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you members of the academy. >> jon: we have to say goodbye. a wrap on news watch. thanks to the panel. i'm jon scott. >> >> well, good morning to you, it's sunday, march 14th. we start with a fox news alert. she was accused of being with terrorists, but jihad jane, we learned she might have brain washed her six-year-old child to turn to terror as well. the story coming up. >> a teacher calling a student a loser and writing it all over her homework. did the teacher go too far or was it all a good natured joke? we report you decide. >> i think i got that written on my paper from dave. >> sorry. >> a suspected drunk driver crashes into a car, look at that. >> whoa. >> unbelievable video, hitting a police officer as that officer was checking out a different suspected drunk driver. the crazy story straight ahead is drunk driver that out of control in this country. the slogan from devon, massachusetts, in the morning i use today wake up like a major couch and then i started to watch you three folks on the curvy couch. i like it. >> more of a grouch. >> it's "fox & friends." >> oh, good sunday morning to you, boy, did alisyn camerota take a perfect day to take off. daylight saving and spring forward and we're happy to have you here today. >> midnight when it was 1 a.m. i'll have another hour of sleep. >> we're happy to have you here nonetheless. thank you, so good to be back, thank you. >> and thank you everyone for waking up with us. and ainsley was just talking about, we're learning more details about this second suspect jihad jamie, of course, she doesn't go by that name. jihad jane was the one ewere talking about and, she was arrested by irish authority and she's been released after deep questioning and her parents and family have come forward to reveal remarkable things and scratching our heads how was she released. >> i'm stunned the things we'll reveal to you this morning, you will be shocked this woman, jamie paulen ramirez has been released. it's detroitening. let's hear from christine mott, her mother, the last time she saw her daughter. >> easter week is when she made the-- she said you're not going to like it mom, but i'm converting to islam. you need to become muslim right now he says because christians are going to burn in hell i remember fire. this is what, you know, what she'd gotten herself involved with. >> so september 11th of this year was the last time that we know that they've-- they actually saw each other out in colorado. then of course reportedly went overseas to try to go after this swedish cartoonist, yeah, swedish cartoonist had drawn back in 2007 you'll remember that face of the prophet muhammad on a dog. >> and apparently the conversion is complete because she changed her child's name, waleed, this morning according to the news. >> this is a quote from her stepdad, you might recognize some of the names, the people she was communicating with onlynn. >> when i saw him, zazi, an admitted terrorist on tv i said that's the fool jamie has been talking with. she's been on the line with zazi and also with jihad jane all talking at the same time. the 46-year-old pennsylvania woman who is also part of this plot to kill the swedish cartoonist who made fun of the prophet muhammad. this woman kept some bad friends and apparently trying to convert her son to a terrorist as well, a six-year-old. >> and that was a quote by the father, too, zazi pleaded guilty last month. >> a new york terror plot. >> so all this have was unfolding online, which is remarkable and we saw a picture of her face in a berka and changed her face book profile a little while ago. let's go back to what you were talking about with the son. this is frightening, he's six years old. awes pointed out his name used to be christian and now he's waleed. when the stepfather called him and last spoke to him on the phone he tells him, hey, dad or grandfather, we're building pipes over here like the 4th of july. pipe bombs basically. and he also went on to be trained by his mom to say that they're teaching this baby that all the christians should burn in hell fire. >> and they're teaching this, again, six-year-old kid how to kick, fight, hold a gun, not the typical lessons we want our six-year-olds to be taught and again, this woman was released despite the connections to admitted terrorists, to trying to convert her son to a terrorist, i assume they're watching her with a very scrutinized watch. >> according to irish authorities this morning and according to the new york post this morning irish authorities say even though she's been released charges could still be forth coming, but we hope so. >> this is the headline of the new york post, we'll talk about the story this morning. on to the other headlines this morning, house speaker nancy pelosi is now brushing off republican claims that she doesn't have the votes to pass health care reform. pelosi says she's confident about the bill and quote, excited about where we are. pelosi declined to say when house members would be voting on the health care bill or how many votes that she's secured so far. house democratic leaders are pressing for a vote as early as this week. and we're learning more about a suspected american al-qaeda member's brazen escape attempt in yemen. documents show that sharif mowingbly fooled guards and unshackling him asking them if he could join them in prayer and grabbed the guard's weapon and tried to shoot his way out of the hospital, killing one of the guards, hurting another guard before being captured and mobley is a new jersey native who worked at a nuclear power plant before going over it yemen. was the story of that run away toyota prius all a hoax? well, federal and toyota investigators think so. they were unable to make a prius speed out of control they say as james sikes claimed it did on this california highway. in addition, investigators didn't find any signs that sikes has-- or had applied the brakes at full force during the incident. i don't think that was the highway, it wasn't looking like that. >> a little computer animation. >> yeah, you get what i'm saying. we learn that sikes had a troubled financial past including filing for bankruptcisy in 2007, he says he doesn't want to sue toyota, just wants a new car at this point. we'll keep you posted. henry kissinger was released from a hospital in south korea. he was in the hospital for a day with a stomach problem and said to be recovering at this point. the 86-year-old was in seoul to meet south korea's president and attend a security forum. sarah palin rocks the house and glenn beck kicks off his take back our country tour. during a stop in oklahoma, they slammed president obama for his health care and americans who disagree with the president can make their voices heard during the mid term election. >> the first task is to restore common sense and the real test at the ballot box about 200 days from now, hang on mesh earthquake, happying on! a crowd of 6,000 people attending the ralry. pail palin is a contributor and glenn beck a host on fox. >> tulsa my former home boy. we've got get rick reichmuth to talk about the wind last night, my friend. on the way to work in the first two minutes i saw a boat, a 30-footer blown down the street a tree this big around, knocked over, power lines down knocking streets. >> remarkably, dave's hair did not move. >> that's true, he didn't lie. >> what about the umbrellas. the umbrella graveyard in manhattan right now. >> all over the place. >> everywhere. >> down block as you're driving down the street. i tell you, we had some of the worst wind i've seen in new york city, a wind gust at 75 mile an hour at jfk, that's hurricane force at the airport and in new york city, pushing 60 miles per hour, so, really windy conditions. obviously, that caused all kinds of power outages and take a look at video we have. some of the beaches and oceans nr horrible shape after, or at least the beaches are in horrible shape now, this is in sea bright, new jersey, rescue crews had to come out and help a half million people in the northeast are without power after this, i tell what you, i've been getting reports of all kinds of people rescued from areas of west virginia and virginia upstate new york and we're not done with this storm yet, unfortunately. still had flood watches and warnings, major flooding problems across much of the northeast, this is a storm though, it doesn't look a lot different than yesterday. it's not. the same area of broad pressure in the eastern part of the country and the only difference we're seeing the pummelling across the northeast and into new england and creating heavy wind in areas like boston and by this afternoon, up towards portland, maine. by tonight, still around portland maine, by tomorrow, it begins to weak and little bit and it's windy still across much of the northeast and it's not until about monday night before this entire system is out of here and it's going to take us some time, however, not as bad as we go into today, into this afternoon and tomorrow. here is your temperatures. one thing i want to point out 61 in minneapolis, we're talking about flooding there. that flooding is going to get worse and new reports that the red river in north dakota is upping the forecast for where that water's going to crest, so we'll be dealing with that. >> the problem we had last year around this time? >> it's exactly the problem last year, they had their hundred year, maybe 500 year flood, the red river run, fargo we might be getting a repeat of that. >> what about the airports, sunday, folks are flying. >> noon you're probably going to be riding it off and a rough day in boston and portland. today is a catch up day around new york city, all the airports almost closed down, they weren't closed down, but hardly any flights getting out, but we'll deal with delays from the wind. >> all right, buddy, thank you. you're a loser. >> i know. i just heard it in my ear, actually, loser. >> that's all she said in our ear, loser. >> all in an effort to talk about the next story. >> listen to this, a 6th grader in north carolina had the word loser written on her paper, her assignment, not by a fellow student, but by her teacher. exactly what was put on the paper. minus 20% for a being a loser, that from her professor, rex roland, who's been teaching for 12 years in north carolina. >> he says he was joking, but a mother, as you can imagine of one of the-- of the mother of patty clement says, i'm sorry, the mother is her name is patty clement. she says the teacher should be suspended. listen. >> oh, cute little girl. >> does minus 20% for being a loser. i had wend to the principal in november and dmrand and she said she would put a stop to it, suspend him, make him think about what he has done, the severity of this and this is telling her that you're a loser, you're not going to go anywhere. >> the teacher says he was joking. >> well, okay. this is my thought on this, this little girl we saw her picture she's very young. when you're that young you don't understand. >> 6th grade. >> 6th grade as a girl you go through so many different traumatic events when you're in middle school, you know, you're going through life changes in 6th grade and worried about your perception and what your people are thinking about you at school. a tough age and my other thought, if you're in high school it's a different story, no teacher should ever really