Achieving some progress. I worry that Hillary Clinton is elected and all the problems that steve and i where you are paying for it along time to come. I worry about it about for myself and for my grandchildren. Thank you. I just want to leave you one last buckley quote to Henry Kissinger which mustve been a despair moment which is our cast is to bring the hammer blows against the bell jar that protects the dreamers from reality. The scenario is that by pounding from without, we can affect residences which will one day cracked due to the latent impulses of those who dream within, bringing to life circuit that will save the republic. Fifty years on its still too bring those hammer gloves. Thank you both for being here [applause]. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] a book tv is on instagram, follows for publishing news, schedule, schedule updates and behind the scenes pictures and videos. Instagram. Com book underscore tv. Tonight, at at the public live berries honor to have the author of three of the best american biographies of the last 20 or 30 years. Its a collective portrait that tj stiles has given us. Versus book about jesse james when she helped us understand fictional creation of the legend, a legend initially created by the kansas city star. That wouldve never happened today. [laughter] is about civil war course. Its also about a Great American theatrical and the creation of celebrities in public life. That would never happen again today. In such great moments, narrative moments, jesse, Jesse James Robbie to trade near st. Louis and is doing the First Press Release via bank robber. The makes you understand the dynamics of guerrilla warfare on the border and along Michael Thomas is one of the three books i think are necessary to understand what happened and are part of world and also it created the civil war and what may the civil war so brutal. He gives us next thursday through sunday to define us and help influence us today. Then with vanderbilt, the first first tycoon, he defined the first entrepreneurial america, building or stealing a business which could have homeric qualities. Many of these attributes could be found in of study of successful entrepreneurs. Many of those attributes would never be found in that study. In talking with our literary historiographical fathers, he mentioned in his interviews that they were dry particularly for their ability to create contacts. The characters have contacts, the main characters do but also the secondary characters have contacts, background, landscapes it becomes a portrait of the individual man that hes writing about but the place of the time that that man and habits. The truth that has a dynamic quality to it in that place and time. The reasons for the actions come from the backgrounds. The reasons for the character. Some of the best portraits in this book are generals creatinine with the romance and the legend of George Armstrong custer. They have two almost completely different views of the man and the value of a man. There is a great quote, some of you may have been here yesterday when i introduced a quote from the book, quoted from child Francis Adams junior in a favorite character in it as it turns out ive done another quote, finishing the book today. This epitomizes, i think what tj stiles can do. Adam said, the truth was would knock the romance out of you. In essence, that is what tj stiles can do with the character like vanderbilt, jesse james, or George Armstrong custer. At the same time, the brutal cynicism that is the civil war and the word on borders in the war against the indians, also still has its romance. Tj stiles is able to do that as well. To leave the romance inside the brutality. Hes a midwesterner, went to Carleton College and columbia university. Written for the new york times, vault involved with more than one pbs documentary. A guggenheim award winner, is also been a janitor in a call center employee. Which may give him some great perspective that he brings to his work. He is a man who can present both the romance and the cynicism of our history, not always the truth, a great biographer. Please welcome tj stiles [applause]. Thank you very much. For the cspan audience you should know that my 4yearold daughter, salsa, a girl son, dylan, i might book to be every weekend and they say that so boring. My 8yearold son fights me for the remote. If you have been made to wash this, dylan and sasha you have now seen man you can now turn the channel. [laughter] so as many writers have said, custer does not lack for books. There are quite a few books about custer. I dont disrespect them. Sometimes biographers are biographers are writers of nonfiction are moved by the inadequacy of what was written before, or the subject simply has not been brought to the public before. There is a lot of good writing and abundant writing. Not all of it is good, some some of it is very good. So why did i turn to George Armstrong custer . What actually is that im trying to say that you should understand . Let me put it this way, in my case there is a lot of investigation that went into my thinking about custer. Sometimes a single document can put familiar figure in a different light. In this case, the the document languages site was written by moses hansen, here is the surgeon of the second wisconsin calvary regiment. He wrote this letter in texas to the nearest