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whose ipod is that? >> i don't know. >> susan, it's yours? >> contributing editor to "van ""vanity fair"." >> oh, it's lady gaga, oh, that's my ipod. welcome. welcome as we put you on the spot right abap it's nice to have you. good morning. will cain is on your right, my left nice to see, you will cain. we spent the weekend together, as i did with roland martin. >> yes, we did. >> doing election coverage this weekend. nice to have you guys. appreciate it. president obama's re-election hopes rests heavily on whether the voters agree the economy has improved. the president said even though it's still on the mend he has earned another four years in office. this is what he told nbc's matt lauer in a sit-down that aired right before the sulk. >> i deserve a second term but we're not done. we created 3.7 million jobs over the last 23 months. we've created the most jobs since 2005, the most manufacturing jobs since 1990. but we're not finished. and the key right now is just make sure that we don't start turning in a new direction that could throw that progress off. >> congressman bill florez is a republican from texas. he is live in washington, d.c. this morning. he is a member of the budget committee. nice to have you, sir. appreciate it. >> good morning. soledad. great to be with you. >> i'm going go out on a limb and say you disagree with the president that he deserves another four years? >> i think it's understated. he had trotted about his happy fis about the employment numbers but the american people whole heartedly disagree. >> let's talk a little bit about how the economy is doing. many things that the president said in his interview with matt lauer all focused on the slow recovery of the economy. he came into office for the first full month, that number was 8.3% unemployment. went as high as 10% unemployment in october of 2009. now coming back. 8.3. doesn't he have a fair argument for something i'm doing is working? >> well, actually, let's look at the real facts. the real unemployment number was 7.8%. so we still have millions more unemployed today than we had at the point in time when he was sworn into office. the question here is a choice of policies. we can either go the policy package that president roosevelt tried back in the great depression or we can try what ronald reagan did. if we had followed the ronald reagan recovery model we would have almost 17 million more americans working today than we do and 5700 more dollars per capita for every man, woman, and child in this country in terms of higher gdp. >> those are very, very big fs, with all due respect. if you look at the trend, september, 9.1% unemployment. october, 9% unemployment. november, 8.6% unemployment. january, 8.3% unemployment. if you were in the white house, you see this chart, you're like, this is a good chart to campaign on. if you're a republican trying to take the white house you say, this chart not so great to campaign on. >> what is the challenge? >> we can take a lot of credit for the turn around in employment. we've got two policies coming out of washington today. on one hand, you've got the house republicans that are pushing the reagan type agenda, explosive growth following a deep recession, on the other hand, you've got harry reid and the president pushing the break on the private sector so that it is having trouble getting going. so i don't think that it really gives the president anything to crow about. there hasn't been a president that's been reelected when unemployment has been higher than 7 % since the recession. excuse me, since the great depressi depression. i don't see any reason for that cha to change today. >> the cbo is repro jekting the unemployment rate could go up to 8.8%, are you willing to say, listen, congress gets credit for that if that happens. that is our fault? >> again, we've got the house republicans pushing the pedal to the medal on a reagan type of ajend da that we know worked. we've got the president and harry reid who are trying to push a very big government type of agenda. unfortunately we're out numbered because they've got two parts of the elected branches of government and we've only got one part. we have done our part to help turn things around. but at the same time, we don't have full control. if we did, i can guarantee you we would have much better recovery than what we see today. the president's policies have failed. they have caused more unemployment than we had when he was elected. and we have also got a situation where he's retarding the level of growth that we could have. >> so when you look at these numbers in the poll that says how congress is doing its job, what you're telling me apparently is not getting out to the rest of the world because people think congress is doing a terrible, terrible job 786% disapprove. only 11% approve. what are you going to do to keep that number? >> what i'd like to do is continue a private sector, free market main street types of policies. those include less regulation. they include a fair or flatter tax system. they include all the above american energy solutions. basically america -- i mean, the gop has a jobs package we put on the table. >> what are you holding up? i can't -- my eyes are so bad. i'm looking at a prompter that's 2 1/2 miles away. >> i can hold it closer for you. >> what is that? >> gop jobs plan for america. and we've been working on this all of last year and this year. several of these bills are waiting on harry reid's desk to be considered by the senate. there are 30 bills that we passed who would make a main street solutions towards improving the economy but 27 of them haven't had any action by senate. >> congressman flores, thanks foreseeing us. can you pop that in the mail to us? or somebody in your office shoot it to pdf in our office. >> gob.gov and it's great to celebrate ronald reagan's 101st anniversary of his birthday with you today. >> i'm going to give you texas a&m shoutout. >> celebrating reagan, okay, thank you, sir. this was vicki worth, the entire interview. >> i just want to say, because i read this congressional budget report. >> riveting, huh? >> so riveting. it gets to the end and it says, as you pointed out, you know, jobless figures could get much worse following statistics needs to happen. by the way, ignore all of the above if europe implodes, which is not impossible, or if any of the bills that we just said are going to pass, don't pass. and i felt like saying, or if an asteroid hits the earth. i mean, like, really, it's all a bit meaningless. >> a big guess. >> a big guess. >> his lar use, with the conversation, again, you hear on one hand the president can do nothing to create jobs, private sector creates jobs. but then, oh, we're going to blame the president for not creating jobs. but then he says congress, we've done our part. when the democrats control the house they complain about the exact same thing. the senate isn't getting any bills pass because they say republicans are blocking it. we try to assess blame but then take credit. >> let's move off of this blame because it's unusual because i often enjoy blame. i like figuring out who is responsible for mucking things up. however, what does it's mean for an election year? if it goes from 8.3 -- that chart, really the downward motion is what everybody is going to look at. if it goes up again, does it mean that president obama struggles to get in office or does not get in, does not get elected, whoever the gop nominee is? >> if unemployment goes up, very difficult on president obama. the conversation with the congressman, the conversation we're having. we too often treat turn employment statistic -- we treat -- you and i have talked about this. >> we have. >> too often treat the unemployment statistic as though it's a scoreboard for the economy and, therefore, the scoreboard for how the election should go, so many things involved in how the economy is doing. debt, foreign affairs. if all boils down to how you feel as a consumer and, therefore, how you feel as a voter. >> got to play a role in how you feel. you see a chart that goes like this, unemployment going down, has to play a role. >> last night, super bowl halftime, i think that's how america feels regardless of these figures. we're at halftime. if that's not improved -- >> how you feel matters but also how the stock market performed. all of that is factored in. of course, it's all a part of it. >> we have other headlines to get to. i can see how this morning is going to go. panelists to chitchat and i'm trying to toss to the news. it's going to be a long, long morning. christine, i'm trying my hardest to get to you this morning. good morning. >> to roland's point, the stock market is at a four-year high. the dow and s&p, there you go. the state department says it is deeply concerned about egypt's plan to put 19 american on trial. among that group, sam lahood, son of the u.s. transportation secretary, ray lahood. accuse of illegally accepting foreign financing in egypt's crack down on non-profit organizations. jill daugherty live in washington with the latest on this. good morning, jill. >> hey, christine in is escalating very, very fast. you've already had warnings from president obama, from hillary clinton, and from members of congress that this really has to stop. one of the problems is, for the egyptians, if it does not stop, the pressure is building