>> look what reagan and volker did. volker was -- >> harris: watch what they did, not what they said. good advice. i want to get to this. there is a lot of confusion over what's happening now. you forecast this the last time you and i were together and it has been a minute but you said this is going to happen if inflation stays high and we have anything happen on the world stage. something is happening on the world stage right now. ukraine and russia and the dow is fairly deep in negative territory again but yesterday was just wild. this chart tells the whole story. >> have you ever seen anything like that in your life? >> harris: i have but it was recessionary.