Reports breaking overnight that president obamas planning to address the nation this wednesday to outline his strategy for taking on the threat posed by isis. This after his meeting in wales last week where he said nine nato nations, plus australia, have pledged their support, and stand ready to assist in the fight against the Islamic State terrorist organization. The president also planning to meet with congressional leaders, this upcoming tuesday as they return. Congressman Lynn Westmoreland is a member of the house intelligence committee. He joins us right now. Congressman, good to have you on the program. Thank you for joining us. Well thank you, maria. Thanks for having me. Lets talk about the latest out of nato, and, of course, the president has said that the u. S. Will form a Core Coalition to counter isis. Whats your take on that . Well, i think the Coalition Partners are going to wait and see exactly what this president s strategy is. Wednesday when he makes the announcement. Of course, hes meeting with congressional leaders tuesday. Its just hard for, i think, people to have a lot of confidence in what this president says by just his past actions. And so it it will be interesting to see what this Core Coalition will actually do once he lays out the plan. What do you think it should look like . Of course, we saw more air strikes overnight. And the u. S. Looking to have this policy where were doing air strikes but nothing sort of comprehensive. What should it look like . Well, maria, since the snowden released some of the intelligence stuff, isis has capitalized on that, knowing how we track down. And, you know, when you are on the end of a hell fire missile, you dont get a lot of information out of that person. And one of our key strategies and what we were so successful with in iraq was being able to capture some of these guys and get the intelligence. If you look at after the Osama Bin Laden raid, the information that we got off their computers and, you know, cell phones and other things to be able to locate some of these other people. And so when youre doing something with a hell fire missile, im glad were taking them out. But at the same time, it could involve, you know, boots on the ground. I dont want to see that. I dont think i think were all warweary. But you know what, maria, youve got to do what youve got to do. Yeah, i wonder if boots on the ground is an eventuallity in all of this. Congressman, stay with us, weve got plenty more to talk with you about. First, lets take a look at nato. How have the dynamics of this organization changed, and how do those changes play out today . Fox news senior correspondent, eric shawn, on that angle. Good morning. Good morning, maria and good morning, everyone. It was founded in 1949 to face the soviet threat. Now nato finds itself again confronting an ominous and aggressive russia and a new enemy, the radical jihadist islamic terrorists of isis. From its headquarters in brussels, the now 28member North Atlantic Treaty Organization has a long history of protecting western interests. Its missions evolving after the fall of the soviet union and the end of the cold war. In 1999, the nato forces waged a successful 78 Bombing Campaign of kosovo. In 2003, nato troops were dispatched to afghanistan as part of the International Fight against the taliban after 9 11. While striking isis were told with u. S. Forces on the ground, the heavy lifting, as always, will come from us. American taxpayers pay more than twothirds or 67 of natos 9 billionplus budget, kicking in 618 billion. Thats 12 times more than britain. Ten times more than france and germany. The smallest contributor, albania, pays only 168 million. And as a percentage of our gdp, u. S. Defense spending is far higher than other nato members. 4. 4 . Compared to 2. 4 for britain, less than 2 for the next highest payer, turkey and france, and just over 1 for germany. President obama came in as a very idealistic president. In his National Security strategy, always spoke about the world we seek. But we have to deal with the world as it is. And we also have to realize that there are many forces, especially, in the islamic world and islamic region still at war with us. I think president bush had it right with regard to the global war on terrorism. I think it still is. I also think you need to have an incredible network of u. S. Capability, multiparty, multinational capability, to defeat this particular threat. Nato is building a new large headquarters near the Brussels Airport to replace its home of many decades. It is a fitting symbol for a new era and a new global let of his islamic terrorism that founders six decades ago would never have imagined. Eric shawn. More now with congressman Lynn Westmoreland joining us. Congressman, what about nato . What kind of support would you look for from our allies . The president is calling it broad support from allies and partners for ruling out committing Ground Forces from the u. S. . Youve got to remember that this president s credibility is not real high right now with anybody. The American People are our allies. And i just got back from the middle east on a trip, and you talk to people over there, and they dont really understand, you know, what this president s thinking is. I mean, here we are, arming people that were not really sure who they are. And yet weve got the kurds that are on the ground fighting, pushing back isis. And