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Concept on campus. [applause] that same year, tony 15, another huge thing happened. We had the great honor of running into the executive chef from harvard university. We met him at a conference that we did and it was exciting because he came to us and said, i want some type of training. How do we do this . Can you help us . I said, sure. We have a two Day Training Program and windy want to do it . He said, january. We went back to the office and i asked everybody, can i do this . Of course, they said yes. It was a great success. It has become one of our most successful concepts for our campaign. Last year, we worked with over 20 universities around the u. S. , not only universities but also with hospitals, k12, and other Institutional Food Service Operations Training chefs. The training has become one of her most impactful programs. Since the first training, we have trained so many universities we cannot keep up with it. As a matter of fact, over the next three months we have 14 culinary programs in place. And this is exciting news, we will be doing our first training at a military base in the new United States in the United States. [applause] expecting to hear something in the news from the senators in iowa. [laughter] by the end of the year, we will have shown over 700 chefs around the nation how to make lants taste p great and to take animals off of the plate. [applause] and our team, which has grown, there are 30 amazing people who have ranged from various backgrounds. We have a registered nurse, dietitians [applause] wanda, whochef, chef helped open up the dining hall in north texas. She is our chef. She is awesome. We are in the process of hiring another chef and other people with a passion for saving animals, as all of you do. And in addition to universities, we are working with k12 school districts, the government and more. Politico,that watch they recently said the Humane Society of the united hates states is hitting the Meat Industry where it hurts, giving institutions and getting institutions to cut the meat they are serving and it is working. [applause] this would be possible without all of you. Together, we are making the world a better place, one plate at a time. [applause] ken, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] good evening. O and i is martin rh will be your moderator this evening. This part of the planner he is entitled, effective strategies for farmed animals. Or the end of factory farming. Before we get to that, the great people that will be speaking tonight. I have a message about a lost silver math book macbook. It was possibly left in the laguna room. Please contact me after the planner he. Or you can call. Or you can contact us on facebook. And i will leave that information at the information desk. If you find a lost, silver macbook. The prison that lost the silver back, it is right here. [laughter] so this evening as a distinguished panel, that not but they know much about the issue. Each person will speak for 15 minutes. Without more ado, i will introduce the first speaker. Schapiro [applause] of thethe founders more you clap, the less he can tell you. He is currently the Vice President of farm Animal Protection. Among his many other commitments, he wrote the introduction to running, eating, thinking, a vegan anthology. Is without more ado, here paul shapiro. [applause] paul thank you. Give it up for ken. Wasnt he amazing . Ok. Thank you very much to all of you for coming out. I know that so many of you sacrificed so much for the Animal Movement. Many of you donate time to the Animal Movement. Many of you donate money. There are two people in the audience tonight that have even donated their genetic material to be movement, give it up for my parents. [applause] paul ok right here. My father, you said it was a fun time . It was a pleasure. Paul it was a pleasure. Interesting, my mother did not say anything. [laughter] paul ok. There goes the first 60 seconds of the talk. Ok. Yearseriously, the last has seen some amazing transformations. Some huge points in our movements efforts to change the humananimal relationship. In the was the cincinnati zoo after he appeared to be helping to try to protect a boy that had fallen into his enclosure and the massive outrage that poured throughout the world because of his senseless killing. Or the slaughter of cecil the line in, lion, putting a hideous practice into the spotlight, the trophy hunters that go around the world to slaughter exotic wild animals. We saw the outrage that ensued because of that killing. Or the Animal Movements victory after 145 years of exploitation of elephants, the ringling brothers announcing that they are getting rid of the elephants. [applause] paul these are tremendous flashpoints in our movements progress toward a more Humane Society. Yet, if anybody was to objectively assess the last year and think about what type of year was for animals, you need to concede that it really was the year of the chicken. [applause] perhaps even more specifically, the year of the battery caged chickens, with more progress in the last year for these birds my van perhaps than perhaps in decades combined. From litigation campaigns and legislation campaigns to invest to advance their interests. And because of a grassroots effort of hundreds and hundreds of activists across the state, Gathering Signatures to put a measure on the ballot to make history for these animals, we are looking at real progress. Thaterson that led movement, rachel. Give it up for rachel. [applause] paul rachel after a long day of senator gathering in senator gathering in massachusetts, and i am proud to say that because of rachel and other peoples efforts to put it on the ballot, the industry did not like it that much. So what did they do . They did not want voters to vote on it, because they thought they would go with the animals and not them. They sued the state of massachusetts, tried to get us off of the ballot. Two days ago, the Massachusetts Supreme Court voted unanimously in our favor against the egg corporations. They will get a chance to make interest to make history this november. [applause] this string of losses led a politico to write that the repeated egg in the courts and public ishares how effective the entire Animal Movement has been in pushing the agenda. When we look at all of this, it makes it clear that this movement is an ascendant movement. As an important as it is to reduce suffering for animals, every person knows that is not enough to reduce the suffering. We have to get at the rate of the problem. Root of the problem. There are thousands pecking at the branches of evil for everyone that is striking at the rate. It is not to reduce the suffering, we want to prevent them from going onto the factory farms in the first place. [applause] paul how do we do that . We need to help the people move, move from an animalbased diet. [laughter] plants based diet. There are a lot of ways to do this. The primary focus has been on persuading individuals to change their diets. How do we do it . You could be like one hero of mine, who passed out one million booklets. [applause] aul if my arms looked like his , i would be wearing a tank top giving this speech. Probably the only person in the room that has bigger arms than john, david carter. He will be giving a talk tomorrow. [applause] onl johns message focused passing out brochures, david was giving speeches. And where people do pay per view , where people pay to see footage it is important that we change hearts and minds and diet when it comes to individuals. At the same time, it is important not to just change individuals, but also to change institutions. Just like what can was talking about ken was talking about, we can get huge gains for animals in the institutional space, schools, cafeterias, the military and even prisons where they are serving meat and we can work with them to slash the amount of meat they are using. The present pioneering this and has been for years, giving a talk tomorrow, Christie Middleton. [applause] and let me give you one example of how this can work. If years ago, she met with the Los Angeles School district. They served 700,000 meals every Single School day. And kristi helped persuade them to adopt meatless monday. Now everything the monday it is vegetarian, from k12, 700,000 people. Imagine how many speeches you would have to give to equal that amount of meat reduction. It is vast. This is where the Meat Industry is so afraid of. She and her team are also working with