same things that supremists and nazis support. Tucker is that ben carsons fault . Maybe he believes what he believes. Why are you trying to tar him with White Supremacy . Thats fine. As long as the nazis and supremists believe them because of their policies tucker do you know what mccarthyism was . Smearing people unfairly with the beliefs of those they had nothing in common with. This is not tucker hold on. Did you know youre a vegetarian. So is adolph hitler. Are you a nazi . Its insane. The policies of the right oftentimes exclude people and keep them in oppression. We have been saying that for quite some time. Tucker really . Thats why the nazis support those views and policies. Lee at water tucker how many people were shot in chicago last weekend. 63 people were shot in chicago. Almost all of them African American. Republicans didnt do that. I wonder why nobody hold on. I want to talk about guidelines gun violence kills more people than terrorism. So people on your show talk about one thing. I would love to talk about gun violence. Tucker i wonder people picked up guns and shot other people. I understand that. What i said tucker you never here anybody mention that. Its not gun violence. Its people killing other people. People using guns to per for violence. Knives or whatever. But you dont seem to care because you want to politicize tucker they made it clear. They could say they could no longer use the n word so they have to talk about policies that hurt the black community. We see it now. Tucker i just wonder if anything that youre saying improves the lives of anyone. Great. Now what we have im being sincere let me say it. We need to be honest about what were doing so we can move forward. Tucker you need to scare the crap out of constituents so they can learn how theyre making their lives better. We have to move forward tucker you represent a poverty striken violent part of new york. When people when your constituents people believe in exclusion. What we have to do is knock that down. Tucker im not for exclusion at all in any way. Im saying its easier i know the policies tucker youre accusing me of racism all you want. The policies im talking about tucker i got it. Changing the subject again. Anybody that criticizes you is a racist. Its easy for politicians like you to say that dont ask questions im very excited that history is going to exonerate people who are talking like me and frown on people that are speaking like you. Tucker now im worried, councilman. I should be the considering the way the country is going. I get it. I get it. Thanks. President trumps speech is minutes from now. What the president is likely to say and will he sell his strategy to the country . Our experts take a crack at that question next. Phone with our allstate agent, and i know that we have accident forgiveness. So the incredibly minor accident that i had tonight four weeks without the car. Okay, yup. Good night. With accident forgiveness your rates wont go up just because of an accident. Switching to allstate is worth it. Tucker were minutes away from the president s first major Foreign Policy speech. This one on afghanistan. Hes expected to announce a new military strategy in that country that will include a surge of 4,000 american troops. Will it work and will congress and the American Public buy it . Douglas mcgregor is a retired colonel, John Davidson joins us tonight as well. So colonel, from what you know of what the president is going to announce tonight, do you think its sufficient to meet whatever goal we have in afghanistan . No. I think were going to watch donald trump transform in real time on television into barack obama. Hes going to essentially do what barack obama did several years ago, capitulate to what the generals want and what the washington establishment prefers, which is to continue the long war. This time instead of 40,000 troops, its 4,000. You can send 600,000 and would change nothing on the ground in afghanistan. So john, this doesnt sound like something that the president during the campaign would have been for. Do you sense that his view afghanistan has changed a lot in last year . I think it may have. Part of that is because of the people that hes surrounded himself since hes taken office. General mattis, m. R. Mcmaster. Really, the step to announce new troop deployments in afghanistan may be the step in the right direction. Hopefully its a first step and away from the obama administrations policy of ignoring terrorist safe havens. Thats what led to the rise of isis and led to a resurgence taliban in afghanistan. In order to reverse that, we have to get serious against afghanistan. Hopefully this is the first step and not the whole story. Colonel, why would generals that have seen war be pushing for a continuation of the longest war in American History . We call this war, but strictly speaking, its not been a war. A war is a decision. They are fought with a permanent end state in mind. Have a serious goal, a vision. We never had that in any of these openended interventions. Weve vacillated between nation building and Counter Insurgency and fighting insurgents with no defenses. These generals are doing what they have learned over the last 16 years and what has gotten them promoted. We know how that will turn out. We have a serious of failures that we can point