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Way. Martha Kamala Harris agrees hate crimes on the rise just last year fbi released statistics that revealed a 17 increase in the number of hate crimes in america. Smollett is hardly the only hoax perpetrated on the public in the name of gaming the ora of what is known as victim hood sheik or convincing the trumpism bigotry. Here are just a few of the similar acts since President Trump was elected. Indiana hitler references and gay slurs spray painted on Saint Episcopal Church right after the election. Trump backers were blamed but turned tout was the ohr begannist at the church a gay man who said he was fearful about the outcome of the election and wanted others to be scared with me. In new york, 18yearold shocked the city in 2016 with a terrible story about Trump Supporters had had screamed at her on the subway and frida tried to rip of her i had juan. Two weeks later she admitted she had made the whole thing up. And in michigan, when gravitgraffiti and kkk and leavn word kept showing up over a month michigan university. Turned out it come from a former africanamerican student who had gone there of course the recent Covington High School boys who Nathan Phillips claimed were attacking four black individuals on the plaza in washington, d. C. But then the tape later revealed it was actually the opposite. Members of the black israelites were, in fact, taunting the boys. Calling them incest babies among other things. My next guest has written extensively about hate crimes statistics as they actually exist in this country. The associate editor at reason and the author of the upcoming book panic attack young radicals in the age of trump. Robby, good to have you here tonight. Thank you for having me. Good to be here. Martha situations when there are these statements thrown out there. Articles of faith that we drill down and do take a look what is actually going on in the country . Is it something to be concerned about . Is it epidemic . What have you found when it comes to hate crimes . Absolutely. If you look at the data the federal government specifically the fbi compiles relating to hate crimes you find that yes while it would appear slight increase from 2016 to 2017 actually many more Police Agencies submitted data in the latter years. So what looks like a rise could just be the fact that now we have more municipalities being counted. I went all the way back to 1996 and found actually the number of hate crimes total overall was higher than even what they counted today with all the Additional Police offices submitting data. If you look like in the long term, you see kind of fluctuations year to year, but they dont really connect to anything it happens to do with who is submitting data and how good a job they are doing. It does not support this kind of narrative that the country is getting more frightening and more horrifying for black people, gay people, et cetera. Martha what do you say to those who would look at that and listen to you tonight and say a lot of these go unreported that they hear so much antidotally and they are concerned that these tensions that they trace back to the administration that they are clearly on the rise out there . What do you say to them . I mean, certainly, this is a country of hundreds of millions of people, so, of course, there are, you know, bad things happening every day. But, antidotes are not a substitute for a more holistic view of what is actually happening of looking at the statistics. Because, unfortunately, some of these antidotes like with smollett, when you look at what actually happened, they dont stand up to scrutiny. We dont know what percentage of the total are like that. But i you know, a lot of campus incidents often not criminal hate incidents but bias incidents. Many of them are unsolved. But the ones that do get solved, you do see quite often that there is more to the story or its outright fake. Which is not to diminish anyone who was the victim of something terrible because it does happen. Martha absolutely not. One of the other things that you read when you look into these numbers on hate crimes and what people are saying about it is antisemitism is on the rise in this country. And we remember, obviously, the horrible killing at the synagogue in pittsburgh. What are your numbers tell you about that . Right, the media has been all over the statistic that there has been a 57 57 spike in antihate. I looked at the statistic. Antisemitic violence was way down since trumps election. The increase had to do with bomb threats made by a single person, a teenager who is crazy who lived in israel that he made against jewish institutions which is terrible, dont get me wrong. But, again, this is not there is no evidence there that this is some actual increase in violence and that it has something to do with our current political situation. Thats a drawing connections that the media sometimes does that are not warranted by what the actual data shows. Martha interesting piece. Robe, thank you very much. Good to have you back here tonight. My pleasure. Martha my next guest writes in u. S. A. Today Jussie Smolletts alleged plan to manufacture outrage diminishes impact of real hate crime. James robbins is a member of u. S. A. Todays board of contributors and an author to the author of erasing america, losing