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Meeting will come to order. After having explored the next steps of defense reform and yesterdays hearing, we now turn to what is needed to repair and rebuild our military. And im grateful to each of the distinguished Service Chiefs for being with us today. Theres widespread agreement that funding cuts under the budget control act plus a series of continued resolutions have damaged the u. S. Military. I believe that damage has gone far deeper than most of us realize requiring more time and more money to repair than is generally expected. Theres plenty responsibility to go around for the current state of affairs with both congress and the obama administration, republicans and democrats, military and civilian relationships. Defense funding has got caught up in partisan back and forth on other issues and been held hostage to other priorities. We need get back to evaluating defense needs on their own without regard to any agreement or disagreement we may have on other issues. The men and women who serve deserve at least that. The most important thing now is to repair the damage by passing a full appropriation bill, and then enacting adequate authorization and appropriations for fiscal year 2018. The immediate issue is the current continuing resolution on april 28th. We in the house passed a full appropriation bill for 2017 on march 8th by a vote of 37148. The senate has not yet acted on it. As ive said before, i will not vote for a defense continuing resolution for the rest of fiscal year 17. It would simply do too much harm. Fundamental to fixing a problem is to expose it and understand it. I understand we have to be cautious about exposing our vulnerabilities. But to do better for the military and the country, we must have the best professional military judgment our Witnesses Today can offer on the current state of our military forces on what inadequate funding would mean for them. We all have to be clear and candid with the American People and thats exactly the purpose of todays hearing. Mr. Smith. Thank you, mr. Chairman. And i agree with much of what the chairman had to say. Over the course of the last six plus year the uncertainty has made it very difficult to operate. Weve had one government shut down, countless threatened government shut downs and numerous crs. Youre just continuing the budget. It means you cant start new programs, you cant end programs that need to be ended. Youre not sure which qualifies as which. You have to go through figuring out what you can and cannot spend money on and thats a colossal waist of your time and expensive. We should give you a clear budget to give you the freedom to implement that as necessary. Theres plenty of blame to go around on that front. I also agree that forces unquestionably be stressed over the last 15 years, certainly with two major wars in afghanistan and iraq and the ongoing struggle against extremism all across the world. Our military has been give an large number of assignments and couple that with the inadequate with the unpredictable number of resources and you have a problem. Theres a larger thing we need to get at. We need an appropriations bill and we need fund the military to meet the mission. I dont agree we can pull defense out of the entire federal government, look at it totally separately as if all the other money doesnt matter because unfortunately we do have other priorities than Just National security. Some of which are rather important. In fact, the intelligence budget, the department of homeland security. It regrettably is a trade off. I think the budget that President Trump septd up this year makes that clear. He plussed up defense and took that 54 billion out of everything else, including a 31 cut in the state department. And as the secretary of defense said if youre going to cut the state department and development aid, you better give me five more divisions because im going to have a lot of wars to fight. As much as i would love to just pull defense out and say we can ignore anything else. We are members of congress and responsible for all of that. Towards the end ill make one final point. As we look at how we put together the defense budget, we should not give men and women that we do not equip and train them to do. Totally unacceptable. I do not however agree that the answer to continue to expand with those tasks and responsibilities and kind of hope that we somehow come up with more money to meet it. The tasks and supports that have been described by the president and what he said he wants the military to do, he sent up a 603 billion budget. That doesnt come close to meeting the tasks and supports that are outlined. Even the 640 billi 640 billion chairman here and the Senate Arms Committee talked about. What we need do in addition rightly pointing out the lack of resources and the unpredictability is come up with a set of tasks and missions for the men and women who serve in the Armed Services that we can actually fund. We cannot continue to say you have to do this and this and we dont have the money and we should have the money and we dont. We know where our budget is at. 20 trillion in debt. There are other needs. We have to be smart about how we spend the money and what missions