write this on a child's paper. in high school you have the one teacher that was the jokester. i remember mine clearly. loved this guy he was my favorite teacher. he might have written something like that and known it was a joke. >> and a lot of students have come out at this middle school in north carolina and said this is our favorite teacher we like how he jokes with us and says things that other teachers wouldn't say. i think that's clearly what the teacher was trying to do, joke around, relate to the students. bad choice of words. never write that on papers. >> it's hard when you hear the news story, that's terrible. the context is interesting. let us know what you think. e-mail us at friends@foxnews.com. >> what's the solution here, apologize, that would be a good message suspend him? >> i don't think you could fire him. >> we've all done things we regret. said things and written things. >> on this show? no. >> of course not. >> coming up, a health care vote could happen in a few days, but massachusetts senator scott brown says there shouldn't even be a vote. >> even now, the president still hasn't gotten the message. somehow the greater the public opposition to the health care bill, the more determined they seem to force it on us anyway. >> is he on to something? a fair and balanced debate is next. >> then millions of people just can't let go of stuff. you know someone who just can't let go of anything. the pack rats. is there help for the hoarders? we are going to 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new super saver four packs. four cups at a great low price. >> entire year has gone to waste. millions of americans have lost their jobs and many more jobs are in danger. even now, the president still hasn't gotten the message. somehow the greater the public opposition to the health care bill, the more determined they seem to force it on us anyway. you know, their attitude shows that washington at its very worst and that the presumption that they know best and they're going to get their way whether the american people like it or not. >> that of course massachusetts senator scott brown pre-claiming that the health care is all a waste. nancy pelosi pretty confident it will pass as early as this week perhaps. and welcome to the show dwieshgs, nice to see you. >> hey, good morning. >> bill, i have it admit i'm a little mystified here, scott brown and you think to yourself right after the election they lose the senate seat in massachusetts and all wise pivoting back to jobs and what happened, seemed like health care was dead and now we're five votes away from this thing passing this week, what's going on. >> and not that they've abandoned jobs. the president and democrats are working jobs and passed one jobs bill, two in the past week, at the same time just because scott brown was elected, big deal they're fot going to walk away from hk reform. this is something that politicia politicians promised for the last 50, 60 years, and health care reform is going to happen and obama will sign it into law and the american people will be better off. >> james t, bill says big deal, scott brown was elected, but he rode in on a wave of discontent presumably about health care. >> well, absolutely he did. and you know, i agree with mr. pest though, the democrats have been after this for 50 or 60 years and he's right they're not going to stop just because the american people have been saying no at every turn. the president has been speaking about this for like about what, over a year, over a hundred speeches and every time he talks about health care the american people yell louder, no, but they have to get this because this is the process-- >>, but to be fair, james, we're start to go see a change in poll numbers and seems like some americans coming back to wanting health care to be fair on the other side of this. but is it fair, bill, to throw away. the president said he'd rather have have his name on this bill than a second term. he's putting his presidency on this. >> it's about time. the american people like any politician who's going to stick to his guns on the right or left by the way and stick to principles. i want to come back, the american people haven't said no to health care. we had an election in 2008, obama was for it, mccain was against it. i seem to remember that obama won that election and again, the american people want the product. what they want is results. they want the process, they want the people, senators to just stop bickering about this and get it done. >> james t. >> you can't say that. >> take a look at some of the numbers here. >> sorry. >> we'll put these on the screen. no votes and yes votes that now likely switched to no votes here and if we're going to pass this thing this week, i can't for the life of me figure out where the votes come from. >> the democrats, this is full bore, this is pressure, back room deals, we're talking about breaking legs and arms and a naked rahm emanuel just, this has been going on and this is what has to get done and take place in order for the democrats to get the bill through and evidence that people don't want it. >> bill final word. >> you know what they call that, they call it hard ball, politics, and-- >> getting results. stop talking. >> hard ball and a naked rahm emanuel, somehow we'll get a-- i don't know how that's going to happen. >> thank you. >> thanks, guys. >> coming up here on the show, high school at the center of a heated battle over prayer. one student wants to stop a class wide prayer at graduation even though most classmates want it. what should happen? we report you decide. plus, extra baggage fees to upgrade fees to paying for snacks. what's your biggest problem with the airlines? is it the messy bathrooms? not with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. so shipping for the chess champ in charleston is the same as shipping for the football phenom in philly? yep. so win! actually, i think yodeserve this. no, i deserve this. wow, got one of those with a mailmann top? priority mail fl rate box shipng starts at $4.95, only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. >> 24 minute past the hour. time for your news by the numbers of the first, 600, that's the number of boeing 737's the f.a.a. wants checked out because of a possible mechanical problem with tail flaps. the usual was raised after one reported severe vibrations mid air and had to make an emergency landing earlier this month. one zillion, i didn't know that was a real number, but environmentalists say chance of seeing the all black penguin. national geographic saw it on a trip. and one in one zillion. and 211.7 million dollars. what a moert winner got watching all the numbers. >> in a high school in indiana, students vote whether they want to prayer at graduation. a majority voted yes, they want the prayer and the valedictorian says absolutely no way and is now suing his school. we're joined by the fox news correspondent, jonathan morris and jennifer, i'll start with you, because the majority of the students voted yes, they want it which is how a democracy works. right. >> but you're saying it violates the supreme court interpretations of the constitution. >> that's right, just because there's a majority vote doesn't mean you can violate the constitution. you can't-- n.y.p.d. can't have the officers vote we can now beat suspects into giving confessions. the constitution is there, precisely because the minority voice is not being protected, that it is constitutional. >> father jonathan, it's tradition. >>dy all of that student government stuff, high school college, student government and the prom is something that students plan, they choose their music, they choose their color scheme, they choose all of these things. if students together decide they want to have a prayer they should be allowed to have a prayer. whether it's a student president who decides against, that's up to them, but the principal of students being able to decide that they want to pray, now, why wouldn't you go after them for choosing bad music? what if i feel totally offended that i don't believe in led zeppelin. >> because the constitution doesn't actually protect your right-- >> the constitution. >> what does the constitution say about religion? it says it shall not establish one religion over another and there should be no, no law passed to prohibit the pre exercise of religion. >> right. >> which sounds to me like free exercise of religion. >> well, it protects the established clause is meant to protect and secure religious liberty. the flip side the right not to have to engage in an act of worship if somebody finds it offensive. it's meant to protect all of us. would you have the same point of view if the student body we want to did an islamic prayer. >> absolutely, if an islam elk community and they want to-- >> absolutely, the majority. >> why is it in this situation and many situations we've seen and covered here at fox news there's one student who has a problem with it and everyone else is punished when the majority want-- first of all, it's not clear that it's one student. that is-- >> it's clear that the majority, majority. >> because like i said before. that's precisely the problem in a recent u.s. supreme court decision that came down in 2000, it was almost an identical policy that was struck down as unconstitutional, and to be established from clause and the u.n. thing the u.s. supreme court said the minority is at the mercy of the majority. that's the problem with it. because those people should not have to choose whether to attend the graduation or run the risk of being personally offended by a religious ritual. >> could they do something like a moment of silence or something like that? >> that gets a little closer, but this is pat tennantly unconstitutional because they're not even proclaiming it has a secular purpose. >> i don't, and this is a sin veer question, i know you do civil liberty laws. why do people get so offended when they hear a prayer, why do they feel like somehow they're being forced to worship. i have eem people in my church, kids not forced to worship, they're listening. >> welling, i mean i don't understand people's personal views on it, but i know what the constitution says. >> and set an iphone up an hour ahead to spring forward. >> the phone did that automatically, i got here early. thank you, 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>> i'm crazy jealous right now. >> caroline, what is going on in washington? we have been talking about health care the past year, but of course, education now taking center stage in d.c., right? >> sure, dave, a bit of a switch. tomorrow, president obama will spend the sweeping new education plan to congress. if he gets his way, no child left behind will be out the window and the measure of success for 100,000 public schools will be completely rewritten. the current law says all students have to perform at grade level. more than a third of schools is failing and aim at bringing the schools up and closing the achievement gap between white students and minorities. the criticism, some states have been lowering their standards with passing grades and the teachers were totally focused on the test as opposed to general learning. here is the main goal for the president's new plan. all students graduating from high school would have to be ready for college or a career by 2020. mr. obama would keep the annual math