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"fox & friends" hour one. we haven't had an hour before this. that would have been zero. this is the first hour of "fox & friends," it starts right now. >> welcome heather. nice to see you. >> you are on top of things this morning. >> oh, yeah. it's the vat of coffee we have had this morning. you said 16 days until the election? >> yeah, that's right. >> you can believe that? >> i know. it has gone by so quickly. you talk to folks in a the will of those swing states and they are getting phone call after phone call already. they are tired of it and ready for this thing to be over. >> and the ads? if you are a swing state viewer this morning call us. >> you folks in ohio i'm sure you are tired of the ads. >> meanwhile we talk about this 16 days out. and we continue to talk about what happened in benghazi, how the administration handled it. this yearly will be the focus of tuesday's final debate. and you open up the "new york post" and you read this: they watched them die. what are they talking about? now, we know there was unmanned drone above the attack in benghazi in the final hours of the attack. not before it started. that means we were actually watching in realtime as this all went down. >> you can imagine watching this as it is happening. and here is what some folks are starting to say. we heard from gary berne citizen, a former cia operative. he said we could have gotten our military on the ground there before some of our u.s. citizens died. >> especially with they went over to the cia outpost after the initial consulate attack. >> up there in the sky with this drone looking down at the end of this military strike or i'm sorry this protest strike, whatever it was. gary says we were watching this. we could have rolled the military in. weighs on jeanine pirro show last night. take a listen. >> another piece of this that's not being discussed and the president is a master of deflecting and changing the subject. they could have at least put a team on the ground to help. they must have been screaming for help those people out there. >> of course they were screaming. >> and there was an option. there were options for them to help and interscreen. they could have asked for a machine gun one crowd would have beaten the crowd past. then they could have asked for quick reaction force. there is no discussion. >> now the investigation aimed squarely at the white house. darrell issa out with the report. he has had this 166 pages of documents that they are now releasing. democrats are upset about it saying you are playing politics releasing these politics. darrell issa is saying this to the president. the president has not been straightforward with the american people in the aftermath of the attack. the issue of who knew what and went after the attack has been a source of partisan sparring on libya saying it's made intelligence public as it became available. >> democrats are basically saying that republicans have released too much sensitive information that it could compromise some of our assets over there. some folks who this been working with us in libya. you didn't hear that when we were talking about usama bin laden and the doctor who helped americans get usama bin laden in pakistan. basically rotting in a prison in pakistan now as a result because his information was cawfd up. >> strong suit of obama administration. it is john kerry blasting this investigation saying it is a moment of incompetence to release the names of these libyan officials. peter king not taking his foot off the gas. he wants to continue his investigation. he wants all documents and cables released from what happened. here is what he told geraldo last night. >> here is what the administration should do and i'm calling on them now. they should release and take any names they want for security reasons. all of the cables, all of the correspondence, all of the emails and contacts that went back between benghazi and washington. everything within the cia which was known and also whether or not several days prior to that they did have any advanced notice that this attack was coming. >> and you know, guys, of course, the president was on the daily show the other night, it was not a funny show on the daily show. he was very poignant in saying as information came out we have released it we have been forth right with the american people as we have gotten information we have released. representative chaffets said that's not been the case. buck mckee hand says the coverup has been getting worse because we haven't been getting the information. >> let's remember there is cia operatives who say they had this information within 24 hours of that attack. was furnished to the administration which runs contrary to what susan rice had been saying. >> right. we could go back and forth on this for a while. there is some cia talking points that apparently were the guiding force for what susan rice said. woulder going to ask mike baker about this who was in the cia for 17 years. why if the station chief knew about this being a terrorist attack why the talking points several days later. back on the buck mostly cloudy keen take mckean attack on this is what he had to say. >> all the problems that erupt in washington when there is a coverup it's always worse than the incident itself. they ought to just come clean, tell us what happened. admit that mistakes were made and make corrections for the future. because this is just going to be a deeper and bigger hole that they are digging. >> don't people in washington get it? coverups and. >> that's a hard word to say at 6:00 in the morning. >> coverups and misdirection i'm going to try to say another word. go back to history and jfk after the bay of pigs invasion. his father said you need to come out and take responsibility. he comes outs in front of a press conference and says the buck stops with me. i made a mistake, it won't happen again. the american people have responded. governor huckabee has talked about this. when politicians take responsibility for these actions and they say the fog of war things happen. we were wrong about certain information, but here is what happened, the american people are forgiving. >> the american people we're all grown ups, right? we know we were attacked on 9/11. we have seen attacks on u.s. interests. had obama said this is a terror attack and tried to rally america behind the administration, we're might have done that there is a very good chance that we would have been on board with that. >> well over a month ago, this might have been put to rest. >> dana perino we have her on the show later on. we will ask her about white house. >> how does it unfold in the white house? did the white house ever get this information or was it only at the state department? we'll talk to dana later. >> three congressional investigations as a result of what happened in benghazi so far. >> the focus of that big debate but you have got some headlines. >> okay. i will get right to the headlines. a freightening warning for drivers in michigan. there is a serial gunman who appears to be on the loose there. cops say that there have been 16 reports of someone shooting from a dark car at oncoming traffic. this happening in wicksham and livingston county also in lion township. i hope i said that correctly. no one has been hurt but there has been a number of close calls. this is sparking fears of repeat of that 2002 sniper shooting? washington, d.c. >> skill and accuracy, this, you know, at first blush looks like somebody who is randomly shooting at people in cars. >> as a precaution, some folks are keeping their kids home from school in order to keep them off the road. a deadly revenge attack by the taliban in afghanistan. insurgents killing the children of an afghan police officer because he refdz to join their ranks. the officer's 9-year-old daughter and 18-year-old son were outside their home when they were both gunned down. imagine that, 9-year-old and 18-year-old. despite the vicious attack the officer says he will continue his police work for the safety of his country. this comes, of course, two weeks after the taliban shot a 14-year-old pakistani girl in the head because she was simply out spoken for women's education. she is currently recovering in a british hospital. emergency crews spending hours searching a plane at lang international airport after someone called in a bomb threat. they didn't find anybody on board the floor flight. they are looking for the person who made that phony threat. that plane was bound for london. the 16th just named seven people to the catholic church's highest honor saint hood. ♪ >> thousands gathering in st. peters square to attend the masses ceremony there among the two new saints are two american women. bear with me on this name please. katiraka, an native american name. she is the first to be declared a saint. how about that? we will ask jonathan about her name later on. i bet he knows the pronunciation. mother mary ann left syracuse, new york to head to hawaii to care for lepers. >> father john is busily preparing. >> the pressure is on. >>, would on her name. thanks, heather. >> coming up on the show since the cia knew within 24 hours that deadly attack on the consulate was an act of terror, why wasn't that said upfront. >> we will ask mike baker next about that. >> imagine riding on the train and seeing this. a man pulls out a sword. to break up a fight. >> there he is. or a lifesaver. 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joining us to break this all down, former cia covert operations officer president of diligence llc, a global intelligence and security firm mike baker. good to see you as always in boston this morning. >> thank you. >> look, it is difficult to figure out. now that we know that the cia station chief there in libya identified exactly what this was within 24 hours. and, yet, there has been cia talking points from september 15th that apparently guided sowfn rice in what she said saying that these demonstrations in benghazi with were inspired at the protests in cairo. it's difficult to make out how this happened. do you now have some insay? >> well, you know, there is the information that gets reported into langley. and then there is the information that comes out the other end once it gets into the mess that is washington. and sort of the all the various agendas that exist. so, this situation started to develop. and there is absolutely no doubt that the intelligence that was coming from the ground and, mind you, you know, what's happening in benghazi at the time of the attack, you know, through the that period, it's chaos. and you have got individuals scrambling to save their lives and save the lives of others and they are woefulfully underresourced. they are not kidded out the way they need to be. there is not the security capability think need to have. so, yes, you talk about putting a drone in place overhead at a certain point, you are getting some information. you have to remember it's not like the film. not like jack ryan and you are getting this amazing amount of insight into knowing what's going on. but you are getting screaming at langley saying give us some information. give us some insight. so your sources on the ground, you know, if they are available, you are getting all that intel. it's going back to washington. this is my point, it's going to the white house. the white house knew essentially as soon as as the information was landing in lapgly what the agency had. so for them to say they didn't know what was going on, to the degree that anyone knew what was going on. >> now we are learning from the state department documents, 166 payments released the other day some interesting revelations there let's go through them as quickly as we can back in june of 2012. we had ambassador stevens saying quote libya's fragile security deteriorates as power plays and extremism intensify in august stevens writes the state department and says what we have seen is not random plans of opportunity but plans of attack. september 11th warning about growing problems with the security situation there. why might these pleas have been ignored? >> well, because, again, it didn't fit the narrative and ever since the very beginning of our involvement in libya, and, you know, can you argue well, what were we doing in libya? supposedly it was an effort to save civilians, you know from, qaddafi. okay. never mind the fact that we have been silent in syria. but, it was very hands off. you know, it was air support. it was take control of the air and allow the libyan rebels and others to get in there and overthrow qaddafi. i think that's what you get when you have got sort of incon sis tense inconsistencies coming out of washington. they jumped in but they didn't jump. in they never committed the sort of resources that were required in a chaotic high threat operating environment. that really is the problem here. that's -- but that's not what the white house wants to discuss. so they are focusing on let's get everybody talking about what was the intel just after what led to this discussion about the video. that's ridiculous. set that aside and talk about what a serious -- it was from the very beginning. they didn't have a contingency plan when things went south. once a balloon goes up and you have got a problem like this attack, not as simple as saying send in the air force. have you got to have plans in place and you have got to have a counter assault team available. more than that, you should have had that security locked down months and months ago. >> is there not much going back to what you said about the drone overhead watching the final hours of this. is there much we could have done in the way of the military response? what should we have done in the wake of all of this. lastly, we know the man who was behind this attack just walking around benghazi, walking around libya. chatting with a "new york times" reporter just the other day. so disuls the options in terms of military action initially and now. >> what should we have done? we should have done everything humanly possible. even though we didn't have a contingency plan apparently. even though we didn't have immediately available rapid response team, what should have happened is the military should have been unleashed, do whatever is possible. get any resources available there immediately. whether it's air assets or whether it's it personnel on the ground. and i didn't, it's chaotic and yes there wasn't clear insight into, you know, the extent of the problem, you didn't really know where the movements were going. but just do whatever is possible. and that's an interesting point because, let's find out what was authorized. in terms of katalla, in erms of it the fellow in charge of al sharery the group likely behind some of this, that's a group that operates openly in benghazi for the most part. you know, maybe 200 or 300 people depending who you talk to in that organization. and he is the leader of it and they have. >> we have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us from boston this morning. more "fox & friends" in two minutes. don't go away. >> with a low national plan premium... ♪ ...and copays as low as one dollar... ♪ ...saving on your medicare prescriptions is easy. ♪ so you're free to focus on the things that really matter. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. or go twalmart.com forails. 