our future by destroying our past. James, good to have you with us tonight. First of all, your reaction to that conversation and this idea that we are being constantly told that hate crimes are epidemic and that they are rising at a quick pace in this country . Well, its an article of faith among the left that, you know, the era of trump has unleashed all of this hate. That trump voters are racist and everybody who supports the president is sort of ready to go to commit violence against minorities. Simply not true. The data dont support that if you look at not only the different municipalities that are reporting these things but also what they report. Each state defines hate crimes differently. Whats a hate crime in one place may not be in another. Its important to point out that during the clinton ear remarks in the 1990s, hate crimes were being reported at much higher rate. So how can this be Donald Trumps fault . Martha interesting. You know, i think one of the most disturbing thing is and those are isolated instances that i mentioned on the way in to the show tonight about these hoaxes. But i should also point out that where we the article that we got them from was in the New York Post there were probably 25 that were listed we only put five or six of those hoaxes into the beginning of the show. The disturbing thing that it says to me is that people know that its going to work. That they will get the attention that they want if they blame this kind of attack, which no one wants to see in this country on Trump Supporters. You know, thats discouraging at best. Right. Because the hoax teres know that they have all of these nationals ouenablers whether thn the media or politicians or bloggers, whoever they are. People in hollywood who are going to repeat these claims. They are going to expound on them. They are going to repeat the stereotypes of the trump voter or trump supporter. Then they are going to analyze them in the context of the trump era. Whats wrong with america. And a bunch of other things thats simply not only arent they true but they damage the political dialogue in our republic because they tell people that well, you know you are presumed guilty. We hear Jussie Smollett talking about the presumption of innocence. While all of the Trump Supporters are presumed guilty of racism, sexism, homophobia and so forth. Martha what does it say about this young man . Jussie smollett, obviously, you know, i mean, as we have pointed out Chicago Police have laid out a pretty persuasive case. Obviously the process has to play out from here and he will have his moment in court and that will play out. But, you know, when you look at the reason that he did this and you look at this idea that john mcwarder wrote about in the atlantic of victim hood sheik that to be successful, to have a role on a very successful tv show empire is not enough, you know, that to be admired is almost its almost aspirational in this case to be a victim. I mean, it is so backwards in terms of what we think about when we think about the way things should be in this country. Oh, definitely. Victimhood, i mean, he was looking for a way to make victimhood pay because his 100,000 an episode, you know, if its true that he was looking for a pay raise, well, that wasnt enough. 100,000 an episode is pretty good. I dont think he is going to get a lot of sympathy for this. But, you know, he is an actor. He works in a world of make believe. And so it probably seemed very reasonable to him to come up with this sort of make believe scenario with these cartoonish villains and then he plays the poor victim. Martha as you say he signed the check. He signed a personal check, yeah. As someone said last night he should have watched an episode of colombo when he was done with empire if he wanted to figure out thousand pull this thing off more effectively. James robbins, excellent piece tonight. Good to see you. Thank you. Martha so he and tom brady have six super bowl rings. Seems like they have it all, right . But now, the patriots owner, bob kraft, is said to be involved in a prostitution ring. He says that is not what happened. The police say that there is a video. So we bring in attorney mark eymark. Now, his world explodes with flavor. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday allnight protection. Can you imagine 24hours without heartburn . I but i can tell you i Liberty Mutual customized my Car Insurance so i only pay for what i need. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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Kraft inside receiving the alleged act the answer is yes. A kraft spokesperson says we categorically deny that mr. Kraft engaged in any illegal activity. President trump, krafts longtime friend said this today. What about the charges against bob kraft . He is a friend of yours. Well, its very sad. I was very surprised to see it. He has proclaimed his innocence, totally, but im very surprised to see it. Martha here now mark oeiglarsh criminal defense attorney and criminal prosecutor. Mark, good to have you here tonight. Thanks, martha. Martha the fbi is aware of the matter and continue to monitor developments. We also have their conduct policy. It is not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime. We are all held to a higher standard and