right now on capitol hill to stop giving aid to egypt. that is about $1.5 billion that is at stake. the egyptians say that these groups, democracy support groups, are getting out-funding. they get funding from the state department, of course, and others in the government and they are trying to foam unrest. but the groups are saying they're trying to register. they are trying to do the right thing. so it's a very, very decision right now and no sign that anything is going to be resolved. these people could go to court. >> jill daugherty, thank you so much, jill. also making headlines this morning, 30 more deaths reported overnight in the syrian city of homs. government forces showing the city after china and russia blocked a u.n. resolution calling for syrian president bashar al-assad to be removed. in just a few moments we'll talk about the next step tort u.s. on this syrian congress. joined by susan rice, u.s. ambassador to the u.n. authorities in washington state say josh powell blew up his home and killed himself and his two young sons yesterday. it happened just days after he was denied custody of his children. powell was a person of interest in the 2010 disappearance of his wife susan. new information about the komen foundation last week to stop funding breast cancer screenings. komen has since restored that funding after an outcry. the huffington post reports it saw e-mails that prove komen's vice president for public policy karen handel, she was behind the original decision. several online petitions are already circulating calling for her removal. minding your business this morning, concerns about greece's debt problems pushing markets lower this morning overseas. u.s. stock futures are pointing to a lower open right now after a very nice rally on friday following a strong jobs report. and for the second time in four years, new york city will be honoring the new york jintsz with a ticker tape parade. the giants defeated the patriots, 21-17 to win super bowl xlvi last night. second super bowl championship in four years. the other big talk from the game, madonna's halftime show, close call for the material girl when she slipped and nearly fell at one point during the performance. she had a little trouble regroup for a moment but carried on. the match-up of her songs getting mixed reviews this morning. soledad, you liked it, didn't you? >> i did. mixed reviews, what are you talking about? >> i know. sore ankle, too. >> six-inch heels with a sprained ankle. what does she have to do, like levitate? >> i say work it. >> you didn't like it? >> i hated it. >> why? >> cleopatra? really? >> i liked it. >> really? >> 2012. >> there was a point -- >> i liked it. >> my son, when the guy was on the high wire and flipping and flipped, my 7-year-old was like, wow. >> i know. my kid fell asleep to madonna but he's 3. >> that was awesome. i thought it was great. >> the last super bowl halftime entertainment that blew your mind away was prince. that was just hot. >> i liked bono. i like u2. >> everybody has their favorites. speaking of super bowl, the one thing we're not talking about, did you see this? m.i.a. was sort of like the sidekick performer. >> pay attention to me, like a child, me, me, me. >> guess what, we're paying attention to her this morning. what she did did draw a little attention back and forth. also the crisis in syria, why russia and china's involvement could be stumbling blocks to tree to get peace there. susan rice is joining us from the white house coming up next. short break. back in a moment. 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>> well, soledad, what happened on saturday when russia and china chose to veto a resolution that would have given political backing to an arab league plan to begin a negotiated transition, is that they put a stake in the heart of efforts to resolve this conflict peacefully. the resolution on the table would have done nothing more than have encouraged the arab league in their efforts to bring the two sides to the negotiating settlement and transition to democracy. they have, by their actions, by their veto, dramatically increased the risk of greater violence and we've seen the manifestations of that and indeed increase the risk of civil conflict. united nations will continue on this issue. we of the united states 13 of the 15 members of the security council are yunited in seeking peaceful resolution of this. we will step up our economic pressure. we'll coordinate with our arab partners ever so closely to increase the pressure on assad and isolate him. and russia and china will, i think, come to regret this decision which has aligned them with a dying dictator, whose days are numbers, put them at odds with the syrian people and the entire region. >> were you surprised -- it seemds seemed to me and other people that moscow was to going to do this for while a while, scuttle any ind cough resolution. >> i think toward the end when we came to a vote, we knew what the outcome was going to be. but we thought it absolutely essential that we not fall for further russian delaying tactics. they wanted to put off the vote until middle or end of next week and continue neg yagnegotiationn the basis of rec'ing amendments. their their callcadling and supe syrian dictatodictator. they have been. the people of syria will remain in the crosshairs. we, the united states, stand with the people of syria. russia and china are obviously with assad. >> do you see a formal contact route in libya that would help coordinate assistance to the syrian opposition? >> well, soledad, we're looking at a wide range of next steps. ic i think many of our partners in the arab world are discussing this. they will meet on february 11th for another set of decisions. we are actively and aggressively discussing this with them. i think, frankly, a whole range of step, diplomatic, economic, and otherwise are at our disposal and we will be b. working together to determine the most appropriate steps. >> does otherwise mean military options? >> soledad, i think clearly we and the entire region have an interest in resolving this crisis peacefully. that remains our objective. >> and does that mean that military options are off the table or military options are certainly still on the table? >> soledad, i don't want to get into speculation. but i do think that our aim has been throughout to use diplomacy, sanctions, and economic pressure to make it absolutely clear to assad that his days are numbers, which indeed they are, and there needs to be a transition to represent siv democratic government in syria. >> susan rice is the diplomatic ambassador to the u.n. thank you. >> thank you. >> i never like when they won't really say yes or no to the military option thing instead of, well, everything -- >> absolutely. >> peace is always what we're thinking about. >> conversation is reminiscent of the one we had a year ago. you wonder how much of this stems from a year ago. we had a resolution in libya for humanitarian purposes. we outlived it for regime change and russia and china are not happy with what happened in libya. >> i think to your point, the difference in actually america backed britain and france and i, in fact, recently interviewed the philosopher who thinks he singlehandedly brought down gadhafi but led the french and led the british, but the americans paid for it and took no credit. they want to distance themselves from going into countries militarily. i think they're wait for someone else. >> the difference is nobody wants to go to syria this year. nobody wants to take the lead. >> i think that's the big difference. i think they will eventually because syria is close to iran and that is dangerous. >> interest ppg. ahead this morning on "starting point," it wasn't a wardrobe malfunction but m m.i.a. -- was m.i. 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[ male announcer ] if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. welcome back, everybody. i've sense janet jackson's slip-up eight years ago it has become every super bowl performance's worst fear, not that i'm a cynic, a wardrobe malfunction. this year's halftime headliner was no different. although madonna met the issue head-on last week. here's what she said last week. >> there will be no wardrobe malfunctions. promise. >> madonna's 12.5-minute halftime extravaganza was an amazing production. it was amazing. it was incredible. it was all about promoting her new album, i get that. that was material girl. she also treated her fans to a medley of greatest hits, which i appreciated. and a new song. joined on stage by stars, including one who now a day later may have stolen the show a little bit. the rapper m.i.a. gave the finger basically to a worldwide audience. i couldn't see that. >> i saw the blur. it was quick. >> i didn't see it at all. >> i was watching it. we blushed it out a little bit. it was blurred by nbc reacting a smidge too late to the gesture. the network and the nfl have both apologized but they've also kind of like apologized and then blamed each other for it. i think the real regret might be -- welcome back, roland. >> hi. >> the real problem might be, though, is that the conversation today now is all about m.i.a. and less about madonna's halftime show. >> do you think madonna walked off stage and balled m.i.a. out. you are not talking about her album, performance, we're talking about m.i.a. >> madonna danced in high