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>> i don't know. i mean this is an event with two people that believe that whites are the genetically superior. >> this is diviltd by association. >> why you have you so angry. >> you are a punk that destroy people. because you try to destroy people's lives through innuendo. >> that pretty much sums it up. breitbart's struggle for the truth mainstream media subject of a new film that came out over the weekend called hating breitbart. here is andrew marcus. thanks for joining us from st. louis this morning. so you started out on the road with andrew breitbart and your intention was really to cover the tea party movement, how did that evolve to covering breitbart himself? >> oh, wow, covering the tea party movement it didn't take long before my path crossed with andrew breitbart and i saw the connection that he made with the tea party in the tea party and the tea party founder general with andrew breitbart. andrew breitbart found his army with the tea party. when we saw the two of them come together it, it was very dramatic and film maker i'm looking for drama. very quickly i realized this guy is the personification of the story of the media bias as it was being covered by the tea party. >> um-huh. >> and andrew breitbart. >> you say for those folks who have not seen him in person or did not have a chance during his lifetime to see him in person, he was just electrifying. really rallied the crowd. you say he is a once in a generation type spokesperson. >> absolutely. here is a gentleman who taught an entire movement how to stand up and fight back against, as you saw in that earlier clip, the accusation of racism. he he is absolutely right. if the worst thing that you can say about somebody in this country today and the race card was tossed around with reckless abandon. he taught people not to take it anymore and to stand up and fight back. >> the media certainly came after him in addition to a lot of activists on the other side, speak to that one for us. >> oh, well, you know, andrew breitbart launched his public career with the the famous acorn tapes. and because of that, you know, the narrative was that acorn helps black people. if you would attack acorn you must be attacking black people ie you are a racist. the tea party faced a similar criticism. they were against the policies of the previous administration and this president but because they were against the policies of this president ', is he a black president, ie, they are against a black man, ie, they are racist. it's a disgusting charge. >> you are really taking us back well to a couple of years ago and remember all of the rallies where folks would turn out at those town hall meetings with their members of congress and express their concerns and frustrations with obama care and, remember then, that eventually those members of congress started closing those meetings to the public because they heard so much that they didn't want to hear. oh, absolutely. listen, remember, when they passed healthcare, the congressional black caucus led by john lewis and andre carson, they accused the tea party of using the "n" word 15 times. 15 people in 15 times and the minute that they were challenged on this, that anybody demanded to have some evidence that this happened, andrew breitbart put out that $100,000 reward for it, they ran and hid. you know, you don't have to push back very hard before their narrative crumbles. that's what andrew breitbart was about. he was about pushing back on that narrative. >> we can see it here in the new film it's called hating breitbart, it happened on friday. andrew marcus is the director. it now has an r rating. you are lobbying for a pg 13 rating so best of luck with that. thank you. >> thank you. >> next on the run down, dead or alive, no problem. can you still get food stamps? 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[ laughter ] >> reuben stud dard didn't win, right? clay aiken won. >> reuben won. >> clay aiken got all the attention. >> that's right. that's why i thought that thank you, chris, for being so up on your clay aiken knowledge. >> he has got his giants jersey on, tough guy, he knows all about "american idol." >> i celebrated the entire catalog. i do wonder if he can really pin his debate on bin laden. i mean, you know, i know that's a funny clip, that was brilliant but you wonder, you can't really sit there and. >> it is fascinating that the foreign policy. that the foreign policy debate has shifted from being completely on president obama, that seemed like that was going to be a layup for him. easy foreign policy. now we have got libya. now the news of iran, of course, over the past few days. there is going to be a will the of things different. >> we know elections can turn on the dime as the news develops. let's talk about that more. just 16 days. 16 days, hard to imagine now quickly that's going to come up. 16 days before the election the candidates taking time out to prepare for their third and final presidential debate. their running mate busien othe road. in fact, focusing on some of those battleground states. peter does arey is live in washington this morning with more on this. hi there, peter. tell us the details about what he they are doing at the last minute. >> heather, once again today, congressman paul ryan is in charge of rallying the troops in swing states while his running meat, mitt romney does some last minute studying tomorrow's third and final debate. he will will be in sioux city iowa before a rally this colorado springs. new jersey, iowa ohio and pennsylvania. a state neither campaign has really paid that much attention to until this weekend. the congressman from wisconsin made a quick appear and at an airport in moon township p.a. just west of pittsburgh. and while he was there, he ripped the democrats he is running against for trying to scare voters away from the g.o.p. nominee. >> what's really amazing, president obama four years ago, when he was running for president said if you have no fresh ideas, use stale tactics to scare voters. if you don't have a record to run on, paint your opponent as someone people should run from. make a big election about small things. that's what he said when he ran for president four years ago. that's exactly what he has become. >> camp david this weekend getting ready for his last debate ever. and vice president joe biden is taking a break from campaigns as well. he will spend the weekend in wilmington, delaware and doesn't have any public events. he tried to win support by saying mitt romney can't make up his mind about important issues by using a new twist on a fame library of a -- familiar line of attack. >> romney wasn't sketchy. he was etch a sketchy. he is up there and shaking that thing. oh, this is what it looks like. you know, we were told it was coming. we were told it was coming, weren't we? you know, one of their people early on said we are going to get out the etch and sketch pad. they are got it out they are shaking that baby. >> and as he just mentioned the election is just 16 days away now. and if that doesn't give you a sense of how close we actually are to picking a president, maybe this will. mitt romney last night held his last fundraiser of the campaign. back to you. >> wow. >> last fundraiser of the campaign or last fundraiser before the debate. >> that's it. >> of the campaign. >> now going to be hitting all these swing states. they will be all over the place. their schedules are crazy. >> that etch a sketchy thing. romney continues to call the obama campaign the incredibly shrinking campaign. all these one liners seem to be adding to that 16 days out and stupid one liners? >> on the show yesterday these are the things people are just starting to pay attention. 16 days people are just starting to pay attention. >> how about a narrative how you are going to bet people back to work in a second term agenda. not stupid one liner. >> fairness you heard paul ryan over the weekend talking about job losses in the coal industry and what needs to be done to get -- they are in fact talking about the issues. >> right. romney ryan ticket. >> until you hear the one liners. >> the thing like the 30 second ads stick with people as frank luntz talks about. the time lines, the romnesia stuff. that stuff sticks with people. >> i guess. we have a new catalog out this morning. tomko burn's released a catalog. cataloged government waste and all the areas of the government where waste is involved. the states of new york and massachusetts are one of the most egregious offenders in this new report because because 2,000 dead people are receiving food stamps. >> 7236 people are receiving duplicate benefits. and 286 people are in state exclusion lists. i have no idea what a state exclusion list is but the point is 7200 people. getting two benefits at the same time or more than two benefits at the same time. and some of these people are dead. >> to defend the obama administration they have got so many people on food stamps. i mean,like, i'm sorry to joke about it. but 47 million people on food stamps in this country, which is, what, a 15 million in the last couple of years. so, naturally fraud and waste come when you are just dolling these things out. >> might be falling through the cracks. >> more than ever before. >> they have also had the report all these unnecessary payments. they also found as part of the snap program, the food stamp program that coburn found in individuals who smoke marijuana can receive added benefits. tax write offs. >> because he they want to eat so much? i don't get it? >> they eat more. >> marijuana increased to increased appear -- appetite. get more in food stamps you have the medical marijuana you need more to eat. >> are you kidding me? this is in the study that came out last week. >> medical marijuana munchies. headline in his report. >> medical marijuana. >> that should be in the headline in the onion but it's real. >> it's real. >> these are real headlines. >> he we have the rest of your headlines to bring you now morning. cops say that the man who tried to abduct a woman in colorado earlier this year might be the same person who kidnapped and murdered 10-year-old jessica ridgeway. in may, a man grand a woman while she was jogging around a lake near jessica's home and put a chemical soaked rag over her mouth. well, she was able to get away from the suspect, he was never caught though. cops have connected the two cases in hopes of bringing out new leads in just this case. in the meantime there were also reports that an 8-year-old boy was choked by a man in that same area just two weeks before the attack on that jogger. no word yet if cops have connected that case to jessica's. here's a way to break up a fight. look at this. [shouting] >> upper cut, upper cut followed by a samurai sword. this happened on a train in phoenix, arizona. two men ganged up against another man until this unidentified hero whips out his sword and then scares them off. >> who carries a sword? as soon as that guy pulled out the sword everybody is like, whoa, it got really quiet. okay. i guess everybody is like don't do nothing to get him mad or don't upset him. >> like that guy is a bad you know what. that entire incident is now under investigation. there is now an occupy elementary school. east side school for social action. i know that's where you guys send your kids, right? literally that's the name. it opened in manhattan. go figure it has two kindergarten classes so far. it teaches the students humanitarian values by organizing projects like fundraisers an food drives. some lolg residents say the social action name sounds a little too activists. how about that? the school for social action. >> do they teach math and science? coming up on the showed, truly frightening findings at a recent rally for president obama. >> are you aware of the -- benghazi? >> no. >> so, didn't know about any of the stuff happening in libya. the man who did that interview is here next. >> and as heated exchanges are being tossed around ahead of the election, our next guest says don't attack one another. get out. that's what you and i do when we have problems. talk it out here. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management to compete on the global stage. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university, we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the know-how we need for a new tomorrow. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. >> obama mall supporters were asked at a rally at an ohio university what they knew about the attacks on our consulate in benghazi. the responses might surprise you. >> are you aware of the attack on benghazi? >> no. >> no, i'm not aware of the consulate attack. >> i'm not really sure about that. >> what do you guys think of how the president handled the consulate attacks in benghazi? >> oh. >> wow. can you believe that? after all the coverage that this has gotten and these kids are saying that joining us now is a man who conducted the interview at ohio university. his name is caleb bon ham. he is the editor at large revealing politics.com. i'm surprised, listen to that these are college students who go to a good school and other adults. what was your reaction? >> you know, when i was at at te university, i was very surprised to hear that these steents students were unaware of the events overseas. i was even more surprised when i asked some of the older generations their thoughts on the events. they were unable to come up with have a very articulate answer. i was very surprised at the results i found. >> you could draw a lot of conclusions from this video what does this tell you about the media or the electorate. depending on what you watch, you read, you listen, to you might not be hearing about benghazi. >> i don't know how you wouldn't be hearing about benghazi. it's been on almost every news station. it's been in the papers. it's been the topic of discussions throughout the two debates that have been held already. it's dominated the news cycle. it was a massive event in our foreign policy. and for me to show at an obama rally to speak with individuals that are politically inclined. they are individuals that atlantic time out of their day to go to a political rally and the height of election season and i asked them a very simple question. and it was very shocking to hear that they were unable to come up with some answers. >> so i imagine then you informed them as to what happened. what was their reaction then? i kind of discussed a little bit of it there is not a whole lot i could inform them on. hey, this is what happened. you are not aware of the consulate attacks in benghazi? you don't know who ambassador chris stevens is? you know, this is what happened. on september 11th we were attacked and just got those thoughts. en but the original intent of the question was to it ask those individuals if they were aware of the spark that incited the violence in libya. to see if they would, maybe toe the party line and recite that this was a spontaneous uprising due to a youtube video. and i was simply speechless when i asked that question and they hadn't heard of the event at all. so, i didn't really spend a whole lot of time explaining the event after that. >> caleb bonham we have got to leave it there. it's an aptly named web site called revealing politics.com. i had a same conversation with a college babysitter of ours last week. >> thank you. coming up a school district bowing to the aclu banning youth ministers from the school. we will explain the controversy ahead. >> they are hoping to sway the undecided voters. but whose message is going to stick? that's when we come back ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. 