Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Story With Martha MacCallum 20190514

And im not just talking about the fbi, necessarily. But intelligence agencies, more broadly. Its even worse than what you described. So whoever is investigating, this tell them for look for emails between brennan and comey in december of 2016. Martha we will talk to him about that. Now, George Papadopoulos says that it did not end with the campaign. He says it continued against him on into the whole scope of the investigation. He says that the mueller team, he believes, planted 10,000 in his lap and that they were trying to snare him in and he says it probably wasnt just him. The mueller team is going around entrapping Campaign Associates and Trump Associates the way they did to me, im sure it wasnt just me they did it too and its going to open up a massive can of worms. Martha were going to ask him about that in just moments. George papadopoulos is on his way but we begin tonight with Trey Gowdy Former House Oversight Committee chairman and now a fox news contributor, trey, always good to see you. Thank you for being here tonight. I want to get actually first to the sound bite that we just played. You say that whoever is looking into this in this case its mr. Durham and i want to get your thoughts on that in a minute. You say they should definitely look at the brethren nan comey fbi emails in summer of 2016 . December of 2016. Martha december of 2016, thank you. Over the weekend senator graham really really exercised over the lack of corroboration of this dossier that was used in court filings. So the question then becomes was it unverified . Uncorroborated when you used it . And then when did you begin to corroborate it and what im telling mr. Durham or whoever is going to look into this, i think you will see late in 2016, well after it had been used, it was still unverified and the people responsible for it were referring to it as unverified and one o one or the other demanded that it be included in the intelligence assessment which then leaked which then prompted the discussion you and i are having now publicly. Martha there is a statement that just came out this evening that Catherine Herridge has been reporting. I think we have that and we can put on the screen. The gist of it is that brennan, john brennan is pushing back on all of this today. So clearly he knows there is now another investigation into it. He heard, of course, attorney general barr say that im not just interested in the fbi. Im also interested in the other agencies which, of course, would point offensively at john brennan who was the head of the cia at the time. The statement tonight or the finding in the reporting of Catherine Herridge tonight says that john brennan says that he and James Clapper did not want to include the dossier. That it was james comey who insisted on including the dossier as they were doing the investigation and also in the Intelligence Report that was presented to President Trump. What do you think about that, trey . I think that its one more place for mr. Durham to start. Thats a pretty easy thing to sort out, who insisted that the dossier or the unverified material from chris steele be included. But, martha, sometimes when you have two people i can tell from you having been in the courtroom, sometimes when people are blaming each other they are both right. Its both of them. And i think its interesting brennan and comey right now, the only thing they seem to share is a hatred for donald trump. Its going to be interesting if they begin to turn on one another. Ive seen the document. Im not going to describe it any more than that, comey got a better argument than brennan based on what i have seen. Martha thats interesting. Comey brennan was talking about in this afternoon on another cable channel. He is very defensive, obviously for any further investigation here. And heres what he said about what they were doing, what they were looking into. I think they are just trying to, you know, demonstrate that there was, you know, problems with what the Obama Administration did as far as as to pursue this investigation. As you point out, it went through a rigorous due process within the department of justice and the fbi. It was approved by the fisa court. It went through all of those steps. Martha you know, the other thing that they were emphatic about in that interview was that the fisa court has an extremely high bar. They say there is no way they would have approved any wiretap, any surveillance any surveillance of carter page if they didnt have that whole thing down cold. They say they dont just approve these things willynilly. We have heard differently that the bar is quite low for approving them. What do you say . Well, the judges are not investigators. They are only as good as the information presented to them which is why you make the applicant swear out. You swear out an application. And when the fbi is telling you that this information has been verified, and when they are telling you its been investigated and it has been corroborated, the judge has to rely on that. They dont get to go conduct their own separate investigations, which is why its really important to ask the fbi agents and comey if you verify this information before its use, which we know you did not, but if your position is you did, tell us how. I have seen the spreadsheet, martha. I have seen each factual assertion listed in that dossier and then i have seen the fbis verification. When you are citing newspaper articles corroboration factual association you have made. You dont need an fbi agent to do a Google Search which blumenthal is part of your corroboration and you are the worlds leading Law Enforcement agency you have a problem. Can you blame it on the fisa court if you want. To say i hope brennan is smart enough to know judges dont investigate, they have to rely on the honest