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interview with rush limbaugh. rush likes women. i didn't know that was a debate. our slogan comes to us from don in the control room. can we see a shot of don? there he is. he's the guy in black. he's testifying against the mob later today. the coffee is brewing and the eggs are frying, i start my morning with steve, gretchen and brian. sunny side up! >> welcome aboard, folks. it is wednesday and at least for the northeast, the rodent was right yesterday. >> what? >> the groundhog was right. six more weeks of winter. it's snowing here. >> right. >> no kidding. >> ahhh! >> i'm voting for the robot from now on. >> you're pro robot, too? you're the only -- >> time for the news, then. i'm robotic. >> i guess it robot would read it, then. here's the fox news alert. you're looking at new video of iran successfully firing the satellite rocket into space. iran's president calls it a huge breakthrough. west worries that iran could use the technology to launch nuclear warheads and ahmadinejad said he's willing to release hikers if others are freed. they have been detained since july when they accidentally crossed over into iran. a haitian judge questions a group of u.s. baptist missionaries accused of trying to leave the country with 33 haitian children. a judge questioned five women for several hours. we spoke to them from behind bars. >> we're waiting to know -- all we know is they got us and bring this to a positive closure. we'll wait for that answer. >> is there an apology to be made by you to this government? >> no, we're meeting with the government officials and talking with them. everything is going very well. >> the five men who have been detained will be questioned today. they claim they were just trying to help kids come to the u.s. >> top lawmakers are now looking to revive the president's health care overhaul beginning work on a compromise bill now. senate majority leader harry reid says a definitive timeline for anything getting done is not in the cards right now. >> don't pin me down as to days and number of weeks to move forward on health care. we plan it do health care this year and do it as quickly as we can. >> republican scott brown's victory in the massachusetts special election provided the 41st republican vote necessary to block the health care reform bill. reaction fast and furious for president obama's latest crack about las vegas. did you hear this yesterday? mr. obama said that americans shouldn't blow a bunch of cash when saving for college. it's that time of the year, he's taken a shot at sin city. last winter, he said no company getting bailout money should hold meetings there and the mayor of las vegas has had enough. >> he has a real psychological hangup about the entertainment capital of the world. and an apology won't be acceptable this time. >> the white house says the president sent a letter to senate majority leader harry reid saying he was just trying to urge people to prioritize and that he personally always enjoys his visits to vegas. reid is from nevada and, of course, up for re-election in a very tough fight. >> that's not going to help. >> it's homeward bound for spiky the dog plucked out of a flooded los angeles river by helicopter after a brief stint in a local animal control center, he's back with his family and fellow furry friend, polo. spiky's family gave many thanks to rescuers as did a california animal organization giving them plaques for their service. and those are your headlines. is that the same dog that bit the guy that rescued him out of the flooding waters? i think that happened when i was gone. >> it is. it's confirmed. i wish i knew their names. >> do we have a second source on the crew? let's talk a little bit about this yesterday. the annual threat briefing to congress was happening and i'll tell you, it was riveting. we did learn some stuff that we didn't know before. remember the christmas day underwear bomber? we understand that once he was read his miranda rights, he asked for a lawyer and he clammed up. we discovered yesterday that apparently he is now talking. he is revealing who he trained with and where over there. and you got to wondering, well, how come that started that -- why did he open suddenly? as it turns out, on january 17th, the february february flew his family to the united states and his family said, come on, tell them what you know. otherwise, you're going to spend the rest of your life in prison. apparently, it worked because he's telling what he knows. >> yeah, but the question is whether or not he'll get a better deal now as a result. i mean, do you believe in deal making? >> he will. >> with terrorist? do you as our viewers believe in view making for terrorists even if it gives you information? this will be the age old argument here. should they not have read him his miranda rights and he would have sung like a bird anyway or do you feel comfortable with the fact that this guy may now get, i don't know, 20 years in prison, 10 instead because he's going to have a deal made because he gave information after he got his rights? >> the question from senator feinstein, the answer from the f.b.i. director. let's listen. >> it is also my understanding that mr. abdulmutallab has provided valuable information. is that correct? >> yes. >> thank you. and that the interrogation continues despite the fact that he has been mirandized. >> yes. >> so, you know, they went back and forth and people confirmed that's great news. surprising news and that's one of the reasons why people should show up for these committee meetings like the homeland security director. >> that's right. >> secretary. but here's the thing, gretchen, i agree with you, it's great news for america that he's talking and his dad put the pressure on him to get him to talk. but the problem is what he's telling us now, could it have been more valuable two weeks ago? >> of course! >> i'm raising a lot of questions about the fact -- >> people who say ah-ha, it does pay to read him his rights and give him some time and let him talk, in the intelligence world, within 24 hours if they capture this guy and he says i'll tell you exactly the coordinates of where i was located and the camps i was at, the stakes have been pulled up as soon as the word leaked out and you don't know. >> political vindication for president obama. this is a complete political vindication for president obama and eric holder if, in fact, they're continuing to still get information from this guy because by all accounts, is there always a father in every terrorist case who's called beforehand to give us personal information about their own son being a terrorist? is there always going to be that father that you can fly over to nigeria and bring back here to convince the kid to talk even after he's been given all the u.s. rights of any american citizen? i doubt it. >> you know, in a case of -- if he would have been handed over to military interrogators, they probably wouldn't have flown the family in and a senior white house official who anonymously spoke yesterday said look, this is proof the kid is talking. but all he's saying is where he was and who he met. also yesterday, dennis blair, the director of n.i.a. said he should -- this guy should have been interrogated by special terrorism investigators instead of the f.b.i. so there is an acknowledgment they should have brought in the professionals rather than the f.b.i. agents. >> don't tell us about what ronald reagan did, just get it right next time and please get the best guys or the best women involved with the next terrorist attack that hopefully will thwart like this one. meanwhile, let's talk about other news that came out of there. that is there is a major concern for the c.i.a. director especially that there is an expected attempted attack between three and six months. in fact, he used the word an attempt is all but certain. not a 9/11 style attack necessarily. smaller, simpler attacks. here's some of the exchange between the national intelligence director, the c.i.a. director and the f.b.i. director with senator feinstein. >> what is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the u.s. homeland in the next three or six months? high or low? director blair? >> an attempted attack, the priority is certain, i would say. >> mr. panetta? >> i would agree with that. >> mr. muller? >> agree. >> that is as terrifying testimony as you will hear up on capitol hill. it's interesting, they also said that al-qaida is now, they've had as targets before. so on the alert, commercial jets, financial institutions here in the new york city area and this is something we haven't heard before, the d.c. metro system. apparently that was a target revealed in the past and now they are revealing for the first time that it's, perhaps, a target now. as panetta said yesterday, one of the hardest things is to go after the lone wolf, the big sell is one thing but lone wolf is tough. >> if you're sitting in the obama administration now and listening to this testimony, wake up and have some coffee this morning because this is huge news. you got a big problem on your hands. it's called terrorism. it's called the war on terror! and now they're saying that it's certain that there will be an attempted attack between three and six months? and by the way, china factors into this. that factors into our national debt. they're worried about malicious cyber activity in china. will we go after them now, too, because of the massive debt that they're holding for us? this to me was an overwhelming amount of testimony yesterday. >> good that they're alert to it. >> and throughout the next three hours, provide more color on some of the details. meanwhile, in illinois, some major news. as you know, they're still trying to find a permanent replacement for senator barack obama's seat. >> what about burris? isn't he working out? >> he is, according to him, the magic man. magic has run out, he says, i promise not to run again. it's been a circus with me around so out comes the primaries for the democrats and republicans. not really a surprise with the results. alexi won by about five points. he won the democratic side. on the other side, mark kirk as expected a rout to beat patrick hughes. he, when they go head to head with any democratic opponent is actually leading in illinois. here's gianoulis looking forward. he would never look back at the administration. >> mark kirk's plan is to move this country backward, back to the failed and reckless economic policies of the bush administration that got us into this mess. >> that had been tape like from a year ago, right? >> no, that was last night. congressman kirk who has served five terms and won yesterday by 57% of the vote, here he is talking about his future that he would like to have in the senate. >> ladies and gentlemen, we have seen some dark days surrounding this senate seat. a governor tried to sell it. democrats stopped a special election to fill it and partisans want to do whatever it takes to hold it. i've got bad news for them. because you and i know the people of illinois are ready for something different. >> ok. they're ready for something different. this is going to be a long campaign because the election is not until november. so now they got the two sides set. it's off to the races. some have suggested that mr. kirk could be the next scott brown and, you know, when scott brown was up in massachusetts campaigning, as is the case, you always wind up being on a bunch of radio shows, local radio shows and you say to different guys, you know what? if i win, i will do this. he won and yesterday it was time to make good on a deal he made so a morning show. >> had something to do with beer, i guess. i don't know anything about it. brian, fill me in. >> i refuse to tell. no, he says that he promised if i win and he did it with the name of the show is the hillman morning show, he said listen, if i win this election, i will come back and i will have a beer summit here and will make it for the troops. will make it for charity. now there's raffle tickets being sold for $10 each and to be a part of the beer summit, i guess the summit, you can talk about what you want. but the beer will definitely be plentiful and the benefit goes to home for our -- homes for our troops. >> so tuesday night in a boston -- in a boston restaurant, you can see, there he gathered, with 10 radio listeners. i think they had -- the raffle tickets, i think, were 10 or 20 bucks, they raised a bufrnl of money for it and scott brown made good on that deal he made with the morning men at waaf. way to go. >> all right. coming up on our show, the president's plan to put a dent in the deficit could plunge us deeper into a recession? that's what our next guest says. >> then wayne newton accused of abandoning his private jet and walking away from the bill. we'll tell you about that story. >> and then rahm emanuel says he's sorry for using the r word. lots of fox say the apology is just not enough. óxñ [meow] desperate for nighttime heartburn relief? for many, nexium helps relieve heartburn symptoms caused by acid reflux disease. and for the majority of patients with prescription coverage for nexium, it can cost $30 or less per month. headache, diarrhea, and abdominal pain are possible side effects of nexium. other serious stomach conditions may still exist. ask your doctor if nexium can help relieve your heartburn symptoms. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. >> glad you're up. let me tell you what's happening. a month after she was found dead in a dumpster, police have released a sketch of the man seen leaving a miami nightclub with a former playboy model. a $15,000 award is being offered for information leading to an arrest. and a woman who wanted to adopt a missing arizona baby under arrest at this hour. tammy smith was considered a person of interest in the case but now police don't believe she had anything to do with gabriella johnson's disappearance. she is charged with custodian interference for repeatedly trying to adopt the 8-month-old. >> president obama says his budget plan will cut the deficit to a mere $700 billion by the end of his term, first term, in 2013. but our next guest says that the president's deficit mcure may actually be worse than the illness. >> ron is the senior of studies at the brookings institute. good morning to you. >> i'm doing great, how are you? >> i'm great. how can this be worse than what we're expecting? >> because the plan that obama has presented isn't necessarily going to work. there are many weaknesses in the plan and the greatest problem facing the country is our national debt. i think it's greater than any of our other problems, the environment and even terrorism in some respects because the whole future of the country depends on a sound federal budget and continuing payments for medicare and medicaid and so forth. there's great weaknesses in his plan. first of all, it's doubtful that the freeze will really be passed by congress. a number of the tax proposals have already been rejected by congress. so the problem is really much more with the congress in my view than with the president himself. the president has at least proposed a modest step in the right direction but many -- there are many problems with it and besides that, we have to go up a mountain so a modest step is, you know, a small thing. >> you know, it's one thing, people up on capitol hill say look, we're spending way too much and then suddenly, the president tries to freeze or cut some stuff and some congressional members from those districts that are impacted suddenly say, ok, you can cut but just don't cut in my district and that's going to be something that he faces wherever he tries to wield the axe. >> bill archer used to say, don't tax you. don't tax me. tax that guy behind the tree. and we're running out of guys behind trees and it is true that congress is just very difficult to get the move on this and that was true in the republican congress, too. >> i was going to ask you that, ron. i was just going to ask you that. exactly what you're just pointing ut now, that the republican congress may have done the same thing so does it really matter who the president is? >> not to me. >> with regard to national debt. >> the congress did do it. the congress passed, you know, the bill that was going to assure the permanent part of the republican party and didn't try to pay for it. at least obama tried to pay for his health bill and might not have been an effective pay force so i think the congress is really the problem here and what it points to is the biggest underlying problem which is the congress is shackled. the congress is stuck in the mud. the congress is not taking the action that everybody knows it has to take. >> time for them to wake up and smell the red ink. all right. ron haskins from brookings, the institute down on massachusetts and washington. thank you, sir, for joining us live. >> good to be here. >> a teacher deemed too dangerous to be around kids. why are taxpayers shelling out $100,000 a year for him to sit around all day and do nothing in a rubber room? >> and then i sat down with rush limbaugh to get his take on president obama. >> this was defensive petulent, immature, sarcastic. he's clearly angry he's been rejected. >> more from my exclusive interview coming up. bruce jenner, dave ramsey and melissa rivers. >> when a line-up. heck it out, s blowing up sky high ♪ ♪ - ditched my used subcompact for a two-wheeled ride ♪ ♪ - now i'm rolling eco-friendy but i still look bad ♪ ♪ when the bike store saw my credit ♪ ♪ they said this was all they had ♪ ♪ i'm singing- f to the r to the to the e ♪ ♪ to the c to the r to the e-d-i-t, ♪ ♪ re to the port to the dot, to the com ♪ ♪ come on everybody grab your bike and sing along, ♪ ♪ it's easy... f to the r... ♪ vooffer applies with enrollment in triple advantage. >> this new york city public schoolteacher deemed too dangerous to be around kids hasn't stepped foot in a classroom in nearly a decade. but he's still earning a six figure salary, full health benefits and the promise of a fat pension from the department of education. all on taxpayers' dime. is this free ride legal and does it sit well with you? here for a fair and balanced debate, attorney joy huxsted, she represents teachers. doesn't know this guy but knows cases like this guy and an attorney and directedor of litigation at the liberty institute. can you defend, joy, this gentleman, alan rosenfeld making over $100,000 to sit in a room for 10 years while conducting other business. >> he was found completely innocent. the only testimony against him, i understand, was that as two girls were talking about boys near one's locker, he stuck his head near and he says oh, and you love him so much. and then went on to his business. >> conduct unbecoming a teacher, the court -- he was found innocent of those charges. >> he was found completely innocent. why are you saying that he's too dangerous to be in the classroom? it's the city's fault for leaving him there. >> but he's not the only one in the rubber room. does this sound right? he's working the phones making over $100,000 for 10 years? managing over five properties? >> well, this is absolutely outrageous. you got this millionaire sitting in this rubber room for 10 years stealing $100,000 of taxpayer money that could be going to the teachers. why are we worried about this guy? why aren't we taking care of the kids? they're the ones that deserve the investment. they're the ones that deserve to be taken care of. >> what kind of union says it's ok for teachers who don't have a classroom to go to, whether they have -- make lewd comments to kids or not, to still get paid. if there's no room for teachers in that school, they should move on. >> it's not the union. both the union contract and the state law says that the maximum time before a trial until the decision comes in is 120 days. and then afterwards, either the teacher is disciplined or the teacher goes back to work. the fact that people are staying there for two, three, four, five years is because they're being rehabilitated. >> true or false, there's teachers sitting in a rubber room every day that don't teach classes. >> they're depressed there every day under horrible conditions and prevented from teaching classes. >> but it was strange here, i mean, they decide the morning show only needs one anchor, steve and i don't come in the next day. no one tells me to go sit in a rubber room although i belong there in some cases. that's the way it works in the free market, correct here? >> hey, listen, these are people that educrats in new york city who has one of the worst dropout rates in america, even they say these people can't be in a classroom with kids. that must mean there's something seriously wrong. and instead of getting rid of these 100 plus people collecting paychecks for doing nothing, they want to fire some hard working good teachers that are energetic and passionate about teaching kids. >> who don't have the tenure. final thoughts? >> the final thought is that tenure is something that you get for working for three years and doing an excellent job or longer now they're changing it to much longer and that allows them to only after 22 years give $100,000. you don't work for $100,000 after 22 years. so they've bargained off. you get a low salary for your education and your skills. but you get security. and he has that property. >> a debate that's going on not just in this case but across the country. thanks so much, guys. and joy. >> thanks for having us. >> straight ahead, we gave a.i.g. $180 billion to stay afloat. now the insurance giant is giving out $100 million in new bonuses. stuart varney is here for fox business and he'll talk about it. he just walked in. he's got an attitude. best piece of video. a driver slams his truck through a plate glass window on purpose. wait until you hear why. and it's going to cost him big time. how much will he have to shell out because that is covering his finger? 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you went to work in labor? >> i was about to go into work in labor. but my husband said nope, i think we'll have the baby instead. >> i'm going to make a prediction. i believe they're going to be great parents and that kid is going to be a fine kid that some day will serve or do his best for fox news. after he's done playing at the university of miami. after he's done playing at the university of miami, he'll turn down pro contracts to go into television and follow his dad and mom into this business. >> that's right. his nickname g-5 because he is the fifth gavin in a row in that family. >> wow. >> 501. >> that's flat out lack of imagination. >> and team of america player. >> congratulations, gavin, tracy. wow, beautiful child. all right. brian, let's do some other headlines. can't get better than that, though. >> who would name their kid after them? >> i wonder, do they get to keep that little stocking cap? >> yes, you do. >> who would name their kid after them and change the spelling? >> yeah. >> did you just hit me? >> rather hard. >> you have whacked my good shoulder. >> ok. >> call h.r. >> ok. >> call h.r. >> i need a whistle. thank you. 27 minutes before the top of the hour. now let me tell you what's happening in the news. fox news alert. pakistani officials say a roadside bomb near the afghan border left three american soldiers did. you're looking at video just in from the aftermath. the blast hit a security convoy. we've also learned an unmanned u.s. drone reportedly killed the head of the taliban in pakistan, that's last week. by the way, there's 18 missiles that have been sent in that region and there's been 10 separate attacks this month alone. payback on both sides. 27 minutes before the top of the hour. >> more than 100 customers now complaining about brake problems with the toyota prius. not part of the gas pedal recall, though. one of them, apple computer's co-founder who knows a little something about computers. he tells abc news his 2010 prius sometimes speeds up suddenly. >> really? >> it has nothing to do with a sticky gas pedal. he believes the problem is in the software. >> probably microsoft. meanwhile -- i'm kidding. white house chief of staff rahm emanuel apologizing now after using the r word. it happened during a meeting, closed door meeting with liberal activists. they were planning to air ads attacking conservative democrats who were balking at president obama's health care overhaul. that is when emanuel called them the r word. he apologized to the head of the special olympics but that's not enough for sarah palin. of course, palin has a son with down's syndrome and says emanuel's remark is heartbreaking and a slur on god's children. she says he should be fired. >> he called up tim shriber who does a lot of work there. mr. las vegas not too popular in michigan. wayne newton owes them about $61,000 in parking fees for his $2 million private jet. the plane has been sitting there for years. newton is not returning phone calls and wants to junk the plane. he's wayne newton. can't pick up the phone. you got people that do that. >> all right. a man is charged with attempted murder in, well, after driving into a convenience store at a gas station. take a look. police say a 49-year-old man pulled into a gas station. well, that's one way of describing it in the town in alabama. he then got into a fight with the clerk because the pump was turned off. the suspect then drove right through the plate glass window. all right, i understand the charges now. the clerk barely escaped being hit. a deputy eventually subdued the suspect with a stun gun. no doubt, that is attempted murder. when you go after a clerk with your car. >> i can't believe he wrecked all that coke! >> exactly. it was beautifully stacked. 24 minutes before the top of the hour. let me tell you what's happening because we're heading to the super bowl. we'll be live there on friday. meanwhile, the antics and fun happened yesterday. four time m.v.p. peyton manning was the biggest draw of yesterday's media day. no surprise, he was surrounded by as many as 100 reporters and photographers throughout the hour long session. that is like a press conference that stuart varney would have. since quarterback drew brees drawing a lot of attention. the event had to be moved inside due to more rain in southern florida. the forecast is looking great for super bowl sunday. it rained last time i was in florida. game time temperatures will be 70 degrees. remind me to wear a windbreaker. thanks to the underwear bomber, security at the super bowl is as tight as it's ever been. bomb sniffing dogs, bomb picking robots and over 100,000 federal, local law enforcements are there to ensure fans and players are safe on super sunday. >> that's scary. >> here just to make sure that nothing happens and the fans are safe and the only thing the fans have to worry about is whether their team wins or loses. >> by the way, gretchen has a correction. >> 1,000. >> not 100,000, just 1,000 police officers. kickoff time is 6:25 eastern time. i believe it will go deep into the end zone. coming up from 9:00 to noon, my prediction among some of our guests, some of our guests on -- oh, yeah, excuse me, yeah, on jeff sessions on "brian & the judge" a little bit later, we'll be at shula's on friday. we have chuck grassley on "brian and the judge." >> when you say you're going at shula's on the beach in fort lauderdale, you're inviting people to stop by, right? between 6:00 and 9:00 a.m. eastern time on a1a in florida. >> all right. 