and reading tests, but also measure things like graduation rates and learning climates and the white house wants an extra 4 billion dollars in education spending, but a group that represents almost a million and a half teachers nationwide hates the proposal. the american federation of teachers appear that from our first review, despite the promising rhetoric this blueprint places 100 responsibilities on teachers and gives them 0% authority. the president is leaving the actual bill writing up to congress. back to you guys. >> could be lessons there in the health care legislation. thanks, caroline, turning over the keys to the kingdom again to congress to allow them to write some of this. we'll have to see how that unfolds and dave continues. yeah, i'm busy, otherwise-- >> guys, you eat i'll tell you the rest of the headlines this morning. more security demanded in southern afghanistan's kandahar province in the wake of deadly bombings there. homicide bombings killed more than 30 people including 10 attending a wedding. they say that the blast showed that insurgents remain a strong force in the region and he's now talking to n.a.t.o. and officials in kabul about getting more afghan troops. afghani officials are blaming for the attacks. dismantled several u.s. backed cyber warfare networks that were reportedly gathering information on nuclear scientists and causing unrest in the country. officials say that the cyber campaign also involved an iranian opposition group seeking to destabilize the islamic ruling system. iran has repeatedly accused the u.s. and brynn of provoking the unrest th. >> both kupts denied that claim. and thousands gathering in san francisco to mourn chelsea king. they gathered in a stadium to honor the honor student. she disappeared after going for a jog in a community park, her body later found in a nearby swamp. there's been an arrest in the case and her parents vow now to protect their children from sexual predators. dramatic dash cam video from kansas city, missouri. officers pulled over a drunk driving when another driver plows into them sending the cars at the over. fortunately, there were no serious injuries. one officer was taken to the hospital with a major leg wound and the other drivers are under arrest face drunk driving charges. incredible. amazing that everyone's okay. >> yeah, that is unbelievable video. let's get now to rick reichmuth. rick, we were talking yesterday via twitter and what not about the umbrella graveyard that is-- took place in new york city. it was quite a show. >> you know, if you have a cheap umbrella they walk inside out and the wind comes at you at different angles at every block and umbrellas littered the sidewalks and streets. >> and there are no cabs, can't get a cab. >> my dust buster. >> what is that. >> cleans up dust on the couch. i tell what you, it was rough. it also brought in cooler air again towards florida so temps dropping for a couple of days, not as cold as it's been, but still a little bit cooler. still watching the storm though and it's bringing very windy conditions and these are the peak gusts. 75 mile an hour at jfk, hurricane force winds. 73 miles an hour in atlantic city, new jersey, the beaches in new jersey, the beaches out across long island took a pummelling from this storm. >> what does-- >> what. >> what will the situation do? do you watch jersey shore. >> i'm not sure snooky. out across parts of the east bringing rain. >> no, no, you're on it. >> uh-huh and j wow, there you go. more rain here, take a look at video out of long island where we saw a lot of flooding, not only do we have the wind, but extreme rain and it caused a lot of problems along the beaches, a lot of coastal flooding, but here in long island, problems in the new york city subways, where people were having a hard time even getting in some of the subway stops, also flooded. here you go no ac or e-train downtown, that's a bummer for me, those are the trains i use. two to three inches across parts of new england, maybe another inch or so by the time we get towards tomorrow night in across areas of new york because the entire system is going to take about two more days before we push it out of here and get the sunshine back, all right, guys. >> thank you, sunshine. if i'd asked you guys out there and you can send the mentals on twitter, facebook or e-mail, or even carrier pigeon. >> or snail mail. >> if you had to pick your biggest bugaboo about airline travel, the thing you hate the most and had to weigh on what that is, what would it be. >> baggage fees and baggage fees and baggage fees. first, second and third. >> dave doesn't like baggage fees, what about you. >> the baggage fees and snacks and picking seats even in coach. >> and every whemingly bags weren't the problem, picking seats, paying extra for extra leg room was the number one problem. and we like these guys, air fare watch dog.com, we had them on, polled 2000 people and that's the biggest problem. >> who are the 2000 people. 25 and $30 a bag by far the worst. >> i agree everyone was mad about that, but we're over that now. >> who is? >> now tacking on extra fees. okay, we can deal with that. >> with the idea with that-- here is why i deal with that. that sort of forces you, we travel like crazy we bring the extra bags and this forces you to be more thoughtful how much space you're bringing on the airplane, right? that's on your personal thing, don't back-- >> you're not going to convince me, man. >> don't pack the extra hair drier, you buy a seat on a plane, you pay a fee, that should be standard. you're going to pay more because you're 6 foot 5. >> because there's more room, more space, first class is more money, why? because it has more room. coach is coach. >> i see what happened, everyone got over the fees of the luggage and now they're tacking on other stuff and we're saying when does it end? i'll tell you the solution, stick with one airline you probably already know this, i'm just learning with this, i stick with one airline and always try to fly with one airline and bumps you up to like an elite status and every time you fly they automatically bump you into first class if there's room and you don't have to pay for bags. >> that's when they look like answersly. >> let us know on foxnews.com and twitter as well. >> you don't have to pay for bags if you do that either. >> we've moved on. >> historians say it's a defining moment in baseball history. deep left, back to the wall-- it's-- the pirates win! . yes, you remember it, clayton? 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>> because he lists his faith. >> how is it writing a book about this ap being a pirates fan and living in yankee territory? >> i didn't get a whole lot of help around the home area here and i did find vern law. not many people get a chance to meet their childhood hero. >> what was that like? >> i'm 56 now when i started to talk to him i was about 50. i acted like i was six years old again. i was star struck and i looked at him. he gave me a baseball, i almost kissed it. >> turned out to be a nice guy. >> a real gentleman. >> a lot of things define this team and this man and not just how he was on the field, but off of it and today, a lot of guys practice or preach a lot of things on the field, but don't practice them off the field. you start each chapter with his words to live by and one is children have more need of models than of critics. >> right. >> did vernon law live-- did he practice what he preached? >> he's one of the few people of whom we can say, yes, he did. there are no steroid scandals, nothing about other women. he wasn't doing anything that he shouldn't have been. i mean, he was a wonderful guy. still is a wonderful guy. yesterday was his 80th birthday, happy birthday, vern. >> oh. >> it's been wonderful. you have to read the book. thank you so much. >> here is the book "kiss it goodbye". >> thank you. >> millions of americans living secret lives living in clutter and we'll talk next to that man how it's affecting every aspect of his life next. >> all right. welcome back here to "fox & friends." imagine this, being buried under piles of stuff in your own home. it's called hoarding and in some cases are extreme. >> i've got a living room here, maybe four years earlier this was functional. last three years it's just been a pile of stuff. but it's a lovely room, a chandelier here, a clear view into the catch, i've got two sophias, you may not know they're there. one is obscured and a second sofa over there. >> you wouldn't know it. well, chris had not allowed anyone into his house in years because of his hoarding problem. until his girlfriend annie came into his house, chris and annie join us now along with dr. rebecca beaten, a licensed psychologist who treated hoard as a disorder. welcome everyone to the show. >> thank you. chris, let me start with you, how in the world did you manage for so long to keep this problem a secret from annie? >> well, this is a behavior that is laced with humility and annie supported me and this is where i am with the program, but if you had that behavior you're not really looking to share with anyone. >> annie, i want to show our audience your reaction when you walked into chris' apartment for the very first time and witnessed what it looked like. take a look. >> oh, my god. oh, chris. wow. >> and that's an authentic reaction, right, annie? >> yes. >> what were you thinking when you saw that? >> well, exactly what i said, i was shocked. >> you were shocked. >> i mean, yeah, i mean, i knew there was some problem, but you could never understand the depth of what really it's all about. i'm still sort of, i don't understand. >> right and i think that's for a lot of americans trying to understand that, but to learn from this show, really, 700,000 to 1.4 million americans, doctor, that the condition, that can really destroy families, right? >> absolutely. >> and so talk about chris' condition specifically. it's a sickness, isn't it? >> it's definitely a sickness and really, it's an organic brain disorder, a lot of people think that it is this fact that somebody's just messy or unsanitary or lazy, but there's definitely very distinct things going on in an individual's brain that makes them different than other people. >> so there's a clinical reaction that makes them want to keep things. >> absolutely. >> and how do you fix that? >> well, it takes a lot of time and that's going to be really important for annie to realize it's not a type of thing somebody can just clean his house and he could restore his life back to normal, whatever that may be. it is that it's going to take several months at least and he does need to be helped with a professional along the way. >> now, chris, we understand the house has been cleaned, you're in therapy though, but has the house gone back to being what we saw in these photos in the video? >> the home has had organization, but i'm still struggling with discarding things and i have people that are helping me and annie is very supportive, very loving. we love one another and i'm going to have to work through this. >> what is it about, annie, what is it about these items that makes chris want to keep them? >> well, i guess i'm not really the one to speak to that. i'm glad to hear what the doctor was saying that i -- i just don't understand it. so, i had more of the attitude which caused-- has caused the conflict with chris and me is that just clean it up. i don't get it, just clean it up. what's the problem. >> that's why the show is so-- >> that's not really the case i guess. >> unfortunately we have to leave it there. that's why this is, the show is so compelling. when the show comes on i'm glued to the screen, i'm addicted to the show, hoarding the show. the show is called hoard i, buried alive at 10 p.m. tonight and chris we hope the best for you and annie in continuing to work through this. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you, clayton and thank you for the support and annie's love to me. thank you. >> and thank you, doctor, we appreciate your help as well. >> appreciate it. >> coming up on the show, flood waters up to people's knees in some cases and thousands of people in the dark as storms pounded the northeast. we're tracking the severe weather. victoria's secret is known for featuring curvy women and now the company is slammed for super skinny models who recently gave birth. why some say it's sending a dangerous message to women everywhere. 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>> no. >> no. >> yeah, i know some hoarders. >> and i received a lot of e-mails this morning about it. check it out online because if you did miss that oh, my god, i'm always-- >> oprah always says that-- >> how do you miss your sofa in a house. >> i think it's more than collecting all the stuff. they're scared to throw things away because they're scared to move forward with their life. >> we are going to move forward with the show now and talk about a developing story, the changing face of terror in this country and it is shocking. the latest reports have the woman, the latest jihad jamie, you may call her and here she is, jamie paulen ramirez, a 31-year-old from colorado swept up as part of a plot to kill a swedish cartoonist who made fun of the prophet muhammad. and she's been released and it may disturbing you when we tell you about the things she associated with and what she maybe doing to her six-year-old son. >> her mother speaking out, worried about not only other daughter, but her grandson now enrolled in this islamic school. this is a sound from the mom, take a listen. >> easter week is when she made the-- she goes you're not going to like it, mom, but i'm converting to islam. you need to, you know, become muslim right now, he says, because christians are going to burn in hell fire. this is what she's gotten herself involved with. >> he asked her what are you going to do strap a bomb on? and she says, if necessary. >> frightening, isn't it? these are the type of things that this woman was saying and apparently even saying them to her kids and we talked about some of her associations and here is what her stepdad. jihad jamie's stepdad said about who she was socialing with online. and when i saw him, zazi, on tv i said that's the fool jamie's been talking with. she was on the line with zazi and also with jihad jane, the 46-year-old from pennsylvania. all talking at the same time and again, this woman has been released despite known associations with admitted terrorists. >> and talking to her son with the most compelling part of the story this morning for me, which is that he's been brain washed and when on the phone with the stepdad said they hadn't talked, but when they had talked, talked about making pipe bombs on the phone. imagine talking to your grandson on the phone and saying, hey, granddad we're over here making pipe bombs, we're making bombs and also i've been told i want christians to burn in hell. another thing he's been taught. >> and the grandfather says-- or grandmother says according to the post that he's learning how to shoot a gun, how to kick and fight and she says we're democrats, we won't even buy him a toy gun. they're upset and the child's name was christian when he lived here and now apparently the mother's changed the name to the islamic name waleed. >> coming up, dr. keith ablow is going to tell us the common thread, the makeup of these people, what turns a person to terrorism, to become an extreme fundamentalist as some of these people have. he'll give us some insight as to these women and the man who was arrested from new jersey. >> let me tell you the rest of the headlines this morning, stunning details about a new jersey terror suspect brazen escape attempt in yemen. documents show that sharif mobley fooled hospital guards to unshackle him, asking if he could join them in prayer. he grabbed a guard's help and tried to shoot his way out of the hospital, killing a guard. he worked in a nuclear power plant and is believed to be a member of al-qaeda. a massive search is underway in virginia for a british college exchange student missing for 12 days now. johnnie dorie was last seen leaving the campus in richmond on march 2nd. he reportedly had a mountain bike, a pack back and a phone with him. his parents traveled to the u.s. to help with the search and the school is offering a $5,000 reward for any information. take a look at his picture. the associated press reporting the two guns used in shootings at the pentagon and a legislation courthouse came from the memphis police and court system. both guns were reportedly once seized in criminal case ins memphis and made their way separately back to the shooters. the gun in the march 4th pentagon attack was sold in december 2008, the gun used in the january 4th courthouse shooting was sold years ago when the proceeds given to the memphis area sheriff's office. it looks like the story about the run away toyota prius was a hoax. in a memo written to congress and toyota and federal investigators say there's now no way that james sikes was stepping on the brakes while his car was allegedly zooming out of control in that california highway. the memo says that whenever investigators put both the gas and brake and gas pedals to the floor. it shuts off. sikes who filed for bankruptcy, says he's not going to sue toyota, he wants a new car. senate majority leader harry reid's wife is out after intensive care unit at a virginia hospital and said to be recovering this morning. after a car accident. she and her daughter were rear-ended by a tractor-trailer on interstate 95 near washington. suffered a broken neck, back and nose and no word when she will be released. >> tired of shovelling your driveway, sick of throwing your back out to do thankless jobs? well, we've got just the thing for you. you're looking at the snow plowing robot. this is right up your alley, clayton, you would like this. >> yeah i wasn't paying attention. six tires navigate the driveway, any of the conditions no matter what they are. battery power, no defensive gas to buy apparently, its headlights can get rid of snow anytime of the night. see i didn't grow up in the north. this would be very helpful. >> 47 inches of snow in pennsylvania. >> no word when it will be made available to the public, we'll keep you posted and your back. >> the people in washington d.c. could use about a thousand of them this year. >> that thing goes fast, get out of the way. we've been talking about umbrellas all morning in snoshg city. take a look at pictures, the montage of the streets of new york. that's the kind of damage you see in new york city along with a couple hundred people without power, but send me your pictures and rick reichmuth at twitter, a lot of significant damage out there from the storm and also want to take a look at video we have and this, i believe, comes to us out of pittsburgh and haven't talked much about pittsburgh. check this out. looks like a water park there completely submerged and swollen rivers are causing major problems in pittsburgh. one of the cities that's going to be affected by the brutal winter we have, the snow melting off the mountain tops steadily moving into the streams and river and threatening to flood several areas and pittsburgh declared a state of emergency in anticipation of the overflowing rivers. extremely rough conditions going on there. windy conditions are going to continue across the northeast today, but mostly going to be now in towards parts of new england and winds will taper off from new york city down towards d.c. today and into tomorrow, but it's still going to be breezy. wind gusting maybe 15 to 30 miles at times and it's going to take us a little bit of time to completely get the storm out of here and take a look at the radar picture. we're still dealing with this, kind of the broad area of low pressure, continuing to bring some scattered showers, a little snow flurries into the highest elevations, but the rain will be heaviest today as you head to the north and looks at the temperatures today. 61 in minneapolis and warm air out there that's going to continue to melt some of that snow across all of these plain sections and that's going to continue to exacerbate the flooding and problems. back to you. >> thank you. listen to the new study women and men can weigh in. a new study say that women naturally feel more guilt in their lives for just about everything that they do. >> yeah. >> do you buy this? >> absolutely, absolutely. and i'll tell you why, i just think, well, we feel guilty about everything because we're just built this way and we feel guilty if we miss our friend's birthday. you feel guilty as a working mom if you're not there for your kids. you're trying to balance it all. >> and we're cold and heartless. >> yes, you are, you are. >> you mention the birthday how they studied this. and break it down and asked men and women if you missed a birthday or an important date your friend knew was important to them. do you feel guilt over it? most the men basically said no. i totally buy this. we just, we kind of move on. when we're at the grocery store and something is not charged for something, my wife can't handle it, go back and pay for it, let's go, they won't miss it. >> if i'm in the grocery store and accidentally knock over something, pick it up and get to the register and realize i don't want to buy the mayonnaise i'll have to go put it back or put it to the lady. can't put it on another shelf. that's true, you think about the women are always, well, shouldn't we bring something to that party, shouldn't we bring bread or a bottle of wine. the guys are, they're friends they don't need us to bring wine to the house. >> the worst is if you don't rsvp to the party and say you're going and don't go. they've paid for you to be there. women are about that and men are-- >> we don't get a chance to go to the party. >> we don't want to disappoint anything. >> and send us your e-mails. on the show, victoria's secret. this is why you were rushing. >> victoria's secret featuring an emaciated model who recently gave birth, are they promoting a dangerous message here. >> and folks in cleveland scanning the sky. they saw it multiple nights. the ufo, is it a pending visit or military? 