superintendent of the Freedmens Bureau on octobe. Several months after the civil war had ended. He described the case in which a 9yearold girl had been kept on the plantation about 23 miles from the town of hempstead. She had been owned during slavery and like many African Americans during slavery had been separated from her family. She had been divided away from her mother. Her her mother actually was living in hempstead with the woman named mrs. Gaudi, according to the surgeon. So the nineyearold girl decided to try to find her mother. She set out and somehow cross the 23 miles into hempstead, texas. She found her mother and then sit there appear to be some of the owners of the plantation, this teenage boy had been ordered by his mother quote to bring her out or kill her. Now this is for months after juneteenth when the emancipation occurred in texas. Slavery was not yet abolished by the 15th amendment but it was, it had been put into effect in texas by the orders of the general and others. I should say that full emancipation had not yet itself. So he ordered the girl to come with him, she clung to her mother, according to hansen, he then tied her hands behind her and tied a rope around her waist. Pulled her out, tied her to the ring in the saddle, and put the spurs to the horse. Long before reaching home, this 9yearold girl that kept as a slave long after the emancipation, long before reaching the plantation 23 miles from hempstead, she was a mass of broken flesh and bones. The mother went to the marshal of the union troops for justice. He wanted nothing to do with the case. So she went went to the commander of the armed forces in the area who is also in hempstead, and asked for justice. His name was Major General George Armstrong custer. According to him he said to arrest at the boy. Then he had to make a decision. What was he going to do . How is he going to have justice this is the custer we rarely see in all the accounts of custer. Focus on on little bighorn or his role on the indian wars, this is a side we do not see so much. The administrator of occupied territory, the man who one spare justice to an asian girl due to changes. This this is a turning point in his life. It is not that everything rested upon the decision he would make. It it is not the action or question he face, yet at this moment both personally and professionally he must face the world he has helped to make as eight Major General, as an important combat officer on the winning side of the civil war. What is the world he has helped to make . That is some of the questions i asked in my book. Why is it that he had such trouble and catastrophic life afterwards. In 1865 this is this is a moment when he begins to paste that transition. He starts with the professional army officer and in his private life, his personal life which is so important to my my book, how does he deal with that role . Professionally, he is someone who had risen to national acclaim. He is not just a celebrity after his lifespan, not, not just a memory, but during his lifetime was a national celebrity. He had risen to become a Brigadier General at the age of 23. As many people are familiar with his role, he graduated last in his class at west point in 1861, but first in demerits. [laughter]. The. So from there he shows his marriage but also working from a the patronage the head of the Union Cavalry on the potomac. That gives up the opportunity to shake up the communed structure. Custer was almost directly dial directly to the battle of gettysburg. The lead, that general in a legal officer retrieve the confederate calvary ad shows up in the brigadiergeneral uniform. Very flamboyant man is black velvet. A generals uniform is doublebreasted had with the blue sailor shirts with a bright red tie and with those a lever costumes and thinking about the fact he might be a general or to have great dreams for himself. Had yet it is important to remember but perhaps it is justifiably and try to carry into that world that era is a smaller then the battlefield that is controlled and commandandcontrol is conducted that is why that is why trumpeters have buglers probably trusted had abrogated cavalry with this elaborate costume but if he is leading the charge will we is also leading the retreat to there we are. But it is a confidence in himself with his fighting skills. Of this warfare as a cavalry been an advocate mostly place in a fight they usually use revolvers these are close range weapons can add custer maybe the last american in general to kill someone this closeup. So that courage had is reckless and idc him as a capable and professional. To assure the command of a view to calgary to make daschle celebrity. That was the attention getting. Headset a history the fact to have skill as a career but one of the four most combat as any Division Commander had was one of the very few. And now under martial law. You have slavery add a very sad fetish revolution and from the future of former slaves and then and facing with the case of one was brutally murdered beecher she wanted to be with her mother. Also with a personal spied it again with that short sketch end immediately from the fire. And head to see it as something great. But every word is misspelled. Pour people who were selfreliant had with the border state culture. And hank culturally and politically custard goes to west point to play pranks is