the largest food service companies, where they have implemented a Meatless Monday Campaign and hospitals to improve the health of the planet by reducing meat consumption. Now they say they are expanding into 2000 corporate client sites. Or air market, which wanted to go to meatless monday, tuesday, wednesday and thursday. The food giant, the compass group, 10,000 cafeterias in the United States. Just once a week. Compass group has not worked with another company to switch all of their cookies, all of their mayonnaise, dressings, all of their pancakes, also vegan all to vegan. Fromons of eggs removed the market because of one institutional policy. How many people doing need to persuade to eat fewer eggs in order to get that kind of demand reduction . That is the power of institutional policies and that is what we at the movement can do when we effectively and strategically organized together. And in san diego, the board of education voted to make the schools entirely meatless on mondays. And detroit, Christie Middleton worked to get meatless mondays, now they are entirely me free meat free two days a week. And ken mentioned politico. They noted that animal advocates are zeroing in on persuading institutions to cut the amount of meat they serve and it is working. [applause] news noted that the antimeat crusade is taken a toll on the beef industry. This is the type of work that the Meat Industry is afraid of because they know we can eliminate demand and huge swaths, in addition to the individual outreach as work work as well. This is part of a trend going on in the country. The Meat Industry magazine, entitled meat grata, talking about luring investors and general mills, the food conglomerate that but millions of dollars recently into a company that is heavily invested in. Millsked, why is general interested in investing millions into it, the Vice President said, if you look at the trends, half of the population is trying to avoid meat. [applause] paul for years, the Animal Protection movement has been on the right side of the debate about factory farming and we find ourselves now on the right side, and on the winning side, time and time again. So, this is why nasdaq is advising investors, how meat can impact the portfolios. Meat is declining. Think about quoting long positions in me industry stocks or security. [applause] paul all of this is indicative of the facts that our society is moving forward. We are moving toward a better day. We are moving toward a day in which our relationship with our fellow creatures is one that one alone to be based on violence or domination, but rather it will be based on compassion and respect. When people think about horande and it helps them to recognize that these animals are individuals, that those animals have families, it is our job to help the mechanized that this is not just celebrity animals like cecil, that have families. All have families. All animals want to live and be free from suffering, just like you and i do as well. All animals, whether they are companion dogs with families, or prairie dogs who have families. And yes, chickens have families. These animals have lives that matter to them. And where do we get off treating them like they exist as commodities for us to exploit how we want to . We need to recognize that the animals are here with us, not sibley for us simply for us. And we are recognizing whether with brown bears or with polar bears or with cows, these animals have the same spark of life that we have. Rds, tolar bears bi those in our barn yards, they may come in different shapes and sizes, or different fur or feathers, but all of them, they have the same consciousness that we have and they want to avoid suffering and exploitation that we ruthlessly put onto them. And the other animals of the planet our nations unto us. For too long, we have been waging a war on these nations, an unprovoked and unconscionable war raging on them. And just in the same way that usernicus and galileo showed that we are not the center of the physical universe, it is time for us to recognize that we are not the center of the moral universe either. This war goes on. It goes on on the land, the water, the savanna and inside factory farms. I believe our movement is making history and bringing us to a day when we will end the war, we will be the peacemakers between the species and finally have a more peaceful relationship with the animals with whom we share the planet. And i know it is difficult to imagine that type of world, but it might have seemed impossible to believe that somebody could go to jail for 30 years and come out and become president of a nation, but that is what Nelson Mandela did. It seems impossible until it is done. [applause] l a decade ago, they would have told you that getting rid of battery cages was an possible, now it is inevitable. It was never impossible, it was made it impossible it was made possible because in a month activists animal activist became effective. Animals do not need us to be right. It is easy to pound your chest and talk about right or wrong. In a most do not need us animals do not need us to be right, they need us to be effective. There is the deal. We are making history for animals. Agofact is, 150 years people would have said, people did say it was impossible to imagine a World Without slavery. That was a legitimate debate 150 years ago. 100 years ago, legitimate debate was saying half of you would not be able to vote. 50 years ago, legitimate debate was that black and white could share the same fountain. You wouldago, be a social pariah in any part of the country. And yet today, what might be possible tomorrow for animals, what might people say that is impossible today is a legitimate today debate that we can achieve in 1520 years when people are looking back at the way in which we so commonly engaged in a war with animals. And people are saying, it was inevitable. But you know it is not inevitable, it will only come if only each and every one of us works together to make it happen. Thank you very much. [applause] [laughter] incredible. Thank you very much. Makingt speaker, who is his way to the front is michael webermann. The executive director of farm, where he oversees a beacon v egan approach to eliminating the number of animals raised and killed for food. He is also a main organizer of the conference. Give it up for michael. Thank you. Thank you so much for the introduction, martin. Sorry you are seeing a me one more time on the stage. It looks like paul is not the only one with genetic humans in the room. I believe my mother is in the rim, is that correct room, is that correct . [applause] i assure you she is here, i texted her to confirm it. I am so glad to be here with paul, talking about the best ways that we can advocate for farmed animals. And like paul said, we cannot do it with only individual outreach, we do need institutional approaches. But i want to talk about the importance of building a generation of compassionate leaders. We cannot leave this to just corporate change, we also need people making a difference. Slides am are the going backwards. Ok. The farms mission is to create a world where animals are no longer killed for food through a Public Education campaign. And we do this work the way we do it for two reasons, one, is the numbers. The vast seriousness of the situation. Over 100 billion animals are killed globally every single year across the world. It is a number so large that we cannot wrapper heads around it. Another way to think about it, it is big, the time by the time the panel is done, over 10 million animals will have been killed for food across the world. So it is critical we do all the work we need to do to fight for farm animals to fight for farm animals. And we also need to change young people on the issue, because if are the future and we cannot just have people eating less meat and not knowing why, not knowing how, or that it was just stuck snuck into the food system. It is critical and it helps animals now, but if were going to build a world in which animals are not raised for food, we need to have a generation behind us that believes animals are part of the inner circle. And so [applause] what im going to do is give a few simple tools for how we can create what i call what will moments. Lightbulb moments, the moment it makes sense and tools for how we can sustain that. My label moment came when i was 14 years old in my french class and we learned how to say the names of farm animals in french and the noises they make in french and we learned how to say