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two days. >> i feel so guilty because i did not do that. >> he did not care. >> john fugelsang, nothing from you hereto, not even a phone call. mark lamont hill, professor at columbia university. >> i really did send flowers. >> you sent nothing, you lie. this is what i got from my colleagues, nothing. >> he came in thinking you'd be here. >> oh, blah, blah, blah. i'm not going to talk to you for the entire morning. kidding. let's get right to our "starting point" this morning. we have a major development to talk about that could complicate george zimmerman's case and could get his attorney into trouble. mark o'mara will let the judge know while he was originally pleading poverty in order to get george zimmerman out on bail and a relatively low bail it turns out his client has raised more than $200,000, that is exactly how much he's raised, $204,000 is exactly what he's raised in donations from a now defunct website he helped set up to pay his legal expenses, a major revelation because you'll remember at zimmerman's bond hearing the prosecution asked the bail to be set at $1 million. the judge said no, $150,000, because he'd been told zimmerman's family was pretty much broke. last night his attorney told anderson cooper he was surprised to hear about this account. here's what he said. >> i was talking to george after i was trying to shut down his full internet presence because of some impersonators and other problems with twitter and facebook. he asked me what to do with his paypal accounts and i asked him what he was talking about. he said those are the accounts from the money with the website he had and there was about $204,000 that had come in to date. >> chris francis guney is a reporter for reuters, done digging into zimmerman's past. nice to have you with us. we appreciate it. start with the money first it's interesting if you look back to the original comments that mark o'mara made before the court he actually hedged a lot on the money. i want to play you a clip of what he said about the financial situation of his client. listen. >> as far as his financial abilities, unfortunately this is a family of very short means. you've heard mom and dad testify that they are willing to assist by securing their house, whatever we can accomplish we certainly will. i will tell you that i truly don't know the specifics of some fund that's out there that's not being administered by me. i don't know what the amount is. >> so you know, that's sort of an i'm not really given the facts as they've been presented to me. it looks like -- there's a court hearing today. how do you think this plays a role into what happens next? >> it will be interesting to see what judge lester thinks of this, but it's really hard to tell. this is brand new information. >> ben crump of course is the trayvon martin family attorney and here's what he had to say about all this. listen. >> he knew, whether he communicated that to his attorney, whether his toesh solicsli attorney solicited that information or not, he knew the crux of the matter, he like his apology was insincere in his silence as well as what he said to the court. >> as a person who spent a lot of time digging into the who is george zimmerman, he's saying he's an insincere guy who continues to lie in a nutshell and of course that's the attorney for the other side. how would you describe george zimmerman? >> well in terms of the money in the website, i really don't know. i've got no information about that. as you'll recall in the bond hearing last week, several members of zimmerman's family, his wife, his mother and his father all testified that they didn't know how much was raised by the website. this was a question the prosecutors repeatedly asked of the family members, they said that website was controlled by robert zimmerman jr., george's brother, but what i learned in my reporting over the last couple weeks were a few interesting, new details about zimmerman. he got a gun, he got firearms training and got a concealed permit and got a gun in december 2009 after his wife had been menaced by a pitbull named big boy. he grew up in a mixed race household where two young african-american girls who were babysat by his maternal grandmother who lived in his house for about six years they were dropped off early in the morning before school, they ate meals with the zimmerman kids, went back and forth to school with the zimmerman kids h dinner and picked up by their mom and lastly, there were a series of break-ins and suspected break-ins in the neighborhood in the months leading up to the shooting in which young african-american were suspected or charged in the burglaries. >> one other thing i found surprising, zimmerman had an african-american business partner for several years and allstate franchise. what is surprising to so many of us is the narrative we have come to hear repeatedly is zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin or possibly at the very most was a racist who hunted down a black man and shot him. some of the details are at the very least coming as a surprise to us. >> to me it seems a part of the public narrative there's something exculpatory about having black friends and working with black people. >> some of my best friends are black. >> that's what i keep hearing. >> i don't think it's necessarily exculpatory. it adds more pieces to a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces here. >> what's his personality like,age anry person? he had some scrapes with the law, nonviolent but was he an angry, young man? >> i just want to answer your question first, when he was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who pre-judged trayvon martin because he was black. in light of those charges information about his youth and his history i think is relevant to the discussion here. >> no question. absolutely. i agree. >> exactly right, adding pieces to a puzzle that seemingly for many people had a conclusion already in place. >> i think, will, to your point, you cannot, there are black people who racially profile black people. >> that's right. >> having relatives who are black does not mean that you cannot be a racist. we should make that clear from the get-go. i'm not saying george zimmerman is. i have no idea but there is also an error in pointing out if you have a black friend you're not a racist. >> to the conclusion i haven't made, we now have new information based on good reporting that rebuts some conclusions that were floating around out there. >> i don't know it rebuts. debris you're bringing more information that helps you paint a picture of a person that none of us really knows personally. go back to the prior acts in scrapes with the law, were they violent, was it a person considered, was he considered to be a loose cannon