are they not stepping up or syria or whatever it is. seemed mutual in sense he was not seeking anything from anyone this was a view point. later youh a phone call with president august 31. i had a trip to visit president zelensky on september 5, a couple days before, i heard president was considering withholding the he has already provided this in was past, but now reconsidering, fiscal year end, first called up gordon sondland the day before, asking, what was happening, had was then. mark: the ambassador. ambassador son land, during that conversation. i can t tell you how gordon described it. but there was something in the works, trying to do something you know. president zelensky to do
the activities with ukraine. and the united states among other positions you hold in the united states senate. we have this document that came out, president s phone call, a transcript of it. with the president of ukraine. back in july. people are trying to democrats in media in particular, say that president was seeking a quid pro quo. i don t read this in here, you have some back ground on this. you had a meeting with president and others in may this year. in just that transcript, i read, that i think it is a gracious phone call on part of the president. i went to ukraine in may 20. to attend the inauguration of president zelensky, i went with secretary perry, gordon sondland and kirk volcker.
be released. that is where he made ad adamant angry devil denial. he said no way, i would do that, who told you that. i felt a little guilty, it was gordon, i went to record last friday. with the wall street journal, laying that out after text between gordon son sondland and kirk volcker were made public. out of the blue, he didn t know i was going to raise that issue, his immediate reaction, adamant, angry denial, i would never do that. i thought it was important to get that fact out on the table. mark: this is crucial, i want to underscore the point in maemi me says i am concerned it is corrupt, why doesn t europe step up. you talked to him august 31, the
same thing. i already told you, ron, he says they re corrupt. where the hella merkel and germany lets them provide them with support, never discussed with you any quid pro quo, correct? correct. i am the one that raised issue from my phone call with gordon sondland, i was not sure what in was works it is nebulous, i described it enough he got ticked off, he did not like hearing that and denied it. mark: not until, my recollection, september 9, give or take, it could have been leyter, we learn about the so-called whistleblower with leaking out of capitol hill, and document sent to them on 9th and inteligent committee according to timeline, not the president coming up with an after the fact explanation for what took place. it is the president of the united states doing what the president has said since. which is, now, they go the support, but i need to make sure
are they not stepping up or syria or whatever it is. seemed mutual in sense he was not seeking anything from anyone this was a view point. later youh a phone call with president august 31. i had a trip to visit president zelensky on september 5, a couple days before, i heard president was considering withholding the he has already provided this in was past, but now reconsidering, fiscal year end, first called up gordon sondland the day before, asking, what was happening, had was then. mark: the ambassador. ambassador son land, during that conversation. i can t tell you how gordon described it. but there was something in the works, trying to do something you know.