that he plays to an audience. Add to be accepted if field of young men and including some of the best families in the country to wait and do that that is the rule that he plays he has the comments to set place for it different audience. Which is very different from the union army. To see that his personal views are often in conflict and even betrays his personal views and has very strong conservative feelings very strong feelings and even before the war even from what ive budget from the first and the book. Had to believe that victory. And then killed the other men in personal conflict. That keeps compelling for word. So murky that antebellum america and in that is created for the civil war me whos trying to build support them through a very convoluted warship that i talk about she goes to washington to become a personal lobbyist. Than the other side of the story that i break out dye tried to set the stage of a debate in and facing a welleducated the yen a middleclass woman and wellrespected so she accepts that. So constantly working with restraints. Says she is going 82 washington to lobby to keep her husbands name friday and center that as we leave her letters that everyone says he is corrupt but i see he is a nice man. Yes it is true but i can work with this guy. So very shrewd in yan and interesting. A sova comes under before the be. And to be insulated Northern Virginia she worked with the family and a first chance that she got like somebody enslaved she escaped. Custer had just finished the Gettysburg Campaign with the Confederate Army fighting heavily all the way. End he decides the is our colleague down then with his household as general to say that is a nice luxury. And he goes to the contraband decamp and he talks to young women and said would you cook for me . And say i thought a a a a about. But what is interesting is this is the woman would never have security for herself. We dont have a lot of details but we didnt know what slavery was. And it is very likely to be divided by marriage. Families are ripped apart and personal security is nonexistent. If you are enslaved in the south your body is not your own. So how do you survive . She do information was paramount. But had tried to trade information and had is someone who began to turn her position that they be considered supported it into an authority. She begins to distribute food as contraband so takes the opportunity that she is create authority for herself. And toy with custer into battle. And she is actually captured it turns out to be one of his great accomplishments as commander. She can expect possible execution, at the very least to be sold back end to slavery is not returned to their original master of yet the first opportunity she gets she makes a at a genius escape and she cooks had remains there so that is a brave and astonishing moment. And add the cubed this gunfire campus caught fire and she do that he had gunpowder. She grabs that heavy candid and polls about herself. They cannot believe how cool hand deliver it she was. After the civil war they would be deployed in had custer and the brother tom as custer takes command there in louisiana as she wrote was inflicted on her race. Said she sees is that rare opportunity and tries to figure out what it meant. Every plantation has debris. It is the young negro woman of an america that will ever oh my debt to the civil war to eliminate slavery. And yet there is another side to this story. The personal side and floor the authority and this is a personal relationship and this savory abolishes. And the primary survival mechanism if she has to learn how to survive bin very slavery. She would never forget that. In the early 20th century but she never dealt with black people before. Had allies the manages the relationship as an ally and a friend but she maneuvers her out of the kitchen and. Over time as the times increase state increasingly frustrating. That the celebrity she is dishing out keeps her from asserting herself. So 1865 so custer has to do with a challenging environment with a state that has never bed debated so slavery in texas where from 275,000 up at 400,000 because slaveholders worship big their property to texas to grow stronger. So you have about thailand explosive environment. Also custer realizes mad who had confidence in add combat but in other areas it was a different story. That insecure young man tried desperately to prove something about himself has to prove something to himself. But whenever challenged him to get defensive back here he is said texas not just with the Third Division and the commanding regiments of volunteers and what does this situation require . The modern skills of our organization and a huge for example, so that victory in washington and with the thoroughbred resource. That is a 1,865 that is the self indulgent side to get selfabsorbed. That side comes out. Tester is feeling challenged literally hiding the corpse as he goes to texas. So he rides a horse nobody knows he has said. It is a race horse people are cheering and throwing flowers and the horse panics and takes off he has far risen one hand flowers and one hand. And the harrisburg weekly page rewrites about this moment it is in comparison with then involuntary homage on at the heart of province is that the time to identify an earlier borrowing did tick america one that is grappling with issues like race during