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"fox & friends" hour two starts right now. again sunday morning. heather in for alli. >> send a text about the program. she is dialed. in she doesn't miss a moment. >> turn off the it v have some fun. >> i like to know on the days off that the kids got her out of bed early anyway. >> they always do don't they? let's get big news. every day we learn more information about what unfolded there. now we get this report out of the "new york post" overnight that there was an eye in the sky. a drone up above watching the entire event unfold. >> that means live streaming video heading back to washington at some point. so they knew exactly what was going on. can you imagine the terror that those people were experiencing on the ground just hoping that someone would come to their rescues? where was the help? >> this was 8 hour attack. the drone did capture the last hours. former covert operations officer it's not like they are watching in hd realtime and are able to throw the military straight in there. it's not -- >> -- like a harrison ford movie. >> it's not jack ryan, yeah. >> but, nevertheless, they have the time, he would argue and other cia folks would argue, they have the time to get some people heading in that direction. remember, we have troops over in africa. we don't know how long that flight is. they could have been dispatched apparently. there were forces in italy. we are told it was about an hour flight away. then the question becomes could the administration have done something? could the military and we have got a lot of military viewers out there. so write us your take on this. but could they have done something to try to save these guys? >> gary berntsen on the jeanine pirro show last night talks about the military response. listen to him. >> another piece of this that's not being discussed and the president is a master at trying to deflect and change the subject is that they could have pursued at least put a team on the ground to help. they must have been screaming for help those people out there. >> of course they were screaming. >> and there was an option. there were options for them to help and intervene. they could have asked for 130 tallan which is a large aircraft with machine guns computerized. one pass could have beaten the crowd back. then they could have asked for qr, quick reaction force. there is no discussion of that at all. >> why? >> and mike baker on our show earlier, you guys spoke to him or spoke to mike baker earlier on the show. he said we should have done everything humanly possible to get those guys out. >> we should have done everything humanly possible. even though we didn't have contingency plan apparently. even though we didn't have a response team, what should have happened is the military should have been unleashed said do whatever is possible. get any resources available there immediately. whether it's air assets or whether it's personnel on the ground and, yes, it's chaotic and yes, you know, there wasn't clear insight into the extent of the problem. you didn't really know where the movements were going, but just do whatever is possible. >> so why didn't they? now, on one hand, we don't know if they would have saved any of the four americans killed there in that benghazi compound. but it wouldn't have sent the right message to those families. what mike baker wants point in all of this is it would not have fit the narrative of the administration which is minimal footprint that we're letting you run your country. >> al qaeda is on the run? >> al qaeda is on the run. we are out. we have taken out our military presence there. wouldn't have fit that anywherive. >> politics will come into these decisions a lot of times. and prance, perhaps the administration or the department of defense thought it's just too risky to try to put some sort of forces on the ground to save these guys. who knows what happens. they could have another somalia situation black hawk down and maybe that was a risk they didn't want to take. >> there are now investigations and representative darrell issa saying the president and the white house has not been straightforward with the american people in the aftermath of the attack. the issue of who knew what and when about the details of the attack has become a central source of partisan sparring on libya. it made intelligence public as it became available. and it doesn't stop there. representative peter king now calling for all of the information to be released as the president promised the other night on the daily show saying all of these pieces of information as they come to light. >> listen. much. >> i think what the administration should do and i'm calling on them now. they should release and take out any names they want tore security reasons all of the cables, all of the correspondence, all of the emails, all of the contacts that went back and forth between benghazi in washington. everything within the cia which was known and also whether or not several days prior to that they did have any advanced notice that this was attack was coming. >> that is all what they want to know. we are hearing that the cia had this information within 24 hours of these attacks. >> the cia station chief. >> attacks taken place. which runs contrary to what the administration was saying he they were putting information out of as they got it. >> we are hearing mixed messages. >> then the cia had these talking points which were then given to susan rice. at one point you have the cia station chief who knew that information. on the other hand they are handing talking points to susan rice before she goes on these sunday talk shows. >> didn't you think that the cia was not a political organization? that has always been my understanding, from the reading of this situation, it does appear that politics really came into play and shaped the cia talking points you just referenced. >> that's the last thing that the family wants to hear. ambassador stevens family has been furious about any politics going in believe politics out of that. he says what comes into cia langley one thing what comes out after political folks get their hands on it can be something different. >> if only we had a debate to settle this. >> that is exactly what we will have tomorrow night. >> tomorrow night national security. >> candidates hunkered down president obama is at camp david practicing for the debate. mist romney is down in florida practicing for the debate. the surrogates, the running mates are out. paul ryan out on the campaign trail in pennsylvania which they are starting to sees a a battleground state again. seemed like it moved solely into the obama camp. now the romney camp pushing paul ryan out in western pennsylvania. take a listen. just a month ago we lost 1200 coal jobs in states like pennsylvania, west virginia and virginia. [boos] >> not only are these policies wrong. not only do these policies cost us jobs. not only do they mean that american energy dollars go to the middle east, they are keeping us from having a boone. they are keeping us from having jobs. they are keeping us from making our paychecks stretch farther. by saying no to the keystone pipeline, he is sending that oil to canada making us buy more from the middle east. >> vice president biden out on the trail trying out in one line zingers about etch a sketch, take a listen. >> the stakes for this country are too high. they are too important. it's time for people standing for public office to stand up and say what they believe. stand by what they say. have the character of their conviction and state it presidential elections are about character and the character of your convictions. and my guy, he never tells you anything he doesn't mean and he doesn't do. >> he did mention the etch asketch in another sound bite. referring to romney earlier this summer when the general election starts you shake it up like an etch aseven. >> hearing him talking about people standing up for what they say. i wouldn't be standing up for all the things joe biden said. >> what did peter doocy tell us earlier that joe biden is going dark that we basically won't hear from him in the hours before. >> covert? >> exactly. the administration doesn't want anything to get messed up. frightening warning for drivers in the state of michigan. that is where a serial gunman may be on the loose. cops say that there have been 16 reports of someone shooting from a dark car at oncoming traffic. this is happening in livingston county and also lion township. no one has been hurt but there have been a number of close calls it is sparking fears of a repeat of the 2002 sniper shootings in washington, d.c. sniper implies skill and accuracy. this, you know, at first blush looks like somebody that's randomly shooting at people in cars. >> as a precaution, some folks are keeping their kids home from school in order to keep them off the road and safe. emergency crews spending hours searching an airplane at los angeles international airport. after someone phoned in a bomb threat. police say that the bomb squad didn't find anything on board that united airlines flight and now they are looking for the person who made that phony threat. the "l.a. times" reports that that plane was bound for london. an indiana school district is now barring youth pastors from their lunch rooms after an aclu threatened to sue them. a parent apparently complained about the southwest allen county school district allowing a pastor to talk to students during lunch hour. the aclu claims that that those visits violate the constitution. and those are your headlines. >> all right. let's check in with maria molina this morning. she in for rick reichmuth this morning. >> good morning, everyone. today we are talking to out the northeast. temperatures where they should be from the northeast down into florida. currently 62 in tampa and 60 trees in no. it's actually cooler across the carolinas and georgia right now than it is in new york city. we are seeing some of that cooler air making it down into portions of the southeast. it's going to be a hot day out across texas. 90 over in san san antonio. so temperatures out across the center of the country will actually be well above average. more than 15 degrees above average for some of you. enjoy it why you do have that warm air out across the center of the nation. you will be noticing a change as we head into the next several days. a dip in the jet jet stream as e head into wednesday of next week and even by next weekend we are talking about temperatures well below average. starting to feel a little bit more like winter actually across some these parts of the country. otherwise, as far as rain goes, pretty quiet out across most of the south, east, and also the southern plains. a few showers off the great lakes but overall a beautiful day in the northeast. back to you guys. >> i like that. thanks a lot maria. >> thanks. >> coming up on the show, all eyes will be on president obama and mitt romney as they go head to head tomorrow night. how could this final debate impact the outcome of the election. nic are ragone with examples frm past debate history. >> plus a garlt invasion. we will tell you the unlikely place that this guy and a whole bunch of his friends have been popping up. 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terms of the outcome of the election? presidential historian nic ragone joins us now from washington. good morning. so how important is the final debate? >> well, they are critical. it's the last chance that voters have to see the two candidates together on the same stage. kind of evaluate them one on one up close and unscripted. so i think it's critical. now, it's only been about 30 years since we have had three debates. fryer that there was only one debate. this is kind of a make or break. if obama -- romney did good on the first one and obama the second one this is the one to watch here. >> who do you think is better in the clutch? >> it's a great question. kind of a sports analogy. >> yeah. >> i think they both have their strengths and weaknesses. clearly president obama wasn't red jr. to the first debate whether he took it for grnted he didn't prep right simply thought it was beneath him, whatever it was he wasn't there mitt romney was. the second debate mitt romney got thrown off his game this was a different president. third debate will be critical. it's foreign policy. that's one where mitt romney might have an opening given that benghazi is starting to unravel on the president. it will be interesting to see how he takes advantage of that. >> i want to get back it to benghazi in a minute. first i want to show folks examples from the debates that turned tides of thing. talking about health insurance take a listen here. >> these are the kind of elements national health insurance important to the american people governor reagan again, typically, is against such a proposal. >> governor, there you go again. >> so many folks remember that one. why was that so influential? >> well, that was one of those great lines, what's really important about that debate is most people don't remember it was seven days before the election, which is incredible. it was their only debate it was even more important. one week out. at that point carter was still ahead in the polls. people don't remember he was winning that debate. it wasn't just that line there was a few others that reagan used. it was a landslide. that was a pivotal moment. >> also some foreign policy issues going on including the hostage crisis and then president -- the president then at the same time authorized that mission to go into iran to try to save our service members. 8 men ended up dying as a result. how do you think benghazi could play into this whole thing? could we have an impact today as all the are of benghazi just like we did back in the 1980 election? >> absolutely. you pointed out correctly the iranian hostage situation changed the outcome of that election. benghazi has the chance to do that mitt romney realizes he kind of flund that issue in the second debate. he had an opening he didn't quite take advantage of it. even since the debate more information has come out against what the cia knew. talk about october surprise. that's the issue. >> we are getting late for a surprise now. take a look at one more clip. a the lo of this remember this when gore walked up to bush, remember. >> this that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not only what your philosophy and what your position on issues, but can you get things done done? [ laughter ] and i believe i can. >> al gore just looked so silly there, didn't he? why did that one influence voters so much? >> i don't know. it makes me laugh every time i see its it was one of those unscripted moments it wasn't what he said but what he did. if you remember during what whole campaign gore was struggling to find himselfs. earth tones and try be to be alfa. the look on george bush's face is better than any moment. it kind of crystallized that al gore wasn't comfortable in his own skin and you saw it there. that gave bush just enough of an advantage to pull ahead. >> bush knew that al gore had done that to his debate too his democratic opponents. he was anticipating that one. that shots power of anticipation. nic ragone thanks so much. he is a presidential historian. >> good chatting with you. >> u.s. ambassador chris stevens raised serious red flags about security concerns before the deadly consulate attack that cost him his life. why weren't his calls answered? our next guest says the ambassador was set up to die. and then hit with the worst news terrorist could get. a hospital tells a couple that their son had died but it turns out they made a major mistake. he was still alive. how could it happen? next. ...seems like you guys got a little gassed out there. enough already. c'mon guys. next question. mr. lewis? what's your favorite color? what's my favorite color? yes. purple. what's your favorite animal? sea turtle. what's your bedtime? do you believe in space aliens? ...i love puppies. hash browns or home fries? home fries. do you like my dress? why can't you guys ask good questions like this? 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>> absolutely. you are talking about a six hour period with clear, if they didn't have quote, unquote. actionable intelligence, once the bullets started flying you know there is a problem. there was multiple capabilities in a half an hour to an hour flight within the frame of reference here. >> they could have had fast team. we had a team on stand by in italy ready to go. no one gave the word? why. then you look at the fact that this was a running battle. started at the consulate i'm here the annex was a target of the baits. >> the cia annex next door. >> you have got to start asking really hard questions about why on earth did you not respond rapidly. if you have a predator. one other thing i hear the film on this is damning. some people have told me what's on that. it is really really bad. >> we now have some documents that have been released. therefore, we talk about the response watching this drone. why wasn't there a response -- well, well prior to the drone being in the air? and we have these documents. throw them up on the screen for you. this is a memo from ambassador stevens titled libya's fragile security rivalries, power plays and extremism intensifies. that was one of his memo. august memo to the state department what we have not random crimes of opportunity but rather targeted and discriminate attacks. they go on from there. forget the drone they should have been done month ago. >> the original sin after we killed bin laden we should not have told anybody for a week. from that point on mistake after mistake regarding al qaeda. fast forward libya optic which does not machine the political optic of the administration. everything is well that we are liberating these people and everything is going well. that's why i think you saw this repeated denial of any additional security forces because of the optic. because of the policy. so any time you have that level of concern, you are seeing repeated intelligence indicating that things are not right. you had members of al qaeda functioning militia all around you, yet, no one was paying attention. it was because of the politics. that's the only explanation that this point fits. >> we, i guess i didn't want to believe. i wanted to believe the cia was a nonpolitical organization, but we now know the cia post chief in libya identified exactly within 24 hours. how between then and september 15th when the cia prepared these talking points did the narrative change and this became about a spontaneous uprising relating to what happened at cairo. this is the cia. >> the cia gave those talking points to susan rice who went on the sunday talk talk shows. >> this is the main question. first people after that memo. the first thing the administration should do really if you have nothing to hide give out the memo. take-any sources of methods and put the point paper out. it was actually amalgamated information gone from cia over to jim clapper the director of national intelligence. it is that level as mike baker said earlier. you know,. >> a political appointee. >> we all in the field report accurately. there has been revolt of the spooks. because we report accurately it becomes amall gam amalgamated and modified. who made the call to ignore the intelligence and say the video was the source for all of this. if you go there it get behind what happens in all of this. >> jim clapper takes the information the cia gave to them. >> right. >> makes it political and then gives that to susan rice. >> they edit it. i believe in this case it was political. let me be very clear here. normally you have just the facts. but if the facts don't match your political perspective, the spooks always take it on the chin. that's what we are seeing here. the intelligence community if we get it right they take credit. politicians. if we get it wrong they get it right they don't like it. >> we would love to hear from david petraeus. >> a lot of people would. >> tony shaffer always a pleasure. great to have you in the studio today. >> people across the country joining forces to stand up for religious freedom. christian or not, is this something all americans should be concerned about especially when they head to the polls. we will explore this with father john coming up. >> do you remember this video? 