their cuts of meat in french all in the same classroom and it created that lightbulb. I never really thought about the fact the meat i was eating was view from is a hims for bodies and i went vegetarian overnight. I was involved with social justice activism though it was easy for me to shift into a big diet vegan diet and i have come across a few things that i think even if we are not going to be fulltime professional advocates, a few simple things we can do to make our work more effective. Is to find captive audiences. Another way i think of this is to find board of people. Bored people. If you stop them on the street, they might stop for a quick second. It will go in one ear and all the other but if you find people or when they are waiting in line and can get them to watch a video, youre are going to be a lot more effective and having them engage and listen. We have seen this time and time again. We get hundreds of thousands of pledges from people. And to some of us, this will seem totally intuitive but the evidence shows its true is to focus on the animals rather than the issues related to this. When we think about the different issues that make people move toward a vegetarian diet and the Different Reasons we should eat few or no animals, the big ones that come up are the environment, animals, and the health of humans. The fact is that when you look at young people especially and the one that is the most likely to get them to actually pledge to move toward a vegan diet, it is the animals almost every single time. Only does that get that initial conversation more meaningful, it shows people who go begin for animals go begin for longer because they have a moral commitment rather than just a lifestyle commitment. A third simple tool that is is to knowt a lot how to make the right task. There is debate as to what degree we should be asking for what we want in the reality is we dont have to pick. When you make the right task, you can be honest with what you want with that longterm goal for people. But even when we use these tools, a really big issue that comes up and an issue that has frankly not gotten near enough attention and plaguing our outreach is the fact a lot of people that stop eating animals return to eating animals. A lot of them. If you had asked me five years ago, i was asked five years ago about how many people i thought he tried a vegetarian diet went back to eating animals and my guess [barking] [laughter] is that dog annex vegetarian . [laughter] it is pretty simple. I would have guessed one out of two people who tried a vegetarian diet left it and that is not ideal but i dont think that is the end of the world. Then research started coming out around that time. Unfortunately, it started to look a lot more like it was three out of four people who tried a vegetarian diet went back to eating animal products. A few of the organizations started saying we to look at this more deeply. They found in the u. S. , 2 are current vegetarians and 10 are former vegetarians in that means for everys next people to try a vegetarian diet, only one sticks with it. Five out of six people are going back on their commitment. And this isnt just a statistic. This is real. Its often said at these conferences this wonderful statistic that right now in the u. S. , 400 and fewer animals are slaughtered every year than 10 years ago because of the work this movement is doing. But you can clap first. [applause] but imagine if every one of those people who tried a vegetarian or begin diet kept up with it rather than 400 million fewer animals being slaughtered every year, it could be one billion. It could be 2 billion. We could be talking so many fewer animals every year if we just found better ways to keep them to build community, to make a vegetarian easier for people. Which is a lot of what this work already does. We have seen a lot of these tools in action actually work. On our 10 billion lives program, these people find waiting around in lines at rock concerts, College Campuses for where watching our video is more interesting than some other things they could be doing. We offer to pay them one dollar to watch this video on animal farming and when we showcase this information, their first reaction is shock and horror. They did not want to believe their diets are contributing to what they are and thats obviously that first reaction but what we found was that by holding them for those four shocks, what begins as a turns into an authentic persuasion. Wheninitially recoil and we didnt pay them, they would recoil and walk away. When we paid them, they recoiled and engaged and its easy to talk with them about these steps. Its easy to say do you want to make a pledge to move towards this . Over 250,000 people on the stores have made this pledge. [applause] we have both a group that did. Ot see the video what we found was in the group that did not see our video, some of them have become expert vegetarians. In the group that watched the video, not a Single Person became vegetarian. So when these people made these pledges, its possible to get him to keep the pledges. By sending them weekly recipes, they were 30 more likely to maintain their pledge and we it was another way we actually help them keep their pledge. And i think my favorite thing we have learned in this process of what we call sustained begin advocacy, my favorite thing that has come out of it is one theme that comes up in debates in the Animal Rights movement and i used to be deeply part of this myself. One thing that the sustained begin advocacy approach is we whether toto choose be right with our message or write with our data because the fact is its both. This is an approach that found there is a way to be completely honest that we do want to to go fully begin but we are willing to support you along the way and its a balance where we using evidencebased approaches to not just be right but be effective without having to compromise the message that we have that you can be both right and right at the same time. [laughter] [applause] and while i have been kind of obsessed with the last two years of learning have to be more right, make our programs more effective, get that 60 pledge to 61 . I think we all get locked a bit in our way sometimes and we see something we feel is working and easy for us to become ingrained in that. Best of ted talk i have seen washe last few years something called white the scout of is crucial to good judgment she said in the army, there are soldiers and their job is to do what they are told and there are scouts and their job is to learn what is true whether the general once to hear it or not. If the other team is 100 miles away and theyre going to ambush you, you dont want to know that information but you need to know that information. The scout mindset is we should take pride in being wrong because its opportunity to be more right than we were before. Its funny but its also true. Every time we are wrong, thats an opportunity for growth and i wenk one of the best things have been doing is being proud of being wrong, know when we are wrong all the time in fixing it every single time we get a chance. [applause] and im going to close on a note that one of the things i think we have learned the most with this sustained begin advocacy, the need to keep people in the long term, is one of the things we have been most about is this notion that if slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian. Its not true. That if wes idea just show people whats on the inside of these farms, they will automatically do the right thing and become vegetarian or begin and its not true and its hurting animals to believe that. Hurting animals to believe that all we have to do is show someone that information one time and walk away and hope they will do the right thing because of that was true, we would have billions of vegetarians already and we dont. If we want to bring a better world for these animals, we have to learn how to the right and right at the same time. [applause] thank you very much. You could remove the red wall of death over there. To let me know you guys loitering by the walls, there are lots of seats if yours over here want to find a seat. Bruce frederick is our next speaker. [applause] from sanctuary, he is now the executive director of the Good Food Institute and Founding Partner of new capital, organizations focused on replacing animal products with plant and culturebased alternatives and it so happens he is the coauthor with the animal activist handbook. [applause] thank you. [laughter] sweet. Bill