we decide our men and women should be served. I look forward to your testimony and i thank you all for your service. We are chiefed to becoare ple chief of staff and general robert. Without objection, your full written statements will be part of the record and let me say how much i appreciate you being here and you have a lot of responsibilities on your shoulders. I know they came back early. Deserves all of our careful attention and discussion. Thats the purpose of todays hearing. Thank you all for being here. Ranking member smith. I know we all do. The world is becoming a more dangerous place. With simultaneous challenges to the United States interests from russia, china, iran, rapidly growing threat from north korea and a series of wars against terrorists. This is no time in my professional view to increase risk to the national security. A year long cr or return to the bca funding will do just that. It will increase risk to the nation and ultimately result in dead americans on a future battlefield. To execute current operations, sustained readiness while making progress towards a more capable and lethal future. The u. S. Army requires predictable and consistent funding. The lack of fiscal appropriations and no supplemental increase in funding will significant low and negatively impact readiness and increase our force. A return to budget caps forces the army to reverse our efforts to improve readiness and will lead to a hollow army. In the last two years, we made steady progress in our fighting skills across multiple types of units, but we have much work to do to achieve full ready residence necessary for the demands of our National Strategy and planning guidance. Cumulative effect of the budget instability for eight consecutive years is increasing risk not only to the army, but the nation and will result in unnecessary u. S. Casualties. Fight and win wars is a very, very expensive proposition, but the cost is far less and the cost and the pain and the blood and the sacrifice of regret. Readiness is the number one priority and funding requirement is submitted to the president s budget. 3 billion above fiscal year operation in maintenance levels. The Planning Efforts request for additional appropriations centered on gaps in readiness and specifically in armor, air defense and Field Artillery and aviation. They will be severely impacted. Funding for a year will result in a dramatic decrease in training starting next month in may. By 15 july, all Army Training will cease except those units deploying to afghanistan or iraq. Our ctc, collective Training Exercises and as mandated in the fy 17 act by you. The National Guard and the army reserve will cease. The shortfalls combined with personnel constraints will result in an army that is less ready to meet current requirements, but limit the ability to assure allies now and in the future. Addressing them from known shortfalls and gaps. Long range fire, protection and Mobility Programs with several other initiatives. We will lose our current overmatch. The current battlefield is already very lethal. A future battlefield will likely prove far more leagual than anything we have experienced. Our adversaries have studied us and are leveraging technology while the army is yet to recover from the effects of the shut down in 2013. Time is not our ally and will damage the ability to build and maintain readiness and result in multiple years of negative impacks on the future of our army. We cannot precise when and where the next will arise, it is likely to require a significant commitment of u. S. Army Ground Forces. Sustaining the high levels of performance your army demonstrated in the face of increasing challenges requires consistent longterm balance and predictable funding. A year long resolution or return to funding gaps absolutely will result in a u. S. Army that is outranged, outgunned and outdated against adversaries. With your support, in passing the fy 17 budget and supplemental, the army will fund at sufficient levels to meet demand and build readiness and invest in the future for United States. I look forward to your questions. Thank you distinguished members of the committee for the opportunity to discuss the impacts of another continuing resolution and continuing uncertain and inadequate levels would do to the navy. I wanted to clarify and convey off the top that we need to recover readiness this year and sustain it into the near future. There is a growing gap between the missions we are asking our navy to do and the unle liability and the short anj of resources provided to do the missions as Ranking Member smith highlighted we got to where we are because of 15 years of operating at wartime pace. The strike group is deployed times. Contrast that with eight years of resolutions and years of restrictions imposed by the balance budget acts. This creates years of stress over the operations and the navy team with the joint service team, the joint force team, the sailors, civilians and their families have been absorbing the stress. In the simplest possible terms as i speak to you today, if we dont get the funding we described, lots will not fly and they cant train. We wont have the spares to fix their planes and the guess to fly them and the pay to keep our pilots