a very difficult time. When he is assigned to the west to get the other side of a boundary. The correspondence from c. Lewis says putting into this Department Search of the inn offers no feel for this your talents but it is hardly expected he will assume office purely executive with there is fighting to be done. So even at the time as custer enters the era in which an executive is needed not combat but executives. So i came up with this in maya ahead i wish i had but america is changing they may not like dead but it is changing. He is feeling challenged in texas and dealing with troops who dont want to be there. And tolstoy writes in one of his essays as of early experience the commander feels unable to inspire his troops will often retreat from his men were trying to do it through application via the troops will see right through that. The troops loved him throughout the war but as a villager he doesnt feel up to the task so he lashes out outrageous discipline shaving heads or even flogging the was allied by congress outlawed it even carried out execution even sentenced to death a Court Martial and officer for circulating a petition asking the commander to resign. But he showed great graciousness on his part he commuted his sentence then the italy finds this out after he is listed as a deserter then they say ready in dave and polemicized and say fire. So this shows custer being challenged as he lashes out he cannot maintain that during combat. So now he comes with all these challenges he has to look at the case of the nine yearold girl in his personal life a woman he respects deeply in his household longer than his wife and she is trying very hard to teach him about the people he only saw as the other but he is deeply conservative doesnt believe the governor should intervene at the local level he doesnt believe the army should play any role and he has led deep seated beliefs about race. So he is not incapable to see but yet it is very difficult for him and he goes back and forth but in the context the traditional governor of texas Andrew Johnson is very conservative in states open the end must be a white mans country but governor hamilton rights to new the commander in in texas free men in every portion of the state have been badly treated at were murdered. Most obvious as it is to me we cannot depend on the civil authorities. For some time we have to deal justice that settled purpose with military authorities to prompt such a presence by a few examples to have a happy effect. Sobel sides he feels personal and political in this is under a military administration and yet those deeply held conservative views and conservative been great 8065 but the democratic world view is buried deep in him and he says it is not irresponsibility so he releases them then they immediately release the boy but it isnt just the personal moral crisis but i laid out for the reader but this is the part at a professional level and with my personal career path is essentially is a temporary army so it tells you he was not really a general. But yes he was he resorts to his regular army of capt. And it is very confusing in the volunteer army goes out and goes to washington and testify is in basically explains truthfully how disloyal at the time to maintain the ratio orator in juice plant slavery but at the same time feel like describing the confederates because they feel like they have to. And he is the key to radical republicans so he is honest but he also knows his audience. He always plays to the audience. But he finds out there is a conflict between the republicans in congress and president Andrew Johnson with establishing civil rights with the quality for the free people or a racial hierarchy that bylaw freed slaves will be kept down. And custer period letch surprises with johnson in general agreement was assigned to a black regiment he is supposed to beat the other to the colonel which by the way has an excellent record. So he writes directly over the head of his superiors to you under Johnson Johnson sets out an agreement to work to defeat the republicans to take control and to grant does not want to be a part of it if he does is 80 the publicly in he retreats but custer is on the stump right next to johnson is already an officer not just letting himself to be used as a Political Tool but enjoys it. But if custard moves out to the west after this we take him as people are badly divided about him today. But the beginning of the political divide happens over the question and of reconstruction and. With the role of the federal government and that is apart from the west even though it comes from the west. So as a result that his wife says i know politics dont go anywhere near it. Stay away. She says youre not ready. So he gets a salaried am not sure that was directly but he goes west. There are some besides to the story but with his role in public life so if i stress the other sides of the story with the civil war battles these are key to my book so talking about other aspects because theyve tried to integrate those with the sides at at the time were key to the public view of him. So he goes to the west and custer is facing a crisis late 1866. He was hoping the 10,000 he would to york which is a place you dont associate pastor probably his favorite place on earth. He began to get to know the stockbrokers who were also the political kingmakers in the