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1960, became special assistant to president john f. kennedy. focused intensely on kennedy's high priority. food for peace program which would operate in more than a dozen countries by the time mcgovern left again for the senate in 1962. he won this time and as a senator mcgovern would become known for growing contempt for the vietnam war. >> the first time i spoke against vietnam my son was then 9 years old. is he now 19 and faced with the draft. it never occurred to me when i started speaking out against that war that it would some day catch my own son 10 days later. >> mcgovern voted in favor of the 1964 gulf of tonkin resolution which authorized military action in vietnam and would regret it bitterly. as the years doctoringed on he would become more and more adamant that the solution for vietnam was political and not military. in fact, by 1972 as mcgovern accepted the democratic nomination for president, at 3:00 a.m., his platform resolved around an appeal of withdrawal from vietnam. >> come home, america. comb home to the affirmation that we have a dream. comb home to the conviction. >> i knew that we had 75 or 80 million people out there watching the convention during the horseplay time. i was probably lucky if i had 2 million people watching at 2: 30 in the morning. we did very well out in guam as i recall. we were on prime time out there. that was about the only place where it was timed. after nixon defeated him. mcgovern lost we election bid and left congress in 1981. failed run in '84 saw him return to private life for good. but he remained politically relevant as he moved in and out of different think tanks and served as an ambassador to the u.n. food program. mcgovern said politics was an act of faith. while he joked his political timing was off, he strove to deepen that spiritual relationship with a country he loved until the day he died. in washington, bret baier, fox news. mcgovern 90 years old. now let's go to the rest of this morning's headlines. we have brand new developments to tell it but this morning. in a tragic shooting of a family in california, dops believe that 55-year-old desmond moses burst into his neighbor's home and started shooting and then set himtion own home oon fire. we believe now that he has died in fire. a father was killed in the shooting while trying to shield his children. his 4-year-old son died after being shot in the head. the mother and two other children were critically wounded. another child managed to escape unharmed. cops say that moses was being evicted from the house he lived in at the back of that family's property. well, cops say that the man who tried abducting a woman in colorado earlier this year might be the same person who kidnapped and murdered 10-year-old jessica ridgeway. in may, they say that a man grabbed a woman while she was jogging around a lake near jessica's home and then put a chemical soaked rag over her mouth. she was able to get away and that suspect has never been caught. cops have connected the two cases in hopes of bringing out new leads in jessica's case. in the meantime, there are also reports that an 8-year-old boy was joked by a man in -- choked by a man two weeks before the jog arer was attacked. no word if they have connected that case to jessica's. imagine the pain of hearing that your 8-year-old child has died and now imagine the horror of hearing from doctors tell you that they made a mistake and that your child is still alive? the parents of jaylin dorsey say that their son was pronounced defended in february at mercy hospital in chicago. well, they saw his eyes moving so they demanded the doctors perform tests. five hours later it was determined that their son was, in fact, alive. jaylin has a brain condition and needs to be on a ventilator. that was removed while he was declared dead. his parents are now suing the hospital worried that his condition may be worse. beginning to look like florida in long island after an alligator is found rooming around there. it's a nearly 3-foot long gator. spotted by someone in a park in sufficient function county way out of loild. animal rescue experts say they captured of the reptile shortly thereafter. they have found 7 in the past month. >> one was in parking lot. i have been tell for weeks to cover this story. >> applebee's? >> yeah. >> dinner on birthday. >> that means they're eating good in the neighborhood. check in with maria. >> you got that. >> don't pay any attention to the tiding. hey, marie a. >> good morning. noise he to see you guys. we are starting to see the one pop up and north log at too many clouds out here. beautiful dave temperatures just where they should be at. pretty much across the rest of the northeast, the southeast and even across the state of florida. looking good, enjoy it there are a couple of isolated showers here and there across portions of upstate, new york. zoom in across the map. isolated spots here and there upstate new york, portions of vermont. but very isolated stuff. again, a beautiful day to get out and enjoy. as we head westward we have storm systems producing some issues. snow across the higher elevations cascades. also dealing with snowal and also some showers that are across northern parts of north dakota and northern parts of minnesota. looking at unsettled weather across the midwest and the west. that's going to be the zone that we are going to be watching because our jet stream will be dipping producing cold temperatures just a series of storms will be moving through. expect that unsettled weather to continue for a couple more days out there. otherwise temperatures ahead of the storm systems are very warm. texas, some spots could see high temperatures in the 90's. yes, it's october. very warm. 7 a for your high over in kansas city and upper 60's in minneapolis and also in chicago. otherwise, guys, for us, new york city, 64 degrees for a high temperature. can't get any better. >> i will take it. >> beautiful. thank you maria. >> except san antonio weather a little hot. >> doing our pumpkin today. >> with your family? >> yeah. >> doing mine tomorrow. i'm excited for it. it was a rally across the country standing up for religious freedom. so christian or not is this something all americans should be concerned about? as they get ready to cast their vote? father jonathan morris next. >> and it is 16 days until the elections. and the benghazi terror attacks keeps getting worse for the administration. dana perino is here with how it will all play out in tomorrow night's debate. 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here to react is fox news religion contributor father jonathan morris. >> that's a great question, christian or not, does this matter at all? i think there has been so much talk about the hhs mandate being about contraception. many people say that doesn't affect me or i don't believe about what the church teaches about contraception and abortion. the reason why this matters to everyone is that what the administration has done with this as has been attempting to redefine what a religious organization is. and what organizations can be exempt from mandates coming from the government. what they have set here is guys, don't worry about it. people of religion don't worry about it churches don't worry about it. as long as what you are all about is taking care of your own, so if you are taking care of people, for example, in the catholic faith if you are the hospital and only taking care of people are that are catholic you are totally exempt from that. what organization has the hospital that only takes care of their own. so if you are redefining an organization as a religious group, a group of people who believe strongly in certain things but who are only relating to people who believe those same things, that is a totally different definition of what religious life is all about. >> father, you heard the vice president during the vice presidential debate. paul ryan said there is no mandate. and this -- there are religious exemptions and you don't have to worry about it. >> it was either a bold faced lie or shocking ignorance. the very next day that the bishops and the catholic church of the united states came out with a statement word for word what he said and they said this is not true. >> father jonathan, correct me if i am wrong, many catholic employers, for example, are basically serve as their own insurance companies for their own employees that's call self-insured. >> that's right. >> those organizations are not exempt, the administration says says these group are but they are not they serve insurers. >> that's true. dozens of dozens of organizations but small business owners are suing the fall go. now saying listen, you are much telling us what we have to do in relationship to our faith? sorry, guys, not going to happen hobby lobby down south sun with one of the numerous ones doing that. camel's nose under the tent. today the administration says you have got to pay for contraceptives and first dollar coverage which isn't covered for much. that is pretty rare that there is first dollar coverage for any medical expense. what could happen after that. first its contraceptives. >> if the health and human torgs red wine is good tore the heart and dave knows that. >> i know it. >> exactly. the red wine is good for the heart. and someone, for example, like a mormon who says i don't drink alcohol said actually, i don't want to drink red wine. no, no, it's very important for tote that you drink red line because we're going to have to pay for it eventually if you don't. do we want the government to say you have to drink red win? >> maybe. >> a lot of you putting things in my terms. >> i knew you would understand. great to he sue, happy sunday. you are off know right? coming up on the show, we have a big lineup for you are this morning the oma'am administration chris wallace at the top of the hour. >> dana perino up early for us. there she is right now. she will talk to us lart about the latest fallout. thanks so much. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's time for medicare open enrollment. are you ready? 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if the state department was hand ling this how would the white house have received this information? >> you would think so. there is always word for humaners orbreak judge in many system instead of looking at party lynns tailor issa is do as oversight and that's what he is doing. i do believe if the white house operation apparatus and the president himself if they had had this to do all over again it would not look the same way. i don't think that they intended to get themselves wrapped up into all of this once so deep it's is hard to imeft first thing we should say on that day day we don't know wanted what. those are uncomfortable timessenned a hours when you have many part-time clam poring for information. >> dent you at this the american public understands that? ment things are still untelling all our embassies are being pretty much, flag was being torn down. earn pleble would have about win and wanted crisis situation government or private sector if the communications is we're working on it, we're on top of it, we're trying to figure it out. we understand why you are asking. we're asking a lot of questions ourselves. we will get back to you. instead they pushed the story about the video over and over again. all of their different stories don't line up. so you are left with as american saying wait eakd is. we have paid so much money and time and fresh to reset intelligence community so that we knew better and better coordinated amongst one another. we can't even get our stories straight coming out of it. >> monday night the big debate. foreign policy debate front page of the "new york times" this morning we talked about it on the show iran. this is suddenly coming into the head lynns again. do you think this is going to be trouble for the obama administration as it relates to these one-on-one negotiations with tehran that they would withhold part of their nuclear enrichment program until after the election? >> in exchange for the loosening of the sanctions what. >> a story in the "new york times" foreign policy is not to be taken lightly. the white house said this report is untrue. called the tt plugs 1 going to be talking with them. we are not going it have these one-on-one negative beg i.r.s. there is a pretty high bar. >> >> what do you think this is all about? trying to make the president look like he is strong ahead of the debate? >> in someone in the national security world weather it will be a political aploilee or civil of course if they believe this helps president obama in some of these swing states i think they are badly mistaken. which is why they tried to quickly put out the fire. >> the optics could be very bad. look like you are can a pitted late and weak. >> i did think, thoovment it could be that the iranians with a wink and a not are trying to get -- you know the administration into some sort of response who knows what's going on in the back channel. the sanctions are good. they are tight. but think are not enough. what we need is regime change this hopefully it could come much across from the inside. >> piranha knows the white house better than anyone. >> on at 5:00 tonight for a five because i'm so tired. >> lock day. look for you tonight. >> more "fox & friends" 4g lte is the fastest. so, which supeast 4g lte service would yochoose, based on this chart ? 