a different court, the sixth circuit, which is in cincinnatii i believe, in ohio. and what everyone expects is that this will get appealed to the supreme court. now, given that thee supreme court was not very interested in the biden administration's efforts to stop property owners from being able to evict tenants back in august, it seems quite possible that they will agree with the fifth circuit on this and that these mandates will be tossed before they ever took effect. but there is a couple other points, sorry, go on. >> tucker: can i ask you the core point, so now, unless i'm misreading the science and correct me if i am, it sounds like the vaccinated are at no greater risk from the unvaccinated as vice versa. the vaccinated can spread the virus as efficiently as anybody else. so what the is justification for these mandates, at this point? i >> i mean, there is no medical justification for this. one of the things that the fifth circuit said, which is fascinating, is if this is such an emergency, you issued thisou order back in september. you said you were going to issue it in september.mbu