Democratic Party with a friday its years of all street. So the political interest would be recognized with the need to rise above the the also leads to the defensiveness is it is two sides of the same point. But don one dies he has embarrassed to itself publicly and there is controversy taking over him. So he writes about all the women that are flirting with him and how much attention and he is getting. With your interested sexually if you are insecure if feels pretty good and for custer it is like she is being fed a drug ended his eyes it will elevate his value. So they had real passion but he is thinking i am pretty great. So she is frustrated that they go west. Earlier mention the how jealous she was put there seems to have sped the flirtation that develops in in kansas between custer and this young woman who has come with them. So elisa brown and libby custer and custer himself. And early 672 of the expedition he has to hang over him some sort of problem to cross the line with this young woman. And so he goes out to general hancock to the lakota and the calvary officer to chase after them and they did not want to do it. Saying there will not be in the war. And again and again he has had weak from this leader who if he has a real sense of humor. He cuts back in and says there is a truce. How about i enjoy your camp rand look around he says come around and surrender to borrow. He says good idea if he ever comes back. Then later he attacks the queue began. I embellishing a little bit but getting him again and again shows a real sense but custer abandons his men and to of them are ambushed killed by possible indians and he does nothing about and he continues his march. It is the low point of his life and is often taken as the great turning point of his life as he hits rock bottom. Because through larger currents of america they he is in crisis ever since he began to see a world in which it was over to carry him over this crisis for himself. The secure man who needs attention so all of this comes to a head with the new type of warfare dealing with exceptionally good opponents and comes with a great crisis. But yet custer manages to save himself that is counter intuitive which is his ability to fight. To obscure the fact the one thing that he did well is he could fight. He is called back early after he is courtmartialed and he comes back and fight the battle and custer bear some blame for the deaths there actually he was carrying on his orders the way prescribed but that implicates the army rather than ancaster. This is very much the army of the attacking populations so all docetism exceptional villain he cannot be held for personal actions but it shows carrying out the actual operations and he carries on for their operations that helps to close the chapter. I talked about other aspects that go beyond custer the nature of the crisis that leads to the fact is no settlement but migration that is teethree the Natural Resources that others have talked about a start to incorporate in my book so i talk about though larger history it is a story of custer and his life but meanwhile the the customer is under crisis and what happens . Seeresses slave owner always dealing with these complicated issues with the employer and employee allies with eliza brown there is the tension and a power and now in the up black community would be basically goes nuts. Not crazy but living in fear thinking she will be raped there is a lot of interracial stuff that happens and they say what are you talking about . But it is heightened by the fact there is a great crisis so they all live on the plains she goes from living in a black community and a multiracial and will take a look cool dash cultural world and they go to this isolated post but she is isolated. There is no community she is a part of how he gets increasingly more confident and then fires allies said brown after six years one of the most dramatic events you see them together fighting and the great plains with a great crisis and finally ends the defiers elisa. So the book closes with their reunion after custers death. But as the book goes on and i follow the episodes of custers life i Pay Attention to the ways of the book. He is not simply a soldier barrasso and outdoorsman he loved to ride ahead of his troops in the expedition to scout camp sites for also trying to take part took the total of two years in new york you add them all together. With the financiers he tried to create an illusion of a prosperous business but yet he never actually attends the business and it never goes anywhere so he sees what is going space straight but yet he cannot yet quite come to grips with the business of what the Financial Markets are all about. He loves the theater and as a famous actor custer begins to write he is a passionate writer and has his memoirs to the new National Magazines and the first two chapters in his book are actually an attempt to present himself as an intellectual with a very serious position that reflects some of the thinking of racial believes that the time but with that National Narrative you see him go up to the edge. The civil war impacted his generation like roald war what did. World war would but they cut out of the work but like many veterans do but custer custer, is out of the civil war something that is key to the popularity. So it is a univision before the war. But this is the tries to