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more on the libyan fall out ahead. >> and foreign policy will be the focus of the third and final faceoff between the two presidential candidates. mitt romney is seeing a surge in recent polls so is the benghazi controversy hurting the president and boosting romney? chris wallace will weigh in on that straight ahead. >> all right. will you bet's get back to -- all right but let's get back to fox news alert we were telling you about. george mcgovern has passed away. a decorated world war ii pilot. a staunch owe opponent of in the vietnam war he ran for president losing to president nixon in one of the biggest landslides in modern history. mcgovern died this morning he was surrounded by his family and friends in sioux sue south dakota. he was 90 years old. go to michigan where there is a warning for driver there. cops say there have been 16 reports of someone shooting a weapon from a dark color at oncoming traffic. this happened in livingston counties and also lion township. no one has been hurt so far. there has been a number of very close calls. this has sparked major fears of a repeat of the 2002 sniper shootings in washington, d.c. >> the sniper implies, you know, i think, to most people, skill and accuracy. this, you know, at first blush, looks like somebody that's randomly shooting at people in cars. >> some folks are keeping their folks home from school now in order to keep them off the roads. a deadly are revenge attack by e taliban in afghanistan. insurgents killing the children of an afghan police officer because he refused to join their ranks. well, the officer's 9-year-old daughter and 18-year-old son were outside their home when they were gunned down. despite the vicious attack, the officer says that he will continue police work for the sake of his country. this comes two weeks after the taliban shot a 14-year-old pakistani girl in the head because she was an advocate for girl's education. she is now recovering at a british hospital. finally, overnight in vatican city. pope den district 16th just named seven people to the catholic church's highest honor saint hood. ♪ >> well, you can see it there thousands gathering in st. peters square to attend the mass ceremony. among the saints are two american women. okay. bear with me on this imthat. god bless you for doing that. >> sorry about that. >> i will handle this one. maria molina. >> that's good. >> >> rick: mouth with a check of the weather. >> hi maria. >> good morning good to be with you. good morning, everyone. today we are looking at very warm temperatures out across the center of the country. take a look at some of these highs 90 degrees in san antonino, well above average for this time of year. 89 in dallas. really feel the heat. enjoy it while you have got it you will be noticing a big cooldown out across places like oklahoma and kansas and northern parts of texas. going to start to feel more like what it should be like this time of the year. across the east beautiful day expnd. sunshine across the southeast even down into florida. we have been seeing a lot of rain. fortunately we will see a lot of sunshine today and temperatures near average 84 in tampa. looking very quiet out across most of the country today. southeast dry. center of the country dry. except for northeast areas. across parts of upstake new york. showers across the great lakes. not a huge deal not go going to be purchase of a damper. we have snow along the cascades, slippery travel out here and that traffic reflecting northern ports of the rockies. vef as we head holding up higher ed he elevations so we do have a winter storm warning in effect across northern california for the sierras, looking good for anybody that likes to do skiing out here. >> skiing. >> you are a big skier, right? >> i love it i'm ready. >> even with your bad back little man. >> i'm teaching my 3-year-old to ski this year. i have some serious news now. >> 16 days until the election. less than 36 hours from this final debate. and obviously foreign policy will be front and center and what happened in libya? hopefully we will get some answers of that debated tomorrow night because we now know this. there was unmanned drone above the scene in benghazi actually took in the final few hours of the attack. >> talked to mike baker on the show earlier in the show. we should have done everything because as we have an eye on the sky a drone watching what sun folding on the ground a military could have been dispatched very quickly. listen. >> we should have done everything humanly possible even though we didn't have a contingency plan apparently. even though we didn't have immediately available rapid response team, what should have happened was the military should have just been unleashed. said do whatever is possible. get any resources available there immediately. whether it's air assets or whether it's personnel on the ground. ened a, yes, it's chaotic and yes, there wasn't clear incite into the extent of the problem. you didn't know where the movements where going but just do whatever is possible. >> could what it takes to get anybody on the growntd. we have irspecial forces in gentleman beauty. they have a big operation there. african command i think it is called. >> part of this report is there was a team ready in italy within an hour flight to get there very very quick little. somebody turned him to have e he was saying in that window of dism rkt something could have happened, itch. >> talking about a six year period once the bullets started flying you know there is a problem. there was multiple capabilities within a half an hour to an hour flight within the frame of reference here. they could have had fast team. i have been told by several folks that we had a team on stand by in italy ready to go. no one gave the word. why? i hear the film on this is damning. some people have told me what's on that, it is really really bad. >> would we understand about this is there may have been something else happening atal location in benghazi i have got to be honest with you no one has reported yet. there was something, a greater effort being made, perhaps some arms sales that were happening with our own people. this is yet to come out. but, look, tomorrow night is the debate. it's up to the president to try to make this one off mistake or the wrong phrasing and it's up to mitt romney to make this part of the foreign policy as a whole you get lost in semantics and drones mitt romney missed a real opportunity to. >> dropped the football we had u.s. personnel killed over there. folks asking for more security or even security that had been on the ground to remain. that didn't happen. as a result, these people were killed. to dave's point about the larger narrative. huckabee talking about this on the show this is what he should have talked about. not getting into the act of terrorism phrase because no one cares about that. whether this is a larger foreign policy narrative. buck mckean talking about this as the coverup being worse than the incident itself. listen. >> they ought to just get out there. they ought to tell everything they know. you know, usually all of the problems that erupt in washington, the when there is coverup it's always worse than the incident itself. they ought to come clean, tell us what happened. admit that mistakes were made and make corrections for the future. because this is going to be a bigger and deeper hole that they are digging. >> of course now we are hearing that the cia knew this was a terror attack in the hours after the attack. let washington know that but despite that washington allowed susan rice to go out on all the sunday talk shows and say it was otherwise. >> that was based on cia talking points. >> getting much more information. very different stories here. >> chris wallace. political implications of all of this. >> still ahead. remembering former south dakota senator and presidential candidate george mcgovern. he died early sunday morning. look at his political career coming up. >> what is behind the recent surge in the polls? 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>> well, i think the direction is clear. it certainly is moving in romney's way. certainly has moved in his direction since the first debate where romney did so well and everybody now agrees obama did poorly. that poll though doestand out. stands out so much that we're going to have the head of gallup on our show at the top of the hour frank newport to talk to him about it. that says romney is a 6 point lead. all polls show obama in with a slight lead or romney with a slide lead in the real clear politics average it's a dead heat. it's 47.1 to 47. >> it's a weird anomaly because 18 other pollsters have more consistent number than gallup is the outlier there. swing state polls are also interesting, chris, because you have now according to rasmussen and we will have scott rasmussen on in just an hour with the brand new very latest polls 50% to president obama 46%. that is trouble. >> well, that certainly is as i say, the trend is consistent. now, there are a lot of other polls that show it's much closer in the swing state. so, you know, you just don't quite know what's right. clearly, romney has closed the gap. nationally, and closed the gap in he key swick states. probably taken the plead in florida according to the latest fox news poll. closed the gap. still trailing in ohio but by a very narrow margin. i think what's clear is this is going to be right down to the wire and probably going to be to be a turn out battle who can get their voters to actually go out and vote either in early voting or election day, the persuadables and there seems to be very little bump either way from the second debate. most people have made up their minds who he theyer going to be for. >> at lo of he cans on benghazi and capitol hill asking for letters. darrell issa calling for more information. what do you guys have going on. >> beg debate tomorrow one ever the issues will be libby first of all what the administration did or didn't do beforehand. obviously they didn't do enough to protect these four americans who were killed in benghazi. secondly shifting stories about what happened after the attack. we're going to have a debate of our own today between lindsey graham, republic of south carolina who has also been sending letters to the white house demanding more answers and as you can see democrat dick durbin the number two democrat in the senate. so, it should be an interesting preview. they may do better than the two candidates tomorrow. >> that's a good point, chris. because can mitt romney get lost in semantics? how does he make a big picture foreign policy narrative argument tomorrow night? >> well, he got in trouble clearly when he started getting into what exactly the president said or didn't say in the rose garden. the day after. i think he needs to make it more about leadership. more about transparency. less about a specific statement that was made on a specific day. you know, and i think that's the key, my guess is he is lucky to get a second chance at the libyan issue tomorrow and my guess is he will probably do more. we know we are probably going to hear about it monday night on the debate. front page of the "new york times" today. and heard about it on the couch. dana perino talking about the significance of it this morning. what do you make about the significance of the iran story. >> we will be talking to the two senators at the top of the hour. a story says that says that the u.s. has agreed in principle to one op. one face to face talks about the nuclear program. you know, i don't know how it plays. i don't know how it plays politically instead of one on one talks is the u.s. should be pepght tough sections. we wanted to do it as part of the international coalition the position is we have more power with our allies. if things break down he he will get broke for it. >> the time being of this story is this october surprised coming out two weeks before the election. >> i think you are right on. that's why the administration backed off a little bit and denied anything that was happening there. chris, thank you, looks like a great show. >> a great show coming up today. >> what an awesome "fox news sunday" to be watching. great to see you, chris, thanks. >> thanks, guys. >> to chris wallace to eva longoria. >> she got in trouble for retweeghtd offensive message about mitt romney. should she be forced to step down as obama that's campaign co-chair. we will ask an coal about. because of him the auto industry is still alive. waste that bailout a hefty pay off coming up next. ♪ [ sighs ] [ bird chirps ] [ bird squawks ] ♪ [ bird screeching ] ♪ [ elevator bell dings ] [ sighs ] how mad is she? 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[ male announcer ] make sure america's ready. make sure you're ready. at devry.edu/knowhow. ♪ >> welcome back, 23 minutes past the hour. president obama said his bailout of the auto industry saved detroit when governor romney said we should let detroit go bankrupt. i said we're going to bet on american workers and american auto industry and it's come surging back. i want to do that in industries not just in detroit but all across the country. >> our next guest says it wasn't the auto industry but the auto unions that got a break from president obama. joining us now in syndicated columnist liz peek. nice to see you this morning. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> what do you mean it wasn't the auto industry at large? it was the auto unions that specifically got a bailout. explain. taxpayers are still on the hook for $42 billion for general motors alone. the country spent an enormous amount of money bailing out. i wrote this piece they did go into bankruptcy and it was really the treatment of those companies going through that process that was very different in terms of how obama did it not only in terms of not requiring them to requiring them to take some of the cuts to pensions and benefits truly competitive going forward. saved their benefits, saved their mentions, to the benefit of nonunion workers which was really really against the law basically. >> a couple of things here during the town hall debate. did you think that mitt romney missed an opportunity? he he did touch on that. at the say mr. president they did go through bankruptcy. did he miss an opportunity to drive that home? that's the first question. second question has to do with the systemic failures of the auto industry. what led this problem in the first place. we had a all of the same things that led them to have this collapse in the first place rearing to the unions and potentially advocated in this piece. the "new york times" called let detroit go bankrupt. his title for that op. ed that showed up in the "new york times" was the way forward for the auto industry. and what he was saying is, look, you can't have this -- number one you can't have a huge schism between labor and management. he advocated sensible changes to the way that relationship could go forward. for example, getting rid of the executive jets and getting rid of the sexive dining room. things that you think would be pretty well received by liberals and by president obama. but, you know, what obama did was basically circumvent established bankruptcy proceedings. and secured creditors for example were toast under their agreement. >> you know what the left says and the obama administration says look at ohio. of course president obama up now in polls in ohio. it's getting closer there. they are saying look 88,000 jobs created here in ohio recently. and a lot of them auto jobs. we saved detroit. we saved the american auto worker when mitt romney didn't want to. dink that these facts shake out or does this play out in the election. >> well, look, it's complicated, right? the reason that romney didn't go after that issue in the debate is he doesn't want to get into the weave because is he considered a management guru type and can you get very bogged down in process as opposed to outcome. but but the uncomplicated story is that the uaw wrote the way this industry goes forward. do they -- have they made the structural cuts that really necessary to compete? i don't think so. i think we are going to see that g.m. is losing market share again. the stock is $22 a share to pay back -- to get the government out and to pay back taxpayers. stock has to be around 53. we are not even close to that. the story is not finished i would say. $42 billion is still owed. the cbo says 320 bill -- i guess the question is yes there have been saved are created in the auto stipulated at one it is it sustainable and that part of the story hasn't been written yet. >> mispeak syndicated columnist. check it outonline. great to see you. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> talking about more government waste. talking about shrimp on a tread hill. more government waste and programs you won't believe next. and reading, writing and occupy. wait until you hear what life lessons are being taught to kinder kindergartners at one elementary school. we'll be right back. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. so how did it go? he's upset. 