gates a body Seattle Times this morning. He buys it every morning. [laughter] kevin looks disgusted. [laughter] thats my favorite joke. Just such an honor and such a treat to be at this anderence again this year to look out and see all of you, it is a packed room of people who care about animals and nothing could warm my heart more and its really just a pleasure and an honor to be here chatting with you about using markets and Food Technology to eliminate farm animal exploitation. [applause] and specifically, im going to talk a bit about what we are up to have a Good Food Institute. For those of you who have your magazine, there is the spread about the institute in your magazine because we are our own separate c3 organization but we were the brainchild launched by mercy for animals. [applause] have you all had the ben jerrys the good flavors yet . [applause] you got thet and ben jerrys begin flavors, how many of you bought them because you figured they would taste delicious . And you were rewarded. How many of you looked at the price and considered the price and in deciding whether you would buy . Pretty much everybody. One of the foundational observations of the Good Food Institute was that pretty much everybody when they are determining what it is they are going to eat, they take price into account and taste into account. There have been about a zillion surveys to determine why people make the food choices they do and pretty much 100 of those surveys came to the conclusion that the primary factors that people incorporate into their food decisions, the primary factors are taste and cost and then health is a little further down and then obviously if the food isnt convenient, people are not going to choose it. The Good Food Institute is focused on making alternatives delicious,roducts as convenient, and inexpensive as possible. [applause] the second foundational observation is based in about five years ago, these three companies were formed beyond , and inmpton creek possible foods. These companies was to compete with animalbased all into two factors that are the principal deciding factors for 100 of the public. Basically they are creating the products that become the defaults, that people want to buy. These companies have raised more than 400 million and are valued combined at over 2 billion and all of that money is spent on competing with animal agriculture. There are not trying to get you to go out and and by and by impossible workers, theyre trying to get people who otherwise would be consuming meat to consume these products. That ines pointed out an essay he called the future of food, he said so far, we have only employed about 8 of the world plant proteins as potential meat alternatives. Remaking meat is one section of the Food Industry that is ripe for innovation and growth. [applause] of pinnacle foods, a multibilliondollar conglomerate, they bought guard dean and when they did, he said plant based meter in the early stages of a macro trend similar to the way soy and almond milk change the mill category. This is pinnacle foods, which brings you hungry man. This is what hes talking about. 2n based milks are at about billion out of a 24. 5 billion milk industry. Thats roughly 9 . Is a little less than 500 million on an almost 200 billion Meat Industry. Can wesaying is we are going to be closing that gap and simply reaching dairy parody takes us from about a quarter of 1 up to almost 10 . That is what the graph looks like. Schmidt was speaking at the global conference about six weeks ago and was asked to reflect on technological a factor of at least tenfold. Five of these things are what of alphabethe ceo to be talking about. He was talking about 3d printers and Driverless Cars and watches that tell your doctor you are sick before you know you are sick. The first was revolutionizing the Meat Industry. [applause] meatlked about plan based for its efficiency, so chicken is the most efficient meat and it takes nine calories into a chicken to get one back out and you are essentially wasting a calories every time you eat chicken and he talked about Climate Change. Chicken, which is the least polluting, is still 27 times more co2 equivalent per calorie than legumes and 40 times more per calorie of protein. But for us, we are also concerned about animals and simply going from the current 500 million up today or a dairy would save up to parody would save more than a billion sea animals every year. Yearrch predicted last that we would get up to one third plant based meat by 2054. Thannk we can do better that. Simply getting up to what they predicted would save 3 billion land animals and more than 3 billion sea animals every year. In terms of revenue and creating a market, we go from essentially no market to a 20 billion marketto a 67 billion by 2054 according to looks research and the Good Food Institute is focused on using technology and markets tos need that transition as quickly as possible. So we are promoting plantbased meats, the chicken strips that caused bill gates, he said i a cleverst tasting meat substitute, i was tasting the future of food. First cultured meatball, the first clean meatball created by memphis meets. A clean meat, meat that is grown in a culture without the slaughter of animals. They are the first clean meat company in the u. S. A lot of people refer to cultured meat and collet lab grown. Its not really lab grown any. Ore than cornflakes everything starts in a food lab but once it is commercialized, this is what it will look like. Basically your friendly neighborhood meat brewery. [laughter] there will be big and small ones. This is what clean meat production will look like and produced in a factory like other foods. Im convinced that once consumers are given two options and one of the options does not require animal slaughter. People eat meat despite how its produced. Not because of how its produced. You give people one option that is exponentially more sustainable, causes less Greenhouse Gases, doesnt have the bacteria, the animal slaughter, and theyre literally passing laws to try and prevent people from finding out how its made and you have on the other meat produced with complete transparency, cleaner, safer, more sustainable because its less Greenhouse Gases and im convinced people will absolutely make the switch. [applause] this is why we are calling it clean meat. I dont know how well you can this but whether its organic meat or factory farmed nonorganic meat, the bacteria and antibiotics residue is basically the same and its a lot. In atlanta, the cdc thousands die every year from contaminated meat. More than 100 house and end up in the hospital and tens of millions get sick. That is why we are calling it clean meat. It is the exact same thing as the unclean meat except safer and better. Institute, we have four program areas. Our First Program area is focused on innovation. To entrepreneurs, biologists, plant biologists, and we go to the people doing the most forward thinking work and maybe they are doing Tissue Engineering going into the medical space or maybe theyre doing plant biology and drought was assistant or maybe theyre doing entrepreneurship and they will come up with the next best tshirt or something. We educate him about how much a good they can do and how well they can do for themselves by moving into the food space. We do start up support and we have a policy director, communications person, and a team of advisors who help startups in the space. We do corporate engagement, outreach to change restaurants, Grocery Stores to try and make plantbased options, get them andoted more effectively, educate the institutions. This involves outreach to any foundation or government or corporation or other entity that purports to care about global orlth or Climate Change sustainability to question how we will cede 9. 7 billion people educate them about the concept of taking the ethical decision off the table ,y making the ethical choice the default choice, which is to say by making the clean meat alternative or plantbased alternative, cheaper, tasty, and convenient. You can find out more about the org. Food institute at gfi. Encourage people to check out our resources section. Academic opportunities, academic papers, job opportunities, startup opportunities, video gallery. Lots of stuff in the resources section of the resources section and please become our friend on facebook and twitter. Do isst thing i wanted to flash back to the turn of the 19 hundred inirca new york city alone, there were 175 thousand horses producing 50,000 tons of manure every single month. 