heels with a sprained ank until. >> terrible music. who is going to buy that album? >> no, it wasn't. >> come on. >> madonna. >> what is wrong with you? >> i'm saying the super bowl, every halftime show will get criticized because people will say, i like it, i don't like it. happened with the who. happened with a bunch of people. >> there is nothing you can say about that staging. that staging was amazing. they put it up in eight minutes. >> even elton john likely liked that halftime show. >> it's in the papers today. have you talked to elton? >> vicki, that was point of the joke. him and madonna not liking each other. go with the bit. go with the bit. >> commercial break, people. ahead this morning on "starting point," three states up for grabs tomorrow. newt gingrich has a new strat y strategy. we'll see if his strategy is going to work. one he says he's still in the race. number two, he says -- >> i hate mitt romney. >> he really did. >> newsbreak? >> president obama warning iran, he says no option is off the table. we've got details on that coming up. and did you see the super bowl -- this is so funny. the little doritos baby slinging himself to grab some chips? so cute. i like this. i like that one. >> that was funny. >> we'll talk about the hits. you're a downer today, will cain. hits and misses straight ahead on "starting point." >> you need coffee or an energy drink or something. >> i'm saying, was it? >> he's going to be our contr y contrarian today. delicious gourmet gravy. and she agrees. with fancy feast gravy lovers, your cat can enjoy the delicious, satisfying taste of gourmet gravy every day. fancy feast. the best ingredient is love. 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saturday night live delivered on that idea. >> hello, moon president gingrich. >> what do you do, little girl? >> i go to school. >> and when you're not at school? >> i work as a janitor at the school per your moon decree. >> you know, on earth they thought the idea of student janitors was crazy. i guess that's why they didn't want me to be their president. >> the people of south carolina wanted you to be president. >> not all of america is as forward thinking as south carolina. >> a good moon to you. >> and may divorce be with you. >> mr. moon president. >> vice admiral herman cain. >> blastoff. >> blastoff. >> funny stuff. >> very funny. >> give it up, snl. >> yeah, that was a good one. christine, thanks. some good news about jobs. unemployment is now at 8.3%. it's the lowest number since president obama's first full month in office. last night the president said the improvement in the economy proves that he has earned another term. here's what he told matt lauer. >> i deserve a second term but we're not done. >> created 3.7 million jobs over the last 23 months. we've created the most jobs since 2005. the most manufacturing jobs since 1990. but we're not finished. the kree rigey right now is toi we don't start turning in a new direction to turn that progress off. >> those numbers have romney adjusting his attack on the president. here's what he said. >> this week he's been trying to take a bow for 8.3% unemployment. not so fast, mr. president. this is the 36th straight month with unemployment above the red line. your own administration drew. and if you take into account all the people who are struggling for work or have just stopped looking, the real unemployment rate is over 15%. >> ron brownstein is the editorial director at the "national journal" and he is joining our panel this morning. nice to see you. >> good morning. >> how do you think this unemployment drop or -- drop is such a -- more like a slide downward, is going to affect the election in november? is it too early to say? >> it's obviously good news with a big caveat. if it sustained. trajectory matters more than level. that the absolute level of unemployment is probably less important than the direction that it's heading. president obama has had several good months and you're see that reflected and n. what's probably the single most important number in the public economy, which is the share of people who think the number is improving. critical to him. the question is can it be sustained. there are some forecasts including the congressional budget office who are much more pessimistic about the second half of the year. no question if he keeps going in this direction. one point within the numbers i want to underscore. part of the challenge obama faced in 2012, and roland i think can testify to this, that the groups at the core of his coalition, whether it's hispanic, african-americans or young people, have been especially hard hit by this recession. what you're seeing in these latest numbers is some signs that recovery is beginning to reach them. they're about 1.5 million more hispanics working than a year ago. about 700,000 more african-americans working than a year ago. those numbers haven't gotten a lot of attention but they can be felt, i think, in the community. >> isn't there an issue, roland, starting with me on this. the if you are sitting here saying 8.3, the president says good news and going to go out and start campaigning on it and then it goes back up to 8.8 as the cbo is projecting and with a lot of caveats, everything has to go a certain way. many ifs. you live by the sword, you die by the sword. is unemployment going down a great thing for your campaign, suddenly it changes, we all know it could, big problem. >> we've seen this over the last three years. when it goes down the white house comes out. they feel great. in the next month then it goes back up. okay. what do we now say. so i've always said to will's point earlier that you can't get caught up in this game of hyping it right now and then it might change later. what they -- what you hear the white house continue to say is, how many consecutive months have we seen private sector job growth? that's the key. you hear that a lot. something around 21, 24 months. >> 23. >> 16 consecutive months of overall job growth. that's what they're focusing on. >> back to ron brownstein. here's what newt gingrich said on the sunday talk shows talking about the poverty and the poor. >> in america, too. >> romney's description that he doesn't worry about the poor because they have a safety net, i think, conservatives, in fact, do worry about helping every american pursue happiness. >> one thing we saw after the neva neva nevada caucuses, i'm in the race and really start to highlight the differences between her and mitt romney. if he's really in the race, what kind of damage can he cause, focused on poverty here? >> first of all, i think the broader point is right. gingrich clearly sees if he has a chance of recovery, which is not guaranteed because once you start losing a presidential primary, the history of losing against losing is the voters consider you to be less viable. i think the centerpiece is going to be taxes and argue he's a much more aggressive tax than myth ros-lehtine mitt romney. jack kerch who i covered a quite a bit and the early stages of george push's compassion nate conservatism who argued they helped the poor escape poverty than liberals have been and romney doesn't understand that because he's talking about a safety net rather than a trampoline or whatever metaphor you want to use. as part of this all of them are talking about significantly retrenching the actual amount of federal money spent on these programs. medicate, housing, food stamps across the board. that's the argument they want to make. democrats have a strong argue to the make in a recession there is simply a sheer mega tonage that matters in providing people when they are thrown out of the economy or into unemployment. >> ron brownstein looking at 1220 12 for us, we appreciate you and your time. thanks. still ahead this morning on "starting point," new insight into who nad the call at komen that would eventually lead to defunding planned parenthood. now, that person is facing some major backlash. thousands of people are saying fire her. we'll bring you details up nexta . ♪ that right now, you want to know where you are, and where you'd like to be. we know you'd like to see the same information your advisor does so you can get a deeper understanding of what's going on with your portfolio. we know all this because we asked you, and what we heard helped us create pnc wealth insight, a smarter way to work with your pnc advisor, so you can make better decisions and live achievement. my high school science teacher made me what i am today. our science teacher helped us build it. ♪ now i'm a geologist at chevron, and i get to help science teachers. it has four servo motors and a wireless microcontroller. over the last three years we've put nearly 100 million dollars into american education. that's thousands of kids learning to love science. ♪ isn't that cool? and that's pretty cool. ♪ welcome back. new interesting details about this fight between the susan g. komen for cure and planned parenthood. you'll remember that komen reversed the decision to pull fnd e. funding from planned parenthood and now we're learning who may have been behind that decision in the first place. e-mails prove that komen's vice president for public policy karen handel made the call to stop funding. several online petitions are calling for her to be fired. one-on-one credo action website has more than 25,000 signatures. komen may have apologized but they