word of the people presenting it to them and if that honest word is missing, then the judge is going to make the wrong decision. Martha all right. There is another report tonight coming in from the New York Times, which suggests, you know, citing sources that are close to mr. Durham or the department of justice, or both, that this is just a review. That he is just going to look over the Mueller Report and is he going to figure out whether or not there needs to be an investigation. Now, my understanding and i want to hear what you think about this. Is that the reason that the doj wanted to have a u. S. Attorney look into this is because they actually have prosecutorial power. They might be able to actually get to the bottom of this if there is indeed some sort of criminal behavior. Thats way off at this point. The other difference is unlike an inspector general, at an agency, they can look at people who used to work there. Not just people who work there. Is that accurate . Yes, maam. You put your finger im a big Michael Horowitz fan. But you put your finger on the reason many of us called for a Second Special counsel a year ago. Horowitz doesnt have access to the grand jury. He doesnt have access to former employees. He is a wonderful investigator. But he is only as good as the tools he is given. Durham has access to a grand jury and he has access to search warrants and he has access to subpoenas and he has got access to any witness he wants to talk to. So, thats your anumber one investigation. But, you know, horowitz is the one that found the strzokpage text. Horowitz is the one who dinged james comey for that press conference. The more the merrier. Its been two years now. I think the country would like to know from someone they can trust what was the factual predicate not for the russia investigation but for the intermelding of the russia investigation with the Trump Campaign. Give us the factual predicate and well decide whether or not it was sufficient or not. Martha trey, thank you very much. Trey gowdy, good to see you tonight. You too. Martha also with us is George Papadopoulos trump advisor and author of deep state target how i got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to bring down President Trump. Thank you very much for being here tonight, george. Good to have you with us. Thanks for having me, martha. Thank you. Martha i want to dig in a little bit to the story that you talked to Maria Bartiromo earlier about today. I want to play this for you. This is john brennan reacting to the news that now there is a new investigation by a u. S. Attorney in connecticut, mr. Durham. Listen to this. The cia spy . Yes. Do we spy against foreign adversaries . Yes. Do we spy against domestic individuals . No, we do not. We work very closely with the fbi. Martha whats your reaction when you hear that george . Well, i think the operation that was targeted against me in london by professor Stephon Halper and this azra tucker wa azra turk wa operation. Probing me the same exact day these figures were paying me and spying on me and recording my conversation. When i hear john brennan say this, i believe, yeah. Usually the cia doesnt spy domestically and thats why they brought me to london to meet Stephon Halper and informants while the british were also involved in it. So i have to highly disagree with john brennan and i think the cia is up to their neck in this. Martha really . Its fascinating. I look at you and i think about all of the interviews that we have done over the course of this. And how much skepticism, so many people placed on your story. But, now, you haveout fact that they are still looking into it and the fact that the attorney general is saying not just the fbi but other agencies. You know that must be encouraging to you as someone who has been saying all along that you believe there is cia involvement here. Well, you know what . I liked what congressman gowdy stated about the prosecutorial you recall durham. I think barr found his bulldog. Mueller had his bulldog. Wiseman i think barr found his bulldog in durham. You will see people scrutinized if not indicted reaching out to the cia. Most of my story if not the overwhelming majority of my entire story and the spying and the various entrapment operations targeted against me and likely others were all based abroad. I was in london. Most of them in london. Some in israel and some in cypress. My story really had nothing to do with washington or new york so, of course, when these intel agencies spying on me and dirty me up abroad, the fbi doesnt have jurisdiction abroad. The cia does. Its going to be very fascinating to see how durham and who ar horowitz and hoover what they find and what spying was done on us. I mentioned in interview i gave immediately upon joining the Trump Campaign i was presented with foreign ministers, deputy prime ministers, energy ministers, state Department Officials so, of course, there was some sort of eye on me upon joining the Trump Campaign immediately. Who put that eye on me . Im pretty sure it was the cia, not the fbi. Martha very interesting. I only have a minute left. Just a short version. You believe that andrew weissman, who was one of the 19 attorneys who was working on the Mueller Report, you believe he set you up with, you know, somebody dumping 10,000 in your lap in cypress, i believe or, no, it was in greece, right . Can you give us the thumbnail version of what you believe happened to you . Absolutely. I had a random individual reach out to me to get into some sort of political consulting. He flies me to israel. And he drops 10,000 in my lap. I think there was something incredibly suspicious about it because i went to israel thinking im going to be doing something and then guy there and i find out that it was nothing what i agreed to do. I fly then the next day to see you press. At the same exact day when wiseman is in