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>> i cannot defend that one. that one is simply crazy. i mean, really. once again, a private company that has the ability to spend its own money in order to build this ache if i -- iraq if aquifer. >> pepsi spends that money on one super bowl commercial. they could do that themselves. $25,000 a grant to construct robot squirrel to answer the question why rattle snakes rarely attack squirrels that wag their tails. >> who says that's waste? all in the eye of beholder. this is not our list. that is good tv. >> who cares about that? that should be like a youtube channel right there. >> oh my. >> that's good stuff. >> that can't be -- all right. $1.2 million to study 39 individuals age 60 to 77 to see how cognitive function responded after playing the world of war craft games not alzheimer's. >> look at war craft: have test subjects stimulate space conditions and rate the food being tested basted on taste and overall health and the mood it puts them in. >> tomko burn thought he was going to do this list once and be done with no there is just gold, just material, end editions of that. a fox news alert now as senator members confirming this morning long time u.s. senator former presidential candidate george mcgovern has passed away in south dakota. a state i once lived they loved him there in south dakota. peter doocy live in d.c. with more on his legacy. >> hi, peter. heather, dave, clayton, senator mcgovern passed away at a:15 this morning. passed away peacefully and they were with him. sent out a statement to say we are blessed to know our father lived a long, successful and productive life advocating for the hungry, being progressive voice for millions and and fighting for piece. he celebrated his 90th birthday this summer. mcgovernor was a decorated fighter pilot during world war ii. he won his senate seat in south dakota by only 597 votes and became the democratic party nominee for president a decade later. >> i love the united states but i love it enough so i want to see some changes made: the american people want to believe in their government. they want to believe in their country. i would like to be one of those that provides the kind of leadership that would help restore that kind of faith. >> mcgovern only won 38% of the popular vote in 1972 and lost to richard nixon 520 to 17 in the electoral college winning only massachusetts and the district of columbia. during the campaign mcgovern had to drop his running mate senator thomas eagleton after it was revealed that eagleton underwent electroshock therapy for depression. the two ran on platform pushing for withdraw from vietnam. >> the first time i spoke against vietnam recollect my son was then 9 years old. he is now 19 and faced with the draft. it never occurred to me when i started speaking out against that war that it would come day catch my own son 10 years later. >> more recently mcgovern endorsed hillary clinton for the being democratic nomination but changed his mind and backed barack obama and told the ap in 2009 obama's win would be a victory for moderate liberalism. he passed away today in sioux falls south dakota. back to you. >> peter doocy, thanks so much. let's go tote rest of today's headlines. police believe they have found the body of desmond moses in the ashes of his burned home. moses was wanted for shooting an entire family. killing the father and his 4-year-old son and then critically wounding the mother and two other children. cops say that moses lived at the home at the back of the family's property and was being evicted from it. he reportedly burst into their house and started firing. one child did escape without any injuries. well, apparently american teenagers are drinking less and driving less in the last 10 years. but they still do it. at the still do it 2.4 million times in just about a month. i'm not sure i'm understanding those numbers. i guess it's still doing quite a bit. 2011, 10% of kids ages 16 to 19 reported drinking and driving in 19991. 22% did. car accidents are still the number one cause among teen deaths. and is there now an occupy elementary school? 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[ applause ] >> well, we all remember that one. that was president obama in cairo egypt in 2009 at the time he was promising a new beginning with the muslim world. some critics are arguing that america's credibility has taken a real hit because of the president's so-called appeasement policy. they say the botched response to the attack in libya is further proof that the administration is simply missing the mark on this situation in the middle east. well, joining us now to weigh in on this is fox news legal analyst peter johnson jr. >> good morning, how are you. the middle east is in terrorist flames today. and unfortunately we have become a powerless witness to our own demise and destruction in the middle east in terms of our relationships. they watched them die. this is a first in american history. the intelligence and defense communities in the united states today and around the world must be hanging their head saying why didn't the white house let us act? >> we are hearing now that there was a drone, an unmanned drone overhead, and also that was watching this while this was unfolding. >> watching -- like watching the rise of al qaeda. we are watching the rise of the taliban. let's look at the middle east map and see where al qaeda. the taliban and allied organizations are on the rise. >> peter, is there a country where we have a stronger relationship with four years after president obama. >> no, our relationship have deteriorated. you look at the numbers. the empirical numbers, libya, northern maly, yemen, syria, iraq, lebanon, afghanistan, pakistan. >> let's look at it here. >> the philippines, around the world. al qaeda and it's allied organizations are on the rise. and we saw the rise of the terrorist organization in the death of ambassador stevens and three other great americans. >> not just that, peter. i feel that the propaganda value that so many of these folks have in that region of the world. the idea that we can see people breeching our security gates at embassies and consulates around the world. those countries had the ability to respond. they were supposed to respond. they are supposed to provide security. they didn't think enough of it to do it strongly enough fast enough. >> obviously they are not going to act. now that we get more information why didn't we act? the question becomes. >> talking about libya here. >> not on the coverup. the day of the september 11th attack what time was the president told? we understand that this went to the white house situation room. what time was he told? and what did he do to send troops or assets to save our people in benghazi? if he did nothing, if he did nothing, then that is the shame of america. that becomes the ultimate issue. have we become eyewitnesses eyewitnesses to the attacks on america without any action. >> we're standing by as our americans were killed. >> nothing. our sovereign u.s. territory was breached in some countries. it continues to be. two attacks on the red cross physician. >> is that the u.s. flag being torn down and other flag hoisted over it? not eenough attention paid to that. >> layer after layer and layer. impletion destruction and distrust. what was done, wife were we thostled what was con. the vote investigation and there have so many questions we need to ask on this sunday? did woe trade off this lives of our bamtion and three other americans for that crowd? were we afraid to fire into that crowd from above? were we afraid to take on the militants in that crowd for killing other folks that were on the perimeter? were these people expendable as a part of a middle east foreign policy. were we afraid of inflaming the arab street when we are oso concerned about the resilience of the arab spring? these are the questions we need to ask. >> the question is are we better off than four years ago? >> look at the map country by country. look at 18 of them. >> we have to leave it there. this is something congress is asking questions about. we have not heard. >> it's beyond the -- >> thank you very much. as president and mitt romney get ready for round 3 tomorrow night, brand new numbers you will see those only right here. did you hear the firestorm that actress eva loan longoria sent off. she should the actress now be forced to step down as the obama campaign's co-chair? look who is here. ann coulter. we will ask her next. ♪ if that's the way you want it, baby. then i don't want you around. n . john switched, got an agent, and saved $263.00! drivers who switched to allstate saved an average of $375 a year on car insurance. and allstate will send you two bonus checks a year every year you stay accident free with our safe driving bonus. when i switched to allstate my savings amounted to $436 a year. when i switched from my old insurance company to allstate i saved over $800 a year. 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>> let's ask the actor mug. a retweet is not your words, you are essentially reposting someone else's words. but, they become your own when you put them up once again when you retweet them. >> it appears to be endorsement. >> what would be the outrage be if you were a conservative? what if you did the same thing for example about a democrat. >> i think the outrage would be if it were exactly the she on the other foot that mitt romney had air head actress as campaign co-chair. i'm assuming this is honor wrear position. give me eak bra. it shows how superficial obama is with all these celebrity. one of the things i like the most about romney. he is a multiple, multiple millionaire. i don't think he he is quite a billionaire. if he wanted to be hanging out in the hamptons or hollywood or hanging out with air head actresses he could. obviously he does not want to. >> first of all he wouldn't put them as a campaign co-chair in the first place if you said something lake, this what kind of backlash would you face. >> much like stacy dash did for forcing that she vote romney. that's the other point that liberals are repeatedly they pretend they are against bullying. they are always the biggest bullies of all. they disagree with someone. the instant reaction is if you are a public figure to investigate your personal life and find out if you are in to s and m. if you are not a public figure to call you names as happens here. >> you have never faced criticism. >> she has never blast liberals or labeled them. >> she is not a co-chair thankfully. >> here is what ava responded with. she actually then tweeted because she was surprised that all of this controversy. here is what she wrote on her twitter page. is anyone else's twitter bugging out? there are things in my time line i didn't retweet today. hmmmm stand by trying to fix. >> sounds like anthony weiner. >> i was about to say does this sound like anthony weiner my account was hacked. all kinds of hanging going on out there? >> no. that may be the worst thing of all pretending that her twitter feed sent it out by accident. shades of anthony weiner. >> how is mitt romney going to do tomorrow night what does he need to emphasize. >> he will do wonderfully. is he very smart. he prepares. that's why he is also going to make a great president by the way. one thing i would say to him is not ton put off biobam maps fake indignation. wherever a democrat says how dare you, it's like bill clinton how dare you i did not have sex with that woman. obama is vulnerable on libya. >> don't get gun shy the way he was staring him down. >> the rare suggestion. >> could i say something quick about that before you go. >> we have 30 seconds, go ahead. i think that was intentional on mitt romney's part to turn it into a big story. avoiding the romney. act of terror rose garden he knew he would provoke a fight and trick the "new york times" in covering the murder of our ambassador and the coverup for the next two weeks. >> that's a lot. >> thank you. brand new polls from scott rasmussen showing us where this race is headed six days out are next. >> that's coming up. ♪ you say ♪ flip it over and replay ♪ we'll make everything okay ♪ walk together the right way ♪ do, do, do, do so, which supeast 4g lte service would yochoose, based on this chart ? don't rush into it, i'm not looking for the fastest answer. obviously verizon. okay, i have a different chart. going that way, does that make a difference ? look at verizon. it's so much more than the other ones. so what if we just changed the format altogether ? isn't that the exact same thing ? it's pretty clear. still sticking with verizon. verizon. more 4g lte coverage than all other networks combined. . >> good morning to you. it's sunday, october the 21st. calls for help falling on deaf ears. there are new reports on an unmanned drone that was sent to the scene of the deadly libya terror attacks just hours after the attack started but here's the question a lot of people are asking. why wasn't the military sent in? what happened? it's been three years but the obama administration still is calling the fort hood massacre, quote, workplace violence instead of what it really is, a terror attack. one police officer who was there has had enough. she joins us ahead. we're just 16 days away from the election but we're only seconds away, we're only seconds away, set your egg timer, from scott rasmussen and his new presidential polls. bear in mind, these are the first polls post second debate with comprehensive numbers. "fox & friends" hour four starts now. flip the egg timer. [ music ] >> good morning, guys. i love my egg timer. that, by the way, is my favorite little kitchen instrument. >> i was going to ask. does anyone use an egg timer tiy more or an iphone? >> that an the ab cuss are your two favorite instruments. >> that works well when your kids go to the naughty corner. >> peter, you might be in the naughty corner, be a good boy. >> thanks for being here. >> the election is 16 days away. we're two weeks from tuesday and the big debate, the final debate on foreign policy, less than 36 hours away. that will be crucial. obviously benghazi will be the central issue, the middle east is the first and second topic in this debate. now, certainly expect them to craft in the economy into foreign policy but clayton, benghazi's going to be the biggest topic and how they handle it. >> and certainly overnight one of the big headlines we're covering this morning on the show if you're just waking up is new information about a drone. a drone overhead of the benghazi attack watching this thing unfold at the alert portion of this fire fight for about six hours. so now we know there was an eye in the sky and no military response. we had mike bakerr, a former cia operative on the show earlier this morning saying we blu blew. >> we should have done everything humanly possible, even though we didn't have a contingency plan, apparently, even though we debit have an immediately available rapped rad response team. the military should have just been unleashed and do whatever is possible, get any resources available there immediately, whether it's air assets or whether it's personnel on the ground and yes, it's chaotic, and yes, there wasn't clear insight into the extent of the problem. you didn't really know where the movements were going, but just do whatever is possible. >> you know that our military guys were raring to go if they were giving that go-ahead. apparently we're hearing that there were people who were poised to go, stationed in italy. >> right. >> we have u.s. assets in the horn of africa. >> we're being told off the record there was an fbi team ready to go get straight in there and investigate. it appears they may have been called off. there were reports. >> for security reasons. >> it was too hot for the f.b.i. there are some who were telling us it was not. they were called off for some reason. a lot will come out tomorrow night in this debate, we hope, in the big picture. >> i hope they also address some questions about iraq and also about afghanistan and the growing problems there. that didn't make it in the last debate. >> that's a great point. we are at war in afghanistan. we still have tens of thousands of men and women fighting a war in afghanistan. let's hope that gets some discussion on monday night. >> that's a real mess, certainly. we have some other news to bring you this morning, other news making headlines. a warning for drivers in the state of michigan. cops say that there have been 16 reports of som someone shootinga gun from a dark car at oncoming traffic. this happening in wicke wick lin county no one has been hurt, but there are a number of close calls. it's sparking fears of the repeat of the 2002 sniper shootings in washington, dc. >> a sniper implies, i think, to most people skill and accuracy. this, you know, at first blush looks like somebody that's randomly shooting at people in cars. >> some folks are keeping their kids home from school in order to keep them off the roads. a deadly revenge attack by the taliban in afghanistan. insurgents killing the children of an afghan police officer because he refused to join the insurgency. the officer's 9-year-old daughter and 18-year-old son were outside their home when they were gunned down. despite the vicious attack, that officer says he will continue working for the police for the sake of his country. well, of course, remember this one. it comes two weeks after that 14-year-old girl in pakistan was shot by the taliban. she was a big advocate for young girls education and she's now recovering in a british hospital. emergency crews spending hours searching a plane at los s angeles international airport after someone phoned in a bomb threat. the bomb squad didn't find anything on board the united airlines flight. they're looking for the person who made the phony threat. the l.a. times reports the plane was bound for london. an indiana school district barring youth pastors from lunch rooms after the aclu threatened to sue. a parent complained about the southwest allen county district allowing a pastor to talk to students during their lunch how hour. the aclu claims the visit violate the constitution. those are your headlines six minutes after the hour. thank you, heather. we have breaking news now. new poll numbers we promised you are out, so what will this mean just a day before the final presidential debate? pollster scott rasmussen has the breaking details, and he joins us now. scott, we had you on. >> christmas for clayton. >> i get excited about these. >> about numbers. >> we spoke last weekend, and i said hey, scott, how long will it take us to get really a strong sense of how the last debate played out. you said about a week. it's been about a week. >> that's right. >> how does it look this morning? >> well, let's set the stage from where we were last week. on the morning of the second debate, president obama was trailing by two points, 49% to 47%. everybody said he had a better debate on that monday night. the numbers this morning, mitt romney 49%, president obama 47%. totally unchanged because of that debate. now, i think if you're president obama, you have to feel good because you stopped the slide in the polls, but you haven't turned things around yet. >> so okay. so then that is good news for president obama, and the obama campaign. they stopped the slide. now the next step for them is they have to try to he are gain some of that ground and maybe they can do that on monday night, i suppose. >> that's what they're going to try to do and consistently throughout the president's time in office, he has done better in his ratings on foreign policy than he did on economic policy. that's tomorrow night's subject, 46% of voters right now saying the president is doing a good job handling foreign policy. 