in the services and we dont have ready aircraft for tomorrows pilots. Lots of sailors cannot go to sea. We cant afford the maintenance and the gas to steam them. The ships will remain tied up to the peer. We will be less proficient. The pilots will be less experienced which is a daunting fact when you consider what we are asking in wartime. Sailors will have less time to practice and train and achieve the teamwork needed to win in modern warfare. It doesnt stop when it returns to home port. The current funding without the 15 bill and the supplemental will allow for one month notice when they move their families, placing a huge burden on their families and especially those with dhrn. We will ask our children to work in substandard conditions and over 6,000 buildings in dismal conditions awaiting replacement or demolition. We will have to shut down in the shortterm and in the long time, the shortage will get worse. We will delay important upgrades that help us keep pace with the threat. They will put sailors at greater risk and a greater threat of missiles. Submarines will lose their certification and ships will be at the pier instead of under way. Failing to maintain has the same net effect of cutting for structure. Whether we leave it tied up to the pier or we decide not to build a new ship, both mean one less ship at sea. Not being able to supply an existing aircraft or not buying a new aircraft mean one less plane in the air. This is not theoretical. We talk about whether to keep ships at port and craft on the ground, they are gaping on us. Risks are getting worse as others grow their float and operate in the specific, atlantic, indian and arctic oceans. I just got back from pain and visited the uss ross in the contested waters of the eastern mediterranean. They took an oath to they are tough, dedicated and proud of what they do. There is that would make their life harder and shrink their advantage. They will give favorable consideration and make us more ready and competitive and thank you for the chance to testify and i look forward to your questions. Ranking member smith and members of the committee for hosting this critically important and timely hearing. Its a privilege to be here with fellow joint chiefs. Your air forces engaged here in the homeland and deployed to capture and control the high ground as we have global power or allies. From the outer reaches of space to 100 feet below the surface and everywhere in between, we are involved in some way in every mission the joint forcing performs. Put simply, your air forces always there. We ensure it remains safe,and reliable. On the worst day as a nation, we ensure he is where he needs to be and remains connected to the air force and Naval Nuclear force who stand watch for the american allies. In space, they maintain constellations that protected communications and nuclear control and gps for the joint team and the globe. When china launched the missile in 2007 creating a debris field over 300,000 particles, space became both will a contested and a congested place. In the cyber domain, sailors and marines to defend the nations and develop tactics and procedures to produce Strategic Effects in the war fighting domain. Just 16 years ago, they had a remotely piloted aircraft. Today the air force delivers 60 lines with High Altitude line with an unblinking eye on the adversaries. If you heard jet noises, it was likely the f 16s at andrews who strip alert to defend the city as we do across the nation to defend our homeland from attack. I learned just walking in this morning and as we lost an f16, the news reports said the pilot got out and he is okay. These are some of the missions we reported. Simultaneously they are operating at 175 locations to assure allies and partners and deter adversaries and shape the environment and respond to crisis. Job is to maybe tan air superiority. When a soldier, sailor, airman, marine or coast guardsman hears jet noise, i dont want them to look up. I want them to know its me. This is sacred duty. Your air force supplies unmatched global reach. They delivered personnel and supplies where and when they are needed. We operate out of insecure areas and special forces and air commandos to secure when and where we need them. When it comes to Global Precision strike, i call your attention to the january raid where i pair of b 2 bombers were there for a 32 hour round trip to libya. They were refuelled by 13 tankers and delivered 85 bombs over two terrorist camps delivering precise lethal effects within 10 seconds. Thats condition 10 seconds. In the counter isis fight, the Lieutenant General and the air Component Commander leads 16 nations to defend extremism in the mideast. With the fast majority coming from the air force. For our enemy, always there has a different meaning. Stated during the one of the days of the daylight bombing campaign. The problem with air power is we make it look too easy. The truth is anything but. Todays air forces the least ready in history. We have and will continue to fly, fight, and win. Our families remain globally engaged. The chairman is fitting that we have this hearing on gold star spouse day. As a reminder of our vital our families are to our mission. For 26 years of trnuous conflict through desert storm and deliberate and allied forces and in libya. The current fights in afghanistan and syria. They remained faithful to our cause. Its unfortunate that we are now discussing the potential of yet another extended resolution which has been said is the equivalent of a mini sequestration round which we have been through before. You see in the air force, we havent recovered from round one. Failing to pass the bill will cost 2. 