touch with authorities about some sort of Money Laundering case that he is trying to put together. Then, after that, i fly to greece. I have dog sniffing for money. I leave the money for n. Greece. Im arrested in a savage like manner in dulles with agents rummaging through my bag for money. Clearly this was some sort of sting operation. By the time it happened, the special counsel was appointed. And this really smells of a wiseman entrapment operation and, you know, i have the money still. My lawyers are keeping it safe in athens. And i really want durham, horowitz, barr, whoever is responsible to examine these builds. Martha like something out of a spy novel. You stated your suspicion against him. Its just a suspicion at this point that there was some involvement on weissmans part and we will see where the story goes as it moves forward. George papadopoulos, thank you, george. Good to see you tonight. Thank you very much, martha. You too, thank you. Martha coming up next, the 2020 candidates seeking a bit of a media doover, trying to win back some of the momentum that has been gobbled up by joe biden. And they are doing it in some fascinating ways. Thats coming up next. Our Political Panel on that. Also lara trump from the Trump Campaign weighs in from her side of the story. Live in new york. I got buttigieg, i got beto. Beto, beto is falling fast. What the hell happened . 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They are all hoping to get her endorsement. They have been bling for it and others coming out and admitting they are not actually resonating with the voters and they want to change that. Buttigieg which emphasizes the green new deal. Nut context of saying lets get rid of all the bureaucracies. Not the Insurance Companies . No. Not going to give thoughts and prayers which to me is just [bleep]. Martha here now howie kurtz Fox News Media analyst. Katie pavlich fox news contributor. Richard goodstein is out there somewhere. We are fixing his audio. Hopefully he will be able to join us. Can he hear me. Richard goodstein is also with us. Howie, i want to go to you first. Its interesting to see cory booker throwing out the curse words there and Kamala Harris trying to reset the whole youre going to have to get rid of all of your private Health Insurance which clearly was a not a good point for her. Her poll numbers went down after that. What do you make of you who they are using the media to try to restart . Unlike corey i will keep it clean. Martha its cable, go ahead and let it rip. Relaunch and reset is an admission to stuck in single digital land hard to get the tomed take a second look they are being crushed in the early polls by joe biden who the media said would drop like a rock. Beto launched like on a hot air balloon on media hype quickly fell to earth. Is it wasnt springsteen. Didnt have much to say that was interesting about policy and also he made the notsobrilliant decision to stay off tv and meet with small groups of voters. Can you do that in a texas race. You cannot do that in a president ial. Martha interesting. Biden is having to do the exact opposite. He has name recot is he going to do the small group thing in New Hampshire. Here is beto orourke today facing the ladies on the view. Watch. Would you say those are mistakes being on the cover of vanity fair . Looks elitist . Yeah. Yeah. Did it reinforces that perception of privilege and headline that said i was born to be in this. No one is born to be president of the United States of america. Least of all me. Martha richard is he like im sorry, im sorry, im sorry. Im sorry to my wife. Im sorry i was on the cover of the magazine. What do you think about all of that . Look, its a rookie mistake for him to be kind of falling all over himself honestly the fact that he even went to the campaign in the first place after being a house member a few terms and losing a senate race. I do want to say one thing if you dont mind. There was this narrative that the democrats were being pulled way left and look at everybody who is now either at the top of the polls or gotten in recently, biden, bennett, bullock, buttigieg, they are frankly moving towards the center as Kamala Harris and now beto are basically trying to pull themselves back to the center as well. Because its a recognition that most democratic primary voters are not on twitter and they tend to be, frankly, more moderate and less liberal. So i do think thats something thats an interesting thing thats come out of all of this. Martha i think you are absolutely right about all of that richard. I think, you know, you look at everybody is kind of pulling towards biden now, looking at him and whatever he is doing seems to be working and then you have Pete Buttigieg slow jamming last night with jimmy fallon which worked with president obama. I want to talk about you and the needs of every day americans. Oh, yeah. [laughter] Pete Buttigieg wants to satisfy all your needs. Martha katie, what do you think about all these attempts to get back on track . I think it depends. Look, the reason why joe biden waited so long because he wanted to be the last one in the race for a reason. All the candidates declared very early on ran the risk of fizzling out and not getting all the attention early on in the race. Early. The Pete Buttigieg appearance worked well for him, it was in the vein of his same authenticity of who he has portrayed. The people of people like Kamala Harris or Kirsten Gillibrand or Elizabeth Warren or even cory booker trying to reintroduce themselves to the media doing it in a very fake inauthentic way that voters can see right through. In an age of leftist populism and right wing populism voters dont want to see a politician doing what they think they want to hear they want authenticity and spoken to like they mean it. Joe biden has been able to do it. He still has some risks on the campaign trail