He grabbed the long trunk and returned from my suitcase. Thank you, i said. I was grateful for his help. I took the elevator to the fourth floor and dragged my things down to the room. There was a roll of rooms on one side with a bathroom to the other. I peeked into the bathroom, it reminded me of the gym and maybe we can put pictures up. It looked like it belonged in an orphanage. It was tight for room in a bed, desk and a chair. I moved my hand to make sure it was venting out cold air, it was hot. I poked my head into the room next to mine. The people on the room paused and turned their attention. Hi, this is melanie. Her accent was thick, southern, she reached her hand out, i shook it. Well, my name is nicole, i said im from los angeles, california, i had a new name and origin place. I wasnt shatakawp nicole was my middle name and name from here on out. It sounded professional and easy to say. Nice to meet you she said, im from springsfield, mississippi. Where the hell was that, i said . Everyone on the plane was so nice to me, my mother couldnt come. She had to work. I tried to rearrange the order and focus on my travels. A girl came up from behind, the tight hallway was becoming con guested. Excuse me, can we get by. She said she paused briefly to introduce herself. My name is jade, i live in the room at the end of the hall and here is my mother. They were heading to the door with a common area with a bag full of trash. Im nicole, im from los angeles. They tried to matched me with parents, they could not. After a few minutes of small talk i return today my home. I made the bed first and put pompoms from high school. Everyone loved cheerleaders. Happy, fretty, pampered and without worries. Nearly the exact opposite of my life at that point. I was done. I unpacked the entire room in less than an hour. I walked in jades room, i return today my room and flopped down on the bed. I had no television or radio. To pass the time before lunch i listened to the conversations through the paper thin walls. Did you see that little girl from california, she came all by herself. It sounded like jade, she was talking to her mother. I know, she said, thats so sad. Although i couldnt see her im sure she was shaking her head. She felt sorry for him. I couldnt take it. I focused on the green flower on my bread spread and blinked to push back tears. I had there working hard to convince myself that i was going to be okay. To them i was a little girl from california without parents to help her unpack, to me i was the girl who made it. Thats it. [applause] thank you, nicole, for that beautiful reading. I love what you said by the love of black women that we all sustain may we all be sustained. Nicole, we will meet you out in the lobby for a further conversation and book signing, thank you very much. When i tune into it on the weekends its usually authors sharing new releases. Watching the nonfiction authors on book tv is the best television for serious readers. On cspan they can have a longer conversation and delve into their subject. Book tv weekend, they bring you author after author that spotlight the work of fascinating people. I love book tv and im a cspan fan. Hello, welcome to our afternoon session. I am Andrea Blackman with the National Public library and todays format we have three distinguished panelists and coauthors, for our afternoon session we are joined by professor at austin dr. Kendall, so thank you so much for taking time to be with us today. As a friendly reminder, the festival depends heavily on donations, so if you have not heard this yet, please think kindly about donating to our, donate to the festival. Ou after the session each of the authors will be signing on the plaza, books are for sale by book sale portion of the proceeds go directly back to the festival. About the book before we get started, charleston not only recounts a terrible day that happened in june 2015 but also a History Lesson that reveals aib deeper look at suffering, triumph and ongoing rage of people who help form Mother Emmanuel Church and the many ways today eats todays book and its not only charleston, story of fighting for freedom and civil rights, but it also is a story of fighting for great and understanding. We hope today you will engage our authors as you talk and hear from them how they were able to transcend bigotry, fraud, hatred, racism, poverty and misery within the pages of our book. The shootings that took place in charleston opened up a deep wound of racism, the fabric of our society. We are charleston, tells the story of people, people who have been continually beat down, but who have also triumphed over the worst of adversity, exploring the stories of one of the oldest African Churches, looking at forgiveness and healing, it is my pleasure to introduce you to our panelists, first we have kurt frasier. He has been an editor of five different daily newspapers in the south including his hometown paper and hes a former michigan fellow at the university ofr michigan and is currently marketing and Public Relations manager at magnolia plantationic and gardens nearly charles tone north carolina. Professor of history at the college of charleston where he teaches United States in africanamerican history. He has been a consult antidepressant on many Historic Sites and served on board of several history oriented nonprofit organizations. Dr. Powers has been seen in pbs films such as the African Americans, many rivers to cross and slavery and the making of america. And lastly marjorie, poems have been nominated for multiple awards, the author of prizee winning story shackles and former president of low Country Initiative for the literary arts. She serves on the Editorial Board of the university of South Carolinas palmetto poetry series and also joined faculty member from the university dr. Kendall