this further. ambassador volker didn't say anything at this particular juncture. he said he had another meeting, and they all left. i went back and relate this to ambassador bolton, which is when he gave me the very specific instruction that we've already been through, to go and talk to mr. eisenberg, john eisenberg, in the nse council office. >> thank you. mr. nunes? >> i assume we are at 8 minutes, there? >> i don't cut off a witness in the middle of the answer. you may proceed. >> sorry, that was a long answer. >> mr. jordan? >> mr. holmes, why didn't your boss talk about it? >> what's that, sir? >> i didn't your boss bring up the call that you overheard? the reason you are here today? you are there closing witness. yet their star witness, their first witness, ambassador taylor, didn't even bring it up. when we deposed you, you said this was extremely distinctive experience. one of the most remarkable events of your life. you described it like this.