39% rate his performance as poor. when we get to the specifics, though, of what happened in libya, just 35% give the obama administration good marks. that's down nine points over the last week or so. >> scott, talk to us a bit about the swing state polls giving romney 50%, obama 46%. talk to us about that. >> yeah. we have been tracking daily 11 swing states. these are all states that president obama won four years ago. they include all the states that get talked about in this campaign from florida and ohio to even michigan and pennsylvania. right now mitt romney is doing a little bit better, just barely better. that's a big change from early in the campaign. president obama seemed to have built a little bit of a fortress in those swing states, and it's now disappearing. >> yeah. that really might be the election you're looking at right there on the screen, florida, ohio, virginia. if it's trending romney's way, where is that coming from? is it the women voters or is it the independence? where are you you seeing the movement? well, certainly in the unaffiliated voters are moving a little more solidly into mitt romney's camp. also republicans very strongly supporting this nominee. there was some concern early in the year that wouldn't happen. another very important demographic are senior citizens. this is a solid romney constituent whe see right now. as the baby boomers approach their retirement years, the number of seniors is growing. >> i've got to ask you about pennsylvania, my home state. we saw paul ryan there yesterday. it raised some eyebrows among pundits. they're saying wait a minute. wasn't pennsylvania written off in favor of the obama camp? >> weeks ago. >> yeah. does it look like something is happening interestingly in pennsylvania? >> well, i think what we're seeing is ever everywhere acrose nation mitt romney is doing better than he was before that first debate. i mean, there's no denying that governor romney made up ground, so we're seeing that show in a place like pennsylvania. at rasmussen reports we still project that as leaning to president obama, but it is much closer than it was a week or two ago. i think it's significant to note paul ryan was in southwestern pennsylvania. may have also been appealing to voters in ohio obviously a state that's very important. >> very close. >> and i guess, scott, that goes to show that the romney campaign is feeling a little more confident that they can go to those places that they wouldn't normally start out at. >> that's right. three states this week shifted in our ratings from tossups to leans romney. those were florida, missouri, and north carolina. the romney campaign is diverting some resources to other places like pennsylvania now. >> very interesting. scott ra rasmussen, always greao see you. we'll await some new polls. hopefully next weekend we'll see how monday's foreign policy debate plays out. great to see you, scott. >> can't wait to see the polls after that. still ahead, the obama administration still calling the fort hood massacre, quote, workplace violence instead of a terror attack. up next we'll hear from a police officer who took bullets that very day to save lives on the fight for justice. plus, she became the youngest woman to head a fortune 500 company this summer, and she also made headlines for saying that she would be back to work within three weeks of giving birth to her baby. amazingly, she beat that deadline. no thanks. i'll stay home as long as i can. we've got that story coming up next. 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[ mini ] yee haw! ...in those fun little biscuits. quarter past the hour now, and they're seeking justice. survivors of the fort hood massacre, and the families of the 13 people who were killed there. they want the government to call the mass shooting a terror attack. so far they're calling it workplace violence and they've continued to do so for three years. the families have released a video to make their case. look at this here. >> the army knew he was in contact. the fbi knew he was in contact all the way from 2005 up to the shooting. he had e-mail messages and conversations. they knew he was in contact with them, and they did nothing. >> she was talking about the u.s. born cleric who was killed in a drone strike in yemen. >> the government has classified the shooting as workplace violence which means survivors are not eligible for the purple heart. families of those who lost their lives cannot receive the same benefits as the families of those killed in combat. >> that's significant. joining us now is a true hero. she helped prevent what could have been an even larger massacre. kimberly munley is a former federal polic police officer crd with bringing the accused shooter, major nidal hasan, down. you were shot three times. kimberly, thanks for joining us. and thank you for your heroic efforts that day. it could have been a whole lot worse. talk with us about the process. you've asked the federal government to consider this a terror attack as opposed to workplace violence. what have you heard from them so far? >> well, we've heard nothing. we actually began this approximately a year ago, and we've heard nothing in response. as of yesterday, the pentagon did make a statement stating that they will not risk the integrity of the court martial proceedings by reclassifying the case right now or this incident right now. they also said that the victims of the fort hood shooting are entitled to the same benefits that any other service member in the united states military, and that is not true. there are two separate programs that are listed in the v.a. manual with the united states government or the united states military, rather. one being the crsc and the other one being the crdp. that is two separate programs for service-related injuries relating to combat or non-combat. >> this was a military base, so these families cannot receive the same death benefits or benefits in general that those in other attacks would be served. interestingly, the critics have said look, this is part of a larger narrative of the obama administration, not wanting to label things terrorism. we just saw what unfolded in libya. we know about the underwear bomber that they called a lone wolf, just a deranged individual. what do you say to that? does this play into some sort of larger narrative from the government not wanting to classify these things as terrorism? >> i think that's very possible. it's hard to fathom o the fact that these are considered lone wolfs or the act of workplace violence when it clearly states in the fbi investigation and the webster report and the joint task terrorism force that they failed to encounter terrorism intelligence and did not act upon these things, so how can something not be terroristic if it's in their counter tell counr intelligence information policies? >> you mentioned something that will be interesting to a lot of folks here, that the survivor of the attacks are ineligible for a purple heart. tell us about that. >> well, the purple heart is just one of many benefits that they're ineligible for. any -- any person who, take, for instance, some that have been medically retired. they received a severance pay, and they cannot even recoup va benefit monthly payments until it equals the amount of the severance pay or any of the individuals that were injured that actually got to stay in and planned to retire from the military. if they received a purple heart for their injury, they are still able to perform their duties and stay in the military and retire, they would also receive those benefits once they decide to retire from the military. >> and this is so personal for you as heather mentioned t mente top. you were shot three times, hit in both legs, your wrist during the gun battle. how has the recovery been for you? has it been made more painful with having to to deal with this garbage? >> my recovery has been, you know, just as difficult as any other that was involved that day, but i focus now, you know, my attention and my energy into getting this mission successful and i won't stop until it is. >> kimberly, i think a lot of our scriewrs will be offended by the notion that this is currently classified as workplace violence. they'll want to know what they can do to help your efforts. what would you recommend? >> first of all, please visit the truth about fort hood.com. we are a coalition of fort hood heroes that have come together to ask any of the general public to write their congressmen or senators and demand and ask for support from them to go to the government and get this reclassified as a terrorist attack. >> i'm sorry. i was just going to thank you and we'll be sure to update our viewers on this. please keep us up to date with your efforts on this, okay? >> thank you. >> kimberly, thank you for your bravery from everybody. coming up on the show, it's the final faceoff. what do president obama and mitt romney need to say tomorrow night to seal the deal for undecided voters and what should they avoid. joe trippi and ed rollins are here to debate that, next. 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what should they try to avoid? let's debate this this morning with the former national campaign director for the 1984 reagan-bush campaign and fox news contributor ed rollins and former campaign manager for howard dean and fox news contributor joe trippi. great to see you both. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> in the last debate, ed, romney clearly dropped the ball, maybe swung and missed whatever sports reference you want to use there regarding benghazi getting lost in semantics. how does he make a big picture argument tomorrow. >> i disagree with you on that. i think he was going down the right path. the president denied in their total denial of terrorism and i think to a certain extent. crowley stepped in and basically tipped it to the president. he was on the right path. he will be formidable tomorrow night. he'll basically press the president very hard on this premise again that because we've killed bin laden, there's no longer terrorism in the world. we had an ambassador killed a month ago and two or three other americans killed. they're still alive and well and we need to basically pursue them wherever they are. >> do you agree with what ed is saying in terms of going down that path, in terms of whether it was labeled terrorism or whether it was not or does he need to make a big picture howd policies are failing type of argument? >> i think it's a waste of time. i think you can argue whether it was part of a war coverup, terrorism. i mean, why the attack happened or how it happened, i mean, at that moment, i don't think that's a winning argument for him because it can be argued the other way. but you know, he needs to get to the bigger issues. why didn't the ambassador have the security detail he should have had? those are the kinds of things that i think are arguments that will work better in a debate setting. i do agree with ed, though. if he lost the point, i think it was with an assist from the moderator in a way that, you know, probably shouldn't have happened. we don't know how that part of the debate would have turned out. >> that is true. so one and two in terms of these topics are the middle east and carvafter ca. they'll get pakisn and afghanistan in the debate. ed, does romney need to fold in the economy in terms of our foreign policy? >> absolutely. i mean, i think the failure here and i'm sure joe will disagree but the failure here is leadership. this team has misled us on the nation and their economy and their options equally as important as the world has changed around us. what's happened in egypt and elsewhere, we've withi been a bystander, not a significant player. to a certain extent it's a mindset of let's declare victory everywhere and get out of all these hot spots. that's not the role of leadership in the world. >> joe, never before have i quoted saturday night live in discussing foreign policy, but seth myers made a joke. he said talking about killing osama bin laden is like saying you won the second season of "american idol". is that going to resonate? was it too long ago? are americans' attention spans too short? does he need to project a former image and not just check off the iraq afghanistan bin laden check list? >> no. look. i think seth myers has always done a good job. i'm a big fan of his on saturday night live, but this is serious stuff. the president is going to talk about his promise to get us out of iraq and we're getting out of iraq and we're withdrawing and pulling down in afghanistan, and yes, he got osama bin laden and two-thirds of al-qaeda, but there's another third still out there. look. i disagree with ed. i mean, the real thing here is not just leadership but there's a trap here. laura ingram has i thought very astutely pointed out that the tougher romney gets in the debate on some of these issues, it's are you going to go back to the bush doctrine? do you want to do this surgically strike to al-qaeda or fight another war, the kind of things that the president has raised again. i think there's a trap here that romney particularly as you're going after women has to be careful about in this debate. >> let's let ed respond. this is a war weary nation, ed. how does he draw a clear distinction between their foreign policies without sounding so hawkish? >> it's an indictment of the failure of leadership. no one wants to go to war again, especially after 11 years in afghanistan, but what you don't want to do is you don't want to lose the advantages and all that effort these great men and women of our country have been fighting for so long. we don't want to pretend that terrorism has gone away. we have to do due diligence. the key thing here is you don't have to yell and scream or what have you. you just have to be very knowledgeable about the subjects and talk about the direction that you'd take the country and how you'd have a strong counterforce. that's what i think the people are looking for. >> i would expect both to talk about the troops they were missing from the last debate. ed rollins, joe trippi, great pleasure having you both on this morning. >> thanks for having us. coming up, we told you the rasmussen poll has mitt romney pulling just ahead of the president. our next guest says the election is very likely to come down to three states. we'll tell you what they are. plus, she became the youngest woman to head a fortune 500 company this summer and also made headlines for saying she would be back to work within three weeks of having a baby. she beat that deadline. that story is coming up. [ music ] where others fail, droid powers through. introducing the new droid