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i have two guests with me, katherine shuler, a former plus sized model and jeffrey lieberman, professor and chairman of psychiatry at columbia university. i just covered fashion week this week and one of the surprising things i discovered models, some of them actually eat cotton balls in olive oil to fill themselves up. what sort of pressures were you under. >> i haven't heard that, but the lettuce and you know, the diet sodas, and smoking, it just goes on and on and i was under pressure, but i went to the plus side industry because i wasn't giving myself an eating disorder. so that was just the way i handled it and so as a size 14/16 i worked all the time and that was great for me because that was my mission to teach women, you could be beautiful, there's another standard out there, and the women in this country are 63 million women who are full figured and that's a majority of the women so to show these images of painfully thin women and next to two, you know, kind of super sized, supermodels who are plus size is like an atrocity. >> well, i asked designers, michael coors, carolina herrera, they're keeping the average woman's size in mind when they design their line and yet, when you watch the show the models are so skinny. >> exactly. >> do you think we'll ever see an average sized woman on the runway? >> yes, i do. i'm happy that europe has now passed this law that the bmi has to be 20 or 25 and the model has to produce a document that her doctor has you know, gives her and that's where we need to be so that italian government has had it with anorexia, they will not condone it anymore because they feel it's unhealthy and damaging psychically, i'm sure jeffrey, would agree to most women. i heard a statistic if you look at victoria's secret or any kind of catalog or any magazine for 20 minutes you're depressed for four hours afterwards. >> i have a statement from alexander umbrosia. i'm a they will think size two. i am a small frame. some are bigger and some are small are and some bigger, but we are all healthy. i raise my daughter to be healthy as well and will always take care of myself to be a role model. she has great genetics. but this is so unattainable for women in america. what message is it sending when we see the pictures? >> unfortunately this is what has become a consistent pattern in our culture aided and abetted by the media to portray a narrow and unattainable ideal for majority of people of in terms of what beauty and physical body type is and the people who are most vulnerable to this are women and particularly young women in their adolescents and young adulthood and childhood. within this group, a certain proportion of them are constitutionally or genetically for eating disorders anorexia or bulimia, bingeing and purging. and given cues to get to develop these orders. >> what can parents do to talk to kids and n-preventing this from happening and discussing why they're so thin? 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>> well, look, there are a couple of points i guess i would make. one is of course he was a former congressman from illinois. he and barack obama were very close and now, he is as you mentioned in the obama cabinet, as the secretary of transportation. so if he's going to write an article like this you know he is going to support the president's plan and the argument, you know was an argument that they make, there may not be any republican votes for this plan, but there are some republican ideas in it. >> well, i'm sorry, i'm mystified about this, chris, you're in the trenches and you have to hear these guys talking and it seems like we're hearing nine votes, five votes, the president cancels his trip to asia and moves it back a bit. what's your sense down there reading the tea leaves? where are the votes coming from? >> well, it's real simple because it only passed by a couple of votes, i think, two votes back in november. we know now that bart stupak and a couple of the other pro-lifers are going to vote against it because the senate bill is less restrictive on the question of federal funds being used for abortion. that means they have to get some of the no votes, the people that voted against it last november to vote yes. now, there are a few members of congress since then who have announced they're retiring, they don't have to fear reelection and maybe gotten some of them to say it. maybe just some of the blue dogs, conservative democrats. according to the latest fox news vote count, vote tally, we don't have the majority up there, about five vote shorts, but we don't know how many votes the speaker and president obama have in their back pocket. >> no one seems to be counting nancy pelosi out. i'm sure that will come up on your show today. robert gibbs is on and he actually tweeted about this ray lahood article just the other day so i'm sure you'll talk a lot of health care today. >> well, we are going to be talking-- our green room looks like a political convention, robert gibbs, the current press secretary. dana perino, the former press secretary. we've got karl rove. we've got a couple of key congressmen, chris van holland and the number two republican eric cantor. we've got john fadesta, head of the obama transition, maybe we could solve health care just in that green room today. >> you have a got your own cabinet down there in washington. >> i'm telling you it's going to be a wild show, you've got to watch. you've got to ask robert gibbs about wearing the canadian hockey jersey and take it go off and wearing the u.s. hockey jersey as well. >> trust me, that's going to come up. >> thank you, chris. >> curious to find out how the republicans react to lahood's comment. >> one thing i want today ask chris, but we ran out of time. one of the ideas in the republican health care bill allowing americans to buy insurance over state lines and i'm cure why to see what gibbs has to say about that. >> he's saying 40 million americans are without health care coverage. that's an inflated number though. >> a couple-- >> a couple of different numbers. >> 36 million. >> 40 million way hey. >> 35% of americans know that. >> and 100% of you are getting headlines now. >> now it's your headlines. did the cia test lsd in city subways, a declassified report gives support to that claim that the cia did this as part of a cold war-- and a scientists jumped to his death from the building and he had been dosed with the lsd days earlier. a snowmobile rally turns tragic in canada after a massive avalanche. at least three snowmobilers are dead. many more missing. at least 12 others were injured. about 200 snowmobilers were gathered for a big iron shootout rally in the mountains here revelstoke british columbia when that avalanche hit. the google is saying goodbye, 99.9% sure it's closing its chinese search engine after talks over censorship broke down. the chinese government recently warned google it will have to bear the consequences unless it follows chinese law regarding censorship. a german artist spins the last three years travelling the globe using, get this, legos to fix walls and monuments. look at the video, the pictures. wow. well, he's gone around the globe repairing crumbling walls using the popular building blocks. he says that he's performed his handy work at ten cities around the world from tel aviv to right here in new york city. did you ever play with leggo's guys? >> absolutely. here in bryant park i'd love to speak to him. let's talk sports in the meantime. tell you one of my favorite sports days of the year, it's selection sunday. we could hold tournament games are as entertaining as the big east final between georgetown and west virginia, an outstanding game. less than ten seconds remaining, game tied at 58. the new mr. clutch in college hoops, boy, talk about ramming through a health care bill. that's ramming through a clutch bucket. deshon butler hitting a tough runner in the main. mountain ears up. and back the other way. chris weight tries to tie it no dice. they loved the health care reference from that sports highlight. west virginia wins its first ever big east championship. and today acc final, sec final and big ten final should be a great day. kansas locked up the number one overall seat with their win in the big 12. >> let's check with rick reichmuth now and check the crazy weather. >> does that come to you naturally? >> well, i saw it at about six o'clock this morning and ramming through came right to mind and ramming through health care, i don't know. >> there's a lot that goes on up here, mike. >> trying to get in the mind after sports guy. i like it, also what about the pies behind me we can't get rid of. >> key lime, thank you, morton's. >> all kind of flooding concerns that we still have across parts of the northeast from the very heavy rain and the rapid snow melt. all of these counts here in dark green have flood warnings going on. take a look at video, af been talking the last couple of weeks about the flooding we are going to be seeing in fargo, this is out of the red river in fargo about to overflow and a very familiar scene, filling sand bags the second year in a row. that's not fun to do that. this river rises slowly not a rapid rising river because there is very little decrease in elevation between where the river starts and where the river ends, as this river moves off towards the north. the storm yesterday though across the northeast. major wind problems, jfk airport. 75 mile per hour wind and that's hurricane force wind to give you an idea strong that wind is. tons of trees down, power outages all over the place and the storm is still with us, now it's moved, the strength of the storm is a little farther off toward the north in across areas of new england where we'll see the heavy rain and heaviest of the wind that will pummel the area. this is the forecast for the next couple of days as you move here, it doesn't want to move so we'll stop it there and send it back to you guys, now. >> and the next segment here. >> my gosh, the biggest fear for all of us, i would say alligators maybe? wrestling in the u.s. is no longer confined to the ring fighters. now we're talking about taking on alligators. can you believe this. it's an extreme sport called alligator wrestling. >> joining us live from miami this morning, james holt and dave weathers are the co-founders of the free style alligator wrestling competition. also with us, i can't speak because many' flustered with the alligator. nice to see you guys. >> how you doing? >> we're okay. i don't know why you're so calm. you're standing next to a gator. james, explain to me how in the world you guys created this. you're the founder, how did you come up with this idea? >> it was just something that actually i've been wrestling alligator here at the hollywood hard rock and casino. me and my brother were talking about it and going back and forth who was better and we started talking, we could always have a competition and we met david weathers shortly thereafter, a few weeks later and all of a sudden we started talking and then we started playing planning the first competition for last year. >> that was actually about two years ago. >> and this competition, i'm reading that you win $5,000 if you win. >> that's not enough. >> i'm sorry you're putting your life on the line, that's a lot of money, but might not be enough. >> $5,000. >> depends where you're from. . alligator wrestlers up until now haven't been able to make very much money doing what they love and now we're trying to give those guys an opportunity doing what they love to do. it's go time, guys. let's get this done. james, david, marco, let's bring it on, bring on the alligator fight. we want to see this. oh, my gosh. >> are you kidding me? >> no. >> now we'll get started. >> now that the alligator is coming toward us. >> the his. >> oh! >> whoa. >> what's the goal here, james? >> want to make sure he doesn't go in the water. >> oh. >> boy, he would make a nice belt. >> does it hurt him? >> i have to ask does at that hurt him when you do that? >> or do we care? >> it doesn't hurt marco. >> he keeps him from holding you, hurting you. >> oh, my gosh. >> how do you score a pin, like wwe wrestling where you have a got to get him on the back? >> no, basically what alligator wrestling is, it's a catching technique used in the earlier days with your bare hands no snares or ropes anything like that. ooh. >> ooh. >> do you feed him before this so he's not hungry? >> oh, my gosh. >> no, they don't get fed beforehand. >> during any activity like the alligators are trying to figure out how to get away from people rather than defend themselves and eating. after the competition they'll settle down and then we'll feed him. >> thank you all for joining us, five grand nowhere near enough money for me to get in the ring with a gator, but we appreciate you all being with us this morning. very entertaining, gutsy to say the least. >> that could have ended a lot differently. >> thank you. >> see you later alligator. >> oye. coming up on the show, two seemingly regular american women, both convert to islam and now accused ties to terror. but what made these women seek out these ties? 