take part of the sensibilities emplace some success but he has a Bad Reputation as a member of the army command. Those of their buried in the files of the national archives. A problem officer. He cannot get along with a Larger Organization and. In the also follow him into kentucky where he is against the kkk with violent with resources. And those said it is finally crushed and by the time he goes out he is 9,000 in debt. President s of the Largest Companies in america are making six or 8,000 per year. Sold custer always creates those disasters for himself. And general greeted in what does custard to . He testifies to our capitol hill and walking through capitol hill to his commander in chief. So stay at of politics. So he wants to take part in the world in he has one more chance ases credit for himself from custer superiors and from himself in this campaign and the one thing that he does well is let them down and all to believe that is such a shock. He had many flaws in people will be very frustrated with my book because i explained them but one is to fight in one that he feels that but to look back before his life that says so much about him in america in that is custer always the exaggerated american. Thankyou. [applause] hello. Was said general sheridan from group to is that how he could get back to what he was good at . Absolutely. The relationship is not as wellknown as sheridan. It is an important theme of the book but it comes to a head right before the campaign is starting to call grant the modern general and he is an idealist. He gets fed up with custer. He will not deal with him directly during the civil war but custer was a fighter in grant thought it had to be won by fighting said he respected his skills but after the war in creating this crisis for himself over and over again i found he gave a political speech. Custer was a serving army officer a commanding general of the rb and goes to tammany hall to make a speech for the opposition but sheridan was the last and most powerful patriot and they really developed a close relationship. Homeless like a fatherson relationship. So sheridan bails out custer and he intervenes that sheridan asks for clemency with the Court Martial but after his conviction in 1867 that i talk about because custer challenges his conviction in the press and in the army were violating to challenge the intellectual integrity of the commune of the structure of the army and there is a discussion he should be courtmartialed and sheridan does not approve so he begins to intervene but by the end even sheridan is getting fed up with custer said you wish would spend as much time to prepare his regiment to go out on the campaign as he does with politics. So with is a hypothetical would he keep saving him . Because by the end he had aggravated him. Faking how he is so confident and blind and deaf civilian from noncombat i kept thinking of someone like patton although he was quite wealthy but can you comment on the psychology of that . This is something that is very interesting and patton is a good example. Of someone who creates a difference for himself but yet he had real skill as a commander no question. Ted people will say a million things to say you are wrong but they had a lot of respect as a commander and save himself from those disasters of the troops with his ability to fight but he was good at fighting. But the problem with custer is the battle is farther and farther apart. If you count the campaign that ensues that led to Great Results in early 1860s 9n1873. And he has two major battles even with a crushing victory but the line for recklessness he measures our resources carefully and shows real professionalism as a combat commander to go further and further apart so pat and was forced to resign and the save the with custer. The message got bigger and the chances to save himself got farther. To followup, what you seek would have happened if not . Id deftly he would have bought my book. [laughter] i think all the people who hated him also would have bought my book to cover the bases. That is in the interest the question. The review were said it is the way he died but that is wrong his most famous for the way he died if we if he didnt talk that way we read now learn about him but also the way he impacted the Public People who are real feelings or heaters on my Facebook Page there is a post that the publisher posted now there are hundreds of people who are talking about how much they hate custer. They hate custer because he symbolizes big issues during his lifetime. So that time was significant but his trajectory of the future is the question in and would we remember him if he served out his years in the army . I dont know. What would have happened . I have is taken some destructive capacity. Tried to get out of that dead. So it is possible he could have dug himself felt but possibly digging yourself another hole after that. You dont have to like to my note you dont have to hate him but just to continually make trouble he is a threedimensional figure. He might have exploded eye fatigue he exploded today figure out a makes him go tick tick tick boom. And his wife was a fascinating woman in the light is a brown that it is there we are case you can really talk about his state that of all the tile explosive human being and im not trying to rescue him or condemn him but to be honest in the context of