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Hello and welcome to quadriga germanys Conservative Party has a new leader and a great crime Current Power she takes over the reins from chancellor Angela Merkel who was clearly rooting for her to win the contest for the Party Leadership formerly state premier of this ana and a k k as shes often called edged out a strong contender conservative corporate lawyer free press maps but despite being on gloom ackles favorite she faces the tough task of uniting a divided party and heightening her own political profile to many voters shes an unknown quantity and important european and state elections are in the offing does and a great crime qanbar have what it will take not only to do that but also to succeed her mentor Angle America as chancellor thats the question we pose on this weeks fredricka here are guests its a pleasure to welcome you back to the program shes a correspondent for the french magazine live class and she says i doubt that the new team in berlin will deliver a huge boost for europe and very glad to have derek scally with us once again hes a correspondent for the irish times and he says. I believe a k. K. Will have to make clear to him. Americal and soon who is chef and who is waitress in their relationship and reestablish germany as a source of ideas and momentum for european integration and finally its a pleasure to greet multilane he works for the Daily Journal death tug and he says k. K. Is a conservative catholic a european she fought successful elections has governing experience and knows her own party well she could definitely be the next chancellor and most of them in let me start with you and ask you quite simply why should the world care about a change in the leadership of germanys Conservative Party a skeptical viewer might say this is just internal party politics. The city who is is is the strongest most powerful german party in germany i would say it is by and large the fault biggest saw economy in the world in the strong powerhouse in germany so why should they care they have to care who would be the next censor and by any chance the next transfer is the new party leader of the c. D. U. So the the odds are high that they come pomp i will be possibly the new transfer what that means were going to come back to later on in the program dr scully certainly our colleagues care Eighteen Hundred International Journalists were registered for that Party Conference at which and a great crown can be our was confirmed as party leader i think just in their political bubble here in berlin or is this in fact an event of great momentum yes no i was in hamburg it was quite the bottom five not everyone could get into the main hall no i think this shows what people in germany dont often realize is how much attention germany now gets it started during the euro crisis its been building germany has become indispensable part of the european puzzle it always was but i think what im going america with her slow deliberate style trying to bring people along it just made clear that were even you cant get a deal through without germany and i think that makes people here slightly nervous when they realize that if one is watching but you saw it in hamburg everyone expects ivan has huge expectations and theres been a lot of you know have come kabar talk but eleven period on the farm act and we need new ideas we need new momentum and the rest of europe is watching that may make certain germs nervous but i think they just need to grow up and realize germany is a big power they must be comfortable with leading bush to at least leading by example and coming up with some new ideas for europe you are Opening Statement said you dont think this new team is going to deliver a big boost for europe to the fact is that a lot of people in france have been looking toward this Coalition Government for Real Movement on some of the Reform Proposals that president. France has made and they havent gotten an answer until now and now im A Great Come Con Bauer is from a Western State of germany very close to the French Border at times its even been part of france in past history do you not think she is going to act in a way instinctively pro european i think shes definitely pro european i mean she as you said she has been in this the president in this region which is just opposite as us and loathing him she speaks perfect friend she has had a very very pro european policy in posing for example that in schools you learn french the language of the of the of the neighbor how program is very pro european i think he thinks its not so much a problem of her personality and our politics its the problem that its too late i mean were going to have a European Election may imagine mccourt has been waiting for eighteen months to get a move and and so from germany and now this window which had been opened by the arrival of the pro european in france has closed i think its too late would you both agree with that you both mentioned european integration in your Opening Statements as a potential plus on im going i was talk about europe the solution is right now only a small part of it lies in berlin and germany if we talk about europe we are watching the bricks the tears of revulsion the problems of among them michel we are watching italys government consisting of left wing inviting populist parties. East European Countries very nationalistic scandinavian countries facing right wing populism as well so europe itself is in a very very bad condition and i dont see how any chancellor of germany if its merkel i think id come convolve can solve this problem even if you make deals with him on them. About his reform plans and silence on this is just a small portion of what needs to help and your own but your same old what can be done i think a new leader new face a fresh face can say create a positive message i know in germany i think they they dont really have much trust in the power of the message but she proved in hamburg being elected c. D. U. Leader the power of the political speech she got people