issue that would meet the conditionality. >> the dod did meet, say they met the certification. >> yes, sir. i think it may have within in the july time frame. >> thank you. so. >> it's interesting and curious that we're talking about hearsay evidence, that is extraordinary to me that the committee has been able to get as much information that they had, direct or hearsay, given the obstruction. you gentlemen were both asked by the state department not to appear for your depositions. is that correct? >> ? >> we both received i received initially a letter directing me not to appear. and once the committees issued a subpoena, i was under legal obligation to appear and i am here today under subpoena. >> ambassador, were you also asked not to be part of the deposition? >> mr. quigley, i was told by the state department don't appear under these circumstances, that was in the letter to me. and when i got the subpoena