is that she could have had a different defense. i was very critical of the defense and the prosecution in the case. i didn't feel this was the strongest defense that was put on. remorse itself is not a factor, an element to this crime. but what you saw immediately after the shooting was shock. it was an officer that was in disbelief as to what occurred. that is relevant. i think the jury understood that it was not an intentional act. if it's not intentional, how can you say it was a conscious disregard of the home? that's what everyone gets stuck on. >> gillian: so what do you you think? if you're a judge in this case, how should you approach her sentencing here? >> i'm not familiar with this judge's sentencing history. i think she's been a very fine judge in this trial. she's been really the gold standard. you do have someone that will be