must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, promotes the values of the nfl and is lawful, which i guess some people would find interesting given some of what we have seen. Your thoughts on this case because there is the nfl side of it and of course the legal side of it. Okay. So lets talk legal. Is he alleged to have gone in on two separate occasions and they claim that he received a sexual act on each occasion. They charged him with two misdemeanor counts, could get up to 60 days in jail as the highest possible penalty. Thats not going to happen. They will offer him diversification like any firsttime offender or pay a minor fine. What he is not charged with, martha. And its important to understand he is not charged with Human Trafficking. Its alleged that the girls were trafficked. But there is no allegation that he knew or should have known that they were. Martha yeah. Thats a very important point. And it was part of a sweep of a Human Trafficking investigation. And, apparently, they are, you know, really going at this hard as they should be in florida and they are looking at a lot of these different places. This one was a spa like a strip mall spa where girls. Girls were sleeping there and eating in the back door and not leaving. Never ever leaving the building, mark. So two things i wanted to point out. First ironic in the window at the very bottom it says no soliciting. The second thing i wanted to point out is that they let these girls engage in these acts for a long period of time. Again, we have 25 separate people who are arrested. Not just mr. Kraft. So, if they dont want to be performing these acts and they are being trafficked, i am questioning why they let them do these acts for a period of time to be able to arrest 25 people. Martha thats a great question. Obviously concern people are underage and people here against their will. So, during the course of this investigation, you would think they would have swept in and busted people very quickly in that situation, right . Right. You would think. So, now, what . The argument is well we needed to build up a case, what, against people like bob kraft who will literally pay in the worst Case Scenario assuming is he guilty of both charges and i dont know what the evidence is he will pay a fine like most first time offenders, big deal. The answer is you want to protect the victims. But they engage in at least 25 separate acts. You got 25 different johns and they didnt want to do that. Martha you know, there is a couple very high profile people also involved, john childs is also on the list. His reporting came out late this afternoon. He is the founder of a private equity firm, john hastens former citigroup president chief operating officer. I think a lot of people look at this list and wonder why would these people be in this place in the first place . But i guess that goes to some deeper questions that we dont have the answers to here tonight, mark, right . Well, yes. And, again, they are presumed to be innocent. And its not going to be a slam dunk, too. They have video. But you are going to need some people to testify as to what was going on. That means these gals are going to have to testify i dont know if they will. Martha mark eiglarsh, we will watch it thank you very much. Thanks, martha. Martha coming up here tonight on the story governor huckabee and news just breaking out of the white house as the president makes a major nomination moments ago when we come back. Thanks for calling unitedhealthcare, i need help getting an appointment with my podiatrist. Hows wednesday at 2 . Dog agility. Thursday at 10 . Robot cage match. The 28th at 3 . Done. With Unitedhealthcare Medicare advantage plans, its easier to get the care you need. It would do more than haul. If i built a van, it would carry my entire business. Id make it available in dozens, make that thousands of configurations. It would keep an eye on my fleet. [ beeping ] and an eye out for danger. With active brake assist. 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Martha just a short time ago President Trump announcing he will nominate Kelly Knight Kraft ambassador to the united nations, correspondent david spunt in washington with what we are learning about her and about this nomination tonight. Hi, david. Hi, martha, good evening. The president made the announcement via twitter an hour ago praising kelly knight craft ambassador to canada. Kelly has done outstanding job representing our nation and i have no doubt under her leadership our country will be represented at the highest level. Congratulations to kelly and her entire family. Now, kelly knight craft took the diplomatic post back in october 2017. She is the first woman to hold this position. Originally coming from kentucky, she served in a diplomatic role overseeing u. S. Engagement in africa under president george w. Bush. She is married to joe craft. He runs Alliance Resource partners. The Third Largest coal producer in the United States. This is a position the president has been waiting to fill for several months after former u. N. Ambassador nikki haley announced at the end of last year she was returning to private life. And knight crafts nomination comes after Heather Nauert States Department spokesperson and former fox news colleague was withdrawing her name for personal reasons just last week. Now the focus is on kelly