we dont want to send them the weaponry that they need. So its quite confusing to our allies and our foes combined. So i think this president sees us as part of a world community, and he has failed yet to understand that we are americans and were going to do whatever it takes to make sure that our citizens and our homeland is protected. And so i hope he will finally come to that conclusion. Is that, look, weve got to protect ourselves. And if these other people want to join, thats great. If they dont, then hes got to be a later leader and go in there and do what we need to do based on the information that we have. Particularly given isis seems to be mocking the u. S. Already beheading two american journalists. Is isis more of a threat to the u. S. , or iraq . Well, yeah. I mean, they want us. I mean, they will tell you that that is their ultimate goal. Now, sure, theyve got the caliphate set up, and, you know, theyre even talking to the egyptians now about spreading it into the sinai. And so, you know, this is something thats not going to stop. And once they get the state set up and how big a state it is that they want, theyre taking care of business. I mean, theyve got a plan. We dont. They do. And once they get that state set up, you Better Believe that america is going to b big target for them, and not only america, but our western interests all across this world is going to be a target for them. And we need to just get real and understand that this is not something that you can put in the back of your mind and its going to go away. And i think thats what really this president s whole philosophy is. Well, if i dont think about it, you know, it wont happen. He goes back to that scarlett oharaa quote in gone with the wind ill worry about it tomorrow. Congressman, thanks for your insights, we appreciate it. Thank you. Congressman Lynn Westmoreland joining us there. Isis making great use, meanwhile, of social media. Can we use that weapon against them to hunt them down. A former cia operative will join me next. 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Recruiting through social media and participating in psychological warfare. Undertaking the despicable act of beheading americans and posting the video online. But it also exposes its members, giving us a lead on who they are and where they are. Can we use this to hunt them down . Mike baker is a former cia covert operations officer. Hes founder and president of the Global Intelligence and security firm, diligence llc. Mike, good to have you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. Appreciate it. What is your sense of isis use of social media and what can it tell us in terms of giving us the information we need to find these guys . Well, this is a development thats been going on for years now. And so the idea that isis is using social media and chat rooms and, you know, other forms of technology to try to reach out, influence impressionable unemployed, easily influenced individuals, thats what al qaeda has been doing for years. And so the mindset is still the same. And they have learned over the years from what al qaeda and other groups, aqap and al shabaab and others have been doing, to reach out. And the whole purpose of this, of course, as we talked about in the past s to try to bring into the fold in particular westerners. Whether theyre americans, whether theyre brits or german or french, north africa, whatever they can do to recruit those individuals who can provide them with the ability to cross borders more easily than they can. So this is in a sense not something new, but its a more developed, because they have been learning over the years how to do this better. How optimistic are you in terms of the u. S. Or the u. S. And a coalition for the president out of the nato meetings that we will, in fact, be able to defeat isis . Well, i think if we can do a couple things. If we can separate the politics here in the u. S. In particular from the operational needs of this. And by that, what i mean is, look, we can all argue that the white house and president obama was a bit slow to the game in understanding the immediacy of the threat and in dealing with it over, you know, quite some time now. This has been building. If we can take those politics and set them aside now, we should be glad that president obama is now talking about defeating as opposed to managing the problem. So we should get on board with that, everybody in congress and then the senate should get on board with this, because its going to take a united effort. And then what we need to do is essentially what they have been talking about and what we have been talking about for some time, youve got to have the ability to draw in regional partners. Not just the french, not just canadians, the brits. We know we can count on them. But what we have really needed to make this work is the local regional players. We need the turks. The Turkish Military and government have got to get on board with this, the jordanions, the saudis. If we can commit forces to the ground. The problem is, if what we do is rely on the iraqi army for boots on the ground, rely on shiite medicalicians in iraq, rely on Syrian Opposition, which we now at this point is a muddled mess and includes alnusra and others who definitely dont have our interests at heart. If we have to rely on those people for boots on the ground, this is not going to work. So what are you expecting