still need to clean house, starting with the person who drove this aatrocious decision. if komen wish toes rehabilitate its devastated reputation and bach gain back trust, karen handel needs to be fired. she spoke to a source talking about the e-mails. nice to have you up talk to me a little bit about this. give me the soes about the e-mails and what the e-mails show. >> i can't say much about the source. i can tell you the e-mails show that karen handel was behind the entire decision to defund planned parenthood. she was behind the strategy to develop the new criteria for who can be funded. and she's been behind the p.r. effort to clean up what's happened since the decision was announced. >> but there's a whole entire board of the susan g. komen foundation, right? and this is a decision that really came to the board way before even november. and then in december, i guess is when the trigger was pulled. so it's not like the board wasn't aware of this decision, correct? >> the board was aware of it and they did signed off on it. what i understand is that karen handel, since she was hired back in april, has been kind of pumping up and magnifying the anti-abortion attacks against komen and the anti-planned parenthood protests and what not and trying to get the board and trying to get komen leadership on her side as part of this agenda to defund planned parenthood. while she is the driving force, it is true that the leadership and the board did sign off on the criteria. >> they said many, many times this is not political when they would talk about this fight. they would say it's not political. it's not political. it's not political. i thought it was interesting that karen handel was posted july 15th, 2010, i think that's when she gave this speech. she said this, first, let me be clear, since i am pro-life, i do not support the mission of planned parenthood. is it just as clear as komen was lying and komen executives were lying about this, that it was indeed political? >> it's as clear as that. it was a bold-faced lie. karen handel had a political agenda against planned parenthood. and i know that komen founder nancy brinker went on "andrea mitchell" yesterday and said karen handel had nothing to do with this, this was nothing political. that's not true. if you're a cancer charity you have no business lying to the public about what's going on behind closed doors. i think people are really upset about this. >> many people are now calling for karen handel's head. they would like to see her resign. any indication that's going to happen? and do you think it does -- what has to happen before komen can move forward? they apologized but not without a tremendous amount of damage certainly from a pr perspective. >> they need to strongly push kar karen handel to resign and apologize again and come clean about exactly what happened. and going forward they need to have more transparency in the decisions they're making about who gets funded and who doesn't. >> you think the resignation of karen handel is more important than the admitted of the lying that it wasn't political or there was no political motivation? >> i think they're both equally important. i think they both need to happen in order for people to trust komen again and to start raising money for komen again. >> laura bassett is a political reporter for the huffington post. i should mention that we did put calls into the komen foundation for a response and they did not return our calls. i'm sure we're in a line of long people wanting conversations. i thought it was interest that they seemed surprised by the backlash. planned parenthood is so political. planned parenthood knows how to deal with political fights. it seemed to me a surprise you take on planned parenthood and not expect them to come back hard. >> it was not handled well from a public relation stainndpoint. you know my opinion on this because we talked about it during the break. >> america missed it, though. >> they weren't listening. >> there's not a table of agreement on the country. there's a legitimate debate between pro life and pro choice. even if this decision was political, even if komen's decision was political, i'm shocked at the vendetta put against them. i'm shocked that the wikipedia page was changed to say they hate poor women. i'm shocked they're calling for the resignation of someone called to it. donate to planned parenthood or else. >> i think that's a misleading. i think it comes down to if you lie about something being political and if there are e-mails that show, in fact, it was political, then you're going to have repercussions. we have to take a short break. we will pick up this conversation. you're shocked. i love it when will cain gets shocked so early in the morning. we're going to talk super bowl ads. which one is everybody talking about? who cares. we'll tell you the ones we're talking about this morning. we'll tell you about the hits and misses, coming up next. more than 50 commercials during the super bowl, and on average advertisers paid $3.5 million for a 30-second spot. so imagine if you do one and it's not successful. that's a big bummer. jim cooper is the president of ad week. and she is joining us to critique them. must be fun to watch the super bowl ads for work. >> it's a lot of fun. >> of course, you get to watch the game. >> i have to go back and watch the game. >> see what happened. i won't tell you, but the giants won. >> your bathroom break is during the game. >> let's talk about what we liked. i thought far and away the best one was this chrysler clint eastwood ad. it was beautiful. and beautifully done. i want to play it first, and we'll have you comment on the other side. >> it's halftime. both teams are in their locker room discussing what they can do to win this game in the second half. it's halftime in america too. people are out of work, and they're hurting. they are all wondering what they're going to do to make a comeback. detroit is showing us it can be done. >> i love this ad. it's sort of like they hit it right. >> i didn't like it. i know who i'm going to be this morning. i understand that i am the -- >> mr. contrarian. >> i took this ad, beautifully done, clint eastwood, awesome, but it basically boiled down to chrysler saying congratulations, america. you did the right thing. you bailed us out. when cust marly i think it needs to say thank you. >> last year i think the chrysler ad was also strong. what i got from that was detroit is working hard to come back. the quintessential american city. >> i think in a sea of silliness last night, when you heard that clint eastwood sandpaper voice came in, i was in a very rowdy place and the place went silent for the entire time. it really stood out in stark contrast to the rest of the ads that were in the super bowl. >> and it stuck. and i think also a good ad is a combination of well done but also hits its message and hits its point, whatever the point may be. they deliver. >> sort of like the morning in america ad. it had that sort of resonance. >> and i thought this was very funny. it is this doritos baby. it's a consumer ad. a friend of mine won this one year. >> these ads are always great because they are done not by huge agencies, just done by sort of creatives all over the place. and they tend to really do well. >> here's the ad. >> you want one? sorry. too bad you're down there, and i'm up here. mmm. smells so good. >> and we know will hated it. go ahead, will. we know you hated it. >> did you like this ad? >> well, you know, it's ok. my favorite ad, i have to say, did involve children as well. it was about a child wanting to go to the bathroom in a swimming pool. >> oh, yeah. >> and the only problem was i got so mesmerized by the narrative and not being able to go to the bathroom and jumping back into the pool and -- >> you can't remember who it was for. >> i had no idea what the commercial was for. >> the baby, the doritos, it's all good. there were a couple we talked about, the dog/darth vader thing. i didn't think it worked. did you like that one? >> i did. there are lots of dogs and babies last night. so those -- >> to add darth vader makes it stick out? >> but they had to pay homage from a ad from the previous year. it was such a huge success that they had to sort of draft off that a little bit. >> how about the ferris buhler ad? >> great. i loved it. i'm from that generation. >> as are all of us at this table except for will cain. >> it was leaked too far in advance. and by the time i saw it in the game, i had a little fatigue. >> it wasn't a surprise. >> here is an ad that has a little controversy. what's the story without some controversy? this is the chevy ad. ford was mad. and let's play this ad and then we'll talk on the other side. ♪ ♪ looks like we made it >> so basically the story line is there's been an apocalypse, but if you drive a chevy you can survive. i thought this was exactly opposite of the chrysler ad, america at halftime. >> i did not like this ad at all. it was pretty popular on twitter, but i felt it was dark. and the fact that they equated to being a ford owner to maybe not surviving the apocalypse was in poor taste, i thought. >> attacking another company, sort of like coke and pepsi. ford and chevy. >> apocalypse at a time when we're -- >> well, i agree with that. but i can get smacking the other company. >> do sales relate to the actual success of the ad? >> well, there's's preglow and an afterglow. all of the ads go viral very quickly. so i haven't seen the numbers yet, but i'm sure the comments on the ads were massive last night. the ratings probably will be huge, the biggest tv audience ever. >> jim cooper, thank you very much. we appreciate having you this morning. >> thanks. >> have fun watching the game, jim. >> the giants won, jim. look for victor cruz doing his end zone dance at the very beginning. starting point, egypt putting 19 americans on trial accused of inciting anti-government unrest. defendants include secretary of defense ray lahood's son. also, schools inflating s.a.t. scores. is it more widespread than you might think? those stories straight ahead on "starting point." we are back in just a moment. cool. what else does it d-o? it's fast. it's 4g lte. what's l-t-e spell? nothing. w-h-y? hey, can we stop spell talking now? ok. a-y. 