or was it sort of youth and just getting into scrapes? >> like so many aspects of this case and pictures of zimmerman, it really depends on how you look at it. he was charged with resisting an officer with battery, after he either shoved or pushed an undercover alcohol control agent, was attempting to arrest one of his underaged friends. his family members testified in the bond hearing that he didn't know that the undercover agent was actually a cop and thought he was, you know, just a regular citizen. restraining order was taken out against him for domestic violence by his former fiance, veronica zuazu, hope i'm pronouncing that right and we're learning the bond hearing from his family at least they testified that she had been upset he was going out that night, jumped on him, scratched his face, drew blood, and that he picked her up and put her back on the bed. i don't know. i haven't seen all the facts in that case but that's what they said. >> he was made to undergo anger management counseling after the battery. >> that's correct, part of a pretrial diversion program. >> it will be interesting today as we head to court. >> you talk about the bond hearing the reason that's important, apparently he withheld information is because the judge to remand his bond hearing and bring him back in custody. >> we started that way. if he's worth almost a quarter million dollars -- >> it would have impacted. >> it potentially could have the impact of the bond. chris, thank you for joining us this morning, from reuters, filling in little pieces at a time. christine romans, good morning. >> republican leaders in the house are drafting the contempt of congress citation against attorney general eric holder, they claim he and the justice department obstructed their investigation into the fast and forrious gun tracking operation, that atf plan allowed illegal gun purchases in order to track weapons to mexican drug cartel leaders. hundreds of guns vanished, including one used in the killing of a law enforcement officer. former john edwards' aide andrew young on the stand for the fourth consecutive day. he admitted to using nearly $1 million in campaign buimoney to build his dream house in north carolina and not to cover up an affair edwards was having with rielle hunter. 9,000 u.s. marines are shipping out of japan. residents there wanted them out, angry over a string of criminal acts, outrage first sparked back in 1995 when three marines raped a 12-year-old japanese girl. half the marines will now go to guam, others transferred with hawaii and australia. ugliness from boston bruins after the team was eliminated from the nhl playoffs. the clincher scored by joel ward of the washington capitols, he was born in toronto to parents from migrated from barbados. some included racist tweets, the n word scores away, we lost to a hockey playing n word. he says he's not letting a few hateful twitter posts ruin the biggest goal of his career. the greatest player in nba history is now the proud owner of the worst team of all-time. the charlotte bob cats ended with a loss to the new york knicks, they finished the shortened season with the worst percentage in nba history. the bob cats won seven games. they lost 59. ford announced a 45% drop in profit during the first three months of the year mostly from losses in europe following the slowdown there in flat sales. check on the markets. u.s. stock futures trading slightly higher, almost basically unchanged right now. more uncertainty over global growth driving volatility in markets this year. last night standard and poors downgraded the credit rating of spain's government. next hour at 8:30 a.m. eastern the gdp report really important for investors, stay tuned for that. they're probably not showing up to work this morning, a group of co-workers hitting it big in the lottery. 48 city transit workers in philly hit a $172 million powerball jackpot. winning septa employees ranged from janitors to accountants and managers. the winning has created the buzz. >> about 1:00 this afternoon this buzz went through this 20-story office building. did you hear? did you hear? is it a rumor? and then people started fessing up. >> everybody's like excited. everybody's like, they can't believe it. you know, it hit right on the 11th floor. >> the winner is remaining anonymous and my wager is most, if not all do go back to work they want to remain anonymous and it's 48 people sharing $172 million, i'm not sure where the taxes come out there. >> still a lot of money. >> absolutely. >> i will call in from home, hey! one lotto last night so you might want to get someone to fill in for me. >> see you at work tomorrow i know when i win the lotto. >> christine, thank you. even the most jaded new yorker might want to look up at the sky today, the space shuttle "enterprise" will make its final trip hitching a ride on a 747 headed to its new home on the deck of the intrepid sea, air and space museum. it will take off from dulles 9:30 eastern time. athena jones is right there, has the best seat in the house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as you can see the shuttle already mounted on top of that jumbo jet behind me. we just got an update from nasa, they've done a weather briefing and they are a go. sometime after 9:30 that flight will take off, head out to new york. the "enterprise" was the first shuttle but never flew in space. it was used for various approach and landing tests on the ground over the course of two years or so and it was rolled out back in 1976. also the enterprise had been originally meant to be called the "constitution" in honor of the country's biicentennial campaign but a write-in by "star trek" fans got them to change the name to "enterprise." you'll get a great view, folks down here in d.c. got to see that shuttle fly by all the monuments here. it will go up to new york, fly past the statue of liberty, fly up the hudson river, past the "intrepid" its future home and circle around and land over at jfk. there will be a private ceremony there, over the next few weeks they'll de-mate that 150,000-pound shuttle from the 747, put it on a barge and take that over to the "intrepid" and put it on a deck and build a huge pavilion around it should open sometime in mid-july, so definitely a lot of cool views people are going to get on the streets of manhattan. seems like pretty much anywhere you go you'll see it but it sounds like the west side will be among the best used. >> the coolest museums, i bring my kids all the time, they have a concord and one of the things that goes under the water, what do you call it? >> submarine. >> i'm still recovering from my cold, athena, you can fully understand. i was in dulles and it's really neat. >> i'm tell my wife to tell my 4-year-old the shuttle is going to fly up the hudson. >> you'll