0 obama administration because irs. when you start polly graphing c.i.a. agents once a week, the normal pattern is about three to five years for a polygraph. it suggests a leak of classified information you are getting into territory that clearly makes this administration uncomfortable. that obama doesn't want to explore. that suddenly makes this issue a scandal. >> jon: you are no supporter of what the white house does. they seem to suggest that the irs targeting conservative groups was not a scandal, benghazi was not a scandal. is he right? >> he did his interview, first interview with the "new york times" in three years. i'm talking about the president. he would not have done it if this was not beginning to affect his base. some of these quote, unquote, phony scandals. you have people like from the new republic talking about larry summers and what is going on with that. i am telling you this is beginning to affect the base and that is a problem. >> jon: a piece of tape on the doorway to democratic headquarters might have been considered a phony scandal back in the day. nobody died in watergate. four people died in benghazi. that is line we've heard. cnn justify is a turning point. it woke the scandal back up again. it put back the focus there have been no arrests in that attack. for viewers who don't know cnn interviewed a guy who is wanted as potentially a suspect and "new york times" did right after the attack he was having a fuzzy navel at a cafe and benghazi is no-fly zone. president once sounded like o.j., we're going to track down the real killers, unless they are behind the 17th green. it ain't happening yet. murray that his wife was for obama and nbc has people out in front the administration and not getting called on it. >> jon: on the irs scandal, john fund from the national review noted this week that obama's admonition that we ignore the scandals has been picked up by many elite media supporters. as any journalist that has followed the trajectory of scandals knows that sex behavior is a clue those looking into the irs scandal may be getting warm? >> it was a brilliant piece. this is an example where the reality is catching up. another one is the reporters scandal. ask james rosen if he thinks they are phony or not. the example that the media under covered the stories, the house judiciary committee had a huge report on the reporter stuff and got almost no attention. >> jon: next on news watch, will it be become all hillary all the time? >> lights, camera, action, news out this week that nbc and cnn have plans to make movies about hillary clinton but how will that news affect the news division of the two networks. can't be good news. details next on news watch. how mu protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? new purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learmore at purinaone.com it fills you with energy... and it gives you what you are looking for to live a more natural life. in a convennt two bar pack. this is nature valley. nature at its most delicious.