23 minutes before the top of the hour. >> how about rex ryan? he got into a whole lot of trouble in florida for a gesture we had to cover up with the ball. >> right much but the new york newspapers didn't. rex ryan gave dolphins fans this finger at a mixed martial arts event in miami. now the coach has to pay a $50,000 fine. he later apologized said it was inappropriate and stupid but $50,000, a little steep. >> that's a lot. >> not when you're making kazillions. critics are taking a fresh stab at failed insurance giant a.i.g. set to pay out $100 million in bonuses today. stuart varney is here with the breakdown. good morning to you, stuart. >> but here's the deal -- >> they deserve it, don't they? >> no comment. this is not the opinion part of the program, i believe. >> i don't think people would be as outraged if it wasn't for the fact that these bonuses are going to the same division that originally did this risky kind of business. >> yes. $100 million in bonuses will be paid out to the 200 people who are eligible for bonuses in the financial services unit. they got a.i.g. into trouble in the first place. you can expect everybody who wants to tax the rich to jump on this and say, see, told you so. they don't deserve it. tax them. >> the problem is people go, wait a minute, doesn't a.i.g. still owe us, the u.s., $90 billion but at the same time, people say, look, it's part of their deal. they are obligated by law. they've got contracts that say i'm going to get this amount of money, so technically we're handcuffed. we've got to pay them. >> that is the other side of the fence, isn't it? >> that's why it's fair and balanced. >> yeah. this is a contractual obligation. the contracts for these people were signed before the bailout. a.i.g. is obliged to pay them. by the way -- >> everybody's contract? everybody's was signed. it wouldn't be in the new contract. >> most of these 200 people that are getting it, contractual obligation. wait a minute. they have agreed to take $20 million less than they were supposed to get. that's a partial giveback. i'm not on their side necessarily. but there are two sides to the story. >> senator chuck grassley, a republican says "a.i.g. taxpayers are over a barrel. the obama administration has been outmaneuvered and the closed door negotiations add to the skepticism that taxpayers will ever get the upper hand. "stuart, i'm for enforcing contracts. but what kind of matrix and math is done that would allow these employees to get bonuses out of one of the most hideous performances in u.s. business history? >> they are traders, ok? their bonuses. >> t-r-a-d-e-r-s. >> did i say it wrong? >> as opposed to traitors. >> that's a little harsh. >> people get a little agitated. >> these people trade the capital of a.i.g., they try to increase that capital, right? they buy, they sell. >> how did that go? >> they tried to make a profit. >> recently? they've done ok. they're trying to make a profit. they get a percentage of those profits in their bonuses. >> the flip side of this, stuart, that they didn't do a good job, the company would really be in trouble. so to a certain extent, they've done a good job so they maybe should be rewarded. >> look, what i'm saying is this -- there's a difference between the banks who get a lot of stick because they took bailout money. they have paid it back with interest, with profit to the government, ok? a.i.g. took that money, $180 billion. they've not paid it back. we're not going to get it back. it looks awful when these people take big bonuses. you can't get away from bad p.r. >> we can still be outraged. >> and people are. people are. >> stuart, i'm not going to program your show. i would say you should discuss this today on the varney show. >> it will come up. >> i'll be listening to "brian & the judge" on the radio and it's 9:20, i gotta go. >> 9:20. >> thank you, stuart. why do small businesses go to borrow money when the banks say no? we're going to talk to the head of one company helping small business owners survive. >> and he's been dropping bombshells about former presidential candidate john edwards for days now. the author of the new book "the politicians" joins us live. can't wait for that. have arthritis pain, you could end up taking 4 times the number... of pills compared to aleve. choose aleve and you could start taking fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthritis pain all day. i reached my weight goal thanks to you so i am ready to get back out there. alright. that's great. i want to personally thank you for 100 calorie hearty chicken rotini. well, it'not just me. you're so funny. i like you. 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>> i'm going to spend $70. all right, meanwhile, speaking of money, with wig banks rejecting even the smallest loans and the credit squeeze leaving millions of entrepreneurs desperate for funding, small business owners continue to struggle to stay afloat. here's what president obama proposed yesterday. >> i'm announcing a proposal to take $30 billion of the money that was repaid by wall street banks now that they're back on their feet, take that $30 billion and use it to create a new small business lending fund that will provide capital for community banks on main street. >> and the crowd went wild. is that enough? well, small business owner michael levy joins us right now, joined by the founder of hartsgo financial lender. let's start with you. they're going to have this small business lending thing. can that help you? >> i don't believe so. i believe the government and the president is right in telling the banks to lend money to small businesses. but the truth is, banks are not lending money to small businesses. >> and you found out the hard way. you had been -- for your business and you make these digital photo frames that a lot of people have purchased. when your largest customer, sharper image went out of business, what did your long time banker chase say? >> they turned us away quicker than you can snap your fingers. >> why is that? >> i guess the almighty bottom line is if we're not going to be profitable every step of the way, they want nothing to do with us. >> it's a loan. you can take a little longer to pay it back. it would seem to me that you would be -- you make a good product. >> you would assume that. i agree 100% with you. they turned -- they turned on us so quickly. they used to give us loans with the snap of a finger. we'd get large purchase orders, they'd come and sign documents, give us the money. we'd pay it back. no problems. but the second some of our large customers went out of business which is no fault of our own, they turned on us immediately. >> see, that's the story that we have heard so many people say. i'm in a small business and i can't get the banks to lend any money to me. however, now, you are not a bank, richard, but you are a lender and he hooked up with you to provide the money to build these photo frames so he can sell. tell us about your outfit. >> yeah, what we do is called purchase order financing and what we center on is the transaction that the company has itself and not the overall look of the balance sheet and we're looking at the individual transaction that if we -- if this is a good product and he has it sold to a customer with a good -- good credit. >> so he comes to you and he says i've already sold 5,000 of these but i need $100,000 to make them. >> so, you know, we -- what we do is we do our process of, you know, verifying that the transaction exists with him. and then we're willing to lend, when we lend on the transaction meaning we pay the vendor for the merchandise. we watch it go through the process. >> i fwogotcha. so he's bailed you out, hasn't he? >> without his help, to be honest our business in 2009 would be half of what it was. with the help of purchase order financing, they enabled us to sell to large customers such as b.j.'s and best buy in canada with their help. >> how do -- for small business owners right now who are watching, richard, how do they find somebody like you if not you? >> well, there's many ways. you know, we have a very good network within the industry that, you know, bankers who pass usually when they turn down a loan, usually pass it on to somebody else. usually somewhere through the network, they almost facilitate down into us. >> they can find you. >> but we're on the internet, you know. >> what's your web site? >> www.hartsko.com. >> all right. very good. richard from hartsko financial and michael levy, the guy that makes those digital photo frames, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> good luck. >> thank you, sir. >> meanwhile, it's rush limbaugh's first interview since being rushed to the hospital. >> it was a scary thing and i thought it was a heart attack. i thought it was a big one, never had pain like that. they thought it was a heart attack. >> much more from gretchen's exclusive interview coming up next. plus jim belushi, bruce jenner, dave ramsey and melissa rivers. it's all here. a line-up that's all star straight ahead. health mart pharmacies are locally owned our pharmacists combine expert knowledge and personal attention. no wonder jd power and associates ranked health mart highest in customer satisfaction. see if you live in a health mart town at healthmart.com >> rush limbaugh has not sat down for an interview since being rushed to the hospital in december in hawaii. i got the chance to sit down with him over the weekend in las vegas where he was a guest judge at the miss america pageant. we talked about everything from women to politics to that day he thought he was having a heart attack. >> it was a scary thing, and i thought it was a heart attack. i thought it was the big one and i've always wondered when i heard people say they had chest pains, what it felt like. now i know. so i went to the hospital in the ambulance, the whole thing. they gave me some nitro that took care of the pain. i never had pain like that. nitro fixed the pain. that's why they thought it was a heart attack and then they gave me an angiogram and chest x-ray and nothing, there was no blockage. there was no disease. no coronary things wrong and the cholesterol is in the low end of normal and the chest x-ray was clear so they couldn't figure it out. best guess was that they think i had a viral infection in one of the arteries that caused the spasm. and i was really mad my cholesterol was low. it's not supposed to be that way. >> that's good news for you now. >> it's excellent. it's the cleanest bill of health i've had in a long time. i would have never gone in to get an angiogram for anything and this is great news. they showed me the pictures. 100% healthy. >> so much of america was nervous including the executives at the miss america pageant who right away were saying to me, oh, my goodness, i hope rush is going to be ok. and now here we are in las vegas and you're one of the judges. >> yeah, i am. >> of the miss america pageant. what made you say yes to this request? >> i grew up watching it, i decided to do it and only then did i find out what the real work is. it's -- folks, this is a big time serious thing. one thing, there's nothing frivolous about this. there's no frivolity at all. it's very serious and these women have devoted their lives in most cases to this week. and i asked -- first time we got in here, going through the judges orientation and i said why do you entrust this to a bunch of rank amateurs? the olympics doesn't do this. they said it works. we've done this forever and this is miss america and you all are representatives of various aspects of american culture, and it always works. >> have you been more impressed or less impressed with the quality and caliber of the women you've met? >> there's a group of 53 here. and i would say that the vast majority of them are confident and poised as they speak. that's one of the things i was looking for. we interview each one of them for about 10 minutes and that's what takes -- that's about 14 hours over two days and there's nowhere for them to hide. >> especially from you. >> yeah. gretchen, i've talked to women here who know more about various political issues than elected people i've talked to on the phone. it's -- i've really been impressed with all of them. >> so for those who were critics of you in judging this pageant and saying that you were -- you haven't been a supporter of women in the past. >> i'm a huge supporter of women. what i'm not is a supporter of liberalism. feminism is what i oppose and feminism has led women astray. i love women. i don't know where this gets started. i love the women's movement especially with walking behind it. this idea that i don't like women is absurd! and this is miss america and if there's a mr. america out there, it's me. so this is a perfect fit. >> let's talk a little bit about politics. >> all right. >> because while you were out here in vegas, there was a big state of the union speech, president obama. >> obama speech. >> so i assume you had a chance to see it even though you've been working nonstop. >> well, yeah, i gave up after 50 minutes. i heard it all before. there was nothing new in it. the only difference was the tone. i went back and listened to some of his soaring rhetorical speeches during the campaign, this was defensive, petulent, immature, childish, sarcastic. he's clearly angry that he's been rejected his wonderfully brilliant ideas, health care and cap and trade have been rejected. i saw a guy, a young, inexperienced guy just mad. i think, gretchen, i think -- i really do. i think this is the first time in his life that there's not a professor around to turn his c into an a or to write the law review article for him that he can't write. he's totally exposed. there's nobody to make it better. i think he's been covered for all of his life. fact that his agenda has totally failed this year is the best thing that could have happened to this country. i thank god every day that this is going down the tubes. that that massachusetts election happened. not that god had anything to do with it. that's the person i thank. >> the scott brown election, where do you think that will factor into in a historic perspective? >> that's just the tip of the iceberg. that's an indication of what's coming in november. i mean, i don't think -- i think the democrats are rocked back on their heels more than they're letting on. they're shocked. if there is ever an entitlement in politics, it's the kennedy seat. and it's gone. and it wasn't even close. >> he didn't mince words. when have you ever known rush ever to mince words? he was pretty straight forward. again, not saying that he wants president obama to fail personally. but he wants his policies to fail. that's just how rush believes. now, tomorrow, he answers the question about whether or not he will ever run for political office. and yes, he gives me a very definitive answer. yes or no? want to take a crack at that. >> he would never want to take the pay cut. i'm going with no. >> i'm going to say no, too. >> i'm not going to tell. until tomorrow. >> let's tune in tomorrow. >> all right. great job. meanwhile, here we are almost straight up at 7:00. the ballots are set. who will take president obama's place in the u.s. senate to represent the state of illinois? 