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"starting point" begins right now. ♪ god blessed texas with his own hand ♪ ♪ brought down angels from the promised land ♪ >> that's good, isn't it? >> well, well, well, well. >> you've got the hat trick this morning. >> this is a hat trick, baby. >> do you hear that? >> one, two, three. >> who at this table is a texan? >> who's from long island? [ laughter ] >> who's from god's country? >> we are! >> oh, man. if i had realized that i had the three texans. this song is from texas. "god blessed texas." congressman poe is a republican from the great state of texas. it's nice to have you, sir. >> glad to be here. >> our starting point is what president obama is saying. he says he deserves a second term because the economy is making progress. here is what he told matt lawner a super bowl right before the super bowl. >> i deserve a second term, because we're not done. we created 7.3 million jobs in the last 23 months. the most jobs since 2005. but we're not finished. and the key right now is to make sure we don't start turning in a new direction that could throw that progress off. >> republicans insist this is not president obama's morning in america, even after friday's better than expected jobs report. i spoke earlier this morning with republican congressman bill flores, and he had this to say about the president's policies. >> the president's policies have failed. they have caused more unemployment than we had when he was elected. and we have also got a situation where he's retarding the level of growth that we could have. >> gosh it is texas people day. i need to get my produce or the line. we've got to fix this for tomorrow. so we have, however, a congresswoman from the state of california helping me out here, karen bass is with us. >> her dad is from texas. >> is he? >> yes, he is. >> nice to have you in spite of that. you heard what congressman flores had to say. he basically said, listen, this is not -- this number is not president obama's doing at all. what's your response to that? >> well, my response is that he knows very well when the president took over we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. and what the president has done with his policies over the last couple of years is stopped the free fall, and we gained over 200,000 jobs in the private sector last month. so i'm not really sure what my colleague is talking about. >> one of the things that you have, and i think it might be on your website, it's quite remarkable, you visited a labor work force center in your district. >> right. >> and i want to play everybody a little chunk of what you shot from there and we'll discuss it on the other side. >> i have been unemployed for a year and two months. >> 2 1/2 years. >> i became unemployed. >> i was downsized. >> even with a degree, and experience as a veteran, i'm still struggling to find employment. >> i have to say you get up, you stay positive. >> look into my eyes. and to see how much i want to work. >> wow. watching that, it was just so brutal. and to some degree, you have to think, isn't that exact thing going to be a problem for president obama, which is how does it feel to people? do they feel like they have recovered? regardless of what the chart shows, and it definitely shows that unemployment is dropping slightly, isn't that going to be a big problem in his re-election efforts? >> well, i don't think so. because of the candidates running, i have no doubt that president obama has a deeper understanding of what unemployment is and feels like than in particular mitt romney, who has been responsible for tens of thousands of jobs lost. and who characterized himself as being unemployed and having made a little bit of money, $375,000, from his speech. but let me just tell you that the purpose of those videos was because i'm very concerned that my republican colleagues want to cut unemployment, cut the amount of time you can be on unemployment, and they want to add requirements to get unemployment that i think are completely unnecessary. having people have drug tests, having people to see whether or not they have graduated from high school, when 84% of the people who are on unemployment have a high school education or further. that was the purpose of that tape. >> all right. well, one of your republican colleagues is sitting right here with me. congressman poe, what do you think? her point about that message could really resonate with viewers, with voters, rather, when it comes to november. >> well, of course the unemployment numbers are better. that's a good thing. however, there's still 14 million people that don't have jobs. and many of them have become discouraged. they are not even looking anymore. so they are not factored into that statistic. so it's very important that we really -- that we help businesses create jobs in the private sector and move in that direction than try to continue to pay people not to work. and that's part of the policy of the administration, is to pay people not to work rather than move toward helping people through the private sector get jobs. >> some people would argue it's not just paying people not to work. it's also giving them a lifeline until they are able to make it to find a job. is that something that's going to be very hard to -- if the republican candidates are going across the country campaigning on that at a time when unemployment is still high, isn't that a losing argument? >> well, the argument is focus on creating jobs through the private sector as opposed to having more government intervention. even the president has said the private sector is the area that creates jobs. such as the keystone pipeline. >> creative math is creative math. >> you add more numbers, and then it's confusing. but the job numbers are down. that's a good thing. >> congresswoman bass, let me get back to you. >> let me tell you that is exactly the point. the view that people are paid not to work, being on unemployment barely feeds people and keeps them in shelters. and frankly, an unemployment check is economic stimulus because that is monthey goes directly into the community. but it's exactly that mindset that was the purpose of the tape. and we can get jobs. we can pass the american jobs act. there was the ability to have private sector jobs. so we need to move forward with the president's plan by putting the american jobs act on the floor in the house. >> what happens if as a c.b.o. is predicting, which may or may not be true, i think we all agree it's a big if, but unemployment goes up to 8.8%? we'll start with you, congresswoman bass, because that sort of kills the trend argument basically. >> i think that's why we can't look at the jobs numbers and say the problem is solved. just as my colleague said, there are still far too many people who are out of work. but that's why congress has to get busy. we went through the entire year last year with the majority not putting forward any legislation to bring about jobs. and in fact, many of their policies were going to lead to additional job loss such as how they were talking about resolving the budget. it was going to really cut into jobs. 700,000 jobs could have been lost by some of their proposals last year. >> 11% approval rate of congress. that is not -- that is not a number to be proud of. >> i thought it was 9%, and because of our family. but the house has passed 27 jobs bills and sent those bills over to the siesta senate, where the graveyard of legislation goes. and the problem with the senate is, they don't vote that legislation down. they don't vote. and so that is part of the problem. the house has passed good legislation. it's just waiting on the senate to make up its mind. >> congresswoman bass, it's nice of you to be with us. she was nice enough to panel with us when we were in d.c. the other day. >> thanks for having me on. >> and congressman poe, thank you for joining our panel. >> whoop! >> that's an aggie thing. >> sorry. >> note to self, only two texans at a time on the show. all right. we have to get to other headlines. christine has those. you're not a texan, are you? >> i am not from texas. 