know that aid was being withhel withheld. volker repeatedly denied to ship the character of the events, ship the ambassador, you're making this much more public aid that has to be. he can get the answer he wanted from volker, it looks like today. it a disaster. speak out the room, and it's kif funny about it, it's about to be a secure facility that signs up and world war i and stuff. and it's amazing, because you're in the hearing and to the witness, and sometimes they will call a break to go outside and do an f nbc interview in the middle will other people to the questioning. so in public, the testimony should be released because it's one-sided -- >> laura: i don't know, it's a he said, he said, by the way i just went up public up the mike to mike put up mick mulvaney statement, this is what he said later today after the press conference "there's apsley no