who will help shape our conversation today. T please join me in welcoming ouro panelists. S [applause] thank you so much, andrea. Ou we are fortunate to have these three with us today. The idea of bringing people from different sides of the literary arts in order to tell this story is marvelous and one of the things you should know is the background of literary efforts of these writers. Kurt frasier has written example behind gods back. Having taught africanamerican music for a long time i was curious about the book and one of the things he talked about, he collected ten years worth of oral histories of his people and he talks about the fact that when he entered college his culture was somehow denigrated and he felt as if he had to hide a precious gem, precious gem of heritage, what was curious is just this week one of my africanamerican male students said exactly the same thing. He said, when i went to my first predominantly white school i was placed in a box of stereotypes which meant i had to consistently defy the stereotypes. I was i first recognized my blackens there. I was embarrassed where i came from, the way i spoke, the way i looked. One of the important aspects of this book is that we are still dealing with some of the issues that herv has brought up if i may in his wonderful book. I also am very pleased that marjorie is here because one of the things that this preparation led me to do is to read some of her poetry and her poetry specially one poem from the endless repetition of an ordinary miracle shows that shes has the spirit to delve beneath the his or horror of this tragedy and i just if i may one to read two stances from a poem that she was supposed to read at the South Carolina inauguration for their governor, i think it was nikki haley, was that right . But the two minutes was thought to be too much time to devote to poetry. So we are going to devote at least 30 seconds to poetry right now. From her poem one river one oner boat, here where the Confederate Flag still flies beside the state house haunted by our past, conflicted about the future at the heart of it we are at war with ourselves, huddled together on this boat, handed down to us, stuck at the last bend of a wide river splintering near the sea. Clearly from this poem you see that she is ready to address the situation, though, in a humorous side note it reminds me very much of a statement bessie smith made. She was talking to irish maid, well, girl, you came over on one boat, i came over on another boat and now we are in the same boat. [laughter] i may borrow that. [laughter] and last but not least bernard powers of my own heart in academic who is nonbiased because he got one degree in North Eastern university and one degree at North Western university. [laughter] his book, a social history, was it 1822 to 1883 85 was elected a choice award for of the best academic books. We have the people whose skills are necessary to tell the story and what i would like to know first and foremost is how did the three of you come together. Well, thats great because thats what we were going to start with, so thank you, read our mind. O it started with a poem and we liked to begin with this poem because it kind of puts us back to that day in june. The day after the shootings in Emanuel Church and they were putting together pullout section for that sunday and Emmanuel Church opened for Services Sunday following the shooting,g, it was still a crime scene downstairs but opened for services and wanted some articulation of what this meanth to charlestonnians, so i wanted it to foal like a prayer and charles tone is also called a holy city because theres so many churches there. Thats the title and i found a speech that reverend who was a minister who was killed and in this speech he said, only love can conquer hate and those were his words speaking to me from youtube and i used that as an graph because it seemed to embody what we hear. Holy city, let us gather and be silent together like stones, glittering in sunlight so bright it hurts our eyes emptied of tears and searching the skies for answers, let us be strangers together as we gather in circles wherever we meet to stand hand in hand and sing hymns to the t heaven and pray for the fallen and speak their name, clemente, cynthia, tawanza, ethal, sheranda, myra, susie and they are not alone as bells call across the wounded Charleston Sky we close our eyes and listen to the same stillness ringing in our hearts holding onto one another like brothers, like centers sisters because we know wherever there is love, there is god. So the poem was used by the bbc to kind of be the text for their story, which had beautiful visuals of just the crowds andds the thousands of people that were going to pay tribute and a lot of people saw this on the news and a woman who does book promotion, you should really do work with them. Your heart is into this, i said, no, i dont think so. That poem took just about every ounce of my brain andai imagination and then she was insistent and i thought, well, you know, people from charleston should tell this story. We were right in the middle of it and so i picked up the phone and called my friend from a her. Good afternoon. Well, i was happy to hear from marjorie, we hadnt talked in a while and i decided that, you know, after i got over the excitement of her offer to engage in her with the opportunity to do this book, my mind started spinning and i was immediately reflecting on the past and my Life Experiences which at that point had prepared me, i think, for this challenge because i grew up in the church. As a journalists who had covered the community, i knew people in the community and i said, i can tap those resources, just try ta and i love your references to the gula community and culture because this is what we thought, i thought people in that