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>> i would agree with that. >> mr. muller? >> agree. >> that was the unanimous agree so what's being done to prevent an attack? >> all right. he says he's got a sex tape with former senator john edwards and his mistress but can he sell it? plus the lengths he went to help edwards cover up secrets and why he was afraid for his life. john edwards' long time aide is here live. steve? >> brian, it's six degrees of separation for bruce jenner and jim belushi. huh? how are these two celebrities linked? they'll be here to explain just that. meanwhile, our slogan this hour comes from barbara in alabama. it's early in the morning and i'm having trouble rhyming so i'm just going to drink my coffee and watch steve, gretchen and brimam. >> this is joan rivers and if you are smart, you're watching "fox & friends." and if you are dumb, you're not so be smart! >> joan rivers' daughter melissa will be with us coming up very shortly. >> all right. meantime, voters in illinois, remember, there was that election yesterday. they picked their party candidate to battle it out for president obama's old senate seat. and carl cameron is live for us this morning in chicago. all right. good morning, carl. thank you so much for getting up so early. so who did the voters choose on both sides? >> well, on the republican side, they chose mark kirk. he was the odds on favorite and had a hefty, hefty lead in the polls heading into yesterday's election and this morning, he's victorious with a 3-1 victory. mark kirk is a five term republican congressman from illinois' 10th congressional district and considered to be a very strong nominee, perhaps the strongest republican nominee illinois has put up for a u.s. senate seat in the last 20 years or so. and the g.o.p. is particularly confident about it. he's a fiscal conservative, socially moderate, supports abortion rights, gay rights, and some gun control laws. kind of in vain of south brown of massachusetts and the republicans were big on trying to keep that reform movement message going that brown made famous in massachusetts and the idea that people are sort of fed up with the general direction of the country and the general direction of democratic control here in illinois. kirk last night at his victory rally had the commensurate celebration, you would expect him to be pretty excited having culminate a win many expected. here's a little of what he had to say in victory. >> one political party cannot hold all the answers and that one political party should never hold all the power. >> and in illinois, democrats really do virtually in illinois, virtually every single major statewide elected office is held by democrats and has been. in the last 50 years, seven of the last u.s. -- seven of the last nine u.s. senators elected from the state have been democrats. so kirk has an opportunity to -- for a republican pickup that would be a huge feather in the cap for republicans insofar as this is the state once occupied by president obama. his potential democratic successor is alexi ginoulias. he is a state treasure, your tr guy, he pulled out a win last night. the battle is already under way. there's unity breakfasts on both sides. he had the big democratic turnout last night and a more contested race. lot more serious competition from the democrats and he's trying to bring them together and unite the opposition to hold off republicans from winning barack obama's former senate seat. listen to giannoulis. >> tonight, the voters of illinois sent a message loud and clear. in the midst of this dreadful economic crisis, they want a senator who will fight to limit the power of washington special interests. and protect illinois families. >> as you listen to what he was saying there, voters want their u.s. senator to fight washington intentional interests. it's fairly ironic in illinois to be heard. this is the state that gave rise to barack obama's political life. and he now is one of the things that even democrats are sort of talking about. this is also a state that's had tremendous problems with democratic corruption internally, rod blagojevich's trial takes place later this summer. that will be a huge boone for republicans it will draw to the state the headlines of all the democrat lock on power. republicans think they could follow up with a win in massachusetts possibly with barack obama's seat in illinois come november and maybe even the vice president's seat in delaware. it would be something. ted kennedy, barack obama and joe biden's senate seats all flipped in the course of one year. >> carl, great report. can you get up every day and be live with us at 7:00? >> no. >> all right. carl cameron live from the windy city. >> almost had him. very thorough. thank you. >> let's talk a little bit about what happened yesterday on capitol hill. did you hear some of those hearings and see some of them? they were alarming. they were talking specifically about the underwear bomber. and whether or not he's still providing key intelligence information to us since he was given the rights of any other ordinary u.s. citizen. guess what? they did say that they're still getting information from him. you're wondering how. listen. >> it is also my understanding that mr. abdulmutallab has provided valuable information. is that correct? >> yes. >> thank you. and that the interrogation continues despite the fact that he has been mirandized. >> yes. >> it's like they said no, no, no. must have been somebody else. >> if they play that backwards, it says paul's dead. >> it says on, on, on if you're playing it backwards. what's interesting is apparently, remember, the administration has taken a lot of heat. why did they read him his rights that any ordinary american would have because he's not an ordinary american and we wound up getting only 50 minutes of intel during the interrogation with the f.b.i. there in detroit. now, we're learning that apparently, he has just recently within the last week started talking again. but it was an unlikely source that provided that. apparently, his dad was flown along with some other family members from nigeria to the united states, talked to the son and said look, you are standing accused of using an airplane as a weapon of mass destruction. you can go away for the rest of your lives and the rest of all of our lives. please cooperate. so he told them what he still had which was valuable. that's where he was trained. and who was with him. but, you know, there was so much other information that was perishable, you know, no longer good after all these many weeks, you've got to wonder, you know, maybe they should have flown the data out the next day. >> put it this way, this was must see tv yesterday. they went on to say what about other attacks? you know, the intelligence committee wants to know what is in the works. this is pretty alarming as gretchen mentioned before, high possibility of an attack within the next three to six months. and eventually says it's certain. here's something the intelligence director said that the bush administration backed off on. he said al-qaida will remain intent on attacking the u.s. as long as osama bin laden and the second in command are killed and captured. until they're killed and captured, they backed off on that because they wanted to make it seem and maybe it does seem, if you just kill those two, the mission would continue. but that is indeed the case, then we should spare no expense to getting those two. >> that's why they say the drone attacks. >> what's the underpinning, though, of the politics that were being played out yesterday? here's what it is. the reason that dianne feinstein asked those questions is because she wants the general public in america to know that we're still getting information from the underwear bomber because the administration, her same party, has come under immense attack for giving this guy rights that he probably shouldn't have had so they wanted to let everyone in america know that the president may have made a good decision along with eric hold other that when they read him his miranda rights and by the way, is there always a father up there? i bought this up at 6:00 much the father is saving their pants right now because he came over to this country and has convinced this guy to talk. no pun intended. >> the pants are exploding. >> no pun intended. there's not always going to be a father. third point is whether or not this guy -- do you feel comfortable with a terrorist getting a deal? i don't. >> a plea bargain. well, here's one of the shocking and eye opening jaw dropping soundbites. listen to this. >> what is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the u.s. homeland in the next three to six months? high or low? director blair? >> an attempted attack, the priority is certain, i would say. >> mr. panetta? >> i would agree with that. >> mr. muller? >> agree. >> that last guy was the director of the f.b.i. dennis blair, the director of the n.i.a. said that the underwear bomber should have been interrogated by special terrorism expert, rather than the f.b.i. if they had a do over, sounds like they would do it that way. >> meanwhile, more news you need to know. gretchen, disturbing news now we have. fox news alert. >> fox news alert, look at new video now of iran successfully firing a satellite rocket into space. iran's president mahmoud ahmadinejad calls it a huge breakthrough. how does the west feel about it? well, they're worried. iran could use the technology, of course, to launch nuclear warheads. hearings are held on capitol hill about repealing the pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. there's already a good deal of opinion on both sides. >> you could argue, then, that the military in general is not a test bed for the social, you know, divisive social issues but especially now. >> our country is fighting two wars and our national security is more important than ever in the face of global threat of terrorism. we've got to ensure that our best men and women can serve in the military and kicking people out because they're gay and lesbian is absurd. >> the pentagon says it's going to take a year to eliminate the ban on gays and says it's not a question of whether to do it but how to do it best. michael jackson's personal doctor could turn himself in today. prosecutors expect to file a criminal complaint charging dr. conrad murray with involuntary manslaughter. murray gave jackson a powerful anesthetic and two other sedatives the day he died, allegedly. jackson's death was ruled a homicide. conan o'brien reportedly helping out his former staffers from "the tonight show." the web site tmz.com saying he's helping those who did not get any money from his deal with nbc by paying 50 stagehands for at least six weeks of work. and those are your headlines. >> conan the generous. >> we'll see where he ends up. he said he hid deep dark secrets about john edwards and his mistress for years. andrew young telling us eechl be here live next. [ female announcer ] pure ce sugar and the stevia plant. two of nature's sweetest wonders now in new sun crystals, the only 100% natural sweetener made with pure cane sugar and stevia. with just 5 calories a packet. new sucrystals all-natural sweetener. >> the man who tried to take the fall for john edwards coming forward this hour when he calls the real story in releasing a salacious tell all book about the former presidential candidate's affair and the attempts to cover up that affair. >> the author of the new book "the politician" andrew young is here live. it's a fascinating book. i've gotten through most of the story in here. the biggest question i have is why the heck -- i don't care how much you idolize john edwards or thought he should be president. why would you cover for him in this way and say you were the father of this child? >> in hindsight, it's completely a rational question. what had happened is this is the end of a 10 year period where my family and myself had worked. i had worked 16 hours a day, seven days a week. you know how political campaigns are. we -- and there's also, you need to make a mark between the beginning and the end. john edwards at the beginning was the person i believed him. it's right after his first son had died. he was a good man. >> when he ran for president the first time. >> when he was first elected to the senate up until when he ran the first time. he was a great guy to be around. we'd go to basketball games. our kids played together. we vacationed today. i truly -- our families were very tight. and then as the years kept on going on, being -- there's a fine line and it's hard to tell between somebody who is an arrogant ass and somebody who is an ambitious, driven person. and he went back and forth between those two. after 2004, after he lost the nomination with kerry, after he and kerry lost, he considered himself a president in waiting. and a lot of people, billionaires in russia, tony blair in england, leaders across the united states treated him like a future president and his head went crazy. >> so we talk about when we've heard so much about it. it's all in the book, rielle hunter and he ends up having an affair. when you first picked up on this, did you think about jumping in and saying stop it, you're blowing this whole thing. >> several people including myself expressed -- i mean, i never out and out -- when you're working on a presidential campaign, i never went out and out and said stop. but i did express concern over who is this strange woman. she wasn't like anybody who would ever come -- we have a ton of people to come in and out of the campaigns. >> you knew about other previous affairs. you've been disclosing that now. >> but only after i became his complete confidant. there were things that i missed, signs that i missed that i should have known looking back in hindsight but after i became his complete confidant, they told me way more than information than i cared to know. >> and you opened up in the book, you go to a little league game and everybody is talking about you. that's the guy with his wife that fathered a kid out of wedlock. that's one of the biggest nightmares and you didn't do it. >> we live three miles apart from each other. our kids play little league against each other and the edwards actually walk about 75 yards around the cars to avoid facing us. >> andrew, if you would stick around, because we have so many other questions for you. >> of course. >> including a statement from john edwards about how he feels about your book. that's coming up right after the break. in meantime, bruce jenner went from olympian to reality show dad and jim belushi going from the small screen back to theaters. what do they have in common? find us when they join us together. >> we're back with andrew young, john edwards' former aide and author of the new book "the politician." i want to go back to this cover story that edwards came up with, with you being and claiming to be the father. did you and did he actually think that the american public would fall for this? >> the amazing thing about this whole, crazy, ridiculous story is that it actually did work. for eight months, it actually did work. >> not really, though. because there were so many rumblings within the media. i know you say that the mainstream media did not pick up on it. that's why did it did work. >> it rumbled across the internet and people forget between the time we took the fall for this, december 18th and january 1st, edwards actually went into first place in iowa and in the latest book, he says if obama would have lost iowa, the outcome might have been completely different. >> here's what john edwards has said through his lawyer. while we've not had an opportunity to review the interview or read the book, we urge extreme caution. it's obvious there are many allegations that are simply false. it appears that andrew young is primarily motivated by financial gain and media attention. andrew, your response to that? >> like my grandfather used to say, that's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. >> gotcha. i want to find out why you feel as though your life was really in jeopardy, maybe is really in jeopardy. >> i don't think it