8 billion in the remaining five months of 2017. Here are two of the direct impacts to the most important resource. The air men and families failing to pass a budget. We will stop flying in late june. When the money runs out. It takes 10 million to train a fighter pilot. That equates to 10 billion of investment that walked out the door. The pilots that dont fly, air Traffic Controllers that dont control, leave. Congress authorized and will break fate with them. In addition over 20,000 young mn and women lined up to serve and will not be allowed to enter the service until we get appropriation. They represent the greatest treasure in the arsenal and come from each of your districts. They have given up jobs and made plans. All to be told they have to wait for months to pursue their dream. One remains paramount. Every one we sent to harms way must be organized and equip and led to succeed in their mission. We must take care of their families while they are gone. This is our moral obligation. A year long cr makes meeting this obligation extremely difficult. Mr. Chairman, distinguished members of the committee, the demand has never been higher. With it we win. Without it, we lose. We look forward to passing a budget and thank you jen for holding this critically important hearing and i look forward to your questions. The Ranking Member smith and members of the committee. I will be brief so we can get to your questions. Let me endorse the comments of my fellow chiefs and its important to remember that the readiness is linked. The army cant train and we cant train with them. The air force cant fly, we cant move around the world. None of us can do anything by ourselves. Our readiness of our forces are part of that of the joint force. Marines have a unique perspective on readiness based on the direction of the congress as the force and raeadiness is central to our identity. Operating through the remainder of this fy, we had readiness across the force and had adverse effects. Specific we will cease the Flight Operations in late july and early august with the squadrons getting ready to deploy. We have the Recovery Efforts across the force and acquisition with the system and delay the instruction of much needed warships. The scope and scale will be reduced, impacting Service Level training such as the Training Exercise at 29 palms which is our key event for certification before deployment. Other effects, large multilateral exercises and cold weather training in norway will be degraded and will be challenged to recover from the training gaps. Once you lose t you cant get it back. If you miss, you are not going to get another turn. It tomorrows the operational commitments. Your marines are as busy as in the height of operations in iraq and afghanistan. Four deployed in korea and japan. The four deployed forces engaged in support of all combat and ready to go. Our tempo and the instability of the crs and the lasting impacts continue to make us make hard choices that prior ties cant. The priority has and will continue to go to deploy units. That runs the shortfalls of the facility and modernization and retention of skills and the depth and readiness. Working with congress and chiefs and the department of defense and the chairman and the secretary, the marine corps will make the most of the resources we are provided. Marines will meet the High Standard regardless. I look forward to your questions. Let me ask each of you to address a question. Why is it different now as admiral richardson and smith mentioned, years of cr and years of the budget control act. To most they look and say we are still bombing isis and getting by and doing what needs to be done. Each of you painted a pretty dire picture of where we are and where we would be without a supplemental. I guess my basic question is, why is it different now in. Its the cumulative effect. On personnel and we have reduced the army. By 80 or 90 soldiers and we still have 180,000 soldiers today. We are actively engaged in terms of combat situation in iraq and central and west africa and several other places. Roughly speaking, i got back from the mideast last week. Its the cumulative effect in all of these years. There are other potential contingencies on the horizon. You saw that yesterday morning. The launching of a missile from north korea that landed in the sea of japan. I have no idea where all that leads. We must be ready. Its a cumulative effect. If i were to draw an analogy it would be like smoking cigarettes. Cigarette is not going to kill you, but its the cumulative effect overtime that is devastating and the effect of money in and money out. Industry has that funding. We cant do that. Not only is it negative on immediate readiness. Its devastating because we cant get out in front of it and its very expensive and inefficient and ineffective way