19 americans could be going on trial in egypt. they're accused of illegally accepting foreign financing for their nonprofit groups. the state department says it's deeply concerned by the charges in the egypt crackdown on nongovernmental organizations. authorities in washington state say josh powell blew up his home and killed himself and his two young sons yesterday. it happened just days after he was denied custody of his children. powell was a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, susan, two years ago. greece's coalition parties are supposed to let the european union know today whether they accept the terms of a $170 billion bailout deal. the plan calls for massive wage and spending cuts. if they don't accept the deal, the greeks face possible expulsion from the e.u. and the longer greece waits to agree to the terms, the more jittery the markets get. u.s. stock futures for the dow, nasdaq, and s&p 500 are all lower right now ahead of the opening bell after a very good week last week. it's sea world versus peus . peta claims five killer whales are being enslaved and held in involuntary servitude. peta claims that they are violating the 13th amendment. sea world calls the lawsuit a baseless publicity stunt. the super bowl champion new york giants will be honored tomorrow morning with a ticker tape parade. it will begin in lower manhattan at 11:00 a.m. eastern. it will be the second ticker tape parade in just four years for the champs. and a close call for madonna at halftime in last night's super bowl. the material girl slipped and nearly fell backward at one point during a dance number, but she recovered her balance and went on with the show. but who stole the show? rapper m.i.a. decided to give the finger to a worldwide audience. nbc a little late to react. the network and the nfl have apologized. i did not see this. i watched, and i didn't see it. >> i missed it too. i spent the entire third quarter on the couch with my son in tears who was fearing that the giants were going to lose. while his twin watched the game and was like yelling -- >> he was for the patriots? >> no, no, we turned him. he's 7. we put family pressure on, and flipped him. but he would yell out the score to his twin brother, who was literally crying on the couch about the game. i'm like, it's only the third quarter. be strong. go giants. >> no allowance for you unless you're a giants fan. >> something like that. yes, indeedy. all right, thanks, christine. still ahead this morning on "starting point," there is more bloodshed to tell you about happened in syria overnight as the arab league is urging a halt to military escalation. leaders say it's pushing the country towards civil war. and our reveal this morning, a white house intern is breaking her silence. she is a 69-year-old grandmother, and she claims now that she was jfk's teenaged mistress. she's written a tell-all book now. she's a 69-year-old grandmother. we'll tell you all about that straight ahead. welcome back, everybody. syrian security forces continue to pound the city of homs. the head of the arab league says that the country on the brink of civil war. the u.n. security council resolution to isolate the syrian president failed with russia and china blocking the resolution. earlier this morning on "starting point" i spoke to susan rice. >> the united nations will continue on this issue. we the united states and 13 of the 15 members of the security council are united in seeking a peaceful resolution of this. we'll step up our economic pressure. we'll coordinate with our arab partners evermore closely to increase the pressure on assad and isolate him. and russia and china will eventually, i think, come to regret this decision, which has aligned them with the dying dictator whose days are numbered. >> that's ambassador susan rice. we have reports that more than two dozen people have been killed overnight as the government pushes back on some of the residents there. our reporter has been covering this story from beirut, lebanon. she has a bit of a delay. what's the latest? >> reporter: we've been receiving reports saying hmos >> i'm going to stop you there, because we are having some audio difficulty. we'll see if we can straighten them out and bring her back with an update on what is happening now in syria. it was interesting talking to ambassador rice, because she really would not rule out or rule in military options but also tweeted earlier in the day when the resolution died, the u.n. security council, that she was disgusted. it wasn't much of a surprise, was it? >> it wasn't. but it's good that the united states is taking that position. we're trying to be hard line with syria. but what we see overall is kind of an alliship between russia, china, iran, and syria. and those are kind of the four players in that area, especially syria and iran. assad needs to go. the united states needs to be very vocal about that and get russia and china to sign on with the resolution. >> for our audience, though, they need to understand, we also have a veto on the u.n. security council. and we have used that in the past. what you also have here, you talk about that alliance, it's also an economic one. because russia does significant business with iran. and so we see the same thing. north korea being the axis of evil, but china does significant business with north korea. when we are dealing with these international issues, another country's economic situation plays a role also in how they make a decision at the united nations. >> and how about libya and what's happening in libya? what kind of role is that playing? >> that's the other thing, congressman. i don't know how surprised we can be by this. the handwriting was somewhat on the wall that russia and china were mad about what happened in libya. we outlived our resolution there. we stayed for regime change. it's almost like we knew this was going to come. >> it was just a matter of time before this occurred. but it is an economic issue. that's why countries usually make the decisions they make. >> even us? >> even us. make it based on economic issues. however, sometimes we make them based upon humanitarian reasons as well. and syria happens to be one of those reasons. >> speaking of iran, there are tensions rising between that country and israel. we spoke about that last week. president obama now sending a warning to israel that absolutely nothing is off the table. and then schools inflating s.a.t. scores. is it more widespread than we think? we'll take a look at that straight ahead on "starting point." stay with us. that doesn't sound like you to me. >> no? >> no, sir. it's not. that's steve perry's pick. dr. steve perry is our next pick. we are talking about this morning colleges pumping up student's s.a.t. scores. we talked about it last week and were focused on clairemont mckina college busted for upping s.a.t. scores. steve perry is a cnn contributor. he is also the founder of capital prep magnet school and the focus of a documentary that we did "black in america 2." now many, many years ago. steve, nice to see i. they were ranked number 11 among liberal arts colleges, and the inflating, you know, brought them to number nine. 11 to nine. you know, what does a college get out of a two-point leap like that? >> a lot. to go -- to become top 10 in the country, they get a lot. as a matter of fact, these colleges are competing for their share of the billions of dollars in tuition and state grants and private contributions. they want to make sure they get your money, so they need to prove that they're the best. and in many of the private small colleges, they cannot go and create a compelling athletics program that is going to draw attention to their school, so they have to do something. so they cheated. >> so how widespread is it? i know a lot of this sort of relies on self reporting, which means it could be rife with cheating. is it rife with cheating? >> i don't know, and i don't know if anybody knows. but i do know that the u.s. world news and report college ranking is a joke. what college you go to is not going to determine what you do with your life. what you do with your life is what going to determine what you do with your life. it is what it is. and the only way that some of these small schools can justify charging a gang of money, somewhere upwards of $50,000 a year, is to tell you that you are somehow going to be a better person and your life is going to be enriched if you go to these schools. and u.s. news and world reports with their college ranking in particular, which i believe to be their least reliable ranking, is a self-reporting nightmare. >> here's what they say about that. they say most of the data come from the colleges. and u.s. news takes many steps to insure accuracy. this year, 92% of the top ranked colleges and universities returned their statistical information. number one, only 92% returned the information, and they returned their own self reported information. >> it's a joke. >> do you think parents care? you chat with parents. steve had 100% of his graduates go off to four-year college. 