for sure. We have a long way to go. Right now he is coming off as the most authentic politician in that race. Martha we have a really long way to go. Interesting to hearsay he wanted to be the last one in the race. Its remarkable because President Trump got n june, i believe, when he went down that escalator. And he is not ignoring all of these efforts of these candidates. Lets listen to what he had to say in louisiana today. Watch this. I got beto is falling fast. What the hell happened . He is trying to restart his campaign. That generally doesnt work out too well. I dont know what the hell happened to biden . What happened to him . Im looking and i said that doesnt look like the guy i knew. Bernie, you know bernie is crazy. [laughter] but bernie has a lot more energy than biden so you never know. Martha there is the president sort of going after everybody and giving them their typical nicknames which he likes to do which we have seen him do a lot, howie. What about Bernie Sanders . He seems to be scrambling a little bit. Bernie sanders a lot of pundits thought that he was going to be a super charged force in this race and a lot of his support went to biden once joe got in. So that is a problem for him. The problem for all these candidates in the trump era incapsulated by the president taking these little jabs and mocking those who are you know, at least in the top of the race is that you not only have to go on tv and a lot harder when you are running against 22 people, but you have to have that trumpian talent to drive a media message to make people talk about what you said so other candidates have to reacted to you. People like cory booker allies saying is he not getting fair coverage and maybe its racial thats part of a candidates job to make news and to drive the agenda and thats something where they not only have to compete with each other but they have got to compete with the president. If i can make a quick point, martha. Martha go ahead. What democrats are looking for is the antitrump. The swing voters, the suburban women who went for trump in 2016 and abandoned the republicans in 2018, where they just kind of had it with trumps act. We just dont know right now his poll numbers with the economy doing as well is as 42 , 44 . Thats not a great place to be where the economy doing as well as it is. You need to call the workers in wisconsin and pennsylvania and michigan to come back to the democratic party. Right now joe biden is the only one interested in doing that. Martha thanks, guys, get response from the Trump Campaign right now. What do they have to say about all of this . Senior Campaign Advisor lara trump. Good to see you. Thank you. Martha thank you for being here. First of all, the buzz is that your campaign is concerned about joe biden. His numbers are pretty strong. And i think we have one poll that comes from one of our competitors here that shows him at 51 vs. Trump 45 . And it shows the president also down against kamala sandersBernie Sanders, excuse me and a little bit behind Kamala Harris as well. I continue to say this over and over again. The reality is this president promised people a lot of things in 2016. He has delivered on them. Have you someone like joe biden who had eight years under obamas presidency to make big changes in this country and we didnt see that happen. In fact, our economy got worse. We lost jobs and a lot of manufacturing jobs that he and obama told us were never coming back especially to his home state of pennsylvania. Whomever the candidate might be, we are not worried about it. We dont really and we have never taken polls very seriously, martha, because we saw in 2016 they were never really accurate. Martha these are obviously national polls, they are not typically accurate over the here is one just to look back at april of 2016. Which shows President Trump now President Trump andnton was. So that gives you a little sense of you who they can be. Stretch lets talk about women. That was brought up as well. And the concern about suburban women voters. Interesting piece today in politico talked about the fact that half of the donors are women. Women last time it was around a quarter. 2016 we had about a quarter of the donations came from women. Right now half of the donations come from women. We have twice as many women donating to the Trump Campaign as the leading female democrat candidate Kamala Harris. When you look across that spectrum it tells you a lot and women may not tell a polster that they support donald trump but they are happy to donate to our campaign. And i think you have to take those numbers very, very seriously. Martha well, it is interesting. People do put their money where their mouth is. I actually think the president s Approval Rating is 46 . Martha yeah. This is thats womens approval. They had it at 38 and 61 unfavorable in terms of the women. Can we put that one up . This is cnn poll. You may have a number thats better. Thats there. Look at it. In terms of whats going on with how you are going to change the minds out there that need to be c do you approach those suburban voters . I know you say you feel like they are already in your camp . Whats the strategy . I just think its about reminding people come november of 2020 about how their life has improved under this presidency and look at your life in 2016 vs. 2020. Are things better for you . Do you have a higher paying job . Has your 401 k gone up . Do you feel like there are better opportunities for your kids out there . Do you feel safer as a country . Our job as a campaign to remind people to collect it out and check in with yourself and your life. I think there are some people that, listen, may not love the president s tweets all out time but life has gotten better for them and i think they are going to go vote for him in 2020. Martha i want to get your reaction to this story that omarosa join against. Another