have to prove the absence malice so it is a pretty high bar but it should not be the case with roice. so you take this case and bring it before a jury. i would assume your odds are pretty good of winning. >> well, we think so. you are absolutely correct, there is a doctrine with a public figure, even in that case, we allege in the lawsuit that baldwin is a serial offender come has done this over and over again over the course of years, and he knows very well what is going to happen when he sensed something to 2.4 million people, which by the way is five times the population of the state where roice lives. the reach is incredible and the harm was immediate. roice will tell you she immediately started getting hateful messages, death threats, the same for her sister and lance corporal mccollum's widow. >> sean: what did you make of