is anymore. i mean, i think now that -- once we got the book done and got the whole truth out, we feel confident and comfortable going forward but at the point this all started, you have to remember we were surrounded by billionaires, very powerful trial lawyer, trial lobby and a guy that's worth $50 million and to -- you know, maybe it was my imagination but i've read enough john grisham novels to realistically think that we were in danger. >> you also worry about vince foster, right? >> when he took me on the car ride, that's all i could think of. there was an old tape for all the people that had died in mysterious deaths around clintons. >> now, let me ask you this -- one of the things that was amazing to me in this book was how all these rich people continued to just dole out millions and did they know that they were supporting this affair and this pregnancy and this illegitimate child? >> well, but you have to remember fred baron, his ultimate goal, you know, trial lawyers desperately wanted john edwards as attorney general because of potential tort reform. they desperately wanted him in there. >> he would have done anything to cover. >> after him walking into the beverly hilton, he told me over and over again, if you look at all the polls at that time, leading into -- in july when he walked into the beverly hilton, he was the one that helped obama the most in all the polls as a v.p. >> did john edwards hope and dream he'd be together with rielle hunter if elizabeth edwards died from cancer? >> he would say that in front of her. more realistically, i think that -- i think he was in love with rielle hunter and with elizabeth. >> i'm sorry. you finish your answer. beverly hilton is where things were taken in the enquirer and everything was published. in the big picture, are you disappointed in yourself that you would allow yourself to get caught up in this and sacrifice yourself and your reputation for that guy? >> if you read the book, i mean, the whole book, the first 150 pages is about how i got to this point. it doesn't make sense if you start at where we made this decision. it's a story about how people get to and get involved in politics. it's almost like a cult, you know. you believe that the guy you're pulling for, the one that you're pulling for is it. and i've said it 1,000 times and said it to my wife's family a million times, i'm going to try to be the best person i can be from here on out. i know i made the biggest mistake, the hugest mistake and i can apologize a million times from tuesday. i think john edwards and i both owe a huge apology. i think that john edwards ought to do something about returning the $110 million that he raised from a lot of people who couldn't afford to give $50 or $100. >> help the war on poverty. >> instead of going to haiti and doing a promo show, go to places 15 miles from his house and help people there. >> andrew young, the book is "the politician." it's a salacious read to say the least. thanks for being our guest today. >> very nice talking to you. >> nice meeting you. >> nice meeting y'all. >> are you struggling with credit card debt or making ends meet? do you need extra insurance? dave ramsey is here to answer some questions from our viewers. >> and how do you think these two guys are connected? jim belushi and bruce jenner? we draw the parallels. it's going to spook them. [music playing] when you take away all the canned chicken broth that adds msg, one stands alone. the secret is swanson 100% natural chicken broth. >> welcome back, everybody. that was the back of steve's head. >> i was hiding my coffee cup. >> i'm just saying -- >> no need to hide. we all know we need caffeine, at least some of us do early in the morning and we need it to do some of the headlines, don't we? the u.s. climate chief is refusing to apologize for a big mistake. he says he will not resign over a mistake in a key climate change report in 2007 that said himalayan glaciers would melt away by 2035. >> oops. >> it was 2036. >> it was baseed on a report written in a science journal. the author later admitted it was not based on facts. he says he cannot be held responsible for every word in his 3,000 word report on global warming. >> oh, really? meanwhile, mistakes by the pilot not bad weather probably caused last year's fatal air crash in buffalo. the ntsb says inadequate training and procedures also contributed to the accident. 50 people were killed on february 12, 2009. >> massachusetts officials say they expect to formally certify scott brown's election to the senate today. then he'll be sworn in on february 11th. the senator-elect held a beer summit with a local radio host to live up to one of his first campaign promises. brown, of course, drove himself to the pub in his now legendary green truck. >> when hostages were taken in iran, they are still popular but not with everyone. especially in connecticut. there's a vote tonight on whether they'll be allowed in the center of town. molly lind joins us live. could this be true? >> well, you know, many people see yellow ribbons as a simple sign of support for america's troops. here in litchfield, connecticut, they mark a dividing line between folks here in town that want to see the yellow ribbons stay up and a town board that would like to see them taken down. the board of warden say that these ribbons have been not cared for well and they should be brought down and if these ribbons are left up, that other ribbons, multicolored ribbons and political statements could be part of the landscape. here's one of the board members explaining their take. >> we are not unpatriotic. i'm a vietnam vet. and i was in the united states army. and we all support the troops. >> now, of course, there are folks here in town that want to see these ribbons stay up and are fighting to make that happen. here's leslie karan, one of the spokeswomen putting these ribbons up. >> i got two kids in this fight so it hits very close to home. so i just appreciate all the men and women that are serving. i have a lot of friends whose children are serving right now. and i just think they need to be represented. in a very visual way. >> both sides in this issue would like to see some sort of r resolution reached tonight in a town meeting. town officials have received emails, phone calls, letters basically accusing them of being unpatriotic and worse, this has caused quite a bit of division in the town and they'd like to see it come to some sort of compromise this evening. back to you. >> all right, molly, live in connecticut. let's take a look at the weather. starting with some pictures out of richmond, virginia, this morning. look at this. a huge block of ice falling on the glass canopy at richmond city hall. nobody thankfully, kaboom, was that the ice or the glass? >> how does that happen? >> gravity. >> gravity. sure. thank you, sir isaac newton. but the entrance of the building was immediately closed to the public following the ice fall. good thinking, guys. meanwhile, let's take a look. we have a little bit of snow lingering in portions of the northeast. otherwise it's heading out to sea. we have some rain coming up from mexico. thank you very much. and as you can see, it's affecting folks in new mexico and arizona and texas. the balance of the country is nice and dry. and currently, it is bitterly cold in the northern plains, if you consider 3 in minneapolis bitter. >> i do. >> why not? it's worse in caribou, up in maine, 14 below? we got 30 in new york city and about 38 in atlanta out at the airport. real quickly today's daytime highs, it's going to warm up to 18 in caribou fortunate. hang on. 24 in minneapolis. 42 in kansas city. 40's and 50's from the mid atlantic down along the gulf coast. 60's in portions of florida and some upper 50's in lower texas. all right. brian? >> you got our guest entranced. >> i know, they're watching. >> four people injured when a small stage collapses outside sun life stadium. nothing but bad news today. home of the super bowl. the league says the victims who did not suffer bad injuries were volunteers helping to set up the stage. thank you very much. i don't want to bore you with the details there, ok. indianapolis colts owner wants to make peyton manning the highest paid quarterback in nfl history. manning is fighting this every step of the way. ursay says he doesn't want to wait. he's one of four quarterbacks ever to throw for 50,000 yards and started in 209 consecutive games including the playoffs. they made the right choice. i'm going to be at shula's on friday, expecting a live audience, friday, saturday, sunday and monday. be down there. we'll be in fort lauderdale on the beach. it will be a struggle. he was heralded a hero leading the giants to a super bowl championship two years ago almost to the day. now, he's in the slammer. plaxico burris tells his ex-coach he's not putting out a return to the nfl. he carried an unlicensed gun that went in a new york city nightclub. he shot himself in the thigh. quick look at what's happening in sports. and of course, that will be the halftime show. >> what do jim belushi and bruce jenner have in common? more than you might think. in fact, we've done some completely unscientific research to make these connections. >> get ready, guys. >> jim belushi acted with tim allen in "joe somebody." tim allen linked to billy crystal in the movie "cars." >> right. >> billy crystal started rabbit test directed by joan rivers. joan rivers is melissa rivers' mother and melissa rivers and bruce jenner were on the reality show "i'm a celebrity, get me out of here" and melissa rivers is going to follow you on the show today. >> i couldn't believe that! we're related. >> wow. >> we are related. >> back part there. >> that's terrific. >> fantastic. there's an absence of facts. it doesn't matter. you're like brothers. >> that's how the news works here at fox. >> we can find a connection. >> unbelievable what you guys can do. >> i know. it's amazing. >> so you share so much and we're going to talk about some serious stuff but first, can we talk a little bit about the stuff in the news? >> why not? sure. >> hit me with it. >> first of all, new orleans saints are probably going to win the super bowl. >> i'm for that. >> by the way, you are going to the super bowl and be with my daughter, kim, right? >> so to speak. what we're going to do is follow her around friday night to get a taste of the kardashian magic which you experience every day and you bring. >> i'm telling you. >> how did he get that ticket? >> i don't know. >> how did you get that? >> there's a link. >> jim, what do you think? do you think kim and reggie will eventually get married? the word is that reggie bush, the outstanding running back and does so much more for the saints will marry kim if they win the super bowl. what is your insider take? >> i try to stay out of those kinds of relationships. i always get in trouble when i predict those kinds of things. >> so do i. >> big time. >> yeah. i get in big time trouble for that one. >> i wouldn't recommend marriage to anybody right away. i mean, it's a big commitment. >> they've been together for two years. >> marriage is a big commitment. can we run with that? >> run with that. >> yeah. >> actually that's one of the smartest things that's been said today. >> been married a few times so i -- you know. >> mr. belushi, your life would make a fantastic reality show. i'm sure mr. jenner would tell you it's great having those camera guys. >> seeing everything. >> i'll tell you, between, you know, these black berries with cameras and regular, you know, flip videos, my house is being videotaped all the time. we have footage of everything in the house. >> everything? >> yes, everything actually. very good footage, by the way. >> let's talk about something i'm an expert at and that's love and relationships. >> sure. >> what is your reaction to this -- visceral gut reaction to this? it turns out that couples will spend less on each other this valentine's day according to a scientific study that gretchen has been working on and less for their spouse but more for their friends and co-workers. bruce, will you take that? what's your theory on this? >> this is how it works in my home, ok? my lovely wife chris, ok, she kind of searches out there for the month leading up to valentine's day. >> a month. >> a month leading up. she's like a professional shopper. she's very, very good at it. i'm not good at that. ok? so what she does is like usually the week before valentine's day i get a phone call from her and i say honey, you just bought me your valentines present and she actually buys what she wants. if i get it, it's always not -- it's not the right color. it's not the right size. so she actually buys her own valentines calls me up and tells me congratulations, i just bought the valentines. thank you. it works very well that way. we've been married coming up on 20 years now. >> now you have ammunition now. apparently she's only supposed to spend $63.34 this year. >> how far will that get you on valentine's day? >> yeah, yeah. >> no. >> when is valentine's day? >> it's sunday night. you might be -- >> i am on the road with copd on that night. >> yeah. >> i don't know if i'll be able to be around at that time. >> that's true. >> for guys watching right now, if you want to be like jim belushi, what is a good valentine's day gift? >> listening. >> that is so good. that sounds like a therapist's conclusion. >> no, it actually works. >> it does. >> really? >> just listen. >> that's two smart things you've said today. >> i'm getting better. >> can you stick around? >> you can listen, if you listen all night, you can give them a napkin at the restaurant and they'll be happy. >> bruce, how glad are you that jim belushi turned down overtures to go into the olympics in the 1970's, therefore preventing -- not preventing you from winning the decathlon. that man could have won and mirrored your success. >> absolutely he could have. great athlete. we train together, don't we? >> all the time. >> all the time we train together and work out together, you know, really. >> you know what's funny -- what's funny, with age, he gets a little more winded now. >> not you. >> not me. >> you're right there. he works right through it and everything. >> what's his specialty at the gym? 