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it did. >> dave: hopefully, everyone sprang forward and not as far as jonathan sprang forward. he did it two hours and woke up at... didn't trust his phone to reset, and he reset it himself -- >> clayton: is he still on roam time, vatican time and ainsley is here for vacationing alisyn camerota. >> she picked a heck of a time to go away. >> dave: an opportunity time to take off, and we start with a severe weather update, heavy rain, high winds, power outages makes for a sloppy weekend in the northeast. our own laura ingle joins us from sea bright, new jersey, an area that saw at least 4 inches of rain and she, too, picked a great day to join us early on "fox & friends." good morning, laura. >> reporter: well, good morning to you from a wet and soggy sea bright, new jersey, an area that is prone to flooding. whenever there is rain, this is an area that we will usually see flooded. of course, many of the things we have been talking about, with the massive storm, are the downed power lines a happen when we have wind u.s. up to 67 miles per hour, in some cases as you probably have been report, j.f.k., clocked one at 75 miles per hour and check this out, i'll have you pan over and show you a downed power line we found and you can see, it is just looping down, nearly to the street, making it very dangerous for people walking by. this is a road that was closed off, utility crews have been working through the night to get to downed power lines that have been blocking roads and hitting homes and causing major safety hazards across the tri-state area, and hundreds of thousands of customers in the northeast have been without power and three people didn't survive the storm, two in new jersey and one in new york lost their lives last night and roads were swamped with floodwaters after record rainfall sent motorists to higher ground and a maze of detours and, quickly, i just, came across rob elstrom and you got your morning coffee and what are you seeing there. >> another storm surge and the tide is coming back up and water left over from the rain yesterday and the water, basically, floods from the riverside, not the ocean side. >> reporter: looking bad there? >> yes, flooded up probably that near's and last night was really bad with the wind but, this place floods all the time but it was particularly bad yesterday. >> reporter: thank you very much, rob we hope you stay dry and safe and we'll bring you more images of different flood spots in new jersey. back to you. >> dave: good luck and stay dry yourself, thanks for being here this morning. >> chris: and rick reichmuth is in the weather center, how is it looking. >> rick: good but more to come, heaviest rain across new england and this batch of showers, thunderstorms imbedded in that and a little bit of hail, possibly, and parts of new jersey, about to see some more rain and some more, probably, lightning, hail, and strong winds with this batch of storms and the worst pulled off farther north and futurecast will show this over the next two days, and still, mingling in the area, bringing more rain and snow, not until tuesday morning it all begins to move out of here and we'll finally see sunshine and we have two rough days to get through and the winds from around new york city, southward today, not as bad, unless we see the thunderstorms, that could produce localized wind, but off towards the north, we'll continue to see extreme ongoing wind, over all of the day today, and part of tomorrow. and here's a look at how much more accumulating rain we'll see, some areas across parts of massachusetts, into new hampshire and maine, another 2-3 inches of rain, maybe another inch accumulating by the time it is done across areas, across new york city and higher temperatures, shaping up like this, not bad, no majerle cold air to deal -- major cold air to deal with and it moved across parts of atlanta, colder than you should be and tampa, cooling down and breezy and this extremely warm air is troublesome, up across parts of the northern plains, more flooding, we'll talk about, for the weeks to come, guys. >> no more! no month! >> clayton: the story everyone is talking about no, more of a theory about terrorism, growing in our country, the home ground terrorism, and, the story we brought you yesterday, how jihad jamie. the second of these people, who has sort of turned to radicalism. and, switched to islam and radicalized and she was arrested by the irish authorities, earlier this week. and, now she has been released. but her parents are talking and we're learning startling details about her past, and, we are sitting here dumbfounded to the fact that she has been released in the first place. >> the new news is her son has been placed in an islamic school in ireland, and, we're reading from the post this morning, what he has gone through, and what he is telling his grandmother, back here in the states, that he is learning in school. take' listen to what his grandmother is saying. >> easter week, is when she made... you are not going to like it, mom but i'm converting to islam. you need to, you know, become muslim, right now. he says, because, christians are going to burn in hellfire. this is what she's gotten herself involved with. what are you going to do, strap a bomb on and she says, if necessary. >> clayton: these are the types of things that jamie, the 31-year-old mom of a six-year-old from colorado is saying. and here's the things her son was hearing. christians will burn in hellfire. the mom was saying to the six-year-old and he was learning how to kick, fight, hold a gun and also was building pipe bombs and he said it was like the 4th of july and again i remind you this is a six-year-old, and she should be locked up for that alone. but, again, she's been released. >> clayton: and irish authorities say charges may be pending and we also are hearing from his dad -- her dad as well, her stepdad and we have learned about her past, linked to the likes of other terrorists, and, i'll read this to you: when i saw him, naijbullah zazi i said that is the fool jamie has been talking with. she was on the line with him and also with jihad jane. all talking at the same time. remember, jihad jane, of course, also, arrested, back in october, of this year, and we learned details about, in february, z z naijbullah zazi used a shuttle bus to bomb and he's been arrested and they were all talking on the internet. >> dave: and the blond women were associated with a plot to kill a swedish cartoonist who made fun of the prophet mohammed and one of the frightening details that is revealed about jamie is she was drying to bring her new partner here to the u.s., and, he wanted to become a pilot, and we don't know enough about that yet, but, scared that she wanted to bring someone who was radicalized to be a pilot and i'm sure more details will meteorology. but it is scary. >> and ironic her child's name was christian and, he exchanged it to an islamic name, walid. and house speaker nancy pelosi is brushing off republican claims that she doesn't have the votes to pass the health care reform. she says she's confident about the bill, and, quote, excited about where we are, and declined to say when house members would vote on the health care bill or how many votes she has at this point. house democratic leaders are pressing for a vote as early as this week. stunning details about a brazen escape attempt in yemen, documents show shariq mobley, fooled hospital guards into unshackling them by asking them to join him in the prayer and grabbed a gun and killed one of the guards and hurt another before being captured, he's a new jersey native who worked at nuclear power plant and is believed to be a member of al qaeda as well and we have a "fox news alert," this morning, a massive search under way in virginia, for a british college exchange student. missing for 12 days, now, look at this picture. this is 22-year-old johnnie dorie, last seen leaving the virginia commonwealth university campus and he had a backpack and cell phone and his parents traveled to the u.s. to help with the search and the school is offering a $5,000 reward for information and looks like the story about the run away toyota prius was a hoax. in a memo, written to congress, federal and toyota investigators say there is absolutely no way that james sikes was stepping on the brakes while his car was zooming out of control in the california highway. they say when investigators put the gas and the brake pedals to the floor the engine shut off. and, sikes, $700,000 in debt, and filed for bankruptcy, in 2007, says he's not going to sue toyota, he just wants a new car. and, sarah palin rocks the house. glenn beck kicks off the taking back our country tour. slammed president obama on big government and health care recall and rising deficit and sarah palin says americans who disagree with the president can make their voices heard during the midterm elections. >> the first task is to restore balance and common sense. the first real test will be at the ballot box. about 234 days from now. hang on until november, america! [cheers and applause]. >> hang on! >> a sellout crowd of 6,000 people attended the rally, and she's of course a fox news contributor and beck is the host of the glenn beck program right here on fox. >> never heard of it! >> those are your headlines. >> dave: one thing, press secretary robert gibbs says on fox news sunday, the house has the votes to pass health care, and, the senate will pass the bill and both will become law and assures chris wallace today. >> clayton: back room dealing, why the president cancelled his trip, coming up the man suspected of killing 17-year-old chelsea king apparently violated his parole, but wasn't put back behind bars. is there a problem with the justice system? judge jeanine pirro is here, next. >> dave: it's called kwedite, and it let's kids play on farmville and buy stuff with credit but is it dangerous to expose them to the idea of debt, or does it teach them to be responsible. we report, you decide. ♪ [ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time. time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze, my eyes water. but with new zyrtec® liquid gels, i get allergy relief at liquid speed. that's the fast, powerful relief of zyrtec®, now in a liquid gel. zyrtec® is the fastest 24-hour allergy medicine. it works on my worst symptoms so i'm ready by the time we get to the first hole. and that's good because the competition's steep today. new zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air.