of doing the budget. Admiral . I would put on top of everything that the nnl said u the operational pace against fighting extremism against the unsr uncertainty of the budgets. We strive to send them forward so they are fully prepared. That came at the cost of readiness back home. They would flow into the fight and also say that one thing in my mind that characterized the focus and its not just us that has been operating in the world and we had this conversation years ago in the intervening eight years, china modernized and are operating not just around the shores, but around the world. Russia was considered an ally at that time. Now its a different picture. He mentioned north korea and iran. Competitors have grown in the last eight years. The relative witness shifted. Its a combination of our personnel effects. The stress of 10 years or 15 years. Contrasted against the funding and instability and levels, but its also our competitors that have been making gains in the eight years. They build on the comments because the reality is that the world changed in 2014. If you go back and look at the posture, between congress and the executive branch, we were out of iraq and coming down in afghanistan. In a single act. China militarized in the south china sea. Isis went back to iraq and you may remember we had this thing called ebola. You might recall we were not sure we were facing the plague. We look and try to balance the capability and capacity and readiness. The world is different now. Thank you. On 911, we deployed a raid of 31. We were gone for six months. The gear we had was the gear we had from the 1980s build up. It was only 16, 15, 12 years old. You go to Camp Pendleton and drive around and thats the same stuff. It has been through the depp. The force now deploys at a rate of 21. We can do all of that. We are in the process of doing that. We need the stability of a known funding stream so we can get the best price for modern gear and plan our training and we know we are going to go and get a ride either in an airplane or a ship. This potentially puts all that at risk. Mr. Smith. Thank you. We have the opportunity to speak and i wont let miss davis. Thank you for being here today. You make a good case and i think we are all with you in understanding the difficulties and the challenges that you face. It is april and we havent passed last years budget yet. In many ways we are dealing with a continuing cr which in many ways is almost the norm. What is it that we should be looking at doing . Are there different metrics when it comes to setting priorities that suggest that we have to adapt and accomplish it. What do you think needs to be done differently at all if this is the new normal. Im not suggesting that i like it. The chief of staff of the u. S. Army constitutes professional malpractice. I dont think we should accept it as the new normal. I think we should pass and pass the supplemental with it. The world is a determiningous place and becoming more dangerous by the day. Pass a budget. Heres what this new normal would mean. It would mean trying to run a mile race and giving the composition a heads start. You have to run very fast and we are not fast. Thats what you buy into if you accept this as a new normal. I couldnt agree with the chief more. Maam, i will use this as an opportunity to remipt us as in terms of what you expect as joint chiefs. I think you need from us our best military advice on what we think we need to be able to perform the missions being given. Until those missions change, what we will continue to tell you is what the force requires. The resistance you are getting from us relative to setting a new normal is that the missions havent changed. So what you wont hear from us is anything but. Heres what is required to do those missions to defend and do what is required in the homeland and here abroad. I think think we have adapt and otherwise we wouldnt be able to do what we do every day. That doesnt mean we like it. We are adaptable because of the men and women who serve and they figure out a way to get it done. Y ing everybody is hedging or whatever they are doing. The bill is in the back end. The people were contesting and they dont have long range artillery. Thats who is out there potentially in the wings. Thats what we are trying to get at. We are an all recruited force. Its expensive. In order to continue to recruit, you have to have the capability that they will have the opportunity to be successful and we can assume that it may or may not happen. My job is to manage risk and provide best military advice. We need stability and be able to plan. Whatever the number is. Then we will go forward. The force has to have confidence that they are going to have a continued resource for the capabilities they have to train and be operational for their 23578lys and all those things that you have to have with an all volunteer force. We have a hiring freeze, a federal hiring freeze. Is that contributing to degraded readiness . I will say. What way . We had pretty good luck because of the quitance as far as getting a waiver for those jobs that were directly affecting readiness and people that are involved. Its not perfect and it caused problems and the people that were mostly hurt were family