community in the 50s and 60s who were iconic gula images in charles tone, womenma who sold baskets, women who walked the streets with heavy loads on the heads, the foods that i could blend into this narrative, those are the thoughts that were going through my mind. Of course, i had family andse friends who were still members of the emmanuel and i moved away from charleston in mid 1960s and so since after moving away and coming back, i learned more about charleston and the church and the role that the church played in the community that i thought that this would be a very Good Opportunity to bring those narratives, those stories in how the role of how the church played not only in the community but also Civil Rights Movement. Th charleston is not noted as one of the leading cities in the Civil Rights Movement but many things that happened there in the 1960s. As a kid growing up there, my grandmother used to tell me,p when you go to college youre going to alan university and alan university is named for first bishop. Richard alan. As a kid growing up there, i did not know of rich history of the denomination, i learned that sometime later but as a journalist i had the opportunity to interview dr. Powers own stories and i knew of Ongoing Research in the domination and the role it played in the abolitionist movement, through civil rights and into the modern day. So i knew that if we were going to do this, going to do it properly, we needed that foundation and i called dr. Powers. And so i was as i always am very glad to hear from her but i was surprised at the project that he began to describe to me. I was also intrigued and enticed as the offer to participate as he mentioned for a number of years ive been working on a project really focused on the history of the African Methodist Church in South Carolina mainly from beginning until the period of the great migration, the 1920s and so i thought that that this would be a wonderful opportunity for me to take some of the research that i had already developed and into w certain extent turn it in a different direction and bring that material into this project. And so i immediately said, yes, you know, im willing to participate and what do we need to do next. And so in terms of the project,i we all had different but complementary roles on im a historian and i immediately knew that we need today providevi background on the ame church because people would be particularly confused by name African American episcopal, how can it be more than wasnt and so on and so forth. Talk and i knew we needed to talk about the founding bishop, richard alan, a man who began life as a slave and was able to become free through purchase, through selfpurchase, hard work and selfpurchase, becomes free right at the end of the american revolution, was really one of the leading black ministers in the white Methodist Church in philadelphia, but alan had two concerns, at the end of the 18th century and one was that racism was widely and deeply established in the whitepl Methodist Church and the other thing that alan believed was that African People ought to be able to control their own religious destiny and so those two factors would lead him to organize from the white Methodist Church in philadelphia in the late 18th century and then to create an independent religious denomination, indeed, the first black religious denomination in the country and it would be organized on a National Basis beginning in 1816 and he would become the founding bishop of the denomination. And so really incorporated into the very finer of the church is social justice and antiracism. And for our purposes, we know that there was an early branch of the denomination established in charleston in 1818. Br now, that may seem to be just a small fact but its far morere than that when you really think about what ive just said. Charleston was really the heart of slavery in america in thes early 19th century and so for black people to have gathered themselves together and then to have created an independent denomination of methodist that was antiracist was quite troubling for wide authorities there. For and eventually this church which was the antecedent to mother emmanuel was destroyed. The year it was 2022 and it was destroyed because it was determined that some of the members and leaders of this church which was then known as the African Church were involved in what was known as the denmark slave conspiracy where a group of people had organizeder themselves to try to overthrow slavery and then escape from south South Carolina in 1822. And so what that really meant from 1822 to end of civil war theres no church in South Carolina at all. So what we do in the course of the book is to really look at a serious of challenges that mother emmanuel ame church faced from very first one which was threat to existences and we layed out a series of other challenges then that this congregation has been faced with and then met successfully over time including the most recent challenge. En we ha but we dont we dont just lay out a linear historical treatment in the book, we dont do that because we thought it would be much more interesting to organize a series of episodes where the past and the present interacted with one another as we presented the characters, experiences and institution that is we discussed and so on and so forth and, indeed, when we thought about it, we thought about the city of charleston and if youve been to the city of charleston, you know that you walk up and down the street and you pass from one period of time to another period of time, from 18th century to 19th century even as you walk up and down one block after another in the historic district. We tried to put the book together in that way. And if i could just read a brief section to try to illustratete that point to you, denmark the free