same thing. i already told you, ron, he says they're corrupt. where the hella merkel and germany lets them provide them with support, never discussed with you any quid pro quo, correct? >> correct. i am the one that raised issue from my phone call with gordon sondland, i was not sure what in was works it is nebulous, i described it enough he got ticked off, he did not like hearing that and denied it. mark: not until, my recollection, september 9, give or take, it could have been leyter, we learn about the so-called whistleblower with leaking out of capitol hill, and document sent to them on 9th and inteligent committee according to timeline, not the president coming up with an after the fact explanation for what took place. it is the president of the united states doing what the president has said since. which is, now, they go the support, but i need to make sure