woman launched a lawsuit saying the women on the team were paid about 18 less than the men and omarosa wants a piece of that action. Has anything been done to change that metric on this campaign . I mean, i think if you look across the board, i think women are paid pretty equally to men on the campaign. I mean, we were a pretty small group at this point. But, certainly, we like everything to be equal. Omarosa i would take everything with a grain of salt. She is trying to get herself back out there. Martha she used to be a very good friend. Funny how that changes. Its sad. Unfortunately thats the world we live in these days. Martha what about the fact that done jr. Has ahe will sit down with the senate intel committee. Unfortunately complied with everything. Don has testified over 30 hours now. Is he going back because he wants to do the right thing answered wants everyone to know he is doing the right thing. Sad no matter what any of us do they will never leave any of us alone. There will never be any off limits like in the past or going over the line when it comes to our family. Listen he has always told the truth. He goal back in and tell the truth again. I am sure we will hear from him and no big news we have all heard we didnt include with russia. The president didnt include coe with russia. Martha Alabama Senate set to vote on a bill that would effectively ban abortions in that state. Shannon bream up next with where this could go in terms of the Supreme Court. So ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. My dbut now, i take used tometamucil every day. Sh it traps and removes the waste that weighs me down, so i feel lighter. Try metamucil, and begin to feel what lighter feels like. Termites, were on the move. 24 7. Roger. Hey rick, all good . Oh yeah, were good. Were good. 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Now, if this passes, it will head to the governors desk and then likely face a legal battle in the courts as states nationwide attempt to exert more power on both sides of the abortion debate setting up a possible collision course that leads directly to the Supreme Court. Potentially. Shannon bream anchor of fox news at night and author of the new book finding the bright side has been hanging out with us in new york which is very fun for us. Its great to have you here. In person its nice to be here. Martha finding the bright side is available today and its a wonderful book and can you also listen to the podcast that we did. We did together. Martha we talked a lot about that as well. You are our premier Supreme Court legal mind. I want to get your thoughts on this alabama case and a lot of stories this morning about the fact that this is the beginning. That there is a nationwide push that could end up in a big decision at the Supreme Court. Yeah. Its interesting because so much activity has happened at the state level over the last couple of years on this both for and against. More regulation, less regulation of abortion. And many of the states have been accused of trying havetohave a trojan horse put together a bill serve this up to the Supreme Court. A number of lawmakers in alabama have been very open though that they want this to be a direct challenge to roe and they want to send it up as the most restrictive abortion law in the country. So they havent many of them made a secret of the fact that thats actually for many of them this is about. Martha they went so far with it essentially because they want it to be challenged. And then they are hoping that that will move up. In north dakota there was a fetal heart beat bill that was struck down and some people thought that might lead to the Supreme Court. And then have you had a lot of other decisions percolating around the country as you say with regard to planned parenthood and whether or not they needed to whether they could get federal funding. You know, i guess all of this anything at the heels is due to the fact that we now have a more conservative Supreme Court, right . And you know that so much of the questioning of justices gorsuch and kavanaugh the two new ones were a lot about roe v. Wade. Do you think its settled precedent. Some of the other people on the short list for the Supreme Court there were a lot of questions about exactly how they felt. What have they said about roe v. Wade . What have they written . Have they made any decisions or opinions on issue because it is the premier issue that comes up as a litmus test for a lot of people whether or not they are going to support these nominees so a lot of attention have been paid to their records on that. Martha you have to wonder about Brett Kavanaugh who relied on susan collins. He essentially promised her this was precedent upon precedent. She is up for election in maine. She is up for a pretty tough election in maine. Would you surmise that he is hoping that this does not come his way before 2020 . I dont think most of the justices are anxious to take on a case like this and it does take four votes secret conference vote we dont know how many. To get a case actually on the docket for the Supreme Court takes four of them saying yes. So they have to feel like the time is right. This case is right. Teed up perfectly for all the legal contours we have to examine. So to convince four of them. That takes some doing because they get thousands of appeals every year. They wont take one of these cases up unless they think the time has come there is a split in the lower courts, that kind of thing. Martha fascinating. Finding the bright side. Thank you, shannon. Thank you so much. 