beyond ukraine and putin is a major security threat to really the entire world and certainly all the countries that border him there in europe. >> griff: do you believe and it looks that putin could take ukraine that he'd attack a baltic state like estonia, lithuania, latvia, which is a nato country, which would raise the stakes. >> if he does take ukraine, god forbid. let's hope he doesn't. but the problem now is i think putin is battle fixated. russia triumphant in ukraine would embolden him to try and move someplace else because it would tell us two things. it would tell us that nato, u.s., and the world failed to stand with ukraine and stop putin there, and the next thing is that russia's military, if he