get to see it take off which is cooler. athena jones thanks, appreciate it. still ahead on "starting point," tuscaloosa rising, a year after it was ravaged by a deadly tornado and how they're remembering the victims of the storm. we're live up next. the secret service investigation is expanding, surprise, surprise, after a report that agents took strippers to a back room in a club called lips in el salvador. i'm stunned. the reporter breaking news on the story will join us, up next. if you're heading out to work check out the rest of the show on our live blog on our website, cnn.com/startingpoint. or chat with us on twitte twitter @starting ptcnn o or @soledadobrien. listen to mark's list "summertime." not in this economy. we also have zero free time, and my dad moving in. so we went to fidelity. we looked at our family's goals and some ways to help us get there. they helped me fix my economy, the one in my house. now they're managing my investments for me. and with fidelity, getting back on track was easier than i thought. call or come in today to take control of your personal economy. get one-on-one help from america's retirement leader. 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[ male announcer ] nature valley sweet & salty nut bars. ♪ [ camera clicks ] ♪ it's hard to resist the craveable nature of a nature valley sweet & salty nut bar. hey, shut up. keep it down. >> there's nothing i can do, all right? >> have you heard of a sitter? >> it's an endangered species. what am i supposed to do? >> i'll make you an endangered species. >> good comeback, potsie. everybody shut up. he receded into my beard, we can all watch the movie. shut up. >> our "get real" this morning, we have a serious problem here on "starting point" that's popped up over the last couple weeks and i feel it's time to address it. trying to address it. i point it out all the time, never gone away. what do you believe about will cain's beard? my question is what's with the beard? what's going on? ♪ >> check out that beard. >> we need to talk about the beard but this is not the right time but we will get to it. >> look at that. >> oh, lord. >> smile, will. >> here's my question for you, will. because that beard has sort of looked scruffy for 13 days. you go home and trim this every day? your wife went out of town -- >> first of all took me 15 seconds into the "family guy" clip, why are we watching, oh, i get it. >> i told you we were going to talk about it. >> while you were gone, clean shaven. >> why is it back? >> it's not back. >> it's pretty back. >> first i want to give props, he's taken a lot of slings and arrow. lot of people don't like the fact a conservative guy from texas is trying to be an orthodox rabbi. i admire you, will. >> he's trying to be a fellow texan willie nelson. >> i'm just being me, soledad, just being me. >> look, or maybe he's trying to be chuck norris is a fellow texan as well. >> i've spent time in willie nelson's trailer. you're not trying to be willie nelson. >> maybe zach zelafenakas. >> bradley cooper. i've said it several times. >> that is funny for several reasons. >> say why, john. >> i believe we end this segment with, will, get real. he picked the wrong granny, an elderly woman introduces a thief to her walker. plus secret service agents allegedly saying this happens all the time, talking about strippers and escorts, in honor of will since we're dedicating the entire segment to him -- >> no zz top? >> no, zach crows "hard to handle." zigging when we're zagging. >> i like this will. >> you like the black crows? >> i like this new will. the utterly shocking sensation of being on a business trip where everything goes right. backed up by a 100% satisfaction guarantee. feel the advantage. feel the hamptonality. 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[ female announcer ] get the travelocity guarantee anywhere when you book with our new app. you'll never roam alone. welcome back to "starting point." christine has a look at the headlines. good morning. >> good morning. osama bin laden's three widows and two daughters are out of pakistan this morning, they were deported to saudi arabia, officials say. they have under house arrest for being in that country illegally. federal judge blocked a request to release the bin laden death photos. conservative legal group asked the pentagon to comply with a freedom of information request to see the pictures. police in north carolina releasing the last known photo of kelly bordeaux. they say the outfit is the same one she wore the night she vanished. she was a 23-year-old combat medic, hasn't been seen since she left a fayetteville bar in the early morning hours april 14th. a passenger on a delta flight, fears might have monkey pox. passengers were quarantined for three hours yesterday in chicago. minnesota woman returning from uganda triggered the health scare but doctors checked her out, turns out it was just bed bug bites. a new study is blowing a big hole in conventional wisdom linking cell phone use to cancer. british scientists says there's no evidence talking on the phone will have any ill effects on your health, goes for rumors about cancer, brain tumors, infertility. researchers looked at the major studies and found no definite links, but scientists say new studies are needed. a new study says berries may boost your brain power. researchers claim women who ate a half cup of blueberries a week and one cup of strawberries were slik likely to have a two and a half year of advantage in terms of when they showed memory decline. flavenoids may be key to slowing cognitive design and berries are chock foul -full of them. 83-year-old zita staples is not a woman you want to mess with. she was walking her daughter's daughter. ran ripped the chain off her neck, chased the guy down, cornered him and started ramming him with her walker. >> i just wanted to get my jewelry back, that's all. and i don't like to be taken advantage of. i would have felt a hell of a lot better if i was ten years younger. >> and he would have felt a hell of a lot worse if she were ten years young per. police arrested him and charged him with robbery and assault. staples suffered bruises and cuts on her finger and neck. she says she's not brave, soledad, just stubborn. >> that's right and imagine if she had been 63. >> he'd be dead. >> she would kill that man. all right, christine, thank you. there are some calls this morning for a broader congressional investigation of the secret service because reports say we're going to more likely be hearing more lurid stories of misconduct, the latest accusations reported by kiro, seattle station, it claims that agents partied hard, drank heavily at this strip club in el salvador. here is the reporter who broke that story. >> he witnessed some of the secret service agents going