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>> well, we are continuing the conversation with bruce jenner and jim belushi. they are joining us. there's a cause that has united the both of you. it's copd. a lot of people hear that but they don't know what it is. >> exactly. we have -- both of our families have been affected by copd. now, it is basically lung disease. it's either emphysema, chronic bronchitis. my wife's grandparents both died of emphysema and it was the toughest thing for the family to go through. >> my father had chronic bronchitis and we've lived with it for years and the hacking and the coughing. very dramatic in the house. not only for him but for us. we'd actually leave the room. yeah, yeah. it was hard to live with and so we're going to go on the road to do some screeners across the country. we actually have a race. he's going one way. i'm going the other way. >> we are kicking this thing off today. >> right here! >> on this show. because it doesn't get any better than this, right here, we're kicking this thing off. >> yeah. >> basically, what we're doing is trying to build awareness. this is an awareness campaign that we have a group of athletes. we will actually be starting at daytona. >> group of athletes, i'm included. >> yeah. athletes and actors, i'm sorry. >> yeah, we're going to start in about a week or week and a half at the nascar race in daytona and it is called the -- we are going to drive across the united states building awareness about copd. >> sounds like a funny movie. >> and what we're doing is copd is the number four cause of death in the united states. >> 24 million people that have it. and more than half of them don't even know they have it. >> yeah. so this awareness campaign, i mean, it kills more people than breast cancer and diabetes combined. >> wow. >> you know about those things. but copd, you don't and so many people don't get detected early. so what we want people to do, we have a web site which actually started last night at 11:00, it opened up last night. and -- >> right now. >> actually called drive4copd.com. there's a screener, a test that you can take. even if it's not you, maybe -- for a lot of kids, their parents. they notice their parents are coughing a lot or shortness of breath, take this test and depending on how you score, you may want to go see your doctor and have this thing checked out because there's a lot of things that you can do in the early stages to manage the disease. and it's extremely important. i mean, i saw the effects first hand about emphysema and what it can do. it's the worst thing. not only for the person but the entire family. >> people can go to four web sie as well. people will be able to come and see you and also be screened. >> yes, we will be going across the united states like i've got this big old camper. >> camper? >> my camper is a little bigger. it's got -- >> what's your route? >> i'm going raleigh, washington, d.c., philadelphia, boston. >> i go towards california. i go out through dallas. >> i know what you're like to hang out with from the kardashians and jim, i can imagine what you're like to hang out with. we're available if you need some people to hang out with. >> whole life in the trailer. let me tell you. >> we would love to have you on the road. >> can i have my own bathroom? >> you can. >> all right, jim belushi, we thank you both. >> thanks for helping us kick this thing off. we're going on the road. >> on the road. >> on the road on valentine's day. >> bruce is happier than jim. >> you got some valentine's day advice from these two guys. now you're looking to get married? are you buried in credit card debt? what do you do? pay down your debt or save up for the big day? >> or go on the road with us? >> dave ramsey has the answers. >> first on this day in history in 1959, buddy holly were killed in a private plane crash in iowa frpt that's a pick me up. the u.s. enacted a trade embargo on cuba. i have an idea we'll keep that intact and also, gavin hadden v is born to our producer. that's breaking news and that happened this morning. would you like to spend a little more time and a little less money? then check out bass pro shops for great deals on great gear. save 20% on original stren fishing line. and the garmin nuvi 255w is only $149.94. >> the answer to the trivia question of the day. blythe danner. congratulations. >> no relation. >> to? >> rupert. >> what about her husband? >> that's a good point. many americans are struggling with credit card debt and rising interest rates so how can you make it through this tough economy? let's talk to dave ramsey who is joining us right now from nashville. good morning to you, dave. >> good morning, guys. >> got some email for you. >> ok. >> here's christie from montana. she says dave, dear dave, we just purchased term life insurance. my husband also gets it from his work. but they deduct at least part of the premium from his pay. should we continue with this policy or cancel it and put it for money for investment? >> well, you need to compare it. term life at work or other kinds of life insurance at work are not necessarily cheaper than they are in the marketplace. and side note, you never want to have all your life insurance at work because if you get diabetes, have a cancer scare, have a heart attack, something and then you leave work, you're uninsurable and you can't get more insurance and you left all your other insurance back at work. so always have some outside of work and remember, it's not always cheaper at work. >> good point. >> let's hear from john. he's in oklahoma. now that i have paid off my credit cards, should i cancel them? i have heard that it will affect my credit score. i have five credit cards to cancel. i know that your immediate answer might be to cut them up. i know that. i have this same question because is it true that your score can deteriorate if you cancel your cards? >> if you quit borrowing money, your score is going to deteriorate. the only way to keep your fico score up is to continue borrow money and play with the banks. so if you decide that the best way to become wealthy is to get out of debt, then you're going to lose your fico score eventually. and so you can't worship at the altar of the great fico and actually become wealthy. >> nate from illinois writes i'm looking to get married. should i stop paying down my debt so i can save for the wedding and pay cash? >> yes. and that's not just a valentines question. the reality is you're going to have a wedding. and i don't want you to go into debt to do that because you paid off debt over here. so put your total money make-over debt reduction plan on hold temporarily. pile up cash for the wedding. if it's a reasonable amount. as soon as the wedding is over, live a life under control and not spend more than you make because you're not in congress. >> dave ramsey lives every day happily ever after on the fox business network. check him out this evening. always a pleasure. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> coming up on the show, the nation's top intelligence chief says that al-qaida will attack us by july? we're talking about a large scale terror attack, folks. >> then science labs being lashed because they're being -- they serve too many white kids. the money being spent to help minority kids. the plan sparking controversy. fair and balanced debate next hour. we hope you're having a great wednesday morning, it's february 3, 2010. i got a chance to sit down with rush limbaugh in an exclusive interview and he's not holding back. listen. >> the fact that his agenda has totally failed this year is the best thing that could have happened in this country. >> much more from rush on president obama coming up this hour. >> i don't think he voted for him. >> it's rush hour. top intelligence chiefs say a terrorist attack is certain to happen by july. >> an attempted attack the priority is certain, i would say. >> mr. panetta? >> i would agree with that. >> mr. moeller? >> agree. >> attack is certain. the evidence straight ahead. >> it's been a year full of ups and downs at the white house. moments ago the first lady spoke out about her first year on the job. we're going to tell you what she said. our slogan this hour comes from diane in cape cod. gretchen's lovely, steve's a wit, but brianisms are always a hit. i'm not sure where i fall in. # hi, everybody. i'm bruce generaller and you are watching the best show on television, "fox & friends." >> he endorsed our show over his show, the kardashians. >> how crazy is that? >> which makes me think as though we should have had that magazine, dust off -- do you still have that magazine here? john the floor manager had this sports illustrated magazine here. this is bruce jenner at a different time, winning the decathlon. >> fantastic. >> it's on with the show. >> it is because the stage is now set. where? in illinois. the voters have turned out to choose the candidates who will run for president obama's old senate seat and fox's carl cameron is live there this morning. >> carl, i see you sent out an urgent about 14 minutes ago, minutes after the democrat won the rnc has already started a web attack. >> reporter: not the rnc, the national senate torial committee. they are out and they are pounding. we got the players set for who is going to compete to fill the seat ounce occupied by barak obama. the republican who won the nomination on the gop side was fond of saying, it's not barak obama's seat. it's the people's seat. folk also remember that line sort of borrowed from massachusetts miracle two weeks ago yesterday in which scott brown was able to win the people's seat that was once occupied by ted kennedy, the bay state. republicans are pumped. paul kirk won the big -- mark kirk won the victory last night and it is a real launch to what's likely to be tough. mr. kirk is a five term republican congressman. very popular in illinois. he is fiscally conservative, socially moderate. not unlike scott brown of massachusetts. and his democratic opponent will be electiony giannoulius. he is the state treasurer, a friend of barak obama, a basketball buddy from some time ago, and he ran into some problems in the tail end of the campaign when it was revealed his family business, broadway bank, had come up $75 million in losses last year. the feds are involved and there is questions about connections to corruption and there has been tough attack ads. look for the national republican senate committee to keep on pounding that. these were issues raised initially by democrats. here is a little of the victory speeches from the two last night, the republican and the democrat. >> one political party cannot hold all the answers and that one political party should never hold all the power. >> tonight the voters of illinois sent a message loud and clear.my in the midst of this dreadful economic crisis, they want a senator who will fight to limit the power of washington special interests and protect the jobs of everyday illinois families. [ cheers and applause ] >> this is going to be one of the most watched races in the country. it was not considered likely that illinois would have former senator barak obama's seat be as contentious and competitive as it is. this is a state that historically has been quite blue, quite democrats. democrats have virtually every major office in the state and have for some time. the national tone, the scandals and the corruption and the sort of governmental imcompetence that even illinois democrats are admitting plagued the state for the last few years have completely changed things. when you take the momentum that began in massachusetts with scott brown's win of that seat once occupied by ted kennedy two weeks ago, the apparent weaknesses of the democratic nominee chosen last night by illinois democrats against mark kirk, a veteran member of congress who will have plenty of money and a unified republican support, there is a real possibility that republicans could win here in illinois. that's punctuated by another reality. joe biden's seat in delaware is very competitive. leaning republican. so there is the potential for republicans to not just pick up ted kennedy's seat this year, but barak obama and joe biden's as well. >> campaign carl on the trail in the great city of chicago. carl, thanks for getting up early for us today on "fox & friends." >> you bet. >> fascinating. so is the war on terror. we're still in one. you want proof? the christmas day bomber we know about the p.e.t.n. he had in his underwear, crotch boy. now we find out that he is talking from prison after a visit from his family. he talked for about 50 minutes and then shut up after his miranda rights were read to him at the airport and in the hospital he was quiet after that. then we find out from the hearings yesterday that he was talking. that caught almost everyone except the lawmakers by surprise. it seemed like senator feinstein and wanted to elicit that response. >> some are wondering whether there is a deal on the table. they went to nigeria to get his father to come over and convince him to cooperate. will this be a vindication for president obama and his policy on the war on terror, along with the attorney general holder. will they be politically saved, at least on this particular topic because now we're finding out that, in fact, the crotch bomber is talking about possible other al-qaeda plots. >> here is the thing, according to the information in the papers today, they're saying that he is revealing who he trained with and where. now, wait a minute. why would we be revealing what this guy is telling us? sure, you might wind up a short-term political bump in the poll, but come on. if you're over in pakistan or wherever this guy did train, and suddenly you realize, wait a minute, they're talking about where he trained, let's move the tents! come on, how stupid is this? >> then they gave specific. >> they just said -- no, what the word that it is coming from senior officials is that he's talking and he's saying where he trained and who he trained with. so if you are at that place or if you're somebody who has a connection with them, you're going to go to ground. >> possibly. i also think -- this is a political game right now to show that, in fact, the way in which this was handled was the correct thing to do because the obama administration has been under so much heat, i think. >> but don't spill the beans. >> i think both of you are right, except for i think a clear thinking person who is schooled in firsthand war on terror knows that time sensitive intelligence is the key. not just the intelligence. so if you get this guy and find out exactly what cell he came from, what city he's from and the person who gave him the go sign and who was at the airport, you can go scoop those people up immediately as they empty their pockets and find out what he has to say. >> it may get some democrats back on board with the president who had gone to the flip side and say he handled this situation erroneously. think may come back and say, it is working this way. i think the debate will heat up. one thing we should be concerned about is whether or not another terrorist attack is imminent. that's what we should all be concerned about. yesterday all three