members. We worked through it and got through it to film the jobs. Lets try to keep to the the urgence issues to our nation. I would prefer that and in South Carolina i enlisted soldiers who graduated from ft. Jackson along with the base and the nearby air man and the marines. The guard members at the joint air base. Y South Carolina knows and loves the military. You provide opportunities for meaningful lives. As a veteran and a son of a veter veteran, i have fours with a nephew in the air force who served in iraq. It is for this reason that i am concerned about the negative impacts they have on military families. Bonuses and delayed family moves and reprogram military equipment upgrades. How would each of you describe the consequences to military families that impact that continuing resolution poses on the air men and marines. How would this affect recru recruitment and rkdcould you provide an impact that stands above the rest. Ft. Jackson alone, we recruit and bring into training the equivalent of the british army every year. At ft. Brag or ft. Hood, texas. What will happen in your state in South Carolina and many others that have basic training, that will stop in july. We will run out of money next month and over the following 60 days. We will not have the ammunition and basic training will stop. Deploy them to operational junts and keep them there. They wont be doing anything of substantive value and wont be able to recruit. We wont get the supplemental pass. They will be coming to a screeching halt for all of the activities. We cut back on several services and we will continue to cut back on more services for families and family members and cancel bonuses and increase stress on the force. That will be throughout all the services. It will be dramatic and significant and should and must be avoided in my view. Before i begin, i have to thank you for hosting the Nuclear Power school. Thats a bit out of the region. Its not too far. I would trust the air force base and stay within the region. Roger, sir. These are the areas where some of the most skilled operators and luke leer trinors and those folks will be the first to leave. Competition is in the im competing every day. The pool of people is small to start with and gets smaller. When we talk about a month notice to move your family from norfolk to guam, that is a huge detractor and the highest skilled martest folks will leave first. Thank you very much. I want to thank you for your testimony and your service to the nation. I am concerned about the impact across the board. Especially when it am cans to the potential impact and a new start this year such as the persistent training environment. Im going to start with you as an army program and ask the other services to add their thoughts. Next for the witnesses also, i am recruiting and retaining the cyber warriors. So the critical roles they play defending the National Interest and providing to military operations is imperative and they can maintain the best of the best. Cybers are a relatively new domain of wars as we refer to it. Its critically important and damage can be done to adversaries through the use of cyber. Its really important that we as a military and the army is playing its role and developing offensive and defensive capabilities. For the most part. The impact means they will not continue the facilities. It means that the National Guard will not be able to field their defense teams for the National Guard. We will not be able to continue the level of training for the teams that are formed in the regular army. In addition that, they will likely have a negative effect on the recruitment to become cyber warriors. We need to continue the momentum and resolution. They will stop in their tracks. We have been organizing for cyber for sometime and that includes people and talented people and thats against a cyber attack. They stay with the Digital Warfare Office on my staff that will work with the fleets to enhance our agility across the board. Thats a very comprehensive program and i would love to talk to you about it in more detail. That will stop. Many of the upgrades and what i talked about are to enhance resilience against cyber attacks. As the chief said, critical vulnerabilities and the first shots in the next war and the war that is going on right now. As the combat and commander who was trusted with the mission and demending the nation. Ensuring we have the tal tonight do his mission. All of us contribute to the Cyber Mission teams and with while we cant go into operational details, this cr will have an impact on all of our ability to be able to put the teams in place and allow him to accomplish the mission that he has been given at the very national level. He said how can you afford to keep it . I said i dont know if i can afford it. Whats it going to cost me . I dont know if there is enough money out there. We closed down and treat cyberlike operations. The investment is too high to get them trained. At a cr level, any money for them. What are you going to take it away . There are no good choices. Thank you all. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you all for being here and thank you for your candid and sobering explanation of what we are facing. We have been on the committee for a while and danced about what the consequences would be if we didnt do our responsibility the right way and unfortunately we see the results of it now and understanding in clear and Uncertain Terms of what it means to each of the granchs and the country overall is the sobering information we need. With that in mind, we want to talk about the strains on the military and tie in with what you have been saying to highlight what i think our most important resources. Without the men and women, we have a real problem. Specifically the 177th wing in my experience. It was cutting paycheck this is year. While the supplemental funds the pay raise for the authorized. So first for the general, what is the expect they play. I know its not good and i would like to we are going to meet those obligations and go somewhere in the military personnel account to find the money. The trade offs will be the issue. For example, we talked about pcs moves, moves and the change of station. For the air force for five months of the cr, it will be 13,000 families that will have to be delayed in their moves. Of those families, now they have children in school, think of the issues that will go on to delay all of those moves into the fall cycle after they started school. That puts a stress on our fam y families that cant be quantified. One of my biggest concerns relative to a long cr, its breaking faith with the air men and their families. They have been at this for 26 years now. They will stay with us if they believe they can count on us to ensure we take care of them and their families as they deploy. They will stay with us if they believe we are given the resources to be the best they can be. I go back to my point. Maintainers who dont maintain and air Traffic Controller who is dont wont stay with us. To be able to get them through the air is a priority. We will only have a little more than a minute, but you want to comment on that as well. If we go to the cr, thats going to kill any pay raise. Our soldiers are with the marines. I want you to consider something. In world war ii, today 60 of us are married. On average two children. You are talking about families of four here. An e 5 or e 4, a sergeant or a special, with a family of four that earns just slightly above the poverty level, there are thousands of soldiers. Today they still use food stamps. That should get peoples attention. If we dont pass the budget, its going to hurt their pay and other forms of benefits and services. Its going to crush morale. It will be very devastating. I cant highlight enough yellow ink to get through the budget and the supplemental. It will have significant negative impact. I yield back. Thank you, mr. Chairman and thank you to the witnesses for your testimony. The urgency of your message is really important. We appreciate it. Before i have this impact, i would like to comment on testimony on the timeline the navy faces to sustain the complete. As he correctly stated, they will be coming off line starting in 2027 at a rate of per year. To dip below while the new columbia class comes into service, last december we included an anomaly to keep lumbia moving forward with the Detailed Design and production. For clarificationss sake, is that the plus up that is a year long anomaly adequate to keep them on track this year . I appreciate you highlighting the force that we are on to get them out of control. This is a program with zero margin. We need every dollar of that to keep that on track. There is good news and the team has regained tracks or designed are on pace, but i will tell you there is no margin. You highlighted going down to 10. That requires pretty much errorfree operation to maintain requirements. That will be adequate for this year. Stable continuous funding to keep that on track. Appreciate that. The admiral stated that a year long cr would drive them to cancel ship availabilities. You are dealing with the phenomenon with the carrier gaps. We dont fix it just to fix them. We maintained and upgraded the ships so they can go forward and do the nations business. We need to accepted him forward fully ready just like the car would be. You wouldnt drive the car without doing the maintenance or giving it the gas. This will translate downstream. The maintenance thing at large when you cant fly an air wing because of the aircraft that are not maintained, that will result and we are not going to send them forward untrained. We wont send them forward unable to defend themselves because of poor maintenance. Gaps, if you will. Its a domino effect. The abilities get canceled. All of our particularly private ship yards have to adapt to that and the workforce will have to be cut. Those people do not come back. The chairmans question about what is significant, this is going to happen pretty much immediately if the cr is the final out come. Our fleet commanders and maintainers are hanging on with their finger nails. They wanted to take action before because they are at risk. There is laws in place in terms of spending more money. If we dont pass this, it will be abrupt. They extended it as long as they can. I yield back. Thank you for your incredible answer to susan davis. The statement that is malpractice and unprofessional and everyone in Congress Needs to