to hear from the president on tuesday after he meets with his congressional leaders and then on wednesday when he addresses the country . I guess one question that comes up is are the turks or the kurdish army are they ready for prime time . Can they actually handle this job in such a coalition . Well, you know, with our support, yes, they can. And our support is the tactical assistance, the intelligence support, the resources. I believe the president when he says no boots on the ground. I dont think you know, theres some red lines hes not going to cross and i actually believe when john kerry says thats a red line for the u. S. , i think theyre very serious about it. But somebody like i said, somebody other than the iraqis and Syrian Opposition have to get boots on the ground. So what i think will happen, and what well see is in part president obama trying to walk the dog back here. Obviously he regrets that gaffe about not having a strategy. And i think what he was implying, were weighing all our options. But i think the party is trying to set the table and, you know, catch up to where a lot of people have been already in saying this is a media threat, we have to deal with it, we have to be aggressive. But again, if we cant draw in those regional players and air strikes alone arent going to accomplish this. And we need to rely on the jordanians and saudis and others to actually put forces together with the peshmerga, with the kurds, and to provide that Additional Support. The problem is, at the end of the day, we can defeat isis. If we have that combined effort, if we have the will, we can do that. Thats not a problem. But the problem will be what comes in afterwards. Are we strengthening assads position. Are we strengthening alnusra in a sense in syria. Are we strengthening shiite militias not aligned with our interests . So what happens after this . Weve got to be thinking three or four steps ahead of where we are with the idea of defeating isis. Perhaps well see the beginnings of that plan and hear about it this wednesday. Mike, good to talk with you. Thanks so much. Mike baker joining us. An already shaky ceasefire in ukraine rattled overnight by shelling. Those rockets coming from russian territory. How the west should respond there as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. 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The author of the price of liberty paying for americas wars former undersecretary of state, energy and environment and former Goldman Sachs vice chairman. Now vice chairman of kissinger associates. Bob, always nice to have you on the program. Nice to be on your show again, maria. Shelling overnight interrupting what was supposed to be a ceasefire. How would you characterize whats going on right now . Very uncertain whats going on. As you point out, mariupol is a very important strategic port. And it wouldnt surprise me if this ceasefire, which most people didnt really think was going to hold anyway, has broken down a little bit. I think theres a strong interest on the part of the ukrainians in at least trying to stabilize things for the moment. But stability in this environment is very, very unlikely and there are very few people who think this is going to lead to a permanent piece or permanent stability. It will be pock marked with volatility if its implemented. And your view is putin will continue driving through. I think putin probably has gotten most of what he wanted. ProRussian Forces in control, which is very important from an economic and industrial point of view. Hes pushed back against the Ukrainian Army and other parts of eastern and southEastern Ukraine. Hes gotten a lot of what he wanted. And he would like to have a sort of frozen war if he can get a little bit more, he can. But basically, a lot of his interests have been achieved. And it will make ukraine a weaker economy and weaker political entity and will give him a lot of influence over any outcome if there is a negotiation. Which is why he wants this socalled frozen war. Just wants frozen situation around him. Frozen war discredits ukraine, because the government really cant govern effectively. Its very hard to integrate more closely with eu if youve lost about a third or quarter of your country. And it also weakens the credibility of the west. This nato summit, which was very important to support the balkins the baltics and other countries really didnt do a lot for ukraine. Because essentially he was given the signal before he wasnt going to get much and that made poroshenko move toward this settlement or tentative settlement, because he really couldnt get a lot more Strategic Support from the west. You are just back from kazakhstan. You had meetings with a number of leaders in europe. What is the mentality on the ground from european leaders to all of this . I think a lot of european leaders, including the former president of poland who was there, who really know the area well, they all believe, first of all, that russia has putin has imperial ambitions. Not to reconstitute the old soviet union, but to push out the power and the influence of russia to other parts of the region. And, ukraine, of course is, is the primary candidate for that. Sanctions have an adverse effect on the russian economy. But the average russian likes a strong leader, likes a strong russia. And he is not going to putin is not going to give in on these issues, just because the