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Martha some are calling it the most severe violation of Academic Freedom in decades a law professor at Harvard University Ronald Sullivan jr. Firedf criticism on campus because he deigned to be on the defense team of controversial mogul Harvey Weinstein who is set to stand trial on rape and Sexual Assault coming up. Now, tonight, newsroom. Hi, trace. Hi, martha. Ronald sullivan is the very same harvard law professor who has a long history freeing people wrongly convicted of crimes. When sullivan agreed to joins defense team of Harvey Weinstein, he sent a lengthy email to harvard undergrad defending the idea of representing those who are unpopular, vile or undesirable quoting here to the degree we deny unpopular defendants basic Due Process Rights, we cease to be the country we imagine ourselves to be. In fact, most of the Due Process Rights we hold dearest derive from lawyers who represented unpopular defendants. Still, the undergrads pushed back, some claiming they felt unsafe around a lawyer represent ago Sexual Assault suspect. Other students said sullivans decision to defend weinstein disqualifies him from serving in a role of support and mentorship. Sullivan was also verbally abused and in the residence where he lives with his family was vandalized. Sullivan and his wife law lecturer Stephanie Robinson were also harvards first africanamerican faculty dean leading the winthrop house hall. Currently conducted a climate review asking students if they found winthrop house to be sexist, nonsexist, hostile or friendly . Then on saturday sullivan and his wife were fired as faculty deans with the university saying that, quote students and staff have continued to communicate concerns about the climate in winthrop house. But the firing came a day after Ronald Sullivan had already withdrawn from weinsteins defense team saying the case conflicted with his teaching responsibilities. 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We would send a hell of a lot more troops than that but i think its just where was that story, in the New York Times . Well the New York Times is fake news. Martha as of this afternoon at the white house, joining me now fox news senior strategic analyst general jack keane. General, good to see you as always. Thanks for being here tonight. Good to see you, martha. Martha what do you think about the 120,000 troops story. Dorgs of what happens. Providing options of providing for a potential crisis like this. The options are provided by general mackenzie. They may present them from the pentagon but thats where they come from. Let me give you an example. Iran can take some action, clearly a drone attack. A missile attack. Mining the harbor. We will run options and risks associated with every one of those or multiple things at the same time. And possibly one of those options were, they were making comprehensive attacks, multiple locations with different means then we would have to have a base force thats larger than what we have here. So thats an option. It doesnt mean that thats the option we are going to execute. And thats why the article, i think, is a distortion. You got the reaction from the president he doesnt even know what they are talking about. Martha you know, so the other line of thinking is that john bolton and saudi arabia and israel very much want war with iran and that thats what they are pushing for. Even a suggestion that, you know, that these that the explosions in the Saudi Arabia Oil tankers might have been done to provoke that what do you say to that . Well, i think thats also a distortion. I think thats fairly unfair to ambassador bolton the National Security advisor. There is no doubt that when john was out of government he had very strong and some would describe it hawkish views in the execution of foreign policy. Thats true. But, he is working for President Trump. And President Trump does not share those views. President trump drives National Security and foreign policy. And john would be the first one to tell you that so the thought that because john bolton is there somehow we are closer to a war that is nonsense. President trump is measured in dealing with iran. What he really wants to do is negotiate with them and create a better deal than the jcpua or the nuclear deal we had. He said it many times. A lot what were doing is push back on iranians, get their attention, change their behavior. We are not looking for regime change and certainly not looking for a war. Martha before i let you go, there is some thinking that the former secretary of state john kerry at one point encouraged them to just hang in there he said President Trump wont be in office in the next term. Weight it ouwait it out and wet you jcpua back. Thats true and outrageous behavior and really quite unprecedented. Its one thing to talk to a Foreign Government another thing to provided a vice to a government which a stated adversary of the United States and been killing americans since the early 1980s. That behavior is despicable. Martha senator marco rubio talked about logan act investigation into what john kerry may have said to the leadership in iran. So well see if that goes anywhere. General, thank you very much. Good to see you tonight, sir. Good seeing you, martha. Martha more on the story next. And struggle. We actually. Seek it out. Other species do difficult things because they have to. We do difficult things. Because we like to. We think its. Fun. 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She was one and a million. Not only a brilliant comedian, but a loving human being. He was 85 years old. Tucker good evening, welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. Beto orourke has changed, he is not not though boyish carefree road trip with the wheat hook up that you might remember from just a few months ago. That to beto is gone, maybe forever. At the new beto is far more serious. Even angry. What is the new beto mad about . Climate change, obviously. Border walls, and bigotry and uptight old people that do not understand that skateboarding is not a crime. Also that buzz kill Pete Buttigieg who stole his spot in the president ial ranking, that