see. Members of this committee not only understands it, but are the advocates to the rest of congress to ensure that that doesnt happen. When the last cr came forward, many of you are aware that members refused to vote for the cr unless we received a promise from the speaker that dod would move from the house and it did. There is no reason as we look forward to a prospect of a cr that the funding should be an exception. No reason it should not be an exception. They should be stapled to whatever is is moving forward. They will be advocating that it does. I want to drill down on the effects that would be on the army. Last year chris gibsb and i and the bill recognized the Ground Forces and implemented a clause in the obama administrations reductions to land force in strength levels given future and current threats and began the process of reversing the harmful effects of downsizing land forces as a result of the budget control act. We successfully incorporated the increases as part of the year. It provided manning, training and development. The authorizations for the fiscal year will allow them to begin mitigating the risks imposed and we recently heard testimony and he stated that the army risks consuming readiness as fast as we build it. We need to continue to grow the army. A few questions in that ward. We know that the president proposed a spending level of 603 for fiscal year 18. As you know, the chairman proposed 640. Policy what the level would be on rebuilding our military and what is the impact under a year long cr. Those are two questions. Lots of impacts. The most signifi cant, we have been although rised to reverse the downward trend and move out to 476. For the National Guard we want to bring them to 343,000. For the army reserve, we would like to bring them back to 197,000. By 1 october. This will stop the recruiting and the basic training and we will resume a downward trend. Units are going to go to the field at less than optimal strength. We have units for training in the percent ill versus what is required of 90 to 95 . In capability overtime, we will end up having if its a year long cr, we will end up cancelling the center in california and we will also end up cancelling home station training for the active units and for the guard, they will have to cancel the significant training events. Training across the bort after we run out of money in may, training will be reduced to individual squad training. You have to train at the brigade and higher levels to have an effective force for full spectrum warfare. It could be significant across the board. Mr. Chairman . Thank you for your impassioned plea for money. You know where its coming from . From all the other thing that is the American Public would like us to do and we need to do. Our Ranking Member spoke to the 30 decrease in the state cant and what that means. The 5 billion dollar decrease in the National Institutes of health, we will make choices here. You have been told to develop a plan for isis. Where is that plan . Where is the war plan for isis. You were supposed to have it done in 30 days. Im not going to discuss classified operational matters. Not what it is, but where 12 . It has been submitted and looked at and reviewed. To this committee . I dont know that we commit it to this committee. We someit it to the chairman. You have 5 billion dollars for something you did not submit to us. You want us to submit something that hasnt been ark proved. My question was very direct. You expect us to give you 5 billion from a plan that you have not committed . I would ask that you refer that to the secretary of defense or the president. We work through the chain of commands. Thats not an answer. You would expect us to approve a plan that has not been submitted. How it would be spent and where it would be spent. Okay. Fair enough. Thats 5 billion of the 30 billion supplemental. You said in the testimony pay will be reduced unless you have the supplemental and in the base bill there is a 2 preponderance 1 pay increase. How does that work . Apparently you would like to answer. What are we said is we will find the money within our budget to pay the 2 pay raise. The issue is we will have to make choices and trades to do that. The budget that we put out for 2017 appropriation had 2. 1 dealt in for the forces that presumably you have. All of you have. Are you suggesting that . We are not suggesting that and the a probations for the marines and a 2 preponderance 1 pay. We had a continuing resolution through the whole year. You spent a good deal of your time talking about the supplemental. We are debating the word good. Lets not get into the detail, but each one of you advocate and i dont know how you want that to be spent in key areas. Not to say it may not be , but we have to make tough choices and need detail to make the choices. We talked about do we need to replace our ground base Strategic Missiles in the near term . That is about 50 billion. Do we need to do it right now . Can it be delayed for the other things . I would submit that the missile leg and thor leg and the three legs of the triad were built into an attitude we were looking for. The missile is the most responsive. The bomber is the most

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