into the vip area to get sexual favors for cash, and ultimately he said they were working really hard to try to get the strippers back to their hotel rooms and that in at least two circumstances, he witnessed that despite him telling them it was a terrible idea that that occurred. >> cnn hasn't been able to independently verify that incident. it was said to have happened in march of last year. spokesperson for the secret service said this, "any information that's brought to our attention that can be assessed as credible will be followed up on in an appropriate manner." kara is an investigative reporter with "the washington post." nice to see you. thanks for talking to us. >> thank you. >> the unconfirmed reports out of el salvador, how likely is cartegna is the tip of the iceberg and there are going to be more similar stories to strippers, and prostitutes coming back to rooms that we'll be hearing over the next days and weeks. >> a couple of days ago we reported some of the people who have been implicated, some men implicated in the scandal were considering rescinding their resignations because or their agreement to resign because they knew of previous parties where there were prostitutes, where there were late nights at strip clubs, the vip rooms, as the reporter in seattle was reporting on in el salvador, and that basically what our sources were telling us were agents said this had been looked at and nodded and winked at by previous managers and supervisors, so what was so awful about cartegna, except that it went so public. >> in theory some of the folks who resigned could unresign because they have leverage i guess if you're speaking legally. >> lever annual is one way to put it, legally, if there's a pattern and a practice of guys behaving like they're on spring break when they're off duty before a presidential visit and they're sort of getting the ground ready but actually having a night off, if there is that pattern and practice and managers knew about it, it would be hard to come down hard and fire these guys in that instance. what we'ring here is that pattern and practice did exist in the sense of several different trips where prostitutes, strip clubs and heavy, heavy drinking were part of the scene. >> carol, will cain. you said something interesting "off duty." when the secret service agents are on a trip out of the country, are there times when they are off duty or are they always on duty? >> it's a great question. the secret service policy manual in this regard is a little bit vague and a little bit specific. it says you're never supposed to do anything to bring dishonor to the service or to raise questions or jeopardize your security clearance. so you're always essentially on duty as a secret service agent or a secret service officer and many of the guys were not agents but officers and however you are on shifts so to speak and i liken it to a pilot, a pilot is in athens for a trip and deadheads there but is going to come back. they're not supposed to drink eight hours before they are supposed to be on their next shift and in a cockpit, and that's the case for the secret service. you're supposed to be sort of in your right mind before your shift begins. you can say these guys were essentially off duty because they weren't on shift. the question is you're in an area, securing it for the president, you're part of representation for the united states, in a foreign country, and the secret service takes that really seriously. >> and also i would imagine any opportunity where you could be compromised or put something at risk would be dangerous not only for the person you're guarding but also the entire country. john, you wanted to jump in. >> some pointed out in cartegna prostitution is legal and that might be a mitigating circumstance in the colombian case. is that the case in el salvador? >> it is the case in some zones. this has allegedly taken place in other cities. you'll see more reporting from us on this. the legality of the foreign country is less important to the secret service than the policy manual which says do not solicit prostitution, do not solicit prostitutes. colombia is very upset about the news that has sort of made it the butt of international jokes and described it as swimming in prostitutes. it's funny to me because colombia says prostitution is legal, but they don't want people to have the impression that that is the only thing going in the country. >> well one can completely understand that. so when they call for a congressional investigation as some have already done, what would that specifically mean, do you think? >> well, it's hard to tell at this minute how a congressional probe might look but of course, as we've seen in the past, congress can subpoena a series of documents, demand interviews with key personnel. the key here is really, it's an important pivot point for the secret service, they said they were on top of this, they said they were doing a swift investigation, they were going to get to the bottom of it, punish the people who did something wrong and as you saw in a hearing with the homeland security director, secretary napolitano this week said we've taken action, we don't believe anything of this has happened before and then comes the el salvador allegations and you start to wonder, is congress going to trust the secret service to tell the full truth or at least to look really hard under this mess. >> we've heard the same thing, this has never in my career ever happened, it's unheard of, and then you hear more and more. it's going to be an interesting investigation. carol, thank you very much. we appreciate it. ahead on "starting point" this morning, think being sending your kids to medical school? some new talk from the doctors themselves that might surprise you a bit. and a true success story, you have to see champ george st. pierre will join us live, tell us how he went from being 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>> plastic surgeons, what are you doing? come on. why are plastic surgeons unhappy? that's a lot of schooling and a ton of money. >> it's probably not that fulfill. given someone fake calves or a new -- >> what? >> i was thinking about myself, but a new chin or -- i'm going to get a will one. healing is what you think you go to medical school for, not giving someone implants. >> tons of people love their implants. i think that's insane. >> as a doctor you don't feel fulfilled, rewarded. >> sure you do, that person looks great, i feel fulfilled. i disagree with you on that. still ahead on "starting point" a true success story, ufc champ george st. pierre will talk about how he went from being bullied to being a black belt. more than 150 million professionals are connecting here. linkedin connects with the big board. ♪ >> do i have to pay someone to get a song on today? that's will cain's playlist today. that's janice joplin. >> you win the tv today. >> this week's cnn hero beat his addiction to drugs and alcohol by filling that void with sports. now scott is helping hundreds of other people do the same thing to find a healthy high. take a look. >> i get on my bike and ride up in the mountains. really just brings peace and in my drug and alcohol use it was the opposite. i got into it pretty young. by the time i was 15 i was using pretty serious drugs. when i got sober and i lost my group of friends because they were still out drinking and using, i got into boxing, triathlon, climbing. i had a new group of friends that had completely redesigned myself. how do i give this to other people? 