knight craft who just wont walk into the position. She will face Senate Confirmation and the Trump Administration wants to get her up to speed and up to the u. N. As soon as possible no. Word yet on her rice placement as ambassador to canada just yet. Martha david, thank you. Sure. Let us reaffirm a fundamental truth all children born and unborn are made in the holy image of god. Martha thats from the state of the union. Today President Trump announcing a new rule that will take millions of dollars away from planned parenthood. You can no longer take federal funds if you are counseling includes any information on where or how to get an abortion. Opponents call it a gag rule. And supporters are cheering the president on. Here now former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee also a fox news contributor. Governor, good to have you with us tonight. You know, obviously there is going to be a lot of push back on this because it really undercuts a tremendous amount of the federal funding that planned parenthood is supported by. Well, the fact is, planned parenthood shouldnt be getting a dime of any federal funding. They are the largest Abortion Provider in the United States. Its abominable what they do. They have been exposed as having sold babys body parts which is just unthinkable. The fact is the president has fulfilled yet another promise to protect human life. And i think this is a very important one. I Wish Congress would take all funding from planned parenthood because its pretty much a fraud that they provide all these services when the fact is they are pretty much an abortion machine. And make a lot of money doing it. Martha i mean, this is exactly the way to carve out money from planned parenthood because they say they refer and that business goes to them and to their bottom line ultimately. As you accurately point out. Here is what nancy pelosi said jayensly also the washington governor has also said that search states, 14, i think, are going to try to get together and push back on this legally. This outrageous assault on the healthcare of vulnerable and under served women and families would choke off access to health and preventative healthcare gravely undermining the health and strength of america. Who would fill that role, governor . Well, there are a lot of Community Health centers that can do it there is enormous numbers of hospitals. This is such a ridiculous thing for nancy pelosi to talk about this as healthcare. There is nothing healthy about killing a baby. The baby certainly doesnt come out better on this. And i think its disingenuous for any of the democrats whether its jay endsley of washington or nancy pelosi to somehow pretend that all that planned parenthood is out there to do is to provide contraceptive services and to help women have Better Health its an abortion clinic. Thats basically what they do. Most of the other things, even pap smears and mammograms they dont actually do it at planned parenthood. They simply are the middle man and they refer it to someone else. Why dont we get the middle man out of it and let people get those services. We all think thats a good thing. Let them do it directly from the people providing it, which is not planned parenthood. Martha obviously its going to ignite quite a battle. As you say the president promised he would do this and he is following through on it take a look at this poll. This is where the United States is on prolife and prochoice. Prolife 44 according to the latest fox news poll. Prochoice 46 . And it really has become it used to be that there were people of both of these persuasions on both sides. Democrats who were prolife, republicans who were prochoice. That is just not the case anymore. Neither side seems to allow anybody who is not aligning with them on this to be part of their party anymore, governor. I think its going to be a defining issue in the 2020 elections. And if people think that abortion any time any place is fine, they will vote democrat. If they think we ought to protect human life, especially in the latter stages of pregnancy, they are not going to have a choice. They will need to vote republican. It will come down to that. Martha yeah. And a very permissive new law passed in vermont just this week as well. 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Isnt it time you listened . There are nonsurgical options. Take the first step and learn more about dupuytrens at factsonhand. Com. Martha so we have free college the green new deal, medicare for all, higher taxes. These are some of the Campaign Promises that we have heard so far from the 2020 candidates for the democrat side. But Bernie Sanders, the godfather of a lot of these ideas, is now facing a head wind from the party that he is running to represent. Heres longtime democratic congressman gregory meeks. If he wants to be a democrat, he should register in the Democratic Party. And then you can talk about running and to be my representative. I want a democrat to be my representative as president of the United States. Martha joining me now Michael Knowles. Host of the Michael Knowles show on the daily wire and Austan Goolsbee economic Professor School of business and former chief economist under president obama. Jerks welcome. Great to have both of you with me tonight. Michael, let me start with you. You say despite the fact