black who organized the conspiracy in 1822 was a leader in the African Church in charleston and he very frequently convened prayer meetings as the guys under which he organized the plan for his proposed. And in the book, in the chapter entitled the slave conspiracy, i talk about the meetings that he held and the way in which they were organized and what they did at these meetings and so on. And then in the next paragraph we jump ahead to june 17, 2015, the main floor of mother emmanuel in charleston. Let me read the brief section to you. On that tragic evening of june 11th, 2015 another prayer meeting was held at charlestons emmanuel ame church but its composition and circumstances were different from meetings, vaseys were illegal and usuall. Clandestine, punishment and meetings were exclusively male which made their potential threat even greater. His teachings relied on the Old Testament and god of judgment, justice and physical delibreins providing the means for black people to gain freedom and control over their own bodies. How different was the scene in emanuel fellowship hall. Only a small number were gathered, but their grandest wish was for the multitude to come and to hear the good news of the gospel proclaimed to study and to discuss it so that their soles souls might be saved. Most of the attendees were women which was not unusual particularly for the mod earn church. Prayer meetings, public gatherings that broke no laws and the participants had every expectation of safety in gods house but was know that they were not safe that night. And so the book is organized around a variety of themes that allow us to bring the past andnd the present together in an interactive way and we think that that creates a dynamic that that produces greater interest and texture for the various characters that we discussed. Dr. Powers mentioned that the past is always present in charleston. As a boy growing up there, i didnt understand this at the time. I didnt understand who there was a street that bordered our neighborhood, Public Housing project, the street named lawrence. Well, it wasnt years later that i knew who law remembers was. Its henry lawrence, a slave trader. I didnt know that that facade which is Still Standing today in charleston was the facade of a rice mill and rice was a very important commodity in colonial South Carolina that made the colony wealthy and charleston rivaled philadelphia and new york in prominence but i did know and we all knew and we alll hated henry lawrence. Im sorry john c. Calhoun and the church, calhoun is the street in which the the street on which the street fronts. The church is on calhoun street and not too far theres a statute of john c. Calhoun and in the book i interviewed austin, mr. Austin told me that as a boy growing up there, he used to throw rocks up there, he and his friends use today throw rocks and try today hit the statute but they never could hit the statute but didnt prove baseball arms. Years later, i met harvey jones. Harvey is a few years older than me and harvey was probably one of the first persons who told me of his relationship with the church and his role as a young r protestor in the Civil Rights Movement, abby emmanuel, one of the churches that organized a Youth Movement in the 1960s to protest against the segregated lunch counters on king street which is still today the Central Business district on the peninsula of charleston andd harvey jones shared with me an essay he had written and i kept that away and i didnt do anything at the time and maybe some day in the future i would be able to do this in some writing. I when marjorie called me i immediately thought of harvey and i called him and set up an interview and he told me about the protest period, period of protest and his involvement in one of the marchs in 1963 in which he met dr. King who had come to charleston. In the summer of 1963 they initiated the selective buying effort as part of the charleston Civil Rights Movement. Hes can participate in the student protest because hed had just about enough of the laws. I realize i didnt want to not be able to go into a restaurant and eat like who rather be dead than treated less than a human. He have a number to nettie to protest along dr. King. During the march they stopped to each of the businesses that have refused to integrate. He threw a beer on jones. And then it was fine. How would i have reacted if that was me. A strong demonstration of the enormous nonviolence but forgiveness because its forgiveness that has elevated the story to the global perspective and in the book we deal with forgiveness quite extensively. They take a very complicated subject and brings meaning to it. We just want to address that. We were fortunate to able to be speaking with that. I just want to talk about it as briefly as possible and read a little passage the people that were at the Bible Studies that night. People have worked all day stayed for two hour Quarterly Business meeting probably had not have dinner. And commencing on to go to a bible study. It was like 100 degrees or something all of these people were people who practice their faith in all areas of their life. Many of them get their license to minister that night the preacher was there was also a state senator these are people not motivated by greed. It is an extension of that but we we can all learn from and not all of the family members and offered forgiveness. One of the things we wondered about right away was where they told to say that it was spontaneous im just entering a little bit from the book i will quote president obama who came down and spoke about the forgiveness. His wife was leading a bible study that night. He had worked 27 years on the probation officer. God told me exactly what to say. Because i didnt even want to be there. Did she suffer. I said exactly what