behind she motivated people and she her entire speech was very cleverly constructed around the word moved courage so she could take that and build rebuild the c. D. U. But take us to the european stage and say im a new face i believe momentum i believe that the European Union of twenty seven has a future and i believe in this project and im not going to lead the debate to be hijacked by populist because the populist theyre a tiny proportion theyre the non populists are the majority in europe and theyre at the considerable majority and i think the european german leaders are always down if they do not if they dont you know that if germany tries to suggest something everyone else will say oh does germany were not going to be bullied by germany but you dont need to come up in a certain project but to give a signal is what youre was prepared to do because in the euro crisis all weve heard is what germany isnt prepared to do and im slightly worried that the european debate in germany has been slightly poisoned by all they just want to get into art they just want to pick our pockets whats this going to cost germany germany is still a fundamentally european country but they havent been you know almost the need to renew their vows and just rhetorical bring bring a bit of courage in there lets see what this new face as you put it whats behind this new face and whether in fact she is the leader who can help germany to read you its vows lets take a look. Stay Prime Minister c. D. U. General secretary and now the c. D. U. Party leader. On a great problem Current Power has had a remarkable career shes considered a political moderate and a team player. That. She was on the americans preferred candidate. But she is by no means american clone. She comes from Western Germany americal comes from. Shes Catholic America was protestant. And she has three children america has. Cropped power and power differs with america warm several points of policy new party leader favors a tougher stand on immigration. Shes opposed to same sex marriage and is considering reintroducing Military Conscription she says germany should take a harder line with russia. Will on a grand cross Current Power managed to set a new course for the c. D. U. Lets go It Quinn Uncle Americal took power she was sometimes referred to as coles girl because in fact the chance to have a call had been her mentor is under great come about anything more than Merkel Reloaded is she really going to take her party and potentially the country in a different direction where thats what she promised to do she said im not a mini me no and so mum and i actually shes proved that she is a solid politician and the woman of our own i mean shes directed shes a shes been leading this all of these little states. At the border for a long time she was minister she was she has a role in the idea shes doing to come. Paying for the election is a president of the seaview she says shes also showing that her ideas do diverged quite comes to bring forth the ideas of Young America on the on the migrant is you sort of so truly says like the marriage the gay marriage and abortion i mean shes not shes shes got to prove it now and thats going to be very important to know to separate to cut the cord to get america and to show that shes she can stand on her own feet which i think everybody who has observed her in the last years knows she can one of the spectres that has been hanging over the conservatives here in germany about a looming has been the rise of the far right party the a. F. D. Uncle the medical was sometimes criticized from within her own party for taking the c. D. U. Too far toward the Political Center and alienating voters on the right leaving them free essentially to go to this further right party would you expect a great crime Current Power to take the conservatives back toward a more conservative part of the party spectrum expect if its minimal portions i would be glad i think that if he will get between ten and fifteen percent of the vote in the east much more but thats the average between ten and fifteen percent i dont see any party leader in germany in the city who if its likely meth and if they come combo you spawn these were the three candidates to really get them back into the boat because it will split them apart but to really hold those voters back into the cold air we have been back and back in the conservative big tanks. First thing was european policy you could not compromise about european integration in the city you but the f. T. Were against european integration and the second were the Refugee Crisis so i can see how the fact in substance and the political leader of the city you. Bring them back into the boat deck scully you recently described in an article on the good kind of combat as a Quote Risk Taker and deal maker are we then looking at a real change in leadership style compared to two chancellor merkel and if so where would you see those characteristics coming into play i think the fascinating but i know america she spoke when she was a child as a girl in school she would spend the entire Swimming Lesson standing on the edge of the diving board and literally at the last moment to finally dive into she screwed up her courage and jump in and she did exactly the same thing by giving up the c. D. U. Leadership she waited for the last possible moment you do with dignity and she did a loop in the air and into the water and got a ten minute Standing Ovation thats risk taking but it was at the very last moment thats one kind of risk taking i think i have come camo has said we need to be faster we need to be more courageous we need to bring people with us you know sooner rather than later i mean merkel frustration many people she joked about it at the Party Conference she drove people her own stuff crazy she couldnt even come up with a slogan for the Party Conference until a few days beforehand you know she ruled the country this way pasta you know i mean making a decision she wanted to see everything every risk she had to weigh everything up and thats thats the trouble