economy is adversely affected and will be for the foreseeable future. The only way we can really affect the economy is if oil prices go down. Thats half his budget. That would affect his ability to give all sorts of benefits to the russian people. But oil prices have gone down, but not really enough to adversely effect him in a fundamental way. So why do you think that is . They have been largely stable, despite whats happening not only in russia and ukraine but also in the mid east. Yes. For the most part whats going on in the middle east has not affected oil. The large amounts of iraqi oil are in the south. Theyre not badly affected by whats going on. Libya can be a problem. If this libyan deterioration continues, some of that libyan oil might not get on to the market. So i think thats one part of the situation. Oil prices havent gone down. And i do think havent gone up. And the thing thats very important is for the u. S. And the eu to get together and have an Energy Summit and figure out how we can both produce more energy in europe in the u. S. And also cooperate to a greater gre, as we did after the 73, 74 middle eastern war where there was a lot of solidarity. We cant have russia think that europe is vulnerable to energy pressure, and enable him to use that to divide the u. S. From western europe. For sure. I dont know why we havent been doing that already, by the way. I mean, this seems obvious me. Are there any surprises that you would expect as it relates to russia, ukraine from the president s speech were expecting wednesday . The president is going to hopefully lay out a strategy against isis on wednesday. But what about the russia story . Do you think that comes up as well on wednesday . I think it almost has to for a number of reasons. First of all, youve got to show credibility in dealing with russia in ukraine. And i think you need to do in addition to what were talking about and what sort of foreshadowed by the nato summit, there will be some Additional Support for ukraine. That will be helpful. A lot of Additional Support, incredible support for countries in nato that feel that theyre vulnerable. But you also have to recognize that the energy area is something that they all feel vulnerable about. And we need to have that as a fundamental component and Energy Summit to figure out how to produce more Energy Around the world, predicting the u. S. And europe and cooperating would be substantial. We shouldnt forget that russia has a role in the middle east. That russian airplanes in iraq and the president has talked about a coalition, somehow russia wont be in any coalition that deals with isis. The but there are Russian Forces there on the ground in iraq. So somehow some conversation with the russians is going to be needed on that. I dont think hell talk about it, but its certainly one of the background stories thats going on in the middle east. There are a lot of players. We need to deal with the moderate sunnis like the jordanians and some others. We also have to realize there are other players, iran is a player, russia is a player. There are several others. And figure out how at least in the background they play into this situation. You cant ignore them, but you dont want them as necessarily overt allies. Right. Very good point, bob. So appreciate your time today. Thanks so much. Thank you for having me. Bob hormats, vice chairman of kissinger associates. The irs scandal. More missing emails. Is the doj withholding a potential witness from congress . Our panel is up next and theyll look ahead on that as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. Back in a moment. At od, whatever business youre in, thats the business were in with Premium Service like one of the best ontime delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. Od. Helping the world keep promises. From americas news headquarters, im eric shawn. Here are some other stories making headlines at this hour. The funeral for comedy legend joan rivers set to begin in about a half hour from now. The private event in manhattan on the Upper East Side with a red carpet and celebrities as the famed comedienne would have loved. She died thursday at the age of 81. The new york city medical examiner says more tests are needed to determine her exact cause of death. State investigators are looking at that Outpatient Clinic where she went for a minor procedure on her vocal cords and then reportedly went into cardiac arrest. The u. S. Military has launched an air strike against iraq targeting isis terrorists. They are trying were told to capture the dam. A breach would release deadly floodwaters. It remains unknown if isis wants to destroy the dam or is looking to capture it to control electricity in the area. This is the second dam isis has tried to capture in iraq. Ill be back at noon eastern and then the doctors are in. Dr. Siegel joins us two hours from now for sunday house call at 12 30 eastern. For now, im eric shawn. Back to sunday morning futures and maria. Thank you, eric. Just when you thought you had heard enough from the irs, now the tax agency says it is missing the emails of five more employees whom Congress Wants to question. Thats on top of lois lerners emails, of course. Meanwhile, congressman jim jordan of ohio is demanding department of justice hand over information on former lerner staffer andrew strelka, also alleged to have been involved in targeting conservative groups. Ed