™ andthis is the cardause the comthat bought the saw.... that cut the lumber... that built the extra space i needed to store more produce... that she sold to me to make my menu more organic. introducing ink from chase. the card that helped make it all happen because it's accepted in twice as many places worldwide as american express. with reward points worth 25% more when redeemed for air travel. make your mark with ink. go to chase.com/ink. chase what matters. ♪ [ female announcer ] you can run in anything, and apparently some people do. but no matter what you wear, new tide plus febreze freshness sport is the number-one sports detergent for stain removal. and it eliminates odors from your entire load. so whatever you choose to run in is clean and smells fresh. new tide plus febreze freshness sport. style is an option. clean is not. >> the sex offender charged with murdering high school senior chelsea king had repeated parole violations, and the question is, why wasn't he behind bars? >> clayton: judge jeanine pirro is here, and joins us now, welcome, judge, nice to see you. >> good morning. >> clayton: you have prosecuted scumbags like this, throughout your whole career, this is something you have done and you have done well and tried to get people on board, to try to fix the system and where did the system fail us and the families. >> first of all, i fought for civil confinement law as president of the new york d.a.'s association but a sexual predator will repeat his offense and will identify, find, stalk, rape and possibly kill a victim and that what is we know -- always? that happens always. >> no. no. no. but they are freerreoffenders a they will continue to commit their crimes and this guy in california was known as a high risk offender and when they sentenced him against the 13-year-old, they said the community is in danger and he's at risk at reoffending and they gave him a low sentence and he comes out, on parole, 7 opportunities to throw him back into prison and this don't and what is outrageous about what happened in california, is that the head of corrections, and rehabilitation, which is an oxymoron, in his case, says, these incidents did not merit prison. are you kidding it is time for california, instead of saying we'll look back and see if we have a problem -- hogwash, you have a problem, a sexual offender highlighted as a danger to the community, and should have gone into civil confinement when he got out of prison, he should have been in an institution, where he is chemically castrated, with depot prevent vera and i have worked with -- depoprevera and i have worked with the john hopkins sexual center there and, they should be chemically or physically castrated and, we know from the phillip garrido and jaycee lee de guard, she was in the backyard, 18 years and neighbors calling and parole visiting and if california cannot handle the sexual predators and take care of the parents who worry about their children they should all be fired, and, we should get a line of people working there, because people need jobs and can do these jobs. >> and the system failed, i think about her parents, if i were a parent and i had birthed a child, given blood, sweat an tears for the child, raised this girl she's adorable, an honor student, comes from a great family and the system failed. and who is responsible, someone needs to take the blame for this. >> the problem is there is immunity, ainsley and you've got judges, prosecutors, parole officers, and this guy was living 500 feet from a daycare center and you know what parole said, the administrator said, he is in compliance. they reviewed the case and allowed him to stay there, because his lease is not up and he stays there another 13 months and they have the unmitigated gall to say to the public after he's charged with murdering a 17-year-old, he's a suspect in another rape and murder of a 14-year-old and they say, well, this isn't this kind of thing we send them back to prison for -- what! >> clayton: he says if that were the case our prisons would be overrun, judge, great to see you -- i wish you were more passional about the subject. coming up, the fbi celebrating 60 years, since it was first put on the mosts wanted list, an inside look at how the most dangerous criminals end up behind bars. that is next. >> from flight delays to extra bag fees to paying for snacks. now, what is the worst problem with airlines? 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>> let's ask kevin perkins the assistant director of the fbi criminal investigative division. good morning, to you, sir. thanks for being here. this is an important anniversary, an important tool for you, at -- the top ten list and let's start with the first person put on the list, 16 years ago, tell us who he was and how you caught him. >> thomas holding was the first person, placed on the list, 60 years ago and caught shortly after going up on the list. and, based, specifically on a tip we received, from a woman in oregon, who saw a newspaper article, about it. and, that is what is so great about the top ten lists is the information gets out to citizens, they get the information, and, fully 1/3 of the people we have captured have come directly because of citizen tips to the fbi. >> clayton: what is amazing when it started in 1950, a reporter at the time, with a news service, asked fbi for names and descriptions of the toughest guys they liked to capture and what happened from that? >> that is correct. he came in and asked that and we provided names and saw immediate results and at the time, director hoover saw the great interest the public had and decided to make it a permanent program within the fbi and here we are 60 years later. >> dave: technology certainly evolved. and, more specifically, the first woman on the list... >> yes, ruth iseman, and what she did in 1968, she committed a kidnapping, and buried a victim in a coffin-like structure and demanded half a million dollars and good old fashioned police work and tips from the community and sources led to her capture and arrest. >> clayton: tv played a role and there has been close to 500 fugitives, on top of the list. 1988, because of the first episode of "america's most wanted," you caught one of your guys on your list, didn't you? >> yes, mr. roberts, first episode of "america's most wanted," we had an individual who was wanted for rape, murder and kidnapping, and escaped from prison and had been on the run for quite a while. we profiled him on "america's most wanted," their first episode and within four days, due to citizen tips, he was in custody. >> dave: and john walsh proud to celebrate there, 1,000th episode recent and they have been an asset for you and we talk technology and it started when we talked about, in the newspapers, reporters, using this, how are you using technology, now, to track down some of these top ten most dangerous criminals? >> our objective is the same as it was in 1950, to get the word out to the public. back in the 1950s we put posters in the post offices where the community went to see things and today the community goes on-line and we have facebook, youtube, we have podcasts, we have twitter, and you name it, we even have electronic billboards out placing these fugitives' faces out to where the public can see them. >> clayton: and in case people have forgotten who is at the top of the top ten list today, in 2010, who is it? >> well, we have -- don't really rank them but, you will see familiar faces on there, such as usama bin laden, and, others. so, we are very anxious to hopefully pick up some of these foeb folk as quickly as we can. >> dave: so you don't rank them, i thoughty did. >> once they're on the top ten they are equal among other and if we get a tip and lead we put the resources to it immediately to bring the person in. >> clayton: kevin perkins thanks for joining us on the 60th anniversary of the top ten list. thanks so much. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> dave: coming up the president is trying to get the health care overhaul done by this week, white house press secretary robert gibbs minutes ago saying they've got the votes, we'll hear from him, next. >> clayton: a bill gator wrestling competition in florida and we're bringing you a slice of the action, see one of the competitors, wrestling a gator, that is next. chloe is 9 months old. she is the greatest thing ever. one little smile, one little laugh. honey bunny. 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from today for asia, and one would assume the vote needs to happen on saturday. >> clayton: the president delays his trip there, you don't delay your trip for no reason and there was obviously movement going on behind the scenes, and i sat here mystified, trying to figure out how he got the other 5 or 6 votes and as people talked on our show, saying back room deals, something had to be work out and let me throw that out, what back room deals? now, we publicly know they will not broker these deals like the cornhusker kick back and louisiana purchase. >> dave: that may stick around. >> clayton: the only thing is to remove committee chairpersonships, and that is not even enough, what else do you -- >> that is why they are back room deals, we don't know. and might not ever know. >> clayton: the only thing you can say to the house members, do you want the president to fail? >> dave: and offer your unbridled support and financial backing of the democratic party in 2010, which a lot of these people need in their election and the other side of the coin the republican response from scott brown, massachusetts senator, he spoke out on saturday, and minced no words and here's what he said about health care and what the public wants or in this case doesn't want. >> an entire year has gone to waste. millions of americans have lost their jobs. and, many more jobs are in danger. even now, the president still hasn't gotten the message. somehow, the greater the public opposition to the health care bill, the more determined they seem to force it on us anyway. you know, their attitude shows, that washington add its worst and the presumption, they know best, and they are going to get their way, whether the american people like it or not. >> clayton: what is next as we move forward here? now, the president has to sign that. once they approve it the president has to sign it and, then they go back and do this sub bill, reconciliation bill and house members... >> dave: don't trust the senate. >> clayton: and that is where the real interest -- >> this is why obama had to delay his trip and dana perino was on greta, watching it yesterday -- friday night, i guess and she said that she is glad president obama came back, he needed to. or delayed it. if it doesn't pass, it would look really bad, if he weren't here and either way it will look bad if he wasn't here in the states. >> dave: what else is happening. >> in addition to health care the president is adding something else to the plate tomorrow, he's set to propose dramatic changes to the nation's signature education law the "no child left behind" act, caroline shivley has