to. This isnt going to work. Remember, pakistan is a sanctuary. Iran was a sanctuary for what happened in iraq. Were not willing to go to war. The American People have no interest to go to war with pakistan to save afghanistan. So trump should get out. He said get out when he was a candidate. Barack obama thought we should get out. Both men will have buckled, become weakkneed and gong along with getting out. If we get out, well stop protecting irans eastern flank and rushs western flank. Pakistan is building jihadists to go to russia and attack iran. We just need to get out of the way. They need to engage. Its their region. We have no interest whatsoever to stay there in perpetuity and try to fix something that cant be fixed. John, we spoke to eric prince earlier in the hour that spent a lot of time in afghanistan. Had a lot of employees there. Its his view that this war long, unsuccessful is being pinned on trump by the washington establishment. They say you take responsibility for it. Its your war now. What do you make of it . It is his war now. Hes president. But i think the worst thing he could do is to continue the policies of the obama administration. I think some Historical Context is in order here, too. The reality is, obama inherited a pacified iraq in 2009. The surge put us in control. We threw that away and obama did the same in afghanistan by withdrawing troops prematurely in 2014. We need to go back and rediscover the less son of 911 that the Bush Administration adopted which is you cannot allow terrorist safe havens to persist overseas. They become threats here at home. At the risk of sounding like a neoconservatism, that means supporting the troops in afghanistan, helping them to stand up and take control of the territory in afghanistan piecemeal if need be and thats what we did in iraq. Tucker thanks, john. Thanks, colonel. Thats about it for us tonight. Fox will be covering the president s speech. Pick up our special coverage on fox news right now. See you tomorrow. Senior u. S. Officials tell us that the president who has had competing voices on this throughout the course of the conversations is going to call for an increase of at least 4,000 troops to afghanistan. With the focus on pressuring countries in the region, most notably pakistan, to step up. Candidate trump often called the war in afghanistan a total disaster, a waste of time and resources. Now. Trump with no easy answers is investing more after 16 plus years on the ground. So joining us now for what we can expect to hear, general jack keane and jillian turner, former National Security council staffer under president s george its the member of the 4,000 number and the fact President Trump said time and time again he wanted us out of afghanistan. Are you surprised by the move . Im not surprised because he has to convince the American People this is clearly in u. S. Vital interest. Thats the driving force behind this. His predecessors frankly never committed themselves politically and morally to have a successful strategy. Thats the second big thing we need to get from the president tonight. Not just why but what does a regional strategy look like. What does a strategy in afghanistan look like that has some measurement of success. Hes got to lay that out and has to be convincing. 8400 u. S. Troops currently on the ground in afghanistan, 714 billion spent, 2,258 total deaths, 227,000 total wounded. And today more than 11 of that country in taliban or insurgent control. Those are not good numbers. And ive had a feeling of deja vu as if its 2009 all over again with president obama faced much the same decision as President Trump today or was in front of him over the last couple weeks. Think the most important thing about the speech it will be specific to afghanistan and how President Trump sees it to the region and in the world. Well get the President Trump doctrine. What do you think the difference is . Were waiting to hear the speech but knowing what we know about it is it the pressure component on pakistan. Its not the number obviously. Its not the numbers but what is different today is not to be master of the obvious but were eight years further into this war in a nation that two president s now have ran on the grounds on a Campaign Platform issue of drawing down. No one so far has really been able to do that. If President Trump wants to be the one to do that at the end of four or eight years hell make the first move tonight. The fight against islamic extremist which this began in gun has taken the shape in recent days in barcelona and brussels. I think many see the fight has changed in terms of what affects us at home. Were in a change with radical islam. This area were dealing with onefifth of all the terrorist organizations in the world operate here in afghanistan and pakistan. And pakistan has nuclear weapons. Not just Large Nuclear weapons but fact tactical artillery weapons. Theres pause for a reset at the top of the hour. This is a fox news alert. Live coverage of President Trumps address to the nation. His first prime time address in which the president will announce his administrations new afghanistan policy. Delivering the speech in front of u. S. Service members up the road at fort myer, virginia. Im brett behr. Im martha mccallum. The president is expect to ask india and pakistan t