rollins is a longtime strategist to business and political leaders, fox news political analyst. Judith miller, Manhattan Institute for policy research, a Pulitzer Prize winning author and fox news contributor. Russell goldsmith, chairman and ceo of Citi National bank, reporting strong earnings. Thank you for joining us. This is just extraordinary. I dont understand how this keeps on going. Its almost like a comedy. Five more people. It is a comedy. The problem is, there is no time to get it done and congress is going to be back for 12 days. Right. The senate is out september 23rd. Theyve got a budget resolution, export import. Obviously, the president s speech and all of the concern in the international arena. This just becomes one more sort of background noise. It should be a full investigation, it should be something something should be done about it, but its not going to. So you dont think you have any confidence it will turn into an investigation . I dont have any confidence the administration will be able to do anything with it. Judy . I wish i could be optimistic, but im not. There is a great agenda of items to do out there and i dont think this congress is going to get to any of them. We cant depend on the administration to investigate it is. As it relates to the irs. As this top House Republican demands the doj hand over the contact information. So, i mean, of a former employee accused of having a conflict of interest, we cant find it . Well, theres not a smidgen. Not a smidgen of look, this has gone on for so long, i think the American People are at this point just kind of throwing up their hands and saying, of course. Yeah. I think people understand what went on here. But whether or not were of going to get a full accounting, im beginning to doubt that. Its like benghazi. Just the drum beat, drum beat, drum beat. People made up their own mind guilt is involved but the Justice Department is never going to investigate itself. But does that drum beat impact the Upcoming Elections and how does that play out . Were going to see that. Quickly. The president has been so diminished by everything thats happened in his administration, he is clearly a drag on this ticket. It comes down to three or four senate seats. Its not a National Exit anymore, its three or four senate seats and its getting very, very close and the momentum is going republicans way. Russell, youve obviously been reporting strong earnings, record earnings for the second quarter, straight profitable quarter for 85 quarters in a row. Do these events Impact Business in general . I mean, whats going on geopolitically, whats going on domestically in this loss of confidence in the president , going into the midterm elections, what kind of an impact have you seen in business . Well, i think its a bit of two different tracks. On the one hand, the economy is getting better. The trends are good in a variety of ways. Theyre not fantastic. But theyre good. And at the same time, were affected by the gridlock in washington. Take Immigration Reform. All of the estimates are that there are tens of thousands of jobs, lots of tax revenue, big stimulus to the economy if we had a decent reform of immigration. There are things the federal government could be doing on the fiscal side that would help the economy. So its the absence of some of that that i think is holding it back. And if you look at what bernanke was saying, what cherry ellen has been saying, they would like to see some more stimulus from the fiscal side. So people are affected. And you see it in interest rates. These capital flows coming into the United States are kind of flying in the face of the fed pulling back quantitative easing. But you see people bringing in capital from latin america, china, russian, affecting interest rates. Clearly, nobody is an island, no entrepreneur is at Citi National is immune to whats going on in the broader global economy. Im glad you mentioned immigration. Im going to come back to that. Of course, the president delaying handling immigration until after the midterms. Im wondering if hes handing the election in november to the gop as a result. But first, lets get a look at whats coming up in 20 minutes on media buzz. Howie kurtz with us now on that. What are we looking at . You set me up nicely for this tease. Were going to jump on this breaking news about the president delaying any action on immigration. Like at the way the white house spun this by leaking it to the press yesterday and culminating in a president ial interview on meet the press admitting this is political but trying to blame it on the republicans. I think this is going to be very important as it plays out. The president made nobody happy with this decision. And also, were going to unveil a new segment, the media and the mid terms, how the coverage is shaping the fall elections. Thats going to be good. Ill be there, howie. See you at the top of the hour. Meanwhile, the president says hell hold off any legislation on immigration until after those november elections. Who does this really help, democrats or republicans . The panel weighs in on that, as we continue to look ahead on sunday morning futures. Back in a moment. When fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts who work with Portfolio Management experts thats when expertise happens. Mfs. Because there is no expertise without collaboration. Welcome back. President obama delaying any action