that Bernie Sanders had a pretty impressive initial haul of money, you think he is actually going nowhere in this race. How come . I think the money means nothing. People forget that ron paul raised precisely the same amount of money in precisely the same amount of time 12 years ago. Ron paul will never get his partys nomination nor will Bernie Sanders. Though actually for opposite reasons. The argument that the congressman just made that Bernie Sanders is not a democrat and, therefore, he shouldnt run as a democrat is ridiculous. Who cares how he is representing jerried. Bernie sanders has redefined the Democrat Party according to his radical ideological line. All of these democrat candidates now are spouting the sort of policy proposals that Bernie Sanders in his 2016 campaign embraced. And so the question is because of bernies success, why would anybody vote for him now . An old white man when they have so many more attractive candidates for an identity obsessed already radicalized Democrat Party . Martha that may be one of the reason that some people are pushing out videos like this of him back in 1985. Take a quick look at this and then we want to hear from austan. You know, funny, sometimes american journalists talk about how bad a country is. People are lining up to move. Thats a good thing. In other countries people dont line up for food. The rich get the food and the poor starve to death. Martha good we have bread lines. Austan, what do you make of this whole Bernie Sanders . How do you think he is going to fair in all of this . He had a stronger start than most people thought he was going to. Yes and no. Last time in 2016, he was the obvious receptacle of the antihillary segment of the party. And so, you know, it felt like it went forever. And he was kind of the hot, fresh pizza and now the pizza has been sitting there four years and i do think michael is right. Look, have you candidates from new york and candidates from california. Theres a bunch of different parts of the Democratic Party lets say that each person is representing. Heres an old white guy from vermont and. Martha you guys are really picking on the old white guy. Thats not a very popular phrase in a lot of quarters. But, you know, when you take a look at the chances, you know, of who can whether or not President Trump can be beat, michael, let me get your thoughts on this. Put up this fox news poll. Excellent 19 . Good 36 . And President Trumps favorability rating is down around 43 right now. So you have got a by on from a number of people including Donna Shalala and aoc spokesperson corbin trent who say they refuse to endorse bernie for 2020. Excited to see many progressives in the race we are not thinking at all about the next election. It raises a lot of questions about who will be ordained and just how far left that person is likely to be in the end. This is the trouble of the Bernie Sandersization of the Democrat Party is i think a generic democrat absolutely could beat President Trump in 2020. The trouble is there is no such thing as a generic democrat. And whether you have all of these individual candidates, with all of their. Martha what about joe biden . Joe biden is not yet in the race it certainly seems that he is going to run. If were talking about stale pizza as austan used the phrase i think joe biden has been stale since 1988. Martha fresh hot pizza. Old white guy a fresh hot pizza. [laughter] , austan, thank you. We will be talking about Bernie Sanders, i think, for some time to come. As we watch all of this. Thanks good to see you tonight. Alex acosta in hot water for letting billionaire epstein linked to many powerful men off easy. Steve hilton is fired up about this case and he is next. 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Martha, whats paramount in this case is that some 80 women came forward claiming that from 2001 to 2006 think were molested and abused by billionaire Jeffrey Epstein. Fbi and Court Records also show that epstein put together a network of underaged girls and forced them to perform sex acts at his palm beach mansion and he was suspected of trafficking minors from overseas to various sex parties at his homes around the world. Bottom line, he was facing a 53page indictment and a life sentence in maximum security prison and, yet, ended up serving 13 months in a private wing of the Palm Beach County jail allowed to leave six days a week to go to work. How is that possible . Well, thats where labor secretary Alexander Acosta comes in. In 2007 acosta was miamis top prosecutor and accepted a deal called a nonprosecution agreement, which allowed Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to prostitution charges in state court and get immunity from federal charges. The deal also protected epsteins accomplices meaning if ever wellknown influential people were also having sex with minors they would not be prosecuted. And to top it all off, the alleged victims had no recourse. In fact, the victims attorneys say its as if acosta allowed epstein to write up the agreement. But now a federal judge in florida says prosecutors led by acosta broke the law by signing the deal with epstein without notifying his sex abuse victims. The Labor Department is now defending acostas actions saying the decisions, quote, were approved by Department Leadership and followed departmental