god said to me knew where to begin in a new word and because he told me that was it if you go back and listen to his voice he said i forgive you but we would like you to take this opportunity to repent and give your life to the one who matters most power of the family statements is larger than them who really understands. He says the minute you set back, to children he said he experienced a kind of peace. What happened to my wife no more i said i knew where to go from there. I knew not to dwell on the tragedy anymore its amazing to speak to these people about it. Its not absolution using amazing grace. We thought about singing for you today. With the words amazing grace. His ideology probably did not differ much on it reinforces everything cap that grace that using anything amazing grace. May we find ourselves worthy of that precious and extraordinary gift as long as our lives and our may god spread grace on the United States of america and the times we are living in metz for sure. We have never quoted from the president s eulogy but it kind of seemed important i would like to talk a little bit about where we are today. I dont know how many of you knew this is a really significant thing. Its quite extraordinary. Why is forgiveness so often missing from our lives. The hate crime trials started the day below the election. He has five wanted to jump want to dump jump in and talk about this. Uncertainly next expected family members as an organization known as gun sense. They do not possess them. To ensure that background checks are universal into prevent the very tragic situation that allow the murder to gain access to the scott because he was not entitled to obtain a weapon but the default position as it has been finished within three days the applicant is entitled to purchase weapon. Is rather unfortunate nevertheless is a situation and then we have a group of people who have come out of the community and also out of official in the city to promote since we had had 70 of these tragic and unfortunate she needs in the last couple of years it has been known as project illumination. One of these examples of the shooting a shooting that occurred in north charleston. Thats initiative that has gotten off the ground. In charge of the a and e church. As part of the brief of the church. The percentage of the proceeds of our book go to the Scholarship Fund and the Literacy Foundation was founded by her family she was a beloved librarian. The families are trying to do things to better do education and change the gun laws they were trying to help the constituents. And the wife jennifer. They really stepped into a row. The story store is not over. So many on score. They can take advantage of this. They have come out of this. I might add one thing. It was a very unique and special organization. It was a justice ministries. As a group of ministers from all denominations in the city who came together and form this organization. To deal with issues such as weight staff. The dropout rates. They were having these ongoing talks to bring about change. Ironically some of the leaders of this organization were on a pilgrimage to birmingham and that night their cell phones started to light up. They quickly turned around. And the next they started having prayer meetings to bring the community together. To bring about the dialogue and the healing so all of these things are going on in charleston. Hate wont win. One thing i thought it was very curious i read one of your articles. The community evolution. And just to paraphrase a slight bit. They attempted to do this. Unprecedented state and federal legislation. This result was a significant transitional. Youre talking about reconstruction and it seems like we are still in the transitional. Can you comment on what you think we can do to move past transition to jump into this idea. What do you think we can do. Your book helps the process. What else can we do. First i think we need to get to the place where we can have a real truth and reconciliation encounter of the kind that south africa has set the precedent for. And given the decade old system of all of the evils that resulted from it nevertheless people were able to come together in a very honest way talk about the the past and the way it shapes the then present and then what needed to be done. There was also the opportunity and that that that that kind of encounter provided for real forgiveness. I will never forget that situation and that the one Nelson Mandela donned the jersey and they were the National Rugby team and was the international symbol. Nevertheless they could model this kind of reconciliation thats only possible and honest way the fact that the flag flew atop and then it was displayed in the face of people until 2015 indicates that we havent really dealt with the past. The other thing is we need to prevent retrenchment by ensuring that these restrictive voting acts are turned back because this is a very serious thing that will take us back to the jim crow era. Before you respond we want to make sure we leave a few minutes to give the audience time to interact and answer questions. We can ask that you step up to the make so mic so everyone can hear you. We will let you keep talking and answering questions. I know we have some writers here. This is a practical question. How did you divide the work. We voted in thirds first of all. Obviously he knew the history and wrote those chapters. We were interweaving chapters there is a kind of a continuity of style. We did all of the interviews we have to hand in a third of a book. We did not know what the interviews were going to produce. That was really tricky. We were very critical of one another. And honest and open with a lot of stories about that. We left our egos at the door. We have great editors but the other thing is the chapters are