on immigration until after the midterm elections, though he said his decision is not political. This after he pledged to do something about it by the end of the summer, and now hes blaming his altered timetable on the Immigration Crisis as tens of thousands of illegals, many of them children, flood across our southern border. Our panel is back, ed rollins, judy miller, russell goldsmith, talking about immigration. You brought it up, russell. What are the implications of this, ed . Well, this is total political decision on the part of the president. There are senate races in play. Alaska, north carolina, iowa, which is an open seat that we can win and louisiana. And i think to a certain extent, all senators say the numbers are bad. You energize republicans, even greater than they are today if you basically put this bill forward. And thats why he backed away. And i think it was a shrewd thing for the president to do, but what annoys me, hes not being honest with the American People about why hes done it. He said, well, you know, the crisis on the border has abated somewhat. And also i need more time to explain to the American People what im trying to do on Immigration Reform. Why not just level with the American People and say im doing this because i want to win four seats. Yeah. In the midterms. I dont understand why he doesnt do that. It actually could have worked out, had he had some action on the table legislation on the table to the democrats favor, given the slow response and the mistakes that the republicans have made. Exactly. Russell. I think youre exactly right, maria. Look, the senate had 68 votes and passed a comprehensive bipartisan bill on Immigration Reform months ago. Its never gotten to the floor of the house of representatives. They spend their time voting against obamacare, which is going nowhere. And i think the democrats could make a real issue out of that, because the fact is, the economy would benefit tremendously from Immigration Reform. Citi national has offices in the Silicon Valley. There are tens of thousands of jobs that are empty, because were sending kids that get educated in the United States and stem and wont give them a green card, wont give them an h1 visa. We need them. I saw a statistic the other day, 40 of the founders or ceo of Silicon Valley companies are immigrants. We need those guys. Yeah. No disrespect, but politically, its going nowhere in this congress. Its a long, tedious process, it took reagan five years to get the 86 bill through. There is no bipartisan support. And what the senate did was a compromise. It is never going anywhere beyond and probably wouldnt win again in the senate today. Its going to take a twoyear process. The election has to come and go and maybe the second election, the president ial change. By the way, during thursday nights california Gubernatorial Debate against neel kashkari, jerry brown revealed 30 of the States School children are Illegal Immigrants or dont speak english. Let me move on to isis. Judy, you have written your analysis of what has happened. We saw more developments overnight. Tell us your latest analysis in terms of the president s response. Were going to hear from the president wednesday on the strategy. Well, we have finally seen the president s rhetoric catch up on the ground with his actions. He has been bombing in iraq. Now we have stepped that up. And we have also seen now have about 1,100, quote, boots on the ground, only we dont have boots on the ground. But these people are providing the intelligence and the advice to the peshmerga, the kurds and the sunni iraqi army, which has to do the bulk of the fighting. Heres what i think about isis. We have to keep in mind that isis is a short term, immediate problem that i think the president will be able to deal with. The longerterm challenge is iran and the danger i see ahead of us is that we will start working with the iranians, thinking we can make a deal on isis that will carry over to other issues such as the Nuclear Issue or are really different interests in the middle east. Thats a dangerous path for the president. I think as your earlier guest said, though, if it we dont basically have American Leadership in there on the ground, the Iraqi Military and the protesters in syria are not going to get the job done. And we can bomb the daylights out of them and the saudis and what have you, but at the end of the day, unless American Leadership is in there in some way, shape or form, beyond telling intelligence, its not going to happen. Will we hear that wednesday, will we hear a strategy of leadership . I think were going to hear that we have learned some lessons since the surge. We have learned its very hard, but its crucial to separate out the local people, whose hearts and minds youre trying to win, from the bad guys youre trying to bomb. And all those people calling for bombing, i think the president is right to wait to make sure were bombing the right people. All right. Stay with us. Because weve got to get into domestic issues like the economy. We had disappointing jobs numbers this past week, just as were. Dad, i know i havent said this often enough, but thank you. Thank you mom for protecting my future. Thank you for being my hero and my dad. 