procedures. Three House Democrats Jackie Speier Debbie Wasserman schultz and lois frankel on calling on President Trump to demand acostas resignation and today the president said. This watch. I really dont know too much about it i know he has done a great job as labor secretary. And that seems like a long time ago, but i know he has been a fantastic labor secretary. Meantime many of Jeffrey Epsteins victims and alleged victims who felt shut out of the Legal Process have brought civil cases against him. Martha . Martha trace, thank you very much. Here now steve hilton host of the next levy lucien. There are a lot of people, steve, who do not want this story to see the light of day again. Exactly right. Very important we do those facts that trace laid out there so brilliantly. This is a really outrageous example of something that people have been complaining about the rigged system. I would ask people to think about it like this. Everyone who thinks that hillary clinton, for example, and the clintons, the way that they have been treated by the Justice System means that there is one rule for the rich and the powerful and the wellconnected and one for everyone else, its exactly the same here. For this monster. Thats what he is. Is he a pedophile monster this guy epstein. And it turns out because he has friends like Alexander Acosta in your pocket back then in florida you get away with a sentence that no one else who didnt have that wealth and those connections would do. And this is one rule for the clintons should be the same here. He should go. Martha pretty incredible. 13month sentence and he was allowed to leave six days a week. Yeah. Martha he pretty much had free reign to do what he wanted when he was supposedly incarcerated. This is a statement from mr. Acosta back in 2011 on this case. Bottom line is mr. Jeffrey epstein a billionaire served time in jail and is now a registered sex offender. He has been required to pay his victims restitution, though restitution clearly cannot compensate for the crime. There is really great reporting done by the miami herald on this story. And they spoke to a lot of these women and what their concern is that they were never told that a deal was being made. And they feel like they never got their day to tell their story before he was sentenced. Thats exactly right. And thats whats been investigated now that itself was a crime on the part of the prosecutors. They didnt follow the rules. So, in that statement from the labor day saying oh he it was all agreed by the high ups and just following procedure. First of all, its disgusting to hide behind the bureaucratic fine print in that way and not take responsibility. Secondly doesnt look as if its true. Another thing, fine, he may be doing a good job as labor secretary. I dont have any treason doubt that. Obviously a very good economy. People are getting jobs. Thats great. Honestly, if there is no accountability here. If Something Like this can happen, if a monster like this can get away with it, and people can see all the facts, and see that nothing is done about it and that Alexander Acosta sailed on without taking responsibility it will further undermine everyones competence in our entire system of governance. Martha great point and worth pointing out also that senator ben sasse is opening up an inquiry into this whole situation as well and is he committed to staying on it we will see where this goes. Fascinating case. Thank you very much. Good to see you tonight. Thank you, martha. Martha coming up, a special edition of ladies night coming up next. I switched to Liberty Mutual because they let me customize my insurance, and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything. Like my bike and my calves. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. And i dont add trup the years. S. But what i do count on. 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Those rumors have been around for a very long time with regard to him. And as we await public testimony from the woman accusing Lieutenant Governor of virginia Justin Fairfax, this whole situation is still hanging around out there and going to get a lot more heated in the days to come because she says the two women say that he sexually assaulted them. Joining me now lisa booth, Jessica Tarlov and susan li. Unbelievable which is the next shoe to drop. Jussie smollett not this that intro is he claiming that he has been wronged that due process has not been carried out for him. I just want to be on the record this process is ongoing although it is pretty easy to say its not so good for him. It is ongoing but i think for the Chicago Police to come out and speak the way that they did, i think they feel pretty confident about the evidence they have against him. Otherwise, i dont think they would come out in that strong of terms. Think how selfish he is and smart in a way to exploit the existing biases that exist within both the media and then also on the left. And what i see is both with the covington kids story and this you have so many people on the left, so many people in the media willing to believe the worst narrative about trump supporter and what i think that says about them, it says more about them and their own biases and their own intolerance and the way they viewed 63 million americans. I say shame on them. Martha i just want to bring up