1908, the first urban planning conference was convened and didnt last two days. The entire purpose was what are we going to do about the maneuver. They were plagued by flies, andestion, carcasses, traffic accidents. The question was what are we going to do about this and they. Ouldnt gear it out they went home in desperation. 1908, henry Ford Introduces the model ford and there were more cars than forces. Convinced that through Food Technology and markets, we can using the , taking thements ethical question off the table for consumers and making the default choice, we will get to a time in the nottoodistant future when the idea of raising animals for food causes massive Global Warming and requires the killing of animals who are no different from our dogs and cats. Thank you. [applause] [no audio] give it up for all three of them. Thank you very much. [applause] i believe that concludes the first part and thank you very much. [applause] good evening. Debt and im executive director of the equal justice alliance. Im a Corporate Technology attorney working in media. Its true in honor to introduce kevin jonas. He was last at the Animal Rights conference in 2005. I first met kevin when i was defending him in a civil suit against Huntington Life Sciences in connection with the shacks huntington animal cruelty. I met him in federal prison. He was convicted under the animal enterprise protection act. How many of you are familiar with the shack seven . [applause] well that is about half of you actually saw a number of you are not familiar but you will become familiar with it. With everything he was dealing with, i still remember when kevin asked me, i was in prison talking to him about his case and he asked if anyone was showing me around. He was thinking about my comfort. Not his own. It broke my heart. As executive director of the equal justice alliance, our mission is to repeal the terrorism act. [applause] and we have been making some strides in it and the new York City Bar Association has come out repeatedly to repeal the animal enterprise terrorism act. We are now trying to work with the american Bar Association on this issue. The act has made the penalties far worse. Anyone whoon protests what others may be lowlevel criminal activity and making the protest organizers liable for that activity. Under the immediate predecessor there were six individuals convicted for just that. Organizing protests and using the internet to do so. It was a shack seven case. Six individuals and a website. They put together probably one boycottsst successful on the internet against one of the largest animal Testing Companies in the world. [applause] they brought it to the brink of bankruptcy. Even to the point where they the able to prevent relisting our repair company on the new york stock exchange. Kevin received the highest sentence. They were all in prison under a terrorism designation. Today, mentioned earlier the fbi is using the animal enterprise terrorism act on the laboratory on how they will target the rest of americans. Lauren who received the second and it appliese generously to all convicted. I was three weeks away from taking the Law School Admissions was arrestedwhen i and charged with domestic terrorism. I hadnt hurt anyone or vandalize any property. Ie indictment didnt allege had committed any independent crime, only that i conspired to publish a website that advocated and reported on protest activity against a notorious animal. Esting live in new jersey so you see they are imprisoning prospective law students know. And that is not the only case there. Kevin jonas despite all this has come out and recreated himself and his life. And has been 11 years since he was last here. We are happy to have him back. [applause] kevin jonas is the Vice President of the freedom project , a National Research Animal Rescue and advocacy organization. Over the last three years, passing legislation in four states that mandates the post extremity adoption of animals. He was a president of animal cruelty and bankrupted the world the Biggest Research organization, earning him a reduction. Please welcome kevin jonas. [applause] thank you. Its good to be back. 15 years ago, my friend and hero alex took a chance on me as a young activist who was leading a very Aggressive Campaign and gave me a prime speaking spot at this very conference and he gave me the responsibility of speaking about those people who engage in civil disobedience to save lives. I spoke for 10 minutes and tried my best to that had thert courage to do what i dont. Literally spoke about the beauty of their legality, not about violence or anger. But the incredible sensitivity, the courage, the boundless heart it takes to be the kind of person that can get inside a fort knox Laboratory Facility and pick up a trembling dog covered in her own filth from a stainless steel cage and spirit her away into the night running through those cold, damp fields her breath on your neck. Description has been cited against me and just about everyone of our 27 lawsuits and our appeal. [applause] in front of friends and colleagues and peers with honesty and conviction and speak. Ruth without being scared lauren and i and a few other people ran the stop huntington Animal Cruelty Campaign and this campaign got us in trouble. It got as arrested, got me deported from england. It got us federal charges and i got a sixyear prison sentence of which i did for years, nine months, and 12 days. That is not what i came to speak to you about tonight. I never speak about it but its not because im ashamed of it. Its not because im traumatized by it. There is one very simple reason i dont talk about it. Its a distraction and its meant to scare all of you. I already lost five years of my prosecutionrrupt and i will not waste anymore time on it by trying to impress or entertain or enthrall you with stories of prison intrigue ,nd survival for that chapter that is mine. Alone. I survived it with the help of my family, my friends. We try to do so with humility. [barking] i dont offer it up for public consumption because frankly, my life is not a reality show and why should i talk about it . Its a dark, depressing, dangerous. It pales in comparison to the real reason, the real issues, the real horrors that bring everyone of us here tonight. To pretendng to try or imagine that simply because we sat in a prison cubicle for a few years that therefore we somehow know what it is like to be a victim in a factory for more laboratory or cement tank at sea world. I dont. None of us do. What these animals indoor are beyond my worst nightmares. And i know i need not usher forth vivid description of torture, despair, despondency, stress, and literal heartbreak to paint that picture. You are ready got enough of that today im sure and is really the reason we are all here. So five years ago when i got out of prison and i was on probation , i started my own journey of recovery again but i did so with my beagle junior. He had just been rescued from an Animal Testing Laboratory and ironically enough, he spent four years and seven months at the laboratory prison. He came to me as a scared, confused and frightened and fragile little survivor of real body for the marks. His scars where incisions were made, notches on his floppy ears. A psyche that learned and outstretched human hand means one thing and one thing only, yet for junior, i watched as that first night, he cautiously jumped into our bed for the first time. Thatcided bravely enough he was going to try again with our species. He snuggled up to me that night and every night since and through junior, i learned what survival looks like. I learned what it means to be resilient. I have been licking my own , havingostly to my ego a nice little pity party but reflection of juniors survival, i regain that sense of perspective and i found my inspiration again. If junior wasnt going to be defeated i animal testing, why would i . So in 2012 with junior at my side, i found my voice and purpose and i joined the team that saved his life, the beagle freedom project. [applause] we are a Small Charity with big ambitions. It is literally 10 of us. Our mandate is to rescue any and all animals from laboratories anywhere in the world and to of survivaltories to remind the public that these animals are no different than the ones we share our homes with. They are not abstract little petri dishes or test tubes. There just like our own. For the four years i have worked with this organization, we have saved 650 lives from laboratories. [applause] , beagles. Namesake