100% of his kids. so do you think the parents you're talking to care? >> yes, they do. >> really? >> yes, they do care. and as a matter of fact, every college it seems is on u.s. news and world report's ranking for something. like we're the best pharmacy program or the best oceanography program according to u.s. world news and report. they use that very liberally. and listen, capital prep is a u.s. news and world report top high school. it has been for like five years. i'll tell you, we have the plaques outside to show for it. we use it because it's supposed to be a standard measure of the quality of a school. at the college level, it's not a standard measure because one of the reporting items is what are your thoughts of the other school's reputations? tell us how good the schools that compete against you are. >> it's pure marketing. no different than you're a university and you choose to cheat when it comes to sports why. ? because you want a top 10 football program that you want to win the national championship. it's not shocking. >> but disappointing. steve perry, thank you for joining us this morning. it's like he's here. it's a little unnerving actually. all right, steve. nice to see you. still ahead this morning, a tea party leader says that newt gingrich is a lost cause for the tea party base, but gingrich says he has a new campaign strategy that he announced over the weekend. we'll talk about whether it will work. also, from girls to boys, why government health experts say that boys need the hpv vaccine also. that's interesting. you're watching "starting point." we'll take a look at that straight ahead. and welcome back to "starting point." let's get right to the headlines. christine has those for us. good morning. good morning. the president says israel is still considering military strikes against israel. the president told nbc he hopes to solve the tensions over iran's nuclear program, though, through diplomacy. >> i don't think that israel has made a decision on what they need to do. i think they, like us, believe that iran has to stand down on its nuclear weapons program. and we have mobilized the international community in a way that is unprecedented, and they are feeling the pinch. they are feeling the pressure. but they have not taken the step that they need to diplomat klee, which is to say we will pursue peaceful nuclear power, we will not pursue a nuclear weapon. manuel noriega goes from prison to the hospital. he is being treated for hypertension and possible stroke this morning. the 77-year-old is serving time for crimes committed while in office. noriega returned to panama late last year, nearly 22 years after u.s. forces forcibly removed him from office. general motorss it can make more than $10 million a year. it may be close to reaching its goal. the "wall street journal" saying that gm is expected to report a net income of $10 million. they received a bailout in 2009 after filing bankruptcy. concerns about greece's debt problems pushing markets lower this morning. u.s. stock futures for the dow, nasdaq, and s&p 500 all pointing to a lower open right now after a stellar week last week. the cdc is now recommending that boys get an hpv vaccine. it's aimed at preventing cervical cancer in women. but since women get infected from women, doctors say it makes sense for them to receive the vaccination as well. the new cdc guidelines call for routine vaccinations for boys 11 and 12 years old, and three-dose vaccinations for young men 13 to 21. and our own soledad o'brien honored by the united negro college fund friday at its annual leadership conference. soledad was awarded the national legacy award for outstanding service to higher education. soledad, congratulations. >> thank you very much. and roland is killing my joy by saying, oh, that trophy looks familiar. didn't i win one of those? i'm teasing. i'm teasing. thank you, christine. all right. we have some poll numbers to give you, a new national abc "washington post" poll of republicans. in that poll, mitt romney has a commanding lead, 39%, to newt gingrich's 23%. you can see how the rest of the folks come out under that. this is following newt gingrich's loss in nevada this saturday. tea party leader dick armey says that newt gingrich's time may have come and gone. listen. >> south carolina was an aberration because newt gingrich had what is likely to be in final analysis his best moment in south carolina. he had just one masterful moment where he transformed himself from perpetrator to victim, attacked the media, which as you know is always popular with our base, and just sort of took that momentary surge. >> now we have the colorado campaign chairman for newt gingrich. they will hold their caucuses tomorrow. thanks for being with us. we appreciate it. as you heard dick armey say and others have said, when the slide starts it's very hard to reverse that slide. is this a downward trend? and newt gingrich made it clear he's not getting out of the race, so what do you do about a downward trend? >> well, all i can do is speak to the state of colorado tomorrow night as caucus night as you mentioned in colorado. and it begins the first phase in electing delegates that we're going to send to the national convention. and we actually select our delegates april 13 and 14, and we're just receiving tremendous support from grassroots leaders, liberty leaders around the state of colorado. and we feel tremendously confident that of the 36 delegates that colorado is going to send to the national convention, the majority of those delegates are going to go on behalf of newt gingrich. but you hit on one point, and tomorrow night we do have a nonbinding presidential straw poll. and chances are mitt romney is going to do very well in that presidential straw poll. and it creates a perception that he's doing very well in the state of colorado. but i can assure you the majority of the delegates for colorado are going to ultimately go for newt gingrich. >> when you look at the state of florida, newt gingrich did very well among people who identified themselves as very conservative or strong tea partiers. that was south carolina and florida. but then when it came to the state of nevada, actually those same categories all went to mitt romney. how do you get them back? i mean, i've got to imagine that's got to be important to the strategy -- any kind of strategy to win. >> well, the one thing i know, and i don't know about nevada, but i know here in the state of colorado when you look and you show up at events where it's the grassroots, hard core party -- republican party activists, newt gingrich is doing very well. mitt romney's people are not the grassroots leaders in the republican party. you see a lot of people from the republican establishment, and you will see those people show up on caucus night and vote in the nonbinding presidential straw poll for their guy. but the people who are actually doing the work, who are going to become delegates, who are going to take this all the way to florida and to the convention, are the republican grass roots activists. and here in colorado, those people are solidly behind newt gingrich. >> tom, roland martin here. how do you keep your candidate on message? he goes to florida. he is talking about landing on the moon and putting a colony there, possibly making them the 51st state, when the real issue comes down to the economy and jobs. so what about keeping him on message and disciplined? >> i think that's a great question, roland. and that's part of it the reason i love newt gingrich is because he has a vision for restoring america's greatness. i served for 12 years, and it was great because i was hearing you guys talk about higher education. i was on the board of regents at the university of colorado for 12 years. and one of our main focuses in boulder was on nasa space exploration. because we get it. we understand the role that higher education plays in making america great. when you talk about innovation that takes place, that innovation takes place and that research and development on college campuses all around this country. you set a vision about exploring space, that is a public private partnership and critical to that public partnership are america's colleges and universities. you want to talk about an infusion of physicists, of engineers, of the technology that will be developed, you are by the very essence of that defining jobs in the economy as part of that public private partnership between the private sector and government. but it takes a big vision to define that vision for america and to restore america's greatness. >> tom, i want to ask a question to congressman poe, who is sitting here with us as well. that vision was mocked on "saturday night live" in a very funny piece. does that have any impact, number one? and number two, are we seeing the signs of the great coalescing, which i think were the words from the "wall street journal," saying that mitt romney is gathering up all the pieces now even though some people say no one really likes him? >> well, we still have this issue between romney and gingrich. that's where the focus is. most folks in the republican party are divided. and ron paul and rick santorum of course at the end. romney is trying to make sure that this whole issue of who's the presidential nominee does not go to the convention. that he gets enough delegates before the convention so that the convention stays out of the process. but, yes, there are two different philosophies between newt gingrich and -- >> and which side are you on? >> well, of course, i'm a conservative, and i believe more the conservative philosophy. but i have not endorsed anybody. every time i get on somebody's side, they drop out of the race. >> kryptonite? >> and i was 0 for eight last time. every time i endorsed someone, they were out of the race. >> tom, we can spare you that. the congressman will not endorse because apparently he is like kryptonite. you don't want his endorsement. let me ask you a serious question, though. he is talking about sort of staying -- mitt romney not wanting this to be an issue when you get to the