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"starting point" begins right now. ♪ >> i like it. that's jon's playlist. "call me." >> i got three songs on today's show. it's a record for me. >> i got nothing. >> it's a zero sum game. >> take a couple days off because you're out sick and you lose all your juice. mark lamont hill joins us and john fugelsang joins us and will cain is a columnist at blaze.com. a lawyer for george zimmerman will drop a six-figure bombshell on a florida judge and some legal experts say it could land trayvon martin's killer back in jail. attorney mark o'mara saying he just discovered that his client has more than $200,000 in online donations but the judge was told zimmerman and his family had little money when bail was set earlier this week. >> he asked meed what to do with his paypal accounts and i asked what he was talking about. he said those are the accounts that had money from the website he had and that there was about $200,000 that had come in to date. i don't think judge lester is going to believe i misled them. i told them what i knew at the time which is exactly what i was aware of. >> would that have made a difference had the judge known that he had 200,000 in paypal accounts? >> it might have. i'm certainly going to disclose it to the court tomorrow. coincidentally we have a hearing. certainly we acknowledge he did not have funds available to him and these were. i'm not certain that he thought in some sense they were available to him because even after the bond was granted it was the family who was trying to come up with enough money for the bond. >> brings us to martin savidge live for us in atlanta this morning. the hearing as we just heard is going to be in front of that same judge. what do you think happens? >> we thought this would be another routine hearing and that's gone out the window as a result of this $200,000 bombshell. there are three things the judge can do. he can revoke bond for george zimmerman, increase bond for george zimmerman or just leave things the way they are. i don't presume to know what the judge is going to do but i bet the prosecution is certainly going to make a big deal on this because just remember a week ago they had three family members under oath say they didn't know anything about how much money had been raised by the website and it appears somebody knew and there was a lot of money. >> the attorneys for the trayvon martin family have said the family would like to see bond revoked. it was a low bond. mostly because or maybe correlated to the fact that they didn't think he would get out if they put the figure higher. are there expectations that in fact that could happen, martin? >> i don't think anybody believes bond will be revoked but certainly the lawyers for trayvon martin's family believe this points to a flaw in the entire case and that is you can't always trust what george zimmerman says. this is attorney ben crump as he spoke on that issue. >> he knew whether he communicated that to his attorney, whether his attorney solicited that information from him or not. he knew what the crux of the matter was at that bond hearing and he, like his apology, was n insincere in his silence as well as what he said to the court. >> most people legally would say they doubt bond will be revoked but you never really know what could happen next. >> one has to imagine that might put the judge in a very annoyed position to discover something like this on tv versus a hearing in his courtroom the first time around. if martin savidge for us. thanks. appreciate it. let's get right to christine romans with a look at the other headlines making news this morning. >> good morning. we're following that breaking news. an entire airport terminal evacuated at minneapolis-st.paul international airport. this is a live look at the airport where officials say a security screener checking for explosives flagged a piece of luggage. a bomb squad has been called to terminal two and all flights are grounded. all roads leading up to the airport are closed and passengers are being held at their flight gates. travelers who had not yet been screened have been evacuated from the airport. terminal one is not affected. that's minneapolis-st.paul this hour. house republicans are busy drafting a contempt of congress citation against attorney general eric holder claiming he's obstructing their investigation into the fast and furious gun tracking operation. that atf plan allowed illegal gun purchases in order to track weapons going to mexican drug cartel leaders. instead hundreds of guns vanished and many turned up at crime scenes including the murder of law enforcement. a very rough day on the witness stand for john edwards' former aide and close confidant. he admitted he used much of $1 million in campaign supporters money to build his dream outside in south carolina and not to cover up an affair edwards was having with his mistress, rielle hunter. joe biden using a line from teddy roosevelt to tear into mitt romney. the vice president and chief white house attack dog delivered a campaign speech on foreign policy at nyu university yesterday. listen to how he's positioning the president and framing the debate for the six-month battle ahead. >> speak softly. carry a big stick. i promise you the president has a big stick. osama bin laden is dead. and general motors is alive. we can't say for certain what governor romney would have done. >> biden is expected to continue that theme. polls show americans believe president obama is stronger than romney on national security and foreign policy issues by a double digit margin. the obama re-election machine is ramping up. you're looking at the president's new campaign web video. bill clinton is the narrator talking up the mission to kill osama bin laden. >> and that's what you hire a president to do. you hire the president to make the calls when no one else can do it. >> the web video debuted online this morning. soledad in. >> thanks, christine. i'm sitting here coughing. appreciate that. all right. still ahead this morning, we're going to talk about