beagles are the breed of choice for testing precisely because of the reason they make great family companions, they are. Ocile, people pleasing we had taken cats, rabbits, mice, pigs, goats, ponies, even goldfish. Each little survivor a living reminder and each little precious pot that hits the pavement in any given community, that motivating force to go cruelty free and to go begin begin vegan. These survivors have the power to do more with the simple wag of their tail then i can do with my best words. Across 36 states and eight countries, we have 600 families with these animals acting as public ambassadors to talk, preach, testify about their personal and real experience with animal testing because everybody wants to know their stories, everybody once to see the tattoos. With that, we are able to do educational campaigns. Last year, our 10 Person Charity was awarded with a prize for Public Awareness against animal testing. It was the first time in history that public records requests have ever been crowd sourced. Request records on 1000 individual animals still stuck in laboratories. [applause] the response was phenomenal. Not just media saturation but a plethora of lawsuits pulled forward from the records we were getting. Manyacross the country, reasons simply if they are afraid we would try to put them into a restraint sling. Records, thishese connection is building a new movement with new activists. Activists that we are taking to state capitals and every part of the country. Its a piece of legislation that at the very least mandates all healthy dogs and cats if they survive these pain his experiments must be offered up to public adoption through a rescue organization. Of course, every lab and proanimal Testing Group has lobbied against it. Ive got a record. Sadly, they still use that line when they test testified before the senate. Good for us they are losing. Are they all has been passed in california in my host state and imecticut and next week, flying to new york because we are sending this bill to the governors desk for his signature. [applause] literally for these animals, new chances on a life, new opportunities and andums to engage the public legislators about issues they can get on board with. We keep ourselves busy. The cruelty cutter mobiletion, the first app in the world that you can scan any product in the world and it will instantly tell you if that product is tested on animals or not. You can socially share. [applause] share yourially protest. Cutter andd cruelty its available for free on itunes and android. A bigeek, we are not group 10 people, a Little Charity but we saved and budgeted and this year, we are going to give away a quarter of a Million Dollars to real scientists and researchers pioneering new methods and new methodologies and processes to replace the dangerous, ineffective, antiquated animal testing. [applause] of is alleally proud of this happened while i was still under the thumb of the federal government on probation. I just got off last year. I am 100 free now. Like my junior, i am not going to be defeated or be made permanently afraid because of my past. When i stood before you and give you a speech free of fear without regard to consequences, i would do it again tonight because i know what those consequences are and i survived them and so can you. Nobody should be afraid. [applause] trust me, this is not about me bragging, not about bravado. Most people who know me know that i am not special, i do not express some cunning reserve of bravery. Im definitely not be smart smartest or strongest person in this room. , i have all of you english also when i had to watch my mother cry because i am in trouble and going to jail. I am not special. Chargei cant lead the on a campaign, if i can stare down the bail of a federal prison sentence and come out the other side with my friend lauren and we can still stand at a podium and speak loudly and proudly, i know everybody in this room can as well. [applause] cannotage is this we let the fear of unknown consequences become our own prison of inactivity. I say this a lot and it has become my mo. This is a social justice movement. What we are advocating for is cultural,st change in social, culinary, financial, political history. There are going to be consequences. A price will have to be made. Its no different for us than it was for those movements became before us that demanded civil rights, voting rights, equal pay. The right to simply exist. Those activists went to geo, they got sued, they got called names. Some of them were beaten, some of them were killed. It is literally not our lives or liberation on the line which is why we think we can have our cake and eat it too, that we can swayed our guilt by going to a vegan breed up and liking something on facebook. Not good enough. [applause] not good enough. Im not trying to sensationalize , jail isetishize it not fun. Dont go. Avoid these things if at all bravele but if you are and audacious and you push the boundaries and you find yourself in trouble, you trust me, you can survive it because it is literally trivial in comparison to what were advocating against. , when ingrid and peter sent an undercover huntingtonr into life scientists, there was a woman there who joined this investigation. She was designing and next are met where they would cut off the legs of 37 beagles. 10 years ago, lauren and i were standing trial trying to close down the laboratory and she moved on to using cats in grisly experiments. Employed, shell released the third edition of the handbook and toxicology in which she identified her acceptable and preferable methods of killing her laboratory victims Carbon Monoxide poisoning, Carbon Dioxide poisoning, cervical and,cation, extinguish where they believed them to death. Bleed them to death. Decapitation, of course. Bearing silent witness is no longer an option. Stopping abuse like this will not happen simply because you write my charity a check or give apollo a check or bruce a check. We cannot pay others to do the activism for us. [applause] voice, youre has a have a heart, you have hands. You have the truth on your site and you need to use them and set that bar high. Dont settle and dont be satisfied because for me, there such thing as happy cement tank will ever be good enough for anywhere whale. [applause] simply by being here tonight, simply by being here tonight, by being vegan, by embracing animal aghts ethic, we are all in state of resistance and the stakes are high and its not just the billions of lives on the line, its also our humanity , also this little thing about our very existence on this planet that require constant, innovativedacious, and compassionate ideas and actions from everybody here. So i caution you and i urge you i know im running low on time but ive been gone 10 years. [applause] tonight andt here monday and you go back to where you came from, or member these speeches, what you learned, but more importantly, you remember how you feel and you hold it close to your heart, that righteous indignation and that anger because you are going to need it. A lot of you know this but our activism does not play out like it does in the movies. In slow motion on the picket line, there will be no beautiful musical score providing emotional context. When you were up all night fighting that group to shut down some atrocious facility, when you are on a picket line holding that bullhorn, you remember these feelings because it will be very different. It is going to it is going to be you, alone. That tickle of fear. But that is how we win. We rise to the occasion. Toneed to speak at our truth power without respect or regard for the consequences. Thank you or having me here. [applause] host thank you very kevin. Now, to introduce the final speaker of the night, bruce. So, our next speaker recently received the second peter up price for strategies singer prize. The first to receive it was peter himself. [laughter] ingrid,nd one was [ingrid was absolutely the right person to receive this award because her focus has always years,or the past 40 constantly and resolutely been on reducing the suffering of animals and in that cause she has been truly a great strategist. I first metued, ingrid when i spent some time in washington, d. C. , in 1979 at eight vegetarian thanksgiving dinner. People for the ethical treatment of animals did not yet exist but she and alex told me they had plans to start and organization on ideasd be based similar to those i presented in y book animal liberation. Little did i imagine