distinctly unique. We want you to feel what it felt like to be in charleston. Those first few days and in the beginning echoes right up to the flag coming down and then obviously the chapters that are embedded with the history the natural shifting would be there anyway one of the things i was interested in some of the poetic nature of setting the stage of an every day on a wednesday night the book begins wednesday night is church night in the south. At such a wonderful beginning because it is so true and real for those who know they can get with the program very easily. But the idea of the white stucco church there is a poetic quality that combines with the everyday quality of what theyre doing every wednesday night. Somehow makes the drama of the tragedy even more stark. We wanted to really had that strength. We all know he grew up in this church. Its a great amount the corner. I knew a couple of the people who were killed. Our hearts were broken and we lived through it. We wanted those feelings to be a parent its the very smallest city. The church is right up the street from the. And we we wanted people to have a visual map of this is the church in the heart of our town. I am glad you feel that way because we wanted to make people have that sense of place we were always mindful of what happened and using the visuals of the city without over dramatizing or sensationalizing of the story. We never really wanted a cross that line but we needed to capture the emotion. Its a piece of literature and how did you use it fairly. Thats one of the things that brought that to mind. I have to be a part of the emotion. I will be using your book in one of our classes soon. Think you for your work. [inaudible] is an ongoing suffering there was three children there but those who suffered the loss. Reverend pinker ins wife and two children were in the office right off the room where the murders took place. And felicia sanders, who saw her son and aunt murdered in front of her was shielding her granddaughter, and they both survived. And be by all accounts, those three children are, you know, we, you know, heard that, you know, theyre back in school, and they have great families that are supporting them. But it seems like youre asking about the community. The children well, yeah, some of the most beautiful things, there were so many beautiful things that happened in terms of tributes and people bringing things to the church. But some of the drawings and paintings that children did in the aftermath are really just beautiful, you know . Little angels flying over the church and stuff, the way children thought about it. And there was art therapy at the library, i know, available for free to families. I dont know, its hard to say. The children in the church, their sunday schoolteachers were killed that night, they were talking this summer about starting the sunday school back up. Thats right. And there were some Psychological Services that were being provided by im not sure what the agency was, but these services were being made available to the congregation as of certain, as late as six months ago and and the thenpresent minister was encouraging all of the members to avail themselves of these services whether they really felt they needed them or not r because even if they felt that they didnt at this time, there could be issues to emerge in the future. Ive been given the cue that we are, unfortunately, out of time for our questions. I to apologize about that. I do apologize about that. But youll get a question to ask them all the questions you would like in the booksigning line at the colonnade, correct . Yes. Please join me in thank our panelists and guests with the wonderful work they have done with we are charleston. You can can them your questions up close and personal. L. Again, on behalf of the southern festival of books, we thank you so much for coming out. Thank you. Yes. Please walk with us over to the signing line if you want questions answered. [inaudible conversations] cspan, where history unfolds daily. In 1979 cspan was created as a Public Service by americas Cable Television companies and is brought to youd today by your cable or satellite provider. So it sounds like youre making an argument that if you were to narrow down what makes trump so loathsome, its his op to decision to opposition to immigration. So this is about immigration. Oh, yes. I think so. I love his trade policies, i love his no pointless wars in the middle east, but i think immigration is the great unifier. Even factoring in the fact you just wrote a book on immigration, and you have it on the mind, do you think theres evidence people at the exit polls say, well, they dont tell us that. Whenever they say that, i look at what people do say is their number one issue, and its always things like jobs, terrorism right. [laughter] you know, cultural changes, theyre all pseudonyms for immigration. And also, i mean, americans are nice people. I think they have the sense, especially with the media telling them this, if they say its immigration, its as if theyre saying something mean about immigrants. Right. As trump always says, he loves hispanics. That was my favorite tweet. Of all the things other than the mexican rapist you liked the taco bowl tweet. Oh, my gosh. That was so making fun of multiculturalism. I screamed when i read it. [laughter] i love hispanics. You can watch this and other programs online at booktv. Org. Youre watching booktv on cspan2 with top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. Booktv, television for serious readers. Next on the communicators, a look at the proposed merger between at t and time warner. Then, a debate between the candidates running for the u. S. House seat in new yorks third congressional district. Finish and live at 9 a. 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