these tweets that i guess is coming from -- okay. i'm going to go with my notes here. apology from the boston bruins. this is a story about those racial tweets by some of the fans, i guess. it started after wash senators player joel ward scored the winning goal in overtime to win the playoff game. that win after that there was something like 40 or at least 40 tweets that used the n word, that's because joel ward is black and of course we're not really going to repeat them but i have to give you a sense of how awful they were. i'll give you a simple. the n word scores again. we riot. we lost to a hockey playing n word and n word beat us in overtime. are you kidding me? those aren't even the worse ones honestly. >> it is worth pointing out we can't ascertain where these remarks originated from. they could have been nonboston fans. >> washington capitals is who joel plays for. jamal anderson is with us this morning. nice to see you. i'm sort of one of thee stories like this i have to tell you i don't know where to begin. i will just start with when you heard this about the tweets at least 40 of them, what was your reaction? >> first it was shocking. and then it was sad. they associated most of the tweets to boston bruins fans and that was certainly unfortunate given the history of boston but also the storied history of boston not just the sports but the social issues that have taken place there. tough. tim thomas was a hero for boston bruins. he gives up a goal to joel ward, a guy who is not necessarily known as a big-time scorer in the nhl but an african-american player and then the floodgates opened up unfortunately and you got a chance to see a fraction of the awful tweets that people sent. it's just sad for hockey. sad for the nhl. a sport that's trying to crossover and become a more diverse sport and become a more assessable sport to all minorities and obviously this is not a sport that has a tremendous amount of diversity in it as it is now. it was tough to see. really, really unfortunate particularly this day in age with this hockey team, a team who won the nhl last year. >> here's why joel ward is my new hero of the day. he said to "usa today," it doesn't phase me at all. there's no lying about it. i'm definitely the one black guy in a room with 20 white guys. there are definitely some cultural differences such as taste in music but i've never heard anything derogatory. you have a son, i believe, who plays hockey. >> my oldest son has played since he was 6 years old. >> what's your experience been with him? >> well, you know, soledad, i was talking before, we have had a really positive experience. we got featured on nhl.com and dexter pass playhas played for of years. it's been a positive experience for us but most of the time when i get there, it doesn't take long for most of the fans to realize who i am and not just the parent of dexter anderson but jamal anderson the football player. i don't really get the same reaction i would think that most people would get or where it would be a cold shoulder or anything because we kind of -- in the beginning we essentially looked for it understanding the sport we're coming to. most of the time people are like the dirty bird son's plays hockey. yes, he plays hockey. >> this is will. i got to tell you, i'm surprised that you're surprised. you played before the age of twitter. this seems to be a little bit of a social media story to me. i'm never surprised any more how many twitter tough guys there are. people willing to say whatever they want under the condition of anonymity. i'm called a racist on a daily basis. >> my twitter followers always love me. i don't know what he's talking about. will cain must be confused. you're right about that. at the same time as soon as the story became national you notice, a lot of people started quickly deleting their accounts because they realized someone is going to trace this back to me and i'm going to be outed as using the n word against a guy who is done a great job winning a game. >> the thing is, will, i think why i'm surprised is because it's boston. this is a team who won it all last year and obviously there's been some issues and some history with boston. we can't act like this is not occurred. there are also african-american iconic sports athletes in boston. 2012 and then all of a sudden he's one guy who makes the goal. to see that kind of stuff, yes, soledad, a ton of people did delete their accounts but it was really, really unfortunate to read given the situation. >> i'm amazed at how easily the n word rolls off -- i'm amazed by that and disappointed. i want to move on. we have a lot to cover. i want to talk about the new orleans saints. the gm, mickey loomis, said absolutely no there was no eavesdropping on opposing teams. i want to play a clip of what he said at his presser. >> i have never listened to an opposing team's communications. i have never asked for the capability to listen to an opposing team's communications. i have never inquired as to the possibility of listening in on an opposing team's communications. and i have never been aware of any capability to listen in on an opposing team's communications at the superdome or any nfl stadium. >> he sounds pretty definitive that no, no, and no it did not happen. >> he sounds like bill clinton saying i did not have sex with that woman. >> i do not believe him for a minute. >> jamal, what do you think? >> it's tough. when it first came out, my first reaction was you talk about the off-season and a team having a terrible off-season, how much worse can it get for the new orleans saints when the report first came out. then i was interested. i said if this is true, because obviously it's been a report and you have to verify these things, i wanted to see what mickey loomis had to say. he denied the report. i don't know where we're going to go from here. i know how strong the other network feels about their credibility and putting a report out there. we'll see. we'll see. saints, new orleans saints build up this good credit. won a super bowl. you get the city back and one thing after another. >> and then this. come on, new orleans, we love you. i want to talk about the draft pick and you know this is how much i know about football. what i do know -- >> i'm here. >> i have kill cain to back me up. >> he's a cowboys fan. >> here's my question, everyone makes this giant deal about the first and second round draft pick and then sometimes they disappear like there's not necessarily a correlation between all of the focus on the first round draft pick or second round draft pick and who does well out of college and playing in the pros, right? >> watch this. jam jamal, when were you drafted? >> seventh round. >> final round. >> i think in football you have a better chance of getting a solid player in first round