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Find new ways to save energy and money with pg es Business Energy checkup. Welcome. Back with our panel, ed rollins, judy miller, russell goldsmith. We had job numbers, the weakest showing in terms of job creation in the month of august in 2014. Russell, you will banking a portion of the country, loans were up 17 , deposits thelty record levels, your most recent earnings. What are you seeing from the consumers out there in terms of the ability to pay their mortgage in terms of the Actual Health of the consumer . Again, maria, you have this contradicti contradiction. Housing starts are below normal rates. Youre not seeing the construction jobs you need to get some of our unskilled, unjaelted workers back to work. But on the other side, look at car and Light Truck Production sales, the second biggest purchase for most americans. It runs around 17. 5 million units. That tells you people with jobs are feeling good enough to go out and buy a new f150, its the number one selling vehicle in north america. The ford truck. And having said that, the numbers are very much a mixed story. 142,000 jobs created for the month of august, Unemployment Rate 6. 12 . Where is the disconnect . People with jobs feel good about it. Its the people without jobs, theyre out of the job market, they dont feel good about it. People with stocks feel good about stocks. Just from a political perspective, theres still a lot of uncertainty out there and ordinary folks dont watch all the things that you watch and the dont have the ability to borrow money the way you have the ability to borrow money. They worry about these things for their kids. And the polls continue to show that people are worried that their kids are not going to have the same opportunities that they had, judy. Yes, because they have to have their parents have to have two jobs in order to earn what they used to earn with one job. And i was struck by Janet Yellens remarks that the greatest economic challenge is this continuing growing gap. The income and equality where one, you know, top 10 are earning 30 of the nations wealth. I mean, this is politically and economically destabilized into our country. And then you look at our largest trading partner, europe, who of course is handcuffed as a result of this alliance from russia. Your thoughts on putin right now in terms of driving through there was supposed to be a ceasefire. Shelling happened overnight. I guess that threatens the ceasefire. If he can create a land bridge, i think hes going to do it. I will be on a plate plane on wednesday to the ukraine. As the president is telling us what he plans to do about isis, i also want to know more about what he wants to do with russia. I think the battle so far has proven to putin that if you wants to take ukraine, he can do it in two weeks. I think hes not in any way, shape or form that hes not worried about the world Public Opinion and certainly not our pb opinion. I think its an entrenched question in terms of what he wants to do. How about mario draghi at the European Central bank creating this stimulus last week, are you worried that it impacts the u. S. . It does impact interest rates. You see the fed bringing quantitative easing to an end in october and we need to get rates back up in our economy. But you have these huge capital flows because people realize money is safe and the sound here. Latin americans coming into florida, buying kondos, chinese coming into california. Investing in homes. This ste greatest plate place to put your capital. Its helping to stimulate the economy. But the trend has been very positive. Weve had more than 200,000 job created in the private sector every month. So august that one statistic is a bit of a blip. Youve got purchasing managers, index very, very strong. Auto why dont we feel it, russell . Why doesnt it feel like theres vibrancy, then . Yeah, i think in part i think on the fiscal side, and youve heard that said before, we need to do more. The government could do more, whether its Immigration Reform, infrastructure, we should be selling energy abroad. You saw tom freedmans column this morning. We could tax it as it leaves the country, get some revenue, and we could fight against putins controls over europe if we were selling energy to europe. Well take a look. Its all political. The president has put the keystone decision off the until after the midterms. Well take a break and then the one thing to watch for the week ahead. Stay with us. Hello three grams daily of betaglucan. A soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. Thank you my treadmill started to dress i mibetter than i did. 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I wonder what weve been technique background impacts peoples perception on whether or not the gop takes the senate. That will do it for sunday morning futures. I thank my panel for joining us today. Ill see you tomorrow. Have a great sunday. On the buzz beater this sunday, another journalist killed by terrorists. As the media step up a war of words over isis. President obama drawing mounting criticism, even from some liberal comment taters for not acting aggressively. And this is the president who just cant face it. The world has disappointed him and he is turning his back on on the world and on the people who elected him on all of us. So the idea weve been on the aggressive side here, that weve been winning this war against terrorism is ludicrous. But as the pundits pound the president , who ordered fresh air strikes against isis yesterday . Is there a media drum beat for war . A