top officials from the f.b.i., craig and the national intelligence division, they all said it could be within the next three to six months. >> yes, they did. >> until last week, had not even -- >> okay. that's the wrong sound bite. >> that's a tease for what we'll be talk being in a second. there is more to that story. >> and what we can say about that is they were queeried by senator fine sign. is a threat a chance high or low, i'm paraphrasing. one of them said an attack within the next three to six months is certain. now, it's not going to be a great big spectacular attack like 9-11 because they say that the drone attacks in pakistan have diminished al-qaeda's command and control capabilities. but it's the lone wolf. leon panetta talked about it's the one guy who is not part of a big cell network. that's the guy we got to worry about. >> they say they're looking for people and have people with clean records. from the moment they walk in to their web to they are within 18 months capable of going out and perpetrating the next attack being the next shoe bomber, crotch bomber, suicide bomber. >> let's move to the economy because this obviously is on the frontal lobe of most americans right now. this might get you steamed. remember aig, the insurance giant that received billions and billions in taxpayer bailout money? well, remember last year they paid out those big bonuses according to contracts they had to. and people were upset. now they're getting ready to pay out another $100 million in bonuses this year to the same group of people that actually, the division that needed our bailout money. >> financial product. >> to continue to do some of these risky deals. so where do you fall on this? do you honor the contract or do you say, this sounds so lewd chris. they haven't paid the taxpayers back, and yet these people are going to get $100 million in bonus. >> the pay czar, feinberg would be able to crack down on city bank because they haven't paid back the tarp. so i'm wondering why they're letting this come out. but that is the deal on the books, but you can't stop ripping up contracts and deciding this doesn't work, this doesn't work. >> meanwhile, here is that sound bite that we saw a snippet. he's sitser on the colbert report talking about the whole mess in washington with money. >> the white house, until last week had not even begun to do what was critically necessary to restructure our financial services sector. >> why didn't he do it when he had 60 votes? >> that is a good question. many people were begging him to do it and i will say clearly the team of summers and geithner has been in my view, an abject failure. >> number nine was guess number one on the report. >> imagine he's wearing black socks. >> okay. >> tmi. >> i know what that means. >> now i have the headlines and fox news alert. new video of iran's successfully fire ago satellite rocket into space. their president, ahmadinejab, he's calling it a huge break through. what's the west saying? they're worried that iran could use the technology to launch nuclear war heads. i bet israel is a little nervous. top lawmakers are looking to revive the president's stalled health care overhaul beginning work on a compromise bill. senate majority leader says the definitive time line for anything getting done is not in the cards right now. >> we don't have days or a number of weeks to move forward on health care. we plan to do health care this year and do it as quickly as we can. >> republican scott brown's victory in the massachusetts special election provided the 41st republican vote necessary to block the original health care reformç bill. michelle obama speaking this morning about her first year as the nation's first lady. she says it's been an honor and privilege to hold the title and never imagined all the attention she would receive. >> every first lady who sat in these shoes or stood in these shoes has brought something very different to the task. that's sort of the beauty of this. we don't have a job description. so i think every model is one that i learn from, but my goal overall is just to be helpful. >> and mrs. obama says she hopes health care reform will pass before things get even worse. >> visit strait ahead, ram emmanuel says he's sorry for using the r word. but sarah palin, whose son has down syndrome says the apology is just not enough. >> and then rush limbaugh opening up about his health, politics and even women. >> the women's movement, this idea that i don't like women is absurd. >> more from my exclusive interview with rush coming up. rahm emanuel what is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the u.s. homeland in the next three to six months? high or low? director blair? >> an teamed attack, the priority is certain, i would city. >> mr. panetta? >> i would agree with that. >> mr. muller? >> agreed. >> agree. >> mr. danger? >> yes. >> going to be a fun summer. stern warning from the nation's top intelligence officials during a senate hearing yesterday. we've seen the slew of attack attempts just in the past year. does that mean our country is less safe right now because they're not pulling it off? does it make you feel like we're more safe? here for a fair and balanced debate, julian, the presidential historian at boston university and author of this book, arsenal of democracy. and john gibson is here. fox news radio host and author of the book, how the left voted america. first up julian, are we less safe now? >> i don't think we're less safe now. i think we have flaws in our counterterrorism system that have been around since the 1990s. i think we've improved the system and i think there is a lot of areas we still have to work on. i'm not convinced there is a huge uptick in threat. i think we're under a huge threat and it came clear on 9-11 and we're still there. >> yeah, but we're less safe if the nation's chief counterterrorism people are on vacation, won't come back from vacation when we have an attack. we're less safe if the president turns over counterterrorism to eric holder, to the civil justice system instead of the c.i.a. and the interrogators there and i think people feel less safe because they can see those things happen. >> i think one of the key holes that has been around is obviously intelligence sharing. that was evident when 9-11 and that was evident with the christmas bombing. it's an area we have to fix. i tend to look at the system rather than the person. >> julian, i think it's also important to point out a lot of democrats don't seem to be that comfortable with giving miranda rights to the next al-qaeda terrorist, let alone this one. >> i think the president both with guantanamo bay and with the new york city trial has had a problem politically in that you're right, there is a big division within the democratic party over how to handle these issues. >> john, if we are -- if it's agreed on the democrats and republicans are upset with not telling the national intelligence director when they have a al-qaeda in their midst, do you think the president can say, i learned on the job, i'll change, i'll grow with this thing? >> he should. bush did when they did the richard reid, the bush people said wait a minute, we got to change the law, created the enemy combatant status, approved by the supreme court. obama could have chosen that route. what's so troubling here is he said, hmm, i can take him to the brig in south carolina and interrogate him or i can mirandaize him? had which should i do? mirandaize him? really? >> that's why everyone listens to your show.ç john comes on at noon and julian, we'll read everything you write. at princeton. >> i'm going to put you in princeton. don't go to boston. you'll be off course. good job, julian. straight ahead, science labs being slashed because they serve too many white kids. that's being planned -- fair and balanced debate. the king of vegas makes plenty of money. what's up with wayne newton not paying his bills? time for some quick headlines on this wednesday. a group of u.s. baptist missionaries accused of trying to leave haiti with 33 haitian kids being questioned by a haitian judge yesterday. five women face several hours of questioning yesterday. five men will be questioned today. the group, church group, claims it was trying to help the children. president obama taking off the mayor of las vegas. the president said, americans should not blow a bunch of cash in vegas when they could be using the money to save for things like college. last winter president obama said no company getting bailout money should hold meetingsings in las vegas. oops. meanwhile, a controversial new plan to cut science labs at berkeley high school out in california has some parents outraged. why? because the proposal takes funds from advanced science classes to fund programs for struggling students. is that fair? steven sutter is a parent of two students at berkeley high school. he joins us live from to. and linda gonzalez is co-chair of the school governance council. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> linda, it's a little complicated. but essentially this plan that is making guys like steven unhappy is going to do what? >> well, essentially what it's going to do is it's going to try to really make sure that all students have access to high level science classes by looking at what are the problems in the current system that is failing 30% of our students and looking to see how we can make sure that everybody has access to those science labs as well as to the large curriculum in the entire high school. >> right. okay. steve, let me read you the lead line in a news story about this. a controversial proposal which linda just described, to slash science labs at berkeley high school that serve mostly white students in order to redirect resources to struggling black and latino youth have grabbed national headlines. what do you think of this plan? >> it's a terrible plan. it's a totally misdirected and irrational plan. not only that, it takes one ofu! the prime and most successful programs at berkeley high and cuts its legs off. it's extremely ill advised and extremely berkeley in every possible way you can imagine. it's almost embarrassing. >> let's talk a little bit about this, you got two kids at that school. it's going to -- it sounds like -- take away some science labs from your children. right? >> correct. basically they're going to be squeezing what was an x amount of time into 20% less time. if you consider that what students really need are strong teachers with high expectations and more time, this does nothing to address that. all it does is produce equity of mediocrity if nothing else. >> so linda, they're going to slash these particular science labs and they're going to use the resources for minority students, right? >> i want to make sure that we're really not looking at slashing science labs. we're really looking at thinking about how is it that all students can benefit from the rigorous curriculum. >> you are reducing it, right? >> we are reducing one and we're looking at how is it that we can make sure that all students can have access to the other high level science labs that we do have and that we do offer. >> okay. steve, does that sound okay? i mean, when you look at the statistic, it looks like the white students do better in certain things than the black students. don't you want everybody to get a good education? >> i want everyone, i want everyone, all kids and all the parents want all the kids to get a good education, but you have to step back a little bit. we have phenomenal programs in berkeley. we have free tutoring, we have low class sizes for students that need more assistance. we have a tremendous amount. we're on the margin here and, unfortunately, there is a back story to this. the back story is that this is basically stealing from the science department as it were is a bit of a pay back for the -- because science teachers sort of blew the whistle on the sort of modifications of transcripts and grades for the small class program that didn't perform. so there is, unfortunately, the berkeley muck behind all this thing. >> all right. we thank both of you for debating this this morning. we thank you for getting up so early out west. thank you. meanwhile, why in the world would john edwards' political aide pretend to be the father of edward's love child? that's the guy right there. we're going to talk to him with that exact question coming up next. then the research back in 1998 linked autism to the mmr vaccine. now that study is being retracted. and then rush limbaugh, on president obama. >> this was defensive petulant, immature, childish sarcastic, he's clearly angry that he's been rejected. >> more from gretchen's exclusive interview coming up. stay with us. welcome back, everyone. half past the hour. the suspected underwear bomber, guess what he's still talking? an investigators are listening very closely. >> that information coming out of the white house late last night. that's why wendell goaler has been scrambled to give us an idea of what's happening behind the scenes. wendell. >> reporter: i'm sorry. i can't hear you. i should point out i've got a problem, pushing back after several weeks of republican criticism over the decision to try the nigerian man who tried to bring down an airliner on christmas day in civilian court rather than to charge him as an enemy combatant. senior officials, briefed reporters here last night, not just defending the decision to try abdulmutallab in civilian court, but saying it's paying off with more information than they might have gotten if they charged him as an enemy combatant or taken him to gitmo as some republicans say was a missed opportunity. they say he's talking about his training in yemen, about al-qaeda and the c.i.a. is following up on the information. critics of the decision to try abdulmutallab say that he clammed up after authorities read him his miranda rights, that he got a lawyer and simply stopped talking and officials say that is, in fact, the case. but they continued the investigation. the f.b.i. flew to nigeria and talked with members of his family and it was family members who convinced abdulmutallab to cooperate with u.s. authorities, something they don't think he would have done if he had been in a military setting. what's more, officials say the process of deciding how to deal with him was the same as the bush administration followed in the later years after courts ruled that suspects must be provided with attorneys and there is now, officials say, some indication that abdulmutallab may actually plead guilty. back to you guys. >> all right. wendell on the north lawn of the white house where it sure is pretty today. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. america, have a heart. that's what canada's premiere -- actually the premiere of labrador and newfoundland is saying. he's coming to the united states for a heart surgery. but wait a minute, isn't canada supposed to be superior to the united states for surgery? this is not good if you're going to say, okay, the canadian system, which perhaps we could model ours on is great, but then you got one of the top guys for newfoundland coming here. >> the premiere is going to come to the united states for three to 12 weeks for heart surgery because in his providence, it takes up to 182 days. 182 days to get heart surgery. in that same process between 1997 and 2005, they had hundreds, hundreds of botched tests for cancer for women's breast cancer. and so there has been a litany of people -- if you remember those commercials involving the woman who went to the mayo clinic and spent her own money, $100,000 in arizona. rush limbaugh talked about the former quebec premiere who came to the united states for skin cancer treatment. so in some ways he's become not the poster boy for government health care. the premiere of this province coming to the united states for heart surgery, they had those same delays in that province for bare i can't tell trick surgery, scopies, hip surgery, knee surgery. so government run health care apparently isn't cracked up to what people say. >> let's call a spade a spade. they have no confidence in their own health care system if the guy who is running the place is running as fast as he can to america. right? >> it then appears to be the message. the man in charge says, i am not going to stay in canada. i am not going to wait for heart surgery. i don't have confidence in the ability of the procedures that they will do here and i will go to an undisclosed location in the united states. >> here is the president last night on the need and the push and the urgency of getting health care reform passed. >> the problem, though, is when you got all those things staying together, it ends up being a big complicated bill and it's very easy to scare the daylights out of people. and that's basically what happened. during the course of this year's debate. but here is the good news. we're essentially on the 5-yard line for those who like football analogies. we've had to go into overtime, but we are now in the red zone. that's exactly right. we're in the red zone. we've got to punch it through. >> is it possible to punch it through? does he still have the ball? >> apparently the red zone for the premiere of canada was a danger zone and he didn't want to die as a result of heart disease in government-run health care in canada. yeah, the president still has the ball on this issue and in in spite of the polls, in in spite of elections in three states, in spite of people saying this is not our interest, the president intends to push through on this. in spite of even the latest polls that say that even if the democrats force through, punch through health care like nancy pelosi says, going to jump the fence, jump the gate, parachute in, drop in, i mean, she's not scuba diving, that's the only thing she's not doing. the american people are still very concerned about what the democrats are doing on that issue. >> that is another example of the guy from canada comes to the u.s. and says save me. >> i hope somebody asks robert gibbs about that today. >> i hope they do. >> thanks, peter. your headlines for wednesday, more than 100 customers complaining about brake problems with the toyota prius, not part of the gas pedal recall. one is apple computer. he tells abc news his 2010prius sometimes speeds up suddenly and has nothing to do with the sticky gas pedal. he thinks the problem is in the software. >> i rented one and i didn't even know how to start it. white house chief of staff, rahm emanuel, apologizing after using the r word. it happened during a private meeting and published in a national paper. they wanted to air attacks attacking conservative democrats who were walking at president obama's health care overhaul. then he called those people that thought they should do that the r word. he apologized to the head of the special olympics. that's not enough for sarah palin. she has a son with down syndrome and says his remark is heart breaking and a slur on god's children. why not pick up the phone and call the former governor of alaska? >> the man who tried to take the fall for john edwards coming forward with what he calls the real story now. andrew young just released a tell-all book about the former presidential candidate's affair and the attempts to cover it up. he joined us earlier where he didn't pull any punches in defining edwards' character. >> there is a fine line and it's hard to tell between somebody who is an arrogant ass and somebody who is an ambitious driven person and he went back and forth between those two. after 2004, after he lost the nomination and with -- after he and kerry lost, he considered himself a president in waiting. >> john and elizabeth edwards officially, by the way, separated last week. this will be bigç news for parents today. the british medical journal, the lancet, is retracting now a landmark study from 1998 linking the rubella vaccine to autism. since the study came out, many parents abandoned the vaccine. subsequent studies showed it's not connected. although many parents are concerned. >> mr. las vegas, not so popular in michigan. an air service company says wayne newton owes them over $61,000 in parking fees. >> that's not the wayne you know. >> it's not. i didn't even know he had a jet. apparently he's run up a $2 million parking bill for his private jet. the plane has been setting there for three years. newton is not returning phone calls, the company says, and wants to junk the plane. >> right. i'll take it off his hands. >> no kidding. have to pay the parking bill first. >> we'll think about it. 19 minutes before the top of the hour. gretchen, exciting part 2 of your interview. >> rush limbaugh is part 1 again. he sat down in an interview and he's not holding back about president obama. >> the fact that his agenda has totally failed this year is the best thing that could have happened to this country. >> that's how rush feels and we'll hear more from him coming up next. >> and the chief of the fashion police department here live, mess lisa rivers, we'll weigh in. welcome back, everyone. rush him because has not sat down for an interview since december when he was vacationing in hawaii and rushed to a hospital. i got it chance to sit down with him. you're saying, what was he doing in las vegas? he was a guest judge at the miss america pageant. we talked about everything from women to politics to that day he thought he was having a heart attack. >> i feel great. it was a scary thing. i thought it was a heart attack. i thought it was the big one and i've always wondered when i heard people say they had chest pain what is it felt like. now i know. so went to the hospital in the ambulance, the whole thing. they gave me nitro. i never had pain like that. it fixed the pain. that's why they thought it was a heart attack. it dilates the arteries. then they gave me an angiogram and a chest x-ray and nothing. there is no blockage, there was no disease, no coronary things wrong and the cholesterol is low to normal and the chest x-ray was clear. so they couldn't figure it out. the best guess was that they think i had a viral infection in one of the arteries that caused the spasm. it really amazed me my cholesterol was low. it's not supposed to be that way. >> that's good for you now? >> oh, yeah. it's the cleanest bill of health i had. i would never have gone for an angiogram for anything. this is great news. they showed me the pictures. 100% healthy. >> so much of america was nervous, including the executives at the miss america packagent, were saying, i hope he'll be okay. now here we are in las vegas and you are one of the judges of the miss america pageant. what made you decide to say yes to their request? >> i've always been intrigued. i grew up watching it. so i decided to do it and only then did i find out what the real work commitment is. folks, this is big-time serious thing. one thing there is nothing frivolous about this. not at all. it's very serious and these women have devoted their lives in most cases to this week. i asked the first one, we got in here going through the judges interview, i say, why do you entrust this tan amateurs? they said it works. we've done this forever and this is miss america and you all are representatives of various aspects of american culture and it always works. >> have you been more impressed or less impressed with the quality and caliber of the women that you've met? >> there is a group of 53 here and i would say that the vast majority of them are confident and poised as they speak. that's one of the things i was looking for. we interview each one of them for about ten minutes. that's about 14 hours over two days. and there is nowhere for them to hide. >> especially from you. >> gretchen, i've talked to women here who know more about various political issues than elected people i've talked to on the phone. i've really been impressed with all of them. >> so for those who were critics of you in judging this pageant and saying that you were -- you haven't been a supporter of women in the past -- >> i'm a huge supporter of women. what i'm not is a supporter of liberalism. feminism is what i oppose and feminism has led women astray. i love women. i don't know where this got started? i love the women's move. this idea that i don't like women is absurd. and this is miss america and if there is a mr. america out there, it's me. so this is a perfect fit. >> let's talk about politics because while you were out here in vegas, there was a big state of the union speech. >> president obama speech. >> is that what you're calling it. >> state of obama. >> so i assume you had a chance to see it even though you've been working nonstop? >> i gave up after 50 minutes. i heard it all before. there was nothing new in it. the only difference was the tone. i went back and listened to some of his soaring rhetorical speeches during the campaign, this was defensive, petulant, immature, childish, sarcastic. he's clearly angry that he's been rejected. his wonderfully brilliant ideas have been rejected. i saw a young inexperienced guy who is just mad. i think, gretchen, i think this is the first time in his life that there is not a professor around to turn his c into an a or to write the law review article for him he can't write. he's totally exposed. there is nobody to make it better. i think he's been covered for all his life. the fact that his agenda has totally failed this year is the best thing that could have happened to this country. i thank god every day that this is going down the tubes, that that massachusetts election happened. not that god had anything to do with it. >> so the scott brown election, where do you think that will factor into in an historic perspective? >> that's just the tip of the iceberg. that's an indication of what's coming in november. i don't think -- the democrats are rocked back in their heels more than their letting on. if there is ever an entitlement in politics, it's the kennedy seat and it's gone and it wasn't even close. >> and you know -- he's got some opinions. >> and he can dance. >> yeah, we saw some of that video yesterday. >> you mentioned how much work goes into it and you said that you told us -- >> bust a move, babe! >> going to throw his back out. >> now that he knows he doesn't have heart disease, he can bust a move. >> you can't pay any judges. that create problems. part 2 tomorrow. will he ever run for office? he gives me a definitive answer. don't miss it. part 2 tomorrow. >> all right. taylor swift, fashion do or don't? melissa rivers dishes the biggest celebs next. come on in. good morning. big morning of news here. top intel head expect another attempt by al-qaeda to try and hit the u.s. in the next few months. that was a head turner. we've got a guest line - up that's outstanding. chris wallace, dennis kucinich and all on those topics today. and talk being john edwards' legal issues. we'll see you back right here. >> joan and melissa rivers set the bar for tv red carpet coverage at awards shows. now melissa is sharing tips from the world's biggest stars, from her new book, secrets for making the most of any moment you're in the spotlight and she joins us live today. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> red carpet doesn't happen to anyone. how does a red carpet for the great reporters interview the famous, how does that help the everyday person? >> this is where you're wrong. truly -- >> you're calling him out? >> i am. what i say in the book, which is the truth, red carpet moment is any time the spotlight is on you, good, bad or indifferent. >> i like the analogy. >> it's true. any time in life when everyone is looking at you, whether it be something you did well or that you tripped and fell down or whatever it is, that's your red carpet moment. everyone is looking at you. we see these women going on the red carpet and realize it's only a snapshot of their lives and you step back you and look at people's lives in context and realize so much is going on. and life is learning how to handle different situations. >> you say be prepared. >> that's a biggy. >> be gracious. stars are gracious? >> they're back stabbers! >> but you're gracious in the sense that in the moment, enjoy it. be thankful that you're there and if you notice, and you interview enough people, it's like the bigger the star, the more they get it. this it fantastic. that you want to talk to me is great and they show up and they're having fun. even if they're faking it, you don't know. that's about being gracious. it's about nobody cares that you had a flat tire this morning and had to call triple a while you were getting ready. suck it up. have fun. be in the moment. >> i want to you stay here because we're going to come back and talk to you more about the book and stay for the after the show show. that's when everyone takes off their jackets and really let's their hair down. >> yep. >> more with melissa rivers in just two minutes. i wasn't sure where that wasnc going. back with melissa rivers. she's written a new book, red carpet ready and says the lessons that the stars have learned and do on the red carpet, you can use in your own personal life. we're going to continue the conversation in our after the show show. in the meantime, you have fashion police on e? >> yes, it's fantastic, there is a lot of e in my book. my mom is hosting. there will be a new show on march 8. we're running fort grammies. we have a reality show. >> find out the

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