this plan would be the start of the largest Animal Rights organization in the world. Would make thousands of people aware that animals were not ours to wear, use for entertainment, or abuse in any other ways and it would Animal Protection in the United States and other areas as well as to ingrids attention has always been on the urgency of stopping the vast amount of suffering we inflict on animals. Se welcome me in accepting welcoming the best friend in a their friends could conceive of in this world. Ingrid. [applause]. Thank you. He is so longwinded. Thank you very much, bruce. You all for being here. It is absolutely wonderful to see such a pact room. Tremendous. I have to make it snappy so lets get on with it. Victory first. Movement year ago, our has won many fantastic victories and the only reason we have is because people care and they work on them. Ringling brothers took all of the elephants off the road. Breeding all of the orc us. D stoppedrl breeding all of the orcas. The head grow world for market collapsed. Exotics,ossession of banning hideous chemical tests on animals. Michael, the owner of the tiger caught lives of pi, whipping a tiger up to 19 times is now facing charges of animal cruelty in canada. And his new is closing down. Zoo is closing down. In other news, the that his been there for 190 years just closed and this weekend, the mad heor of came out and said is opposed to the running of the bulls. [applause] after showing retail footage of sheep being punched in the face, suppliers of stores like balenciaga and stores like patagonia suspended all purchases of wool. Convinced poultry farms, great and barrel, to promote synthetic down saving millions of ducks and geese and. And world market and pier 1 imports no longer sell any down. Took on watchable of being clubbed to death for leather and proofed it was being sold in this country, some sold is some stores agreed not to buy any leather at all anymore. [applause] persuaded 130 International Banks and corporations to stop savingurl glue traps, millions of rats and mice, who in my opinion are the dearest Little Angels in the world. Tesla now offers its models x a Synthetic Leather and ferrari robbery now offers Synthetic Leather as in upgrade for its new convertible. To drop its requirement for leather. When my car imploded, which was and active terrorism, i bought an allvegan smart car. There does. It cost about 13,000400 it is a mercedes. Serves anyone tells you the president of peta drives a mercy 80s, they are telling you the truth. Thatat reminds people animals count and changes the entire marketplace. Are we happy about these victories . Applause] then consider this chilling thought, if we only spend our time into our money fighting factory farming to the exclusion of all else, none of the victories i have mentioned would have happened. Yet doth this conference and hear peopleu will asking us to only concentrate on factory farming work. Great apes would not be coming out of the laborde tories now if jane goodall had not spent her years out in the forest convincing us that great apes other human beings with another name, if she had spent her entire career handing out vegan leaflets. She taught us chimpanzees share more dna with us than anthony board and. Anthonyny board game bourdain. Handing out vegetarian leaflets. I do it myself. I encourage other people to do so. But there also is other important work to be done. Wonderfultalk about animalshat define who are. But i have to talk instead about this in city us only work on factory farming issues. We are a vegan food movement. Of course we are. But we are much more than that. We are in Animal Rights movement. [cheers and applause] wait untilgoing to everybody eats veggie burgers before we help other animals. That is like in the 1960s when white people were told they should not go down to the south to register black voters until all white people were taking care of or when we are told, you should not work on Animal Rights until all human rights are resolved. That is rubbish. Movement goalhts is to get people to recognize that just as animals are not hamburgers, they are also not handbags. They are not test tubes with whiskers. They are not cheap burglar alarms. They are not props for photo ops. They are not tests. They are individuals and we must attacked all of them. Even the animals we are not that familiar with. Like that. [laughter] if we had only worked on factory farming, pigs would still be slammed into walls and car crash tests. There would be no fake snake. Note leather. No vegan flees. No alternatives to killing a mouse to see if you are pregnant. Why . Because our movement major those things changed. Because we are against thatesism combo we know means we are against cruelty to cows, pigs, chickens. Yes, but we are also against cruelty to dogs and cats and rabbits and monkeys and rats and the rest of them. Cheers and applause] now, the reason i am talking about that is that some people who work on factory farm issues, and they are good people in and i love many of them and they do great work, they are using these things called evaluation groups to promote this idea that it is only effective to do factory farming work and to me that is like republican redistricting. It is a lot of hooey. They say the suffering is a question of math. I love map and their questions do not add up. They say since a chicken lives for about 42 years, instead of saving one dog who is suffering for one year, you should save nine chickens and forget the dog. Well imagine that dodd because i work with dogs all the time. I cant. Imagine him chained in a patch of his on waste for one year. These are real dogs we have helped, shivering through the night. Barking] me. Youre with suffering without shame. Isa bitten rob by the flies drawn to his waist. Toge does not allow him sleep. These are real dogs. Like this. Look at his collar. Neck. Into his is it the same as nine chickens on a factory farm for 42 days . Animals are not numbers. There individuals. Reduces animals to numbers. We do not. Our movement is against all of the ugly things done to any animal. Animal rights people do not dog breeders,ne organic will, or sustainable fishing. We do not want to sustain cruelty, we want to end it it. [applause] i love that cartoon. One issue does not a movement make. Strong, Diverse Movement reaches into all of the dark corners of abuse and full sleeve victims out. We are changing the world not only so children can eat veggie hot dogs but said they do not grow up thinking their parents take them to the circus so it must be acceptable to dominate animals. That is why we have closed down five roadside zoos and circuses in the last year and with your help we will close them all down the eventually. Say the only thing that counts is saving the most lives. But all social Justice Movements have a far larger goal. We want to stop people from denying basic rights to others simply because they are others. And take gateway issues. The lionaid says so was shot by a dental tourist and think they only care about that, they visit our website and bingo, they learn about all of the other issues and they would have never sought them out because they were not interested. It happens all the time. It is true. Someone heard about an abandoned dog, but in plastic, left on the road. Reward. Ered a there was a demonstration outside the courthouse. People who cared only about the dogs came to the demo, got the story. Animal rights and here is tyrone matthew. I am hugely a big fan. A little bit of what he says about dogs in hot cars. Video] bless his heart. He is apologizing that he had to get out of the car. Visited theike dogs website to see that video. While they were there, they saw every other video we have on the website. Things they had never set out to sea. The man who did this commercial because he loves dogs, went vegan after he did it. [cheers and applause] he opened a popup in asia. A shop where people saw this. [begin video] this video went viral. Over 15 Million People watched an online. If you only worked on factory farming, and tough luck for all of the reptiles who were killed by having something shoved down their throat and their whole bodies filled with water. This is silly. You know the thing, if you can save only one which would you save, the man or the dog . The cartoon is really wonderful. He said, well it depends. Osama bin laden and the dog lassie . Othing is that cut and dried should we stop working to save whose gig at the fair we just got canceled this fair . Should we let