it, or did you think that original expectation number sounded low to begin with? >> no. i mean, i was surprised by it. i think a lot of economists were. one indication was the adp number which is another jobs indicator earlier in the week which which had missed expectations. but, you know, these -- often times these numbers are a little bit over the map, and i think this one no question, kristin, surprised a lot of economists despite because of what we talk about the trade war, but also some of those other indicators, for example, like an inverted yield curve. there have been a lot of examples and evidence that a recession had been coming over the last year. this jobs report, i think, put a lot of those fears to bed, and if we could just get this trade war resolved which have made a lot of economists previously concerned about the economy that much more sure that the good times are going to roll on. kristin: i just want to be clear here because there's been so much talk that we could be on the cusp of another recession. you think that this jobs report means we're good to go for at least a little while, right? >> well, to me, it comes down to