the times. So heres another question. Know he would not have become president. Perhaps in 20 years but there is no way. I am familiar with the leaders of the Democratic Party i have read through their papers and i can tell you theres not talking about him at all. He did not register so you dont just come out of the blue light that to become president. Now going you to politics she felt she antiwashington and already felt she was a leading people dash a leading very dangerous people so with the fact it was not on the radar screen as a candidate with the ringleaders of that era. I did not put it in the book because theres so little that we talk about but i will tell you that. 7n you rented to a reconnaissance position can you confirm if there is gold . Was this an expedition for the army or for the politicians who wanted to acquire this land with a pretext against the sioux indians with his financial aspirations that played out in the york . Interesting question. One of the things about his death it is said usually by people who dislike jam it is politic justice. But there is precious little and history he led an expedition in 1874 that would have made my book interesting. To the black hills that were part of the nation and they found gold during the Great Depression it was called that until the other Great Depression saw lead to people violating the treaty is to go to set up my the camps but a few things. It was a military expedition and was the brainchild of general sheridan. Here was constantly reduced in numbers and they didnt have the troops they needed. Sometimes there were conflicts with migrants. He wanted to place the ball around the reservation until the army could get the troops together if another conflict erupted and that was still whole with a round the reservation but if you read the newspapers which only had a few thousand white settlers at the time they would the ahead of time so he didnt go looking for gold but everybody expected it. So some prospectors came along so custer carry out this expedition even though he did not look personally. But he was more interested ted a cultural area. But he said it was easily accessible. But golds was money. You could take gold to have that big kid down into kuwait and an people treated that. There were greenbacks elude the gold dollars. And anybody cant find it. So its not that he was innocent. But this was part of the context with the guys who carried it out more than anything. Their possibility that custer that he was what . Oic. That a troop shot him . Yeah thats actually an interesting question. I dont think so. I deal with a little bighorn but i deal with it in a particular way in my book. I want readers, the world did not need another book on little bighorn. There is a lovely narrative it, jim donovan wrote a narrative about it. Some of the books are very good. So i tried instead to give the reader the experience of little bighorn the way americans had, so i i will not even tell you how i deal with it. When we get to the last chapter custer writes off over the horizon and the new jump ahead a couple of years as americans are trying to piece together what happened. So, its not an authoritative fullblown account, i provide you with enough information to give you a granular feel of what it must have been like but i dont try to present myself i pretty much agree, custer did really go with entities in the calvary. Again, over those years of peacetime duty in which custer would go off and do his own thing, he would lash out as a man. Always insecure in his ability as a manager. So yes, he had troops who did not like him, who even hated him. Captain hated him but he was in no position to kill him. I think probably from the time custer was killed the troops are probably worried about saving their own skins. One thing i will say about little bighorn is that its not like im trying to save him or rehabilitate him, im im trying to understand who he was. Strictly as a context manager, not his role as a character or his role of other life, if we drive him, youre actually diminishing the magnitude of the victory that he achieved a little bighorn. They defeated pebbly the best combat commander, they commanded a complete regiment in the calvary led by experienced officers, they did it because they had superior numbers also because there are galvanized by the little bighorn, they were inspired by spiritual and clinical leaders such as sitting bull in the head exceptional technical leadership. So they had great skill, they had great courage, and they had better numbers. There are galvanized by victory a few days later. Instead of playing as they often did to save women and children from an attack, they stood their ground. So its not so much that custer lost even though he made mistakes, is that the indians one. I think they deserve credit for that. Rundown custer if you want to but dont diminish the magnitude was quite serious. Thank you very much [applause]. He would be happy to sign your books. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] youre watching book tv, television for serious readers. Watch any program you see here online at book tv. Org. Darcy olson, thank you so much for joining me today to talk about your book, the right the right to try. Im looking for to speaking with you today. Thank you kimberly. I first wrote
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