than any other round that's why it's high stakes. >> there's so much that goes into it now. obviously the workouts, personal workouts, you have the combine, you have so many different ways that at the test these guys and poke and prod to figure out what's the best player and what the mentality is like but it's a crapshoot. tom brady, michael strahan, there are tons of players that are good that led teams and went to championships who were drafted in the later rounds. the draft in and of itself is something that every team and every fan of football focuses on because it's great to get those commissioner hugging those guys but you want to see what will happen in second and third and fourth and how do you improve your team with young talent that you never know who is going to show up. pick number 201 for seventh round. >> i know nothing about football. i told my husband that. it's a crapshoot if you ask me. thank you, jamal, for proving me right. who am i going to believe? you or jamal? >> this is best new artist grammy. >> i'm just saying, jamal, who do you think was the steal of the draft so far in first round? >> i don't know that you necessarily say a steal. trent richardson going high. right now the whole mentality of the nfl and it is a quarterback driven league and it's important to have a quarterback so you saw for sixth or seventh time two quarterbacks go one and two but trent richardson going to cleveland browns and number three was pretty big because the whole perception that the position is changing and importance of the position is changing and you never know. you saw a safety also go in the first round in top ten picks and they talk about and a linebacker as well. you had three different players. linebacker, running back and safety. right now the game is sort of changing where you see quarterbacks, wide receivers, and cornerbacks being driafted n high positions. they are talented players and could be game changing players for those teams. >> i'm just sitting around talking sports with jamal anderson. me and jamal chatting about sports. i hope my husband is watching this. just chatting about sports with jamal. talking about the draft with jamal. always nice to catch up with you. you know i have been out sick for a couple days. no flowers. no notes. not even a phone call. it's okay. i'm not bitter. so you guys have not had a chance to see me on "the daily show." it happened on tuesday night. we'll show it to you and i'll take you behind the scenes of how it went. it was a lot of fun. up next, former secretary of state madeleine albright will join us. we'll talk about her special relationship with hillary clinton. you're watching "starting point" and we're back in a moment. all energy development comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... how did the nba become the hottest league on the planet? 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>> it was my friends. it was field day. my friends were saying why did you say this about me on facebook? why did you say that? >> so all of a sudden it dawned on you that somebody was saying something and attributing it to you. when did you figure out there was a fake page and what did you think when you first saw it? >> i figured it out through one of my friend's pages through the post and then i just kind of -- my god. >> it's okay. take a breath. slow down. come on. you're doing okay. it's all right. it must be very upsetting. >> yes, it was. it was very upsetting when i figured it out. >> i bet it was. i bet you went and told your mom and dad. i'm going to ask them to jump into this part of the story. i assume, chris and amy, you went to school officials and said let's stop this. what happened? >> well, the morning after we saw the facebook page, he went to talk to the principal and say what can we do? this is what's going on? can you help us try to find who did this? she goes, we will do everything we can to help you out but unfortunately, you know, our hands are tied as far as what we can and cannot do. then i told chris, i said, okay, what should we do? >> and at that point we went to the local police to see if there was anything they could do. we filed a report with them. unfortunately at that time they told us that there was nothing that they could do to pursue it. >> i was going to cut you off for a minute. i know that alex is a bit of a sleuth herself was able to track down the two students who were behind it. and even though the school wouldn't release their names. i want to get natalie to comment. what made you think that this would be a case that you should bring this to court and you should in fact sue these students for libel opposed to saying nothing i can do, which is what the school was saying. >> we were seeing this happen again and again with students across the country and very similar circumstances where facebook was being used as a weapon as a tool to lash out against other children for no reason other than just hatefulness and mean spiritedne spiritedness. we felt we had an opportunity to bring attention to the issue and potentially change the way the issue is handled in schools and to change the way the issue is handled by the police and the state of georgia. we wanted to take that opportunity. >> we're going to watch how this case goes. alex, i know this has been a tough thing for you. you're back at your school. i'm rooting for you. when you win this case and you go on to become an attorney yourself, we're going to talk. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you for being with us. good luck to you. appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead this morning on "starting point," swing state voters are a big focus obviously during election season but voters in other states, not so much. comedy central's "daily show" decided to change that and invited am he to help out. one of the stars of "arrested development." i'll ask tony hale if buster comes out if his new movie "veep." you're watching "starting point." on our car insurance. great! at progressive, you can compare rates side by side, so you get the same coverage, often for less. wow! that is huge! 