but for a Come Commerce that we just need to be faster we kind of keep people waiting like for us the biggest risk youd want to see her take right now and whats the biggest deal youd want to see her make rel at home i would be very interested in seeing if she can cut she can cut some slack for the various wings of the Party America she brought the party to the center but many people would say she neglected the right and she did for many people the unforgivably she allowed a party to move in on the far right and and people have always said that is the golden rule of german politics do not let anything come up on the far right and itll be interesting to see whether she chooses to be the person to bring back in these conserve or at least make them an offer or whether she will enable somebody somebody who has a conservative profile to do that and shell say well were going to fight in public but you have my blessing to do this because we need to be more inclusive as a. R. T. I think that hasnt happened enough in the last year or so she manages to do that that would be quite something other than the seedy becomes a catch all party again also for annoyed to divert the furious people because there are a lot of them at the Party Conference ive been asking myself and i wonder if you feel this way as well what it means that the conservatives have chosen a woman for the second time to lead their party and whether that wouldnt seem to go in a different direction from the idea that theyre returning to sort of their conservative roots and base i mean its unfortunate that we have to ask ourselves this question is and its now a days. It shows that the seaview has become. Has has the money tried to modernize these party i mean you remember when he was elected it was a sensation the woman for the first time and from the east that was also something we mustnt forget with and forget that she came from the east which at the time was also incredible. Yeah its very its i dont know what to say about that its just very sad and we should take it theres something very normal and she can be in shes a woman but shell have another political side she might she will have other political ideas you put. Stress another direction. But it shows that german politics have accepted that women can be in power and thats in these very conservative quite packed trackable country quite an event what happened to the old club. Seems. Very alive and well in the a. F. D. To sort of degree but let me ask you this multi laming great country. Announced that as party leader her first actions would be focused on migration and security but to be honest Isnt The Debate On Migration that has absolutely split her party split the conservatives is it very much about the past rather than the present many people say germany doesnt have a migration crisis. At the moment so what exactly is it that you would expect her to change and does she have the room to maneuver to do it shes governing in a Grand Coalition after all and she govern as all in this tiny little state and made some some quite i would say spectacular but different policies towards migrans or refugees then in berlin for example miners that miners have to go through in d. N. A. Check to see how old they are if they are really minors or not so as she was quite stricter in the Refugee Policy than the rest of. The country the states so there is a different tone and i would agree that there is no no Refugee Crisis in germany but we have huge huge Integration Crisis we have integrated i mean one point two a one point four million refugees since the fall of Two Thousand And Fifteen came into this country and its still a huge huge test to be solved speaking of those deep divisions that were provoked by the debate on migration lets take a look at the other contenders for the Party Leadership and what that tells us about the current political mood here in germany. Kurtz is going to fire you for this was the moment of defeat when i wanted to come come on in here who represents the probusiness and conservative wing of the party was defeated in the second round of voting. For the people of germany expect the government to exercise control over our borders and over the people who come here over the past few years we have not done this for. Another candidate. The current health minister opposes chancellor merkels Refugee Policy and takes a conservative stand on many issues. I want to see a germany that is modern and open minded and shows respect for traditional values homeland and family. Received news new General Secretary as powell. A former leader of the c. D. U. C. S. U. Youth organization. Will these new people at the top finally manage to resolve the deep divisions within the city do you. Want to make former chancellor Gerhard Schroeder says the city you made a mistake and they should have chosen freedom matts the corporate lawyer who was a major contender would you agree with that who would you if wanted to see with just. I would say the division in between the city who is not division in substance its more a division and personal likings there are parts of it that like things they smell small than they come but what is the real difference in substance i can see that any one of these two would change the face of the party in substance they would still be a pro european the you have to solve the Refugee Crisis and so on and so on so the basics will still be intact maybe feet the mets will have been one of these guys. So. Leave millionaire image and so on and so on that will have pleased a certain part of the party that no in that say it is disappointed on the composer but but i would expect the disappointment to to to fade away in some weeks or months from there to the time of her election on a great drum convo or talked about the c. D. U. Being one of the quote Last Unicorns in europe because its a Big Tent Mass Party regularly gets up to thirty percent of the vote or more certainly its looking good in the polls right now but is that just a temporary bump do you think you have this is the question i mean