razr maxx hd by motorola. now more than ever droid does. 33 minutes after the hour. we're back with a fox news alert. family members confirming that former u.s. senator george mcgovern has died. the 1972 presidential candidate was surrounded by family and friends when he passed away in south dakota in the early morning hours. he was 90 years old. fox news' bret baier takes a look back at mcgovern's life and his legacy. >> i love the united states, but i love it enough so i want to see some changes made. the american people want to believe in their government. they want to believe in their country, and i'd like to be one of those that provides the kind of leadership that would help restore that kind of faith. >> george mcgovern will long be remembered as an orator for peace and the 1972 democratic nominee for president who lost in a disastrous land sliepped to richard nixon. >> if you grow up out in the great plains, you have to live with the idea that next year will be better. >> haling from the plain state of south dakota, mcgovern was a quiet kid who found his voice on the high school debate team. his award winning speeches would serve him well when he was sworn in as a as a united states representative in 1957. he gam became a special assistao president kennedy and focused on kennedy's high priority food for peace program which would operate in more than a dozen countries by the time mcgovern raleft to run for the senate. he won this time, and as a senator, he would become known for his growing contempt for the vietnam war. >> the first time i spoke against vietnam, my son was then nine years old. he's now 19, and he's faced with the draft. it never occurred to me when i started speaking out against that war that it would some day catch my own son ten years later. >> mcgovern voted in favor of the 1964 resolution which essentially authorized military action in vietnam and would regret it bitterly. as the years dragged on, he would become more and more adamant that the solution for vietnam was political and not military. in fact, by 1972, as mcgovern accepted the democratic nomination for president, at 3 a.m. his platform revolved around an appeal of withdrawal from vietnam. >> come home, america. come home to the affirmation that we have a dream. come home to the conviction. >> i knew that we had 75 or 80 million people out there watching the convention during the horseplay time. i was probably lucky if i had two million people watching at 2:30 in the morning. we did very well out in guam, as i recall. we were on in prime time out there. that was about the only place where it was well timed. >> after nixon brutally defeated him in the general election, mcgovern lost his senate reelection bid and left congress in 1981. a failed run for the democratic nomination in '84 saw him return to private life for good. he remained politically relevant as he moved in and out of different think attention and served as an ambassador to the u.n. food program. mcgovern said politics was an act of faith and while he joked his political timing was off, he strove to deepen that spiritual relationship with the country he loved until the day he died. in washington, bret baier, fox news. >> he was 90 years old. we were just talking to ed rollins. he had something interesting to say about it. >> he said he's the man who inspired me to be republican. he was serious. he said exactly what chris wallace said. he said he was a lovabl lovely . i disagree with him politically, but he was a lovely man. >> just like alan combs. let's go to the rest of the headlines. cops say the man who tried abducting a woman in colorado earlier this year might be the same person who kidnapped and murdered 10-year-old jessica ridgeway. in may they say a man grabbed a woman while she was jogging around a lake near jessica's home. at the time he apparently put a chemical soaked rag over her mouth. she was able to get away. that suspect has never been caught. cops have connected the two cases in the hopes of bringing out the new leads in jessica's case. in the meantime, there are also reports that an 8-year-old boy was choked by a man in the same area just two weeks before that jogger attack. no word if the cops have connected that case to jessica's. imagine the horr horrible pf hearing that your 8-year-old child has died and now imagine hearing the horror of hearing doctors tell you they made a mistake and that your child is still alive. the parents of jalen dorcey say their son was pronounced dead in february at mercy hospital in chicago. well, after seeing his eyes moving, they demanded that doctors perform tests. five hours later it was determined that their son was still alive. jalen has a brain condition and now needs to be on a ventilator that was moved while he was declared dead. his parents are now suing the hospital and they worry that his condition may worsen. thank goodness he's alive. yahoo's ceo gave birth to her first baby just two weeks ago and she has kept her word. she's bragging about it. she's back on the job. she promised she would only take a few weeks off to have that baby, and she beat that deadline by quite a bit. she was several months pregnant when she came became the ceo of a fortune 500 country. >> that sets a weird precedent. does that encourage other employees at yahoo to say you know what? my boss only took two weeks off for a baby. she has all kinds of help, nannies. other employees probably don't have the resources she does. >> as the mother of two young children, the time with your baby at home is so important. >> and vital to the development of the child. let's ask maria about the weather. we won't ask her about marissa meyer. temperatures are where they're supposed to be at. we're going to be seeing a high temperature in new york city at 63 degrees. 60 over in cleveland, and on the cool side as well across the carolinas. upper 60s in raleigh, 75 for your high in atlanta. take a look the texas. very warm. 90 for your high in san antonio. 88 in dallas. well above average. florida today is looking pretty good, too. a lot of sunshine, dry weather, and temperatures very pleasant in the 80s. guess what, you guys. tomorrow big night over monday night in boca raton where we have the debate going on. the with, looks beautiful for anyone -- the weather looks beautiful for anyone headed that way. the temperatures should be around 77 degrees around 9 p.m. it looks good. no rain expected out there, at least until tuesday. it looks good for the debate. otherwise if you live in the plains and you're enjoying the warmth, enjoy it while you've got it. we'll see some big time changes. you'll see the jet stream starting to dip southward and start to produce cooler temperatures across the northwest and then eventually by later next week, we're talking thursday, friday, into next weekend. that cooler air continues pushing southward and impact the plains. you're actually going to be looking at temperatures that are below what's typical for this time of year across places in the midwest, central plains, and even across portions of texas. otherwise, rain wise, not looking at much of that across the northeast, down into the southeast. a dry day, lots of sunshine, but we have unsettled weather from the northwest into the upper midwest. guys in the studio? >> thanks, maria. i know clayton was thinking the same thing as me. outdoor debate. is that what you were thinking? >> yeah. >> that would be good, baby. i think security might be a bit of a concern. >> like a boxing match like at the mgm grand. coming up on the show, the main stream media defending the obama administration over its handling of the libya attacks. why are they allowing the deaths of four americans to be taken so lightly. tucker carlson has an opinion and he's going to weigh in on that. only 16 days left until the election. 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[ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >> welcome back. coming tow down to the wire fore presidential election and all eyes on the swinney states. our next guest says there are three states that really matter. the whole election could hinge on them. joining us with a look in his crystal ball is the director of center for politics at the university of virginia. larry, nice to see you this morning. i have to think that you're showing some bias here for your home state of virginia in this swing state poll? >> maybe. i'm a native virginiaan, clayton. you could be correct. there may be some bias, but remember virginia of the three southern states that president obama carried in 2008, virginia was the closest to the national average of all 50 states, and they gave obama the largest margin among the three southern states. so if virginia moves to romney as i think it may be doing, that tells you that north carolina and florida are definitely gone, and they are. they're going to be in romney's column. >> interesting. so let's look at or frame the electoral votes that are up for grabs in these particular states. we have ohio, wisconsin, and virginia. these are the ones that you think are the most important swing states. when you look at the shifting demographics in virginia, there have been some outside of dc largely african-american population in that section. other portions of the state are interesting, but as you pointed out, they went for president obama in the last election. so what wit would change in vira to make it go the way of romney? >> it's the national trend. the fact is this isn't 2008 any more. you don't have a candidate, a republican candidate, who is crippled by an incumbent republican administration that's tied to iraq and an economic collapse. this is a totally different situation where now people are judging obama's performance over the last four years. you know what's interesting, clayton? >> this election became a referendum on the challenger rather than a referendum on the incumbent. now at the end it's moving back to bein being a referendum on te incumbent. that's not necessarily good news for president obama. >> strange election may be the understatement of year, larry. i want to point that out. wisconsin is one of the states you talk about as being one of the most important. why wisconsin? i thought that was going to be in the obama camp. has that shifted or is that totally in play right now? >> it's totally in play, and the reason i picked wisconsin, clayton, and again, i'm not dissing colorado or new hampshire or nevada or any of these other wonderful states that are toss up states. the reason i picked wisconsin is because if mitt romney doesn't carry ohio which is obama's fire wall in the midwest, wisconsin is the key to an alternate path to 270. right now i think because of governor scott walker's strength, because of paul ryan being on the republican ticket and maybe also because there seems to be a bit of a comback for republican senate candidate tommy thompson, this has become very competitive again. it may be like 2000 and 2004 where wisconsin was decided by about 5,000 votes, not like 2008 where it was an obama landslide. >> let's look at your electoral map here. will this thing end in a tie? i though this is the conspiracy theory that we could end up with 269-269. how do you see it this morning. >> it's a close, competitive election. look. you talk to romney people and they'll say the trend is in our direction. we've got it. well, the trend is in their direction. you talk to the obama people and they say we may lose the popular vote in the end, but we've got the electoral college vote. they may. they've got an advantage in the electoral college, but clayton, a fair person, a nonpartisan analyst looks at all the data available today and says it is close and competitive. any close, competitive election could potentially end up with somebody carrying the popular vote and the other candidate carrying the electoral vote or that 269-269 tie, it's only about a 6% chance that it would happen, but clayton, sometime in your lifetime because you're much younger than i am, i'm not going to live to see it, probably, but you're going to live to see a 269-2 69 tie. >> that be would be absolutely fascinating. then maybe the internet would handle -- the senate would handle the picking of the vice-president. i think dogs and cats living together. >> a romney biden medical administration. all you can do is roll your eyes, clayton. >> larry, great to see you with the big three swing state pic we appreciate it. coming up on the show, main stream media defending the obama administration over its handling of the libya attack. why are they allowing the deaths of four americans to be taken so lightly? tucker carlson has an opinion. he's here next to weigh in. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's time for medicare open enrollment. are you ready? time to compare plans and see what's new. you don't have to make changes, but it's good to look. maybe you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ medicare open enrollment. now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. ♪ >> welcome back, everybody. the white house facing more fallout for its handling of the deadly attack in libya, but you may not know it by watching other forms of the media. you wouldn't do that, would you? why do they put defending the obama administration before the loss of american lives? >> joining us now to explain his take is tucker carlson from the daily caller. good morning, tucker. >> good morning. >> why is this getting so little coverage? it's an important story. >> right. this will be a chapter. most of the things we'll debate will be footnotes. it's not getting coverage in much of the media because it hurts president obama. we have a debate tomorrow night on foreign policy, the laugh of the presidential debates. you would think, says the new yor"newyork times", the most influential paper in the world would have a piece explaining to its readers what exactly happened. what do we know about what happened in lib were? there's not one piece in the paper on benghazi this morning. if you go to the political section, there are piece after piece after piece attacking romney's military budget, his voice, they don't like the way he talks. there's not a word in the paper this morning, the sunday "new york times", explaining benghazi. it's a remarkable illustration of what's going on media wide. >> yet there is a lot of coverage including in the "new york times" about iran, and iran supposedly being so crippled by sanctions and wanting to reach out and meet with the united states as a result, seen as a positive story for the obama administration. that's getting a lot of coverage now. >> that's right. this is a story in motion, in flux. it's changing quickly and not exactly clear what happened, but at some point last night the "new york times" posted a story that suggested that iran had agreed to direct talks with the obama white house. this would have been, presumably, something the administration could spin as a victory. the administration came out late last night, a spokesman to say no, that's not true. there may be talks of some kind, but they won't be direct. it's not exactly clear how the "new york times" got that wrong or why, but apparently they did. >> i'm glad this got brought up. there are a lot of people that jumped on the story and said this could actually hurt the obama administration ahead of the debate if they look like they're weak, if they look like they're siding with iran over israel, and look. i actually spoke to ed rollins about it off camera. he said i think romney will bring this up, not obama, because it may actually hurt obama's narrative. what do you think? >> you'll remember back to the 2008 democratic primaries during which then senator hillary clinton used this issue as a cudgel to beat then senator obama over the head with it. i don't think americans want the u.s. president to seem eager to speak directly with iran because they do, as you just suggested, perceive that as weakness. whether or not that played into the times coverage, i don't know. but by the epidemic of the day, we'll know much more. >> tucker, i know you're in d.c. but we're getting information out of the bureau that sources are telling the administration that allies were not briefed ahead of the supposed coming together for a meeting. >> i think the american people want multiple lateral talks if there are any. tucker carlson of the daily caller, always great to have you. >> more "fox & friends" in two minutes. stick around. where others fail, droid powers through. introducing the new droid razr maxx hd by motorola. now more than ever droid does. overmany discounts to thine customers! 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