william taylor. >> good afternoon. i would like to walk you through a couple points raised by my colleagues on the other side. one is a claim that the july 25 call summary shows no evidence of pressure on the ukrainian government. in fact, they argue the ukrainians do not feel any pressure at any time to comply with any of president trump's request for investigation. in fact, ambassador taylor, and your deposition in october, you stated that due to the hold president trump placed on aid to the ukraine, the ukrainians became quote-unquote desperate. isn't that right? >> in august, they did not know, as fa far as i'm aware. at the end of august, the article came out.