this woman tang because she represents so many other people in chicago who are fighting to have their cases be the focus of attention. Her son was murdered, shot in chicago, shot and killed in chicago. Where is his National Media attention, she says. Parents and families of gun violence matter, too. Can we please get the same efforts and National Media attention that smollett got with his alleged attack . Jessica, there comes a point obviously a big story, people are interested in it across the nation. Almost comes a point i dont want to say his name anymore because it is horrible that he has gotten more attention than these stories. Thats what the team behind empire felt when they cut him out of the last two episodes. Not only was this very upsetting for the cast and crew members they are part of the empire family. They were trying to do their part to remove this from the National Consciousness because it has been so difficult. I agree with lisa that the Chicago Police Department Must feel that they have an ironclad case here against him for them to come out so passionately i would say as well people should look at the interview rahm emanuel gave he was very emotional there talking about what they have done in that city to try to tamp down on gun violence and to change the narrative about chicago. And the damage that this has done because of it. And i think its also important when you look at the Chicago Police department to think about what happened with laquon mcdonald, for instance, a story that got all of our attention and what steps they have taken with body cams and hopefully bettering the situation there to be the focus rather than a celebrity story which is what this is panning out to be. Martha pathetic attempt at attentiongetting. He was making 125,000 an episode. Did he this to boost up his salary. He already made 7 million and trying to rival the actors of the show famous before they got to empire. This to me is entitlement and pretty much ruined his career because disney bought off 21st century fox. They dont want anything to do with bad press. They are very image conscious and worst career move he could have made . Martha what about this robert kraft story. Being associated with two counts of prostitution and the police say they have a video. He is also allowed due process. If you have a video pretty hard to disprove that one good thing about these cases we are seeing this week with r. Kelly also with Justin Fairfax and that getting attention and robert kraft is the fact that Law Enforcement is involved in all three of these incidents. My understanding with the fairfax case Vanessa Tyson has gone to the Suffolk County district attorney. Good news is at least they are going to a place where Law Enforcement can get involved. Martha i totally agree. All be given due process as well. Definitely surprising that news broke at outnumbered all sitting on the couch and everyone had a collective like huh . Six time super bowl champion team. 30yearold girlfriend, wife now. 39. Due process, lets hear it out. This is potentially a Human Trafficking ring. They have been watching for months. Martha these young men have been sleeping and eating at this place orchid of oasis, whatever the heck it is called. Susan this story gets uglier. Absolutely. These are women trafficked from outside of america from asia, apparently. Martha orchids of asia. It talks about entitlement and privilege once again and people of power. Men of power just probably just, i guess, given to their worse inclinations due process, i agree. But, if true, it sounds pretty awful. Human trafficking and sex trafficking specifically has been one of the biggest bipartisan issues that we have seen bothth senate and the house. I imagine the story is going to get a ton more attention that robert kraft is going to want. Martha good to cece you tonight. Email we received from carson i was watching a mom error on the screen. Computer key barred covers the screen right before the commercial break and error on the keyboard and z is where the y should be. I seem to always notice details, carson says like this. And i thought martha would want to know, too. And carson, you could not be more correct. He says i try to write to her but im not allowed to have a social media account yet. Which means you have a very smart mom, carson. I am only 12 years old. Thank you and have a good night. I have to get back to my homework now. Good catch, carson. I am a stickler for typos of any kind. So you and i are on the same wavelength. We are so happy that you corrected that and please let us know, carson, if we get anything else wrong. Thank you. We read all of your email and you are about to see we listen this is for the story tonight for a friday night. See you back here on monday. Tucker is up next but first, watch closely, carson, we fixed it i promise. Tucker good evening, welcome to a special edition of Tucker Carlson tonight. Well take on issues that are under covered by most in the media. First tonight, how the press is responding to Jussie Smolletts fake hate crime. Will also get to the bottom of the question of hate hoaxes, are they exceedingly rare as the New York Times told us this morning or are they common . First, weve got an update for you, an up to the moment update on the smollett case itself. Good evening, the update to the smollett