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[ male announcer ] jetta tdi clean diesel. the turbo that gets 42 miles per gallon. that's the power of german engineering. ♪ some primary voters get all of the luck living in swing states with media watching their every single move but what if you live in a state that's considered less important? this week "the daily show" decided to give those voters a voice. >> it was time for "the daily show"'s primary day fantasy wish-a-torium day. >> we were going to make kevin feel like his vote matter. we got him soledad o'brien. >> which candidate do you think best represents a pro-life voice and why and let's hear from kevin on this. >> mitt romney says one thing today, he said another thing a few years back. that's why again i favor a guy like santorum. he's been consistent on the issue. >> how about our nonthreatening black couple? >> if i could make two points, number a, great point, kevin. great point. and letter b, i agree with whatever kevin says. >> soccer mom? >> i agree with kevin. the children are our children. >> okay. let's move to a hot button issue. gay marriage, which candidate would you say speaks to your concerns about gay marriage the best. and i think we all want to hear from kevin on this one. >> well, soledad, i'm pro-traditional marriage. that's where i gravitate back to a guy like rick santorum. >> i'm anti-homojust like kevin. >> that's a good place to leave it. he doesn't reflect your opinion, does he, all he takes it to its next logical conclusion. >> that was so funny to do. my goodness. that was hilarious. >> that's great stuff. nice to know you'll spend time with your "daily show" friends but abandon us the whole week. >> we taped that ahead of time. i was in bed the last several days. that was fun to do. what great acting. that's actually what i do. those are actually -- kevin was not acting. super great guy. chatted with kevin. kevin and i were the only nonactors. kevin was annoyed. he's a voter who wanted to be counted. they made his wish come true. >> for a guy in new york that still supports santorum. that's affirmative action by the way. >> still ahead on "starting point," we're going to be joined by actor tony hale, one of the breakout stars from "arrested development." he talks about his new show called "veep." he'll tell us how it could make us a kindler, gentler nation. this is tony's playlist. you're watching "starting point." recently, students from 31 countries took part in a science test. the top academic performers surprised some people. so did the country that came in 17th place. let's raise the bar and elevate our academic standards. let's do what's best for our students-by investing in our teachers. let's solve this. [ roger ] tell me you have good insurance. yup, i've got... [ kyle with voice of dennis ] ...allstate. really? i was afraid you'd have some cut-rate policy. [ kyle ] nope, i've got... [ kyle with voice of dennis ] ...the allstate value plan. it's their most affordable car insurance -- and you still get an allstate agent. i too have...[ roger with voice of dennis ]...allstate. [ roger ] same agent and everything. [ kyle ] it's like we're connected. no we're not. yeah, we are. no...we're not. ♪ the allstate value plan. dollar for dollar, nobody protects you like allstate. >> it was at that moment buster forgot he lost his hand. >> i am a monster! >> he was a breakout star on "arrested development" and now buster is on another hit show but it's a very different role. tony hale plays gary on hbo's new comedy "veep" the body man for the new president. >> this is your coffee. it's really hot. >> put it down right there. gary, my god, what was i just going to say. i don't know. went out of my head. it will come to me later. >> tony hale joins us now. nice to see you. good morning. thank you for being with us. this show is getting great reviews. why did you want to take part in this? >> why did i want to take in it? julia plays the vice president and she's amazing. she's been a comic inspiration for me for so long. and then the director is fantastic but i really liked the aspect that especially in this election year all we're hearing is perfect sound bites and planned speeches and i loved that this takes you behind the scenes and shows these people have meltdowns and freak out and scream at their staff and humanizes the political scene a little bit. >> when i interview actors, if they are a stripper, i hung out at strip clubs and if they are a doctor, they hung out in the e.r.a. who did you hang out and research? >> they gave us a behind the scenes tour of d.c. and i got to meet some body men to politicians. i got to see these people were 24/7 people. they pretty much had no social life. that was their life. with my character, gary, i worship julia. i worship here. if i was ever to -- i should have left this job in my 20s but i stayed around because she's pretty much my identity. >> good morning. congratulations on the show. it's funny and smartly written and performances are so well written. a lot of us don't know much about the political body men and what's the most fun about your character is the guy who is at the fund-raiser constantly whispering in her ear about the factoids she needs to know about people that come to shake her hand. is this how it is for these guys? are you trying to keep your elected official from looking silly? >> i'm a walking wikipedia. my character doesn't really know a lot about politics. he doesn't really know a lot about passing bills or whatever but when it comes to random facts about people, he knows it. he knows that somebody -- is that how it really is for the professional body man. >> whatever information you hear, you just have to constantly remember because if she's talking to somebody i can whisper in her ear, he's a tri-athlete. she just had triplets. just kind of things that she can then have a conversation piece about. you know, he's got a brother in rage against the machine so she can talk about it. >> we'll play a clip and have will ask you a question on the other side. >> tell dan to start working on t t the yogurt story. this is way too much. >> what do you want me to do? what? >> let's not do that again, all right. >> it's will. we should say that the show is on hbo. i got to imagine as an actor when you get a script or part offered to you that's on hbo, you have to be excited not just because your free from censors but free from ratings and you can pursue what you think is funny. >> that's true. having done network television, you are dependent on ratings and numbers and hbo has given us a tremendous amount of freedom in this process. they just gave us a lot of time to find these relationships and the comedy and hopefully is shows. hbo has been fantastic. >> it's gotten great reviews. tony hale co-starring in "veep." thanks for being with us this morning. >> "end point" is up next. "pend end point" on a friday. >> it's still a story that the secret service may have been secretly serviced. there are mitigating circumstances here. 49 years with no dead president. let's give them credit. they may have to hire more female. congressman investigating whether anybody use ed prostitus is like gargamel investigating smurf abuse. >> i'm going with george zimmerman. he's been dishonest and this $204,000 fund-raising thing is more evidence of the fact he's not honest. he also said when he gives his apology to trayvon's family, i tho h

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