lolita rocked in her cement tank . It has enormous impact for them, but a lot of impact for animals going into the future and is a milestone for all animals. System in new york. A monkey named clayton. This is not clayton, a different monkey but the same thing. The assistant went away. A years later he returned to the lab and there was clayton and it suddenly struck this man that in all the years he had been gone, clayton had sat in the same spot. He wrote this, clayton had a pink face. Dark eyes. Sandy for an date to inch titanium rod screwed into the top of his skull. Clayton was born in a breeding center. He grew up in a metal box and spent his adolescence with a hole in his head and a coil through his eye. Or 15 years of life, clayton suffered multiple surgeries and infections into endless hours of restraint in a plastic chair. He said, i moved across the country, became a journalist, married, went on vacations. At four clayton, nothing ever changed. Every day or two he was carted held in placeand by a screw the protruded from his skull. Lets not ignore people like clayton, because they are people and they need is to liberate them. [applause] are deceptive. Somebody said, people may go to the zoo once again or to the zoo three or four times in their lives, but every time someone chooses to eat vegan, they are saving 200 lives a gear. It is not about how many times people go to the circus or zoo. It is about the animals who are stuck in the circus or zoo year after year, going insane, turning in circles, trying to cope. Whether we go or not. Our job is only to get them out. Say, 1000aluators plus 2. 5 dogs or cats saving 11,000 food animals. So nor the dogs and cats. These cows disagree. [laughter] i will grant you it is more effect if to space and neuter the end replacement. For example, the stud needs a home right now. So if you have got one, let me know. Not eight crate but a real home or house. This did not take me anytime to say and im still a vegan. On peters fleet of mobile clinics, one tiny area, we have sterilized 130,000 dogs and cats. Just imagine if only half of those animals and it was a small had a, and only have litter and that was it. No more offspring. We have saved over 13 million lives from being born with realre to go and that is a statistics. [applause] theoretically, we can save some 200 animals the year if we do not eat them but really it is not as if the chicken industry cause of pork and beef and says, hey guys just got another vegan. Cut production by 200 animals. But we definitely save that hundred 30,000 can prevent that enormous 3 million lives from being born. And if you think that the most vital thing is to save the lives of animals used for food, you have to support the campaign to end the use of animals for clothing because all of those become cause bodies food. The Food Industry depends upon willie sweater sales, leather bolster profits. And every time we strike a blow against the skin industry, the meat into the dairy industry takes a massive hit. [applause] the alligators and the astra jews that are made into product and and amaze bags the skins thatand the mes used to make into her bags as wonderful as that is, it is not the only thing. It has been a long, hard road. In 1980, unless you took your own bottle to a coop in berkeley, you can only buy one shampoo that was not tested on animals. To find. Was hard imported and expensive. Wasas not an issue then, it a status symbol. There was no cgi to replace wild animals in movies and no one questioned scientists. Replacements for everything, from begin ballet slippers to training modules that bleed. Millions ofd animals from experiments and closed labs like this one. Into we bought all the animals out. Bought all of the animals out. Over 2000 companies no longer poor products into animals eyes into down into their stomachs. So be told to ignore the suffering of animals in labs makes me angry. Finally, some people are embarrassed by controversial campaigns and i asked them to look back. People say the lunch counter protests were impolite and they set civil rights programs back. Here we are together fighting aids tests on animals long ago. Act up was fantastic. They stopped traffic. They dressed outrageously to say it is what is inside that counts. They empowered people to be bold. Their motto was never be silent. Which is our motto now. Their motto was silence is death which should be our motto now. Clip] video [indiscernible] clip] deo we stop those experiments on cats because we make people uncomfortable. I bless direct action everywhere and groups like that for what they do. [applause] because all they do is tell people the honest to god truth. If we never challenge people, if we just tell them what they already know, then will we ever rights . We need to raise the bar so our movement is seen in turn. Allowing people to remain in their comfort zones allows us to remain in hours. A social movement is not about comfort, it is about struggle and that is what we have to do. Struggle for Animal Rights. We are all here with far more the end we need. I am not a big consumer. You can see i am not a fashionable dresser. A i buy shoes or i go to dinner or movie or on vacation, i charge myself in animal tax. It is easy, it feels good, it does good, and i recommended. It is as easy as pie. Any of us couldve been born a or childa glue trap, in a slum, or a dog. One of those we saw there. Were lucky we were not. So catch this, i just learned that anyone that makes 34,000 a year is among the richest 1 . Do, given theo worlds population and poverty is make 34,000 dollars and you are in the worlds richest 1 . We buy a few lattes, lets give the cost of another latte to the animals. For any campaign we care about. Car, addt gas in your one dollar to the animals. If you inherit money, get taxes back, arrays, or a bonus, consider paying the animal tax. You will still be mighty rich. I am norize, fundraiser. They kicked me out of the fundraising meetings. I just spend it. Summarize, please lets not hug those who still keep or cause and tiny cages but dont read them now. Keep orcas in tiny cages but dont read breed them now. What if that man in philadelphia stopped raping those women but still kept them in cages . Would he be ok then . Lets bust the myth that the sustainable anything, lets say going vegan means wearing vegan. Not giving to help charities that test on animals. Not swimming with dolphins. Animalng to all objective occasion. Showing the videos to everyone. Never shutting up about how these animals are. Index of the working to stop the abuse of all animals. Backyards,rcuses, pet shops, hit in the face with clippers comiccon and glue traps, hunted, trapped, in torn about. Lets be loud, lets be strong, lets be persuasive, lets be determined, lets be unstoppable and lets be uncomfortable. Next year, more victories. Because Animal Rights happen if hard. And we try so please do everything you can possibly think of to do all the time. Thank you very, very much. [cheers and applause] carla powell talks about islam and sharing her own experience of taking of getting to know a muslim cleric and his family. She rode, if the oceans were inc. Ink. The oceans were you write about that from your own personal standpoint in the book. I think it is relevant to perhaps yeah. I think the something is you are and i are in a sense german business in a sense a. Usiness driven business the extremists have figured out a way to insert themselves into the headlines and the vast majority of the rest of the worlds 1. 6 million muslims happened. Its depressing. But the old saying, if it believes, it leads. Its true for all groups. But sadly, there are not too many counter narratives that make it into the News Headlines about islam. There was a recent study that asked people about what the face of various religions was. Islam is so diffused. Theres no pope. Theres no mainstream clergy in sunni islam. Catholics some of catholicism was the pope. Unfortunately, among americans, the face of islam was alba duddy, the head of isis. Announcer he can see the entire conversation tonight at 9 00 eastern here on cspan. Announcer at cspan. Org, you can watch our Public Affairs and political programming any time at your convenience on your laptop or mobile device. Go to our home page and click on video search bar. You can type in the name of a speaker, sponsor radel or even an event topic. Click on the program you would like to watch or refine your search with their many search tools. 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