the details. >> reporter: tomorrow the president sends the new education plan to congress, and, is a plan that basically ditches no child left behind, and the current law says all students have to perform at grade level in reading and math by 2014 and, labels more than a third of schools as failing and the criticism is states lowered standards to get more kids with passing grades, and the teachers were totally focused on the tests as opposed to general learning and main goal of the president's new plan, all students graduating from high school would have to be ready for college or career by 2020. and mr. obama would keep the annual math and reading tests and measure things like graduate rates and learning climates, and the white house also wants an extra $4 billion, in education spending. but, here's the reaction from a group that represents almost a million-and-a-half teachesers, nationwide. the american federation of teachers says it doesn't make sense to have teachers and teachers alone bear the responsibility for school and student success. the outlines of the president's plan go to committee on wednesday, during a week when all eyes are on health care, it is not clear how far the plan will get. ainsley, back to you. >> thank you, caroline. and we have a "fox news alert," just into our newsroom regarding the election in iraq, nouri al-maliki has a wide lead in early results from the southern oil hub of basra according to the election commission and the tally comes a week after iraq's parliamentary elections. and, new video into the newsroom of the aftermath of a string of attacks in kandahar, 12 homicide bombings killed more than 30 people including ten attending a wedding. more security is now being demanded in the region of the -- in the wake of the violence and the governor of the province says the blasts show that insurgents remain a strong force in the region. afghani officials blame the taliban for those coordinated attacks. and, senate republicans are preparing to challenge president obama's nominee for ambassador to el salvador, over previous ties to a suspected cuban intelligence agent. he was previously -- she was nominated to be an ambassador under president clinton and withdrew her name after reports of her relationship with a cuban national when it came to lighted and the post has been vacant, apparently, since the president took offices. and, he needs to fill it. wrestling in the u.s. is no longer between humans. fighters are now taking on alligators. earlier this morning on "fox & friends" -- i could barely watch it, watched last night's top scorer in the alligator wrestling competition take on the alligator live. >> at the casino, me and my brother talked about it, and, we were going back and forth, about who was better and started talking, well, let's have a competition. >> the object is to catch the gator with your hands and the winner, we were surprised, by this, you think the winner 0 would get, a million bucks. >> dave: 5 grand, nowhere near enough to get me in the pool with a gator. 5 million, playboy. >> clayton. >> clayton: thank you, guess what? this weekend marks the 13th anniversary of the sighting of the phoenix lights, in phoenix, arizona. thousands of people -- >> really. >> dave: celebrating anniversaries. >> clayton: "national geographic" video, thousands of people saw this and reported seeing a triangular formation pass over their homes, large craft, they said three football fields long and the series of stationary rights moved in a long line and the u.s. air force, later identified the lights was flares, most people don't buy that. >> dave: i don't, either. >> clayton: and the governor said he saw and witnessed it and wished he would have done more, to talk about it. >> rick: i lived there at the time and i didn't see it happen but the entire town was talking about it. you know, the next day, did you see it? did you see it? i wish i would have. it would be a great story now, at least! all right, flood warnings, guys, still going on across much of the coastal areas of the northeast, winds across areas of new england are still very very, strong, 24 around parts of the cape into the 30s, coastal maine, where we will probably see the worst, at least of the wind today and the wind, yesterday, more significant, than we will see anywhere today, but check these out, 75 miles per hour, at jfk airport, hurricane-force winds, and towards the new york city area, 73 miles an hour in atlantic city, and, i tell you what, all kinds of major beach problems, they have taken a pounding this winter from all of the storms we have seen and this adding insult to injury and you get that kind of wind in new york city and dave sent me these pictures, collecting these pictures and i thought it was funny until i rode into work and it was a graveyard of umbrellas on the new york city streets and these people say, buy your umbrella and they are 2 or $3. and it is gone in ten seconds. the worst $3 you will ever spend. still watching the storm across parts of the east and will take it monday night into tuesday before it is completely out of here and the worst of the rain, today, across parts of new england and some of these storms towards new jersey, right now, are thunderstorms, a little bit of hail, maybe lightning, involved with these ones as well. all right. >> clayton: the thing that worked yesterday was a hermetically sealed poncho. >> have you seen the folks walking around new york, a clear umbrella and is like a bell, you put your head down in it. like a bubble. >> dave: listen to this story, kids call each other names, loser, dork, geek, these are names clay tor heard growing up and a 6th grade girl was called a loser on her papers from her own teacher, this happened in north carolina. >> clayton: look at that. and got -- this is what she received on her paper, negative 20%, for being a loser. for a 6th grader and i could see, let me defend him a little bit, i could see if it was high school, you might -- you get the humor and the joke. >> dave: trying to relate to the students. >> clayton: 6th grade might not get the humor and greg writes into us this morning and says kids have a hard enough time while in school, to have a teacher calling them losers, it is absolutely unacceptable and we pay these professionals to instruct, not to detract, from their self-worth. >> you know, i remember being a 6th grader, a little girl, and it is like the worst -- school is hard for girls. it really is. so to have your teacher call you a loser is just difficult. difficult. but, i will say, like you said, the high school thing we all have a -- these great teachers, and. >> clayton: move it along... >> and i had a great teacher and i loved him and if he called me a loser, i would laugh about it. >> dave: maggie says i'm no fan of the constant chorus of good job, students hear daily i don't think they should needlessly be rate students by calling them losers and mike on twitter, says, fire the loser. people are unanimous on the e-mail on the twitter, not much support for the teacher. he ought to keep his job, just learn the boundaries. >> she said earlier all the kids love the teacher, right. >> over 330 members on the facebook book, supporting him, keep his job, we love the teacher. >> clayton: how old are you, in 6th grade, 10, 12, and you are on facebook -- >> maybe he needs to apologize and keep his job. >> clayton: e-mail us, i'm claytonmorris on twitter, davebriggs on twitter an ainsley, send them to us, much more on the show and many of us tried our hand at waiting tables at some point in our lives. >> dave: oh, yeah. >> clayton: dave used to work at hooter's, and some of them made a career out of it and we'll talk to a woman who has been a waitress for 06 years and why she says she's part of a dying breed, etiquette in waitressing. >> dave: pay back! and controversy surrounding the company "kwedit," that lets kids buy stuff using credit on virtual games like farmville. >> i know it sound like a web site that hooks kids on borrowing credit. let me explain, it is a web site that hooks little kids on borrowing credit. >> dave: colbert hammering them, should kids be exposed to the idea of debt that young? we report, you decide. >> rain, rain, rain... well that's great. you 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[ male announcer ] have a heart to heart with your doctor about your cholesterol. and about lipitor. >> welcome back, a quick look all right headlines now, new video of a smiling henry kissinger leaving a south korean hospital, the former secretary of state was treated for minor stomach problems, while on a trip oversea, and he's said to be doing well. and, a new report out this morning, on what travellers dislike most about flying, guess what, air fare watchdog says 52% despise paying to pick seats, 31% to change flights and 14% don't like paying for snacks. >> i tell you what, paying for the extra bags. and major controversy over a new web site called "kwedit," that fronts kids a small amount of credit to buy things on-line. >>... a new credit web site called, "kwedit." now, i know that sounds like a web site that hooks little kids on borrowing credit. so let me explain... it is a web site that hooks little kids on borrowing credit. [laughter]. >> dave: oh, irresponsible? or a good lesson? we are joined this morning by educational consultant steven roy goodman, author of "college admissions" and credit and debt expert jordan goodman, author of the "master your debt", no relation, can't have too much of a good-man, let me start with you, jordan, it is a business that tries to get young kids hooked on credit. white is it a good idea. >> it is basically a promise to pay and if you don't use it responsibly, your privileges get taken away and is a terrific idea to have kids -- and you cannot be younger than 13, to be able to learn to pay responsibly and get off to a good start in live. >> and they don't have to pay this money back. and, what could it do, could it damage young children and how? >> well, it does, because it encourages addiction, and encourages teenagers to get addicted to credit. and, it encourages kids to, these they're kinds of things that eventually encourage people to do off-track betting. >> dave: here's my question to you, jordan, if they don't have to pay it back isn't it teaching them the wrong lesson about credit? because then they'll learn they can get things deent have to pay the money back. >> the opposite, if they don't pay it back they lose their presentati privileges and they want to use them to buy on-line animals or whatever it may be and quickly learn if they don't pay things back they will lose their privileges and there is an epidemic of people not using credit correctly country, and it gives people the good experience. >> dave: we are out of time, already, steven roy goodman, jordan goodman, interesting debate, "kwedit," we are back in two minutes. resilience. elasticity. imagine that kind of vitality... in your skin. aveeno introduces ageless vitality. as skin ages, elasn fibers break down. this exclusive biomineral concentrate system... has active naturals ingredients shown to multiply... elastin's elements. i'm impressed. the study showed improved firmness, texture, wrinkles, or spots in 100% of women. how uplifting is that? new ageless vitality. save $15 at aveeno.com. that's the beauty of nature and science.

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