people in germany tend to forget its a really rough world out there the political world has changed sometimes i think were in a little stability bubble here in germany they bounce back from the crisis quickly whats happening in france whats happening in the u. K. The world has changed the rhetoric has changed political stylus changed and there are a lot of political bruisers out there and i know many people friends of mine who really wanted to see for the merits when their city members because they said who do you think will be able to roll with the punches in the oval office better. You saw what happened to nancy pelosi i mean donald trump has a trouble with Women Leaders generally and i have heard from earth might have been able to give as good as he got so i think some people will always wonder what might have been that he has rhetorical strong he knows the corporate world and that perhaps donald trump the donald trump of this world would have more respect for the type of selfmade man as well and not perhaps could have been good for germany but who knows well never quite know how that would have worked at. Your own countrys political system has seen significant fragmentation over the past ten years or so would you say germany too is heading in that direction and i have in mind a quote from the New York Times that was written at the time of this Party Conference of the c. D. U. They wrote merkels looming retirement marks a deepening crisis of the german political system that threatens not just the future of the country but of the European Union the. You see that kind of fragmentation here and does it have that sort of very dire potential for europe well yes the fragmentation has happened with the birth of the i have to say i mean who of the rest of the Populist Party who would have expected for ten years that the populist in germany would have such a big success i mean it was the the only an enclave in europe the only country because of its past because of its economic success is which didnt have a popular spot you know they have one and the threatening the agenda and and of all the other all the other parties and i think for europe its its bad news because weve been used to a very strong germany you know it was the rock in the in the ocean which was completely wrong and and fragile germany is not good news for europe and france has been waiting the other European Countries have been waiting for germany to take this issue to be full of energy again to be on board and theyve been weve been waiting for two years now so the fragmentation of german politics is no not good for europe let me take us back to the woman whom the great crown Current Power is succeeding as party leader and potentially as chancellor and derek scully mention it at the outset the fact that this is an orderly and smooth Transition Party leaders often do not leave they are toppled that didnt happen here im going back and they have waited but in fact she has handed over the leadership in an orderly fashion lets hear what she had to say as she did so. Well yes this is on that site and now the time has come for us to begin a new chapter in his eye piece moment i am filled with one emotion in particular and that is gratitude funny because. It was a great pleasure for me to serve and it was an honor thank you very much. That is what if you mention she got nearly ten minutes of applause following that statement so question to all of you requests for a brief answer if you would will undergo medical really continue in office as chancellor until the end of her term just going to go around the Circle Pascoe or that stays in the stuff she has more chances was on the plates come come almost two to get to twenty to twenty one as with Inflation Mats who would probably have prepared. Some kind of push against her. Must at some time said to be a risk to separate the Party Leadership and the chancellorship do you think thats the case here its not so much of a risk because even though they are not alike and they could come carbos definite got a clone of medical but they both have it they they get along with each other very well so i expect her to stay in Power Switch Answer until twenty well i wouldnt be so sure i know many people in her inner circle who say shes a woman of her honor she promised voters last year i will serve full term but i think im going to come cars says to her look your tires the party is on on easy if i can provide an honorable way for you to go i need to cut the Umbilical Cord under nothing personal perhaps after the European Elections or at the end of this year if the part if she can go back to find american go back to the party and say well i want to serve full term but youve chosen otherwise i can go and she can go ahead all right i think she will take that option and back to our title our title is essentially asking the question will on a great crime convo or be the next german chancellor i mean ask it with a slightly different turn does she have what it takes to really do german leadership. In the meaningful ways that all of you have mentioned pascoe she says she has seen she says that you cant pretend to be president of the party if you dont want and if you dont feel that you have the guts and the ability to be chancellor so thats pretty tough next chancellor i think you all saw that she will be the next transfer and she i think she will be able to you know she wont be the first term politician to go to the top but ive been underestimated thats what shes proving so far why shouldnt i continue to filter of the love of non charismatic politician this look at that but thank you very much all of you for being with us here on the program and thanks to all of you for tuning in and wish you happy holidays see you in the new year. Alone. Whats that up their high in the sky its. Kids. Michael we are still not a god teach. Mary cummins is back after more than fifteen years as charming as ever. More about the sequel to the movie classic fear. The hero makes thirty minutes on d w. 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