convention. can newt gingrich afford to stay in through march, to super tuesday? which he's said he's going to. but can he afford to? michele bachmann says money is kind of the big issue. listen. >> when do you think the nomination will be settled? >> i think it could be fairly soon, but ron paul has said he will go all the way to the convention. newt has said he will also. rick santorum has said he will. but the practicality is money is a big part of it. and it would be up to the candidates what they can pay. >> final quick question to you, tom. money. can he really stay in until super tuesday and beyond? >> well, as long as the grassroots stays energized just like they are here in colorado, those small dollar donations will keep rolling in to the campaign. and if we can win delegates every state we go, we have a legitimate shot at ending up in florida at a brokered convention, just like the congressman mentioned. and if the other two candidates remain in the race as well, and we see a dilution of the delegate pool, we get to florida anything is possible. and if the congressman would please throw his endorsement to mitt romney, the newt gingrich campaign would be absolutely thrilled. >> tom lucero is the campaign manager for newt gingrich in colorado. nice to have you with us. still ahead, ford versus gm. some people really felt this ad was inappropriate. me too kind of. i didn't like this ad. plus, a new book is out. the reveal to this morning, a teenaged mistress said she had an affair with a sitting president and she goes public 50 years later. you're watching "starting point." we'll dig into that straight ahead. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome, everybody. breaking news from cnn. this news out of syria. the united states is closing its embassy in syria and is pulling out its remaining staff there. this new word coming in right now. you'll recall this comes after a resolution that called for the resignation of the president of syria, bashir al assad, which was rejected by a vote, vetoed by russia and china. we have jill doherty to talk about the impact of this. jill? >> cnn just confirming that the embassy has been closed. the staff have been pulled out. that is the american embassy in damascus. the government, the syrian government we are told, the state department saying has refused to address its security concerns. and one of those major concerns was the possibility of some type of al qaeda action. they are pointing to a car bomb last month which was apparently carried out by al qaeda. so, again, 17 members of the staff now out of the damascus embassy for the united states. and this does not mean they are breaking diplomatic relations, but it's a serious step by the united states government. >> it's interesting they are focusing on security concerns and not focusing it on the resolution that was vetoed by china and russia. but do you think maybe the two are linked? >> this has been an ongoing concern that predated that vote. so i think you'd have to say that it's really a worry over precisely and any type of threat by al qaeda. >> jill dougherty, thank you, jill. appreciate that update. the big three automakers making a comeback. things have been looking up for them over the past year from auto sales to earnings, and chrysler's super bowl ad was truly one of the most popular of last night. listen. >> it's halftime in america too. people are out of work and they're hurting. they are all wondering what they're going to do to make a comeback. and we're all scared because this isn't a game. the people of detroit know a little something about this. they almost lost everything. but we all pulled together. and now motor city is fighting again. >> christine romans is joining the panel. she is the author of "smart is the new rich" i should say. first of all, the ad i thought was an amazingly touching ad. but it was also interesting, it was just one of like 10 zillion car ads last night. >> there were nine different car companies advertising last night, and then another ad showed just sort of how spunky detroit is these days. it was a chevy ad. and i think we can show you a little video of it. poking fun at ford. >> i hated this ad. >> really? >> i felt it was so inappropriate. >> my kids were watching with me, and they were like, mommy, what happened to new york? but they come out together, and their friend dave isn't there because he drove a ford. ford didn't want them to do this. and what i thought about this ad was, wow this is detroit, the auto industry, the big three, finally getting feisty again after being on their heels for the past three years. and quite frankly, sales are up. profits are up. front page of the "wall street journal" today, a story about how gm could be gunning for $10 billion in annual profits. and u.s. today, it's halftime in america and the second half is about to come. so detroit is diplomatic. of course, it took a lot of bailouts to get here. a lot of people thought chrysler would never come back. >> that's the nod to will cain. can we get a shot of will cain? >> it took taxpayer money to get here, and taxpayers will not be made whole on some of the investments. but that's what the investment was all about, hiring people again. gm is hiring 13,000 workers. >> one of the ads was advising people to buy a car that's not coming out until 2015. really, i'm organize saidd but that organized. >> but the chrysler ad i thought it spoke beyond the car company. really the city, the mood, just like last year's. i thought it went way beyond even a car commercial. >> and americans too. they are trying to get us to buy cars. and it looks as though people are buying cars again. and you look at the numbers, people are buying cars. which brings me to sort of the "smart is the new rich" advice, which you have to -- >> you have to slow down when you say that, so you have to be like, brings me to my "smart is the new rich," now on shelves -- >> very funny. is it time to buy a car? and car companies have been so kind of stingy that people are starting to buy cars again. used prices are going up. new car prices are going up. a record new car price this year, over $28,000. smaller incentives right now. they don't need to give incentives. people have been holding on to their used cars for so long that people are trading because they have to. >> duct tape. >> it means you're getting better trade-in values. and on the used car front, this important advice, prices are forecast to go up almost 2% this year for used cars, right? buy earlier in the year, according to the dealers association, because they think later on -- >> which is now. >> because they think later on in the year prices will go up even more. and gas is expected to rise. so choose carefully. >> i don't need a new car, but i'm going to go buy one anyway. no, i'm kidding. >> when automakers say that, they are also thinking about what may happen with the economy. a lot of times they are ahead of other folks. >> christine, thank you. appreciate it. still ahead this morning on "starting point," our reveal. a white house intern who claims she had an affair with a sitting u.s. president. and we're not talking about monica lewinsky. we'll tell you who it is straight ahead on "starting point." ♪ i saw the light ♪ i've been baptized ♪ by the fire in your touch and the flame in your eyes ♪ >> next time, we can't sit these two next to each other. everything that will cain does, the congressman says, that's great, son. that's off of will's ipod, brooks and dunn. time for our reveal this morning. this is a strange one. turning the clock back to the summer of 1962. 19-year-old intern mimi beardsly had just started an internship at the white house. the intern is now a 69-year-old grandmother and retired church administrator. she has an explosive new memoir out called "once upon ay is quiet." my affair with president john f. kennedy and its aftermath. the book comes out this week. "the new york post" got its hands on an early copy. she says she first encountered jfk four days into her internship. he invited her to a white house party, and that's when their 18-month long affair began. she says she and the president used to race rubber duckies in the bathtub. she says she always called him mr. president, never by his first name. and she also says that the president would occasionally fly her from college to the white house. the affair ended just days before kennedy was assassinated when she said that she was engaged. alford also says in the book that jackie kennedy was never around, she never met her, and she didn't feel guilty about the affair. the one thing i haven't found is why she is saying this now. this is 50 years old. >> it's called a book. >> but why now? do you think it's still interesting 50 years later? interesting details, but -- >> no. >> the country is fascinated with the kennedys. they always will be. not just back in 1962, about they are still fascinated with all of the kennedys, especially jfk. >> but there's a certain generation that's fascinated with it. >> this goes to the top of the bestseller charts you guess? >> you know what? i don't know. i don't think so. >> i think 50 years is too late. >> i don't think so. >> end point, up next with our panel. we are back in a moment. hey. did you guys hear... ...that mary got engaged? that's so 42 seconds ago. thanks for the flowers guys. 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