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giuliani to manufacture dirt on the president s political opponents and arrested trying to flee the country. maybe i ll ask rudy to say a few words. tonight what we know about the two men. is rudy giuliani now under investigation? and what did the president know and when did he know it? what conversations have you head with lev parnas and igor fruman? i don t know those gentlemen. you were in pictures with them. and hillary clinton s campaign manager john podesta what he makes the push to impeach trump. and as republicans stews over defecks the new call from conservative lawyers who say a speedy impeachment inquiry is necessary. when all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i m chris hayes. the first arrests of the impeachment era happened today and washington, d.c. airport attempting to leave the country with one way tickets get this only hours after they lunched with their business associate and lawyer rudy giuliani. let me take a minute to explain ....
mean, that s the appropriate way to raise an issue with the ukrainian president, correct? it s appropriate for the justice department and the prosecutor general to cooperate and to exchange information, yes. to the extent the president has concerns and to the extent the attorney general is having u.s. attorney durham look into it, isn t it entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for president zelensky and say youn touch with our official channels? mr. castor, i don t know the precise appropriateness of these kinds of relations. now, were either of you involved with the preparation for the 7/25 call? i was not. i was not. how do you account for that? i mean, you were two of the key officials with responsibility for ukrainian policy. if the president of the united states is going to have a call with the leader of ukraine, why wouldn t you ordinarily be involved with the preparation? sir, we work for the department of state in an embassy overseas. prep ....
wt is the full extent cleared away. chuck rosenberg. of the democrats prior senator mccain s former coordination with the whistle-blower, and who else did colleague, jeff flake, retired the whistle-blower coordinate senator from arizona, surmised this effort with? that if a secret impeachment second, what is the full extent vote were held, 30-35 of the of ukraine s election meddling senate republican members would against the trump campaign? vote to impeach. and i thought how sad, how sad, and third, why did burisma hire that it takes a secret vote to hunter biden, and what did he do for them, and did his position make a courageous vote. affect any u.s. government actions under the obama it should be 30-35 if they administration? these questions will remain believe that s the right thing to do. i know i m sounding naive, but i outstanding because republicans were denied the right to call witnesses that know these remember being saddened by that. i feel the same way. answers. ....
that a businessman would have knowledge is limited in any when he is about to sign a transaction. but if you go after his integrity, right, if you go check. and by that he clearly meant after his public service, if you go after his military record, that president trump was you re done. thinking about or had in front but chuck, isn t there a high stakes problem with that, for of him the possibility of providing security assistance to trump and the republicans to say, because then the next question is, okay, who does know ukraine. it was similar to writing a check to someone who you re what trump said? bolton and trump. about to send. he used that analogy very and they don t want those folks to come before congress. i absolutely agree. i m saying if there is a path to clearly to indicate that this try and point out that he has limited knowledge, that s the would be this would require path and it s a narrow one. something. if that person owed him does it ultimately work? no, it ....
what we ve been discussing w today, which involved in a regular channel, was a request that went against u.s. policy that have have undermined the rule of law and our long-standing policy goals in ukraine, as in other countries in the post-soviet space. those policies which were indeed championed by ambassador yovanovitch. you also testified on october 15th in the deposition about fundamental reforms necessary for ukraine to fight corruption and to transform the country. and you t cited the importance reforming certain institutions, notably was investigating president trump s political opponents a part of those necessary reforms? was it on that list of yours or indeed was it on any list? no, they weren t. in fact, historically, is it not true